A Massive Wuthering Waves / Zenless Zone Zero Announcement...
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- čas přidán 30. 07. 2024
- Wuthering Waves just released their 1.2 character info, and Zenless Zone Zero is confirmed to have made $25 million dollars in 5 days on mobile.
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What Gacha are YOU currently playing?!
HSR, WuWa, ZZZ. Tried Nikke but it takes too much time to mantain so dropped it
Starrail and zzz
genshin, wuwa, zzz
genshin, zzz
Hsr, wuwa
30 Polychromes huh. Daring today aren't we Hoyoverse? You might end up bankrupt if you give out this much
All hail HoYo!
I mean, the game is not dogshit and unplayable to the piont they have to bribe the players, unlike Wuthering Crap
@@daerovius7535 least hoyoverse fan ever.
@@daerovius7535 "unplayable" eh that's a lie cuz I've been playing it since day one but all Hail Hoyo for 30 polychromes!!
@@daerovius7535 Insult detected. Opinion rejected. Away with ye
finally someone said that not every char does not need to be mommy like
I often have a different opinion to the vocal echo chamber you find online lmao
Was about to say same, finally someone gets it, unlike a pokkemon mid user
@@Stixxy and that's a good thing
My issue would be why is it mostly 5 stars. 1.2 just shows its gonna be 6 limited 5 stars while still having the same no. Of 4 star since 1.0
Yeah, it's good to have some characters that might have more niche appeal. I am a girl and I like the guy even if I prefer Jiyan or Calcharo design. On the other hand I am not like the majority that go crazy over Scar... People have different tastes and it's good to see Kuro is not just feeding the majority...
Lmao "maybe in 5 events from now we can finally succeed in gaining one pull ! " lol
Hahahah it’s true!
@Stixxy it harkens to their "thank for 3 dedicated years of loyal playing geshin fans. Here's 3 anniversary fates " lol I'm very curious to see what happens. Going forward
Wtf you on about? They gave a multi for reaching certain amount of downloads AND they doing 3whole weeks of giving pulls resulting in enough for 3 multis
4:08 That 30 polychromes is going to come in clutch!
lol
for sure, I cannot thank HoYo enough!
30 IS ALOT! I NEED 1570 more for a 10 pull! LMAO
108 primo flashback
imagine you got ellen the sharkbooboo from single pulls just beacuase for that extra 30 polychromes
That free ten pull was the exeption, not the norm.
zzz stopped running to wait for you to continue sleeping
lmao
💤😴💤
I like it that it's chill
If all character is like changli "Mommy" character the game will be boring.
Agreed!
We need extra Taoqi thick character next.
@RavenShugo You got Baizhi, she thicc.
Sometimes, I feel I am suffocating when playing her.Those feels very heavy, and my spine feels like it is about to break.
Ladies would like Xiangli Yao.
He is cute remind of Argenti from hsr pretty boy. 😍
no joke
@@TheBilayerI mean the same can be said about if the mainstream game are only filled with husbando, it will be boring pretty fast.
Balancing is better afterall.
I think wuwa is gonna somehow turn into a stronger pc game with more international appeal.
At this point kuro NEEDS to get it on consoles because it probably would live best there with the more intense combat system
Heard they are already testing on PS server
Hope we heard the official announcement on TGS
@@kamilfahmii i hope they’ll bring it on xbox as i don’t own ps
@@sstellaarbro, you own an Xbox and you expect to get the game 😢
I hope I can transfer my account. My jinshi is op
@@kamilfahmii hopefully 🙏🏻
Everyone is talking about how "Wuwa is gatekeeping more of their possible audience because they are releasing too many guys" but like thats how the game started in the first place. The first 5 star was Jiyan and still did pretty good in revenue. Anyways I think these people have no basis because thats just what is advertised when you start the game if you see the banner cycle its male female male female which to me is great I like to see well done males too though who cares about gender tbf just make good characters which they are doing.
Tbh how is Wuwa releasing too many guys when the character roster gender ratio right now is skewed towards female characters XD""
In fact, I think the male characters designs are not fan servicey enough... (they still look good though but compared to female characters, the fan service is lacking)
Hoyo: can't pull with 30 Monochromes? Pocket Issue.
