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- The Minnesota Timberwolves won Game 7 of their series with the Denver Nuggets, and will play the Dallas Mavericks in the Western Conference Finals. Colin Cowherd and Ric Bucher ask if Luka Dončić can lead the Mavericks to the NBA Finals, and if Anthony Edwards is the most exciting player in the NBA. Plus, they discuss the New York Knicks losing to the Indiana Pacers In Game 7 and if they need to revamp their roster.
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Pippen ran the offense.
No. Ugly basketball won. If MIN or BOS become champions that would look ugly.
Ric comparing Ant to Allen Iverson should disqualify him from all nba conversations.
Mj, Wade, Michael Finley (I saw him play and on another video I saw his name brought on and I definitely see Finley in Ant's bag too) but Iverson is a headscratcher lol.
@@MentalStillness I see MJ, Kobe and KD w D. Wade size.
He didn't say he plays like AI, he said he has the same type of role
@@MentalStillness ohhh Michael Finley is a good one that I didn’t even think about.
@@positivelytoxic90 which is still a odd thing to say because no they don’t.
He really got mad that Collin compared ant to Jordan and immediately compared him to Allen iverson 😂
Using comparisons for different reasons. He didn't like the MJ comparison because Edwards is only a couple years into the league and still has much to learn. Silly to start the GOAT talk. Compared him to Iverson from the primary scorer learning to get the rest of the team involved standpoint...which Iverson never figured out.
He was not comparing them size wise or playing style.
Damn, I cannot believe how awful the reading comprehension skills are on these sports comment threads.
@@johnobrien5037 anyone starting goat talks is just delusional. Most people think he looks acts and plays similarly to him. Not that he’s as good as him.
What a horrible comp.
@@johnobrien5037 Ant reminds me of Vince Carter but better on defense
They make you weep for society 😂
This Ric Bucher is a trip. He’s picked against Wolves the entire way. Took the Suns. Definitely picked the Nuggets. Now he’s taking the Mavs.
Guy is a clown who doesn't know what he's talking about.
You know why 😂
@@yahcrack
Why?
Everyone is picking the wolves what are you talking about?
@@joshuat7171same reason why ppl picking the Wolves
Luka has achieved more, broke more records, gone farther in the playoffs, has better stats in every single category than Ant and he doesn't get anywhere near the praise Ant gets. Luka career averages 28/9/9, Ant career averages 22/5/5, The difference is NIGHT and DAY
He's white!😂
Luka hasn’t gone farther in the playoffs. Ant is literally in the conference finals right now😂 and I hope u don’t think Luka goin to the finals
@marcusfrm6263 Luka went to the WCF 2 years ago with a worse supporting cast than Ant. You don't know ball
@@KRISTOPHERFRESNIDO yea I know he did and that’s all fine and dandy. Ant still made it as far as he did. You didn’t say shi about teammates. You said “gone farther in the playoffs”. How tf u got amnesia on a YT comment🤣🤣🤣
@marcusfrm6263 ant couldn't have made it to conference finals with the first squad luka was with his first time around. Ant made it this far with 2 all stars and 1 dpoy. Luka squad solid this year with the new rookie Derek lively, gafford, pj, etc. Plus luka was injured and still made it.
Ric doing tricks on it when he talks mj
Ant is like MJ ; I have money in the bank therefore I'm like Bill Gates 😅🙄🙄🙄
😂😂😂
😂😂
So cute, the T wolves WIN, but the knicks "bow out".
The pacers didn't win, the knicks bowed out lolz
Also no pacer player on the thumbnail, but one for every other team
Pacers are losing to boston and they faced two injured teams in their first two match ups i live in Indiana btw
Pacers gonna put the pace on Boston!
@@chikinlikin6947 Never mind that the Pacers beat ALL these teams, completely healthy, in regular season. I don't think they're as intimidated as you think. But .. ok.
Ric Carlisle was absolutely on the money when he said small market teams get the short end of the stick .. especially when the national media would rather see new York and Boston in the ECF
Dallas in 6! Go Mavs! Ant ain't no Jordan.
Yeah! G🏀 MAVS!
we beat the hardest team in the nba. yall we'll be lightwork. Kyrie was no show all series for yall and luka couldn't heat threesto save he's life in the early play off games. wolves in 4
@@Zooom88lol
The actual quote Colin was referring to at the end: “Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.”
Easy not good
I think
lmao never heard someone butcher that quote as much as him
@@motivation-found Yeah, he butchered it badly.
Rick: Other then a couple it is an old team?!! Only Gobert, 31, and Conley, 36, are older. KAT is 28 and the rest are mid 20's and younger! smh
Ric is an idiot
Pretty sure he meant veterans and what's wrong with being old...
What’s crazy is that Ant came and took Kat team from him
@@ja195 Old souls, indeed.
Yea and Gobert still has a fair amount of good years he can serve as a defensive anchor. 2-3 minimum as a top defender/all star caliber defender. Their core seems relatively young. Ant and Towns can be together a hot minute
Looking back, that All Star game was the last straw for Silver to change the officiating and bring defense back.
What? They've been playing much better defense, the scoring has been way down, you people just say random 💩
It's a good point , it's referenced alot that NBA let players play better D, and also in the begining of the season scoring was way up - the premise you stated was false based on logical deductive reasoning@@dubdub680
Ant reminds us of Michael Jordan.... its Ok!
Jordan is the GOAT but Pippen was the orchestrator for the bulls team. Even Mike admitted that. Some of these analyst as too busy being fan boys to truly understand what was happening.
Yeah, Pippen would often handle the ball down court and set up the offense
@@WhathehadasSole
…and direct team defense as needed.
🎯
he setup the defense too, best defender on Bulls.@WhathehadasSole
Bucher wasn't wrong at all. Jordan orchestrated the Bulls' offense quite a bit before his first retirement. In their first NBA finals, Jordan averaged over 11 assists a game and was running the point the majority of the time. Pippen didn't really become the main orchestrator until Jordan retired in 93'.
At 22yrs of age MJ was getting booted from the playoffs in the 1st rd and had that same thing happen two more seasons. Ant at 22yrs old just knocked off the defending champs and is in the WCF. For comparisons, Edwards is ahead of Jordan at this stage in their careers
Jordan didnt have a team like Ant had. Jordan was playin a bunch of coke heads in Chicago. You need context son
MJ didn't have a ring in 1985-86 at 22 but he averaged 28 PPG at 21 and 37 PPG at 23 and 35 PPG at 24. MJ didn't get a ring until 1990-91 when he was 27, got a 3-peat then retired, returned in 94-95 and 3-repeated from 1995 to 1998 at 34 years old. 6 rings in 6 finals appearances. If Ant can exceed or match this feat, he isn't just the next MJ. He is Anthony Edwards.
Edward’s with a superior supporting casts
Absolutely not wtf. There is a difference between team and individual players. Ant has a great team and KAT was arguably even their best player so far. How on earth does a team with an all-star and former first pick, 3 times dpoy and great role players compare to the supporting cast of MJ early in his career. On an individual level MJ was basically the best player in the league in his second year. 22 yo Ant is even far behind 22 yo Luka.
Ant is having a great year and playoffs, and maybe the T-Wolves win the chip. But hang on a second. Ant has two other all-stars on his team early in his career, and the 6MOY....Jordan's Bulls were a total rebuild team the year he joined. They lost to Milwaukee in the first round, but as a rookie, MJ led all scorers in every game that series but one. Then MJ's second season he missed almost the entire year with a broken foot. Pippen took 3 years to develop. MJ's fifth year of actually playing, he had taken down all three 80s dynasties (Celtics, Pistons, Lakers) and was hoisting the finals and MVP trophies after defeating Magic and LA in 5 games.
Bucher's always off about the Wolves team dynamics...he just looks at it all from way too national a perspective, but you can tell he ain't really plugged in to the Wolves
never got he MJ comparison, i always saw him as Dwade with a jumpshot. He has the same explosion and first step like early wade
Far more explosive than Wade
I think Rick totally missed the point in his attempt to preserve the memory of Michael Jordan. Colin didn’t say Ant is the new Jordan, or as good as him, or even on the way to being him. He just said that he sees him as someone willing to sacrifice a bit on the offensive end if it means he can win. That is a fair assessment, and Jordan absolutely did that, so I don’t see how that is a controversial comparison. Sports fans do this all the time with their GOAT, you can’t even speak their name in the same sentence as current players without them getting offended
I say he reminds me the most of TMac.
Cause those comparisons aren’t good for ratings. Jordan is
@@Emos1112 He's not more explosive than Wade. However, agreed he does have a better jumper at the same age than Wade and has a higher vertical.
Go Mavs
I agree with Rick on that point. There was no need to invoke an MJ comparision
He’s aesthetically and stylistically plays like him. Everybody can run from the comparisons but it’s real.