💀 there will be more issue when there is no player log in to the game 🤣
Keep making fun of it, giving it advertising and monopoly to Hoyo 😂, and now fear they have all the games. That's why they can do whatever they want with you ppl, Is a shame.
@@thatparticulargame6001 You'll gain nothing from defending Hoyoverse man, you literally gain nothing you're stressing over nothing, they don't see you as people but as walking wallets, nothing more.
@@FocalResonance-1997 I am not defending Hoyo man, My whole statement is against the kids that give them money omg. They give them tts, as, and they are happy.
@@thatparticulargame6001 >sees commenter advertising hoyo as a greedy pocket stealer by stating facts
>claims it's free advertising for hoyo
30 of their currency for such a big milestone? Scumverses attitude towards players is outrageous. At this point they must be sued. I have no words. They give no foks, and millions of zombified people give them tons of money... Wtf is going on? Why? how? This company makes me vomit.
Funnily enough mihoyo seemingly only does that for non-honkai games, honkai 3rd and HSR give normal gacha rewards, while genshin and zzz actively shits on their players at any opportunity.
lmao sued on what basis, i dont get the outrage about not getting enough free pulls, although i do agree its funny how insignificant their celebration rewards are
I don't think 1000 guide submissions is really a big milestone. I mean yes 30 is nothing, but oh well. So far it hasn't been that bad, we've gotten 20 limited pulls from login events, we will get 10 bangboo pulls from another login event, we got a 10 pull for 50M milestone. Maybe more? I can't remember everything.
Yes, its not as generous as WuWa has been, but its not horrible either. Hopefully like HSR we will get a 10 pull login from each patch.
One thing I wish all hoyo games would do though is 100% guarantee on weapon banners. It just feels bad when you lose the 75/25
Brainwashed re1arded people exists, sadly there's a lot of them.
Bro Ccp
Well it seems HSR stays the the best/most generous Hoyo Game
Yup! haha
Almost makes me disappointed that I dropped HSR a few months after launch, the game seems like it's in a good place. Luckily that and HI3 are the only games I've put more than a couple days of time into, because it means I have no other gacha game investments and not feel like I'm missing out by starting WuWa last week.
It's great! I got every 5 star I tried for. Even when I hadn't been playing and that purple girl dropped, I dropped back in the game to do daily stuff and got her without much trouble. Genshin on the other hand... 😂 Go across entire land scouring it for chests and Speedruning HOURS of dialogue
I havent played ZZZ so when i heard 30 polychrome, i thought those were the event pulls, and i was baffled. I thought, "wait is hoyo actually being generous?" And then i found out that it was just 30 of the premium currency, not even a single pull, and reality hit me. Hoyo could never be generous lmao
When suckahs give them plenty of money for generic games, they really don't need to be generous.
If i was hoyo, i would farm the soul out of these hopeless specimen.
actually Star Rail is generous. free 10 pull every patch on top of maintenance compensation. anniversary was good too.
It's Genshin that's stingy
@@pixelpuppyI don’t think that’s entirely true. Every maint gives a 10 pull?
@@Kyroliger yeah man, we're so conditioned with Genshin's lack of generosity, that Star Rail's feels unbelievable. You get the usual premium gems for maintenance, and then the 7-day login event gives you 10 pulls. Not sure if ZZZ will do the same, but seems likely.
@@pixelpuppy I see. So they’re not straight up 10 pulls per maint. There’s conditions after the fact that leads to 10 pulls. I know genshin is stingy and hsr started the generosity train, but I’ve never heard of any gacha ever given straight up 10 pulls per maint. That’d be insane lmao
But yeah, by what you’re saying ZZZ is doing exactly that. We just got our second 7 day login that gives limited currency pulls.