Facts, Edward’s can get out the way 1st round without another hall of famer
@@dadillonful MJ played in a league with Hand checking rules and where normal fouls were flagrant fouls, If edwards played in his era he'd be struggling to be a water boy, Keep it simple Ant will never ever be better or at the same level as MJ was. Also its not Edwards is playing with bums, He played with 3x allstars, 1x dpoy, 1x 6th man of the year lol.
@@djkido316 they allow handchecking today on every play .. also MJ didn’t have to face zone defenses and he played where they called illegal defense
Comparing Ant to MJ makes WAY MORE sense than comparing him to a 6 foot tall, 160 pound guard who shot 30 times a game and played no defense.
Tbh, Luka has more MJ in him than Ant. Ant plays like Steve francis with defense.
Dude that’s absolutely the dumbest thing I have ever read.
Seriously, that blows my mind that that was an actual thought in his head. @@bryankelley6120
@@bryankelley6120 I agree, I wasted my time reading your comment!😂
How is it? Stop overrating him@bryankelley6120
@bryankelley6120 now you all know lmao
Gonna be fun to watch
He wants to stand out as his own player he doesn't have an issue with the comparison he said he has a three point shot he's so confident he literally thinks he can be even better without saying so. Big difference.
If Luka can't lead Mavs to finals, Kyrie can. Two very experienced superstars. That's going to be hard to beat.
FAx
Buddy they just beat the recent champs. Kyrie ain’t been here since 2017 get off of it
@@marcusfrm6263They got ran through 3 games in a row and nearly lost the series. Mavs won in 6 in both rounds In the same fashion.
@@mattmorgan3306 yup they got ran through 3 games in a row and ran through the champs in game 6 with 45 point blowout and came back from 20 ON THE ROAD in a game 7. Sorry buddy their resume is MUCH better than Dallas. Dallas went 6 games with the clippers🤣 Dallas went 6 games wit the thunder who only had shai doin something 🤣 the wolves are much better than them. They only test was the nuggets and they got by that. This is easy
@@marcusfrm6263I’ll comeback to this comment.
Amazing game
Collin Cowturd picked against Luka all year and was proven wrong time after time. Hope he picks Minnesota so he can be wrong AGAIN.
Poor comparison to Iverson who was close to 26 going on that run with the Sixers going against inferior competition in the East. Furthermore, the difference between AI and Ant is that if Edward's is off he can beat you with elite defense whereas Iverson often had to be hidden on that end because he was a liability. Lastly, it's more than fair to compare Ant to MJ especially an MJ who was 22. Ant already seems to have the leadership and ability to trust his teammates which took MJ a little bit longer to develop.
Jamal Murray was the best closer on the floor too..... look how that worked out 😂
Ok Ric - don’t compare ANT to MJ but let me compare him to AI
There's a huge difference.
Antman game is more like DWade with a jumper
Jump rope😂
Imo he's like Mitch Richmond w/ more explosion
Ric knows stuff and he's right on point when talking about Jordan
Can someone timestamp where in the clip do they talk about the title? 🤔
Great game 😄
And here we are the minisota are getting sweep.
Why doesn’t anyone just sum it up as “he has mj’s mannerisms and game style. But mj was just better and/or put up way better numbers.” Ant’s numbers are second tier this season, those aren’t mvp numbers, more like jimmy butler on mild steroids with a great post season.
Exactly
This is the type of “playoff” basketball we saw with past eras, but alot of the offense in these playoff emulate regular season play in the early 2000s late 90s. Oops, shake and bakes, pick and roll offense, clutch isolation, intense defense, Crowd interaction. Basketball is BACK!!!
Lukas won the scoring title 33.9 and nobody else came close . Giannis was second with 30.00 points 😊😊😊😊
Ric doing a split on that thang. “How dare you mention my pookie”
How on earth are these guys still questioning if we can defend well enough 😭 we have clamped up 2 teams in 2 series
Defense and Team basketball 🏀 is 💰 back!!!!!
fix the volume already
please raise the volume. i do not need to repeat this for every video
Love Buchs on the show
KD to the Knicks still makes a bunch of sense according to Bucher. And the Knicks have all the picks in the world for Phoenix to replenish their picks somewhat. It’s gonna be Randle and a contract and maybe a young guy like McBride, and however many picks they need to make it work. Brunson, Donte, OG, KD, Robinson with Hart and Hartenstein off the bench at least. If Phoenix was smart, they’d do that now. But they won’t cause they’re stubborn. Next best options, according to Bucher are Lauri, Kuz or MPJ possibly. But KD and Lauri are possible game changers in a huge way.
The new owner does not understand the nuance of assembling a complete basketball team versus having an overload of scorers.
@ChillmindedPanther87 I wouldn’t be mad if they brought this whole squad back. They have real depth which would allow them to not have to play too many minutes in the regular season and playoffs. If Thibs would allow it lol
Allen Iverson comparison … no way. Iverson totally carried that Sixer team. Edwards has help. That’s not taking anything from Edwards. He’s “that dude”. But, that comparison isn’t close, except they both put their bodies in harm way to make a play.
Same way Colin said that Dallas has the best 2 closers, he was wrong about the being close in defense. Minny have the best 3 defenders in that series. Ant, McDanields, and Gobert are better defenders than any Maverick!
And?
Gobert will be switched numerous times on Luka and you know what that means. McDaniels is long but cannot withstand 6-8 240 pounds of footwork and physicallity. Ant is good but he will have give alot of energy to stop Kyrie. Dallas has great switchable swiss army knife defenders in Djj Pj and even Lively.
Mavs in 🏀🏀🏀🏀🏀🏀
@@minyeongchung All Dallas defenders pale in comparison to the Wolves top 3 defenders!
The Ant glazing needs to end
It’s nauseating He has a great team around him Luka is better
Dude foreals. So many wankers. Gobert can make a shot and they'll be like "Ant!!!"
@@chasebrammer851
Luka barely plays defense.
@@R_W_Goodsonthat narrative is now gone after this year.
@@R_W_Goodson watch games he plays defense
It’s “ Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times.” Colin.
The closest thing to Jordan has definitely been Kobe and i feel I've heard more Ant/Jordan comparisons then anything. Get over it already.
Colin is spot on on his assessment....ric could use a diaper change...Jordan is the bar and this is the first kid to come along that has that potential
Yep. The AI comparison is whack ant is too strong he is a physical bully on offense and defense
you’re disrespecting Michael Jordan in which Edwards doesn’t even have a title yet and probably won’t at Minnesota
Garbage, lazy take by Colin.
@@GoatedAtNFS Hence the word "potential"....btw he already has advanced farther than Jordan did at 22
@@GoatedAtNFS Jordan didn’t reach the eastern conference finals until he was 26 and did not reach the finals for 2 seasons after that. Ant is currently 22
Audio is too quiet. You've got to turn it up!
I didn't hear them say anything😂
Ric does tricks on it for jordan
The Knicks sorely missed their premier big man (Randle). The Pacers had to much length for the Knicks; the height differential was telling!
Is anybody else’s audio low for this channel because if so, they need to turn it up
always
Kinda hilarious that they disrespect the Pacers so hard they don’t even want to talk about them, then the first game goes to OT with Tatum choking but Pacers somehow choked harder.
Mitchell Robinson. Isaiah Hartenstein. OG Anunoby. JULIUS RANDLE. Even Josh Hart played the 4. Somehow they need ANOTHER stretch/4? Who’s not gonna play? They need a scorer. No question.
The Knicks already have two stretch fours in Randle and Bogdanovic… they were both injured. They already had the roster… lol
I’ve been saying this lol it’s like they forgot the people that got hurt were still on the roster. Just run it back.
Just learning the game. Come on. He is the game.
Jimmy Butler is the wing that fits NY
4:02 Anthony Edward’s style is a lil like Mike, but also Derrick Rose and Westbrook.
His personality is more like Magic with a touch of Iverson…
I'm so impressed, yeeeey Michael Ant!
I think Ant has handled the MJ comparison well.
And I’ve seen this in the comments already but I see more DWade with a better jumper. The explosiveness/body type is there.
Hoping he takes the TWolves to the finals but don’t count out Luka and the mavs 👀👌🏽🏀
Denver didn't attack those bigs enough from Minnesota. Dallas will make Minnesota look slow
Keep discounting the Wolves.
Because its working so well this far.
Luka gonna tear them up
I can’t freaking wait So tired of the cocky timberwolves Luka and Kyrie gonna feast
@@chasebrammer851
Neither one of those guys plays much defense. Offense wins games, DEFENSE wins championships.