I feel like Wuwa attract PC gamer more than ZZZ did and Wuwa Mobile performance was terrible at launch so that definitely affect the sales
But yes, Hoyo name is just already too big and famous at this point so they have much easier time selling ZZZ than Kuro who is still relatively unknown outside of the gacha space, being able to break out of that bubble with Wuwa is already a huge success despite the lack of Covid buff that Genshin got during their release. I hope Kuro keep up their good work and still being generous to their player base instead of following Hoyo example of milking everything they could because they can
True, most of my friends who still played genshin all said the same thing, it's mainly because they already invest too much time and some of them even whales a bit in genshin, so unless WuWa can literally keep them occupied for a whole day nonstop each patch they won't be stopping genshin anytime soon, tho some of them stopped whaling in genshin and now whales on every character tho, having max jinhsi and her weapon, yinlin and jiyan.. I'm jelly lmao
wait till people find out were getting the 5 star dude for free and were getting waveplate storage in 1.2 as well as the game becoming playable on playstation. Wuwa collecting dubs like mint
I legit saw a post that said we won’t get him for free because of ZZZ, tho it was probably fake anyway.
We won't get him for free. It was unconfirmed to begin with so yeah. Either way we'd get free 5* on big updates in the future. It's just too early for them to give out another 5* for free.
The bu**sh*t free 5 star character all start from a nobody leaker who translate a joke from china leak but do not note about that joke . That sh*t head just want fame from the drama he's making up "accidentally"
No we have a post that he is free through event
"If the popularity value of the moon chasing festival reaches 6000, you can get free 5* character, xiangli yao"
Funny how people call this new Wuwa girl “boring looking” and yet actually looks pretty distinct from the rest of the female cast who all feel the same despite the hair colors.
5:40 I think its work acknowledging that there are alot more PC players on WW than mobile, so PC revenue is actually fairly relevant
On the west, yes. But the west makes less than 35% of revenue. 80% of players in the east (mainly japan and china) play on phone, and those are about 60% of the revenue, so all in all PC sales are not that relevant.
Im still happy for WuWa and Kuro Games. They came from just one game that almost not making a lot of money but now they have one that can potentially be on top 3.
I'm might not be a whale but I monthly buy the Pioneer Pod cast and the monthly asterite subs. I just hope that the game will be more optimized for android this uo coming months.
playing both but sticking to WuWa. ZZZ doesn’t feel F2P friendly enough. WuWa feels like a gacha that respects players’ time and i’m all for that. Hope Kuro games continues the service of such an amazing game
respects time? sorry but have u ever farmed echos in WuWa? Thats by far the most time consuming system i have ever seen in a gacha, And dailys compared to ZzZ take 10 times as long. WuWa has some positives over ZzZ but time is definitly not one of em.
@@Hobbitfeet01maybe his farming with energy.
Then yeah
@@Hobbitfeet01 and it costs fucking 60 for no reason.
Wait till yus start farming relics on zzz
@@Hobbitfeet01 farming for discs ain't great either
7:38 majority of CN advocated for playing on PC. I believe 70% of CN playerbase for WuWa is PC while 30% is mobile
The Wuwa characters look good. The male simple color scheme (grey-black-blue) is perfect for him, it's more symbolic of his character that as a cyborg simple=efficient, no needs for bells and whistles.
As for the girl, her more modest-librarian look is perfect! We don't need a Yinlin every patch, and she has glasses! Do we have any other character with glasses? (Aalto doesn't count he has sunglasses).
Enjoyed the video but the end dance is epic. 😂😂😂
She reminds me a little of Mary from Harvest Moon Back to Nature.
Mortefi I think has glasses
Both Mortefi and Yuanwu have glasses, but she is the first female character with glasses.
@@darmansbar7900 you're right...so that makes her the first female wearing glasses. xD
@@Kendymary yep, thanks for reminding me.. i was thinking about females, idk why i remembered Aalto's sunglasses, i really like the animation where he takes them off i guess. 😂
Ended up quitting ZZZ, got to 35 and did all my pulls then compared to what I got for the same amount ish pulls in Wuwa and what I had to play with. It's just not F2P friendly enough to be a sidegame and I'd rather spend my money on Wuwa personally.
Totally understandable! I'm gonna try to finish ZZZ and then I'll see where I stand!
Good choice 🫡
tbh i'd wait til the first next patch come out. i think it's a bit early to see if it seems