@@R_W_Goodsonthe rest of the Mavs can play great defense (similar to the wolves)
@@R_W_Goodsonden won w/ better O than mia @ least IMHO
lmao never heard someone butcher that quote as much as him 10:15
Would be wild to see a contest between these two to see who could fit more balls in their mouth MJ and Bucher versus Colin and Draymond.
Ant ain't nothing like Mike -cut it out!!!! 😎
Ric “don’t compare him to Jordan”…proceeds to compare him to Iverson lol.
Tough men create easy times.
Easy times create soft men.
Soft men create hard times.
Hard times create tough men.
Ant is a better shooting D Wade! When they made Jordan they threw away the mold
the knicks need mikal bridges.
I like this show. But Ric Bucher basketball analysis is at best hard to listen to. Even when proven wrong, he will still find a way to spin it that he is right.
Ant is crazy? Like AI? What is Ric talking about? Who knows.
Bucher to say Ant not doing the thinking bc he young and calling him wild is crazy. He is poised and being the leader on a contender. Ant told the vet Conley to get out the way on the screen. He told Naz to relax take your time and he started getting it going. We know how he assists towns in finding the beast in himself. Never talked down on Gobert. He’s thinking beyond the game for this team. People just say anything in real time.
"He's not this if he doesn't have this guy." Scotty Pippen???
Ric just glad the Warriors didn’t have to play in a league were defense was allowed to be played
You obviously haven't followed this man's career lmao stop talking sports bad look
@@nicholassimmonsthomas8504 no I’ve been following Bucher since
almost the beginning. He still salty about
LeBron and takes shots at him constantly
Bucher is confusing, "he plays like him" with "he won 6 championships". Nobody is saying he won 6 champs. He just looks like him.
Audio quality is bad... Low volume.
love bukes!!!
Don't say the J word LMAO 😆
Why is the audio on your videos so low -_-
"Let's not even talk about the Pacers, Celtics are winning that" then moving to the other teams' strengths. Could Colin have disrespected the Pacers anymore than this?
Ric Bucher being on this just makes you wish it was Tim Legler or JJ Redick. This is the guy you put on tv to say random points that sound good to him. I guess the way he talks is just entertaining enough to keep his job all these years, but the content always seems so random.
cowherd like most of these guys living in the 1990's. different time different era,
Ant to mj is a way better comp than when they were saying ben Simmons is lebron
Yes we did! We said Jordan isn’t the same without Pippen!
lol they compare Ant at 22 to prime Jordan smh
Yes, it's called a comparison because he's nearly on par with MJ at that age and is showing acuity and maturity of an older player, all while playing less minutes.
@@jkutnink87it’s called immature. You have to compare players with their respective ages. I hate the Luka and Harden comparison because Harden wasn’t close to where Luka was at that age. Lazy analysis
@@resmondrichardson8045they Casuals!
Ric butcher is reading through his prophecy
The Allen iverson comparison was horrible lol and I knew what he meant in terms of roles , it still didn’t make sense
'MJ gave up points to win'. Dude. Took him at least 5 years to learn that lesson. Go look at his numbers.
You mean it took the bulls Front office 5 years to get him a team he could pass too.
whos that guy collins talking... 😮 confused with what he is saying.
This show cannot have a guest on with good audio
Anthony Edward dislikes Kat and gobert
Where u read that ?
Ant gas American Freedmen swag and brings it on both sides of the ball
It's not his play style but the smile and his body type that reminds us of mj
6-24 for 16 pts...GAME 7 MJ CLONE ? PIPE IT DOWN YO
If Luka did this they would crucify him The ant glazing is unbearable
Ant gets alot of leeway 😂
Conley is the Glue.
In NY the right guy is Demar Derozan!! Nobody else will do!
Too much duplication with Jalen, Donte and O.G.
@@R_W_Goodson Donte can come off the bench or start. Demar is a culture guy we just gotta get Bojan contract moved to make room
Uhh Bucher, you ever heard of Pippen? Jordan was not able to really become Jordan until he had a Pippen. If you think otherwise, tell me what rings he won before Pippen was in the lineup? 🤔
People easily forget about the Washington Wizard years.
And MJ never won without Hof coach Phil
I don't think Ric was listening - all Colin said was that like MJ Ant is willing to give up points to win, there was no reason for Ric to start pouting
Mj was Mj. But i am not impressed with the 6/6 championships and you are the greatest of all time. When Bill Russell went 11/12. With 8 straight championships. The only time he lost was when he had a foot injury and could not play. I am old enough and I saw Bill Russell play and it was a thing of beauty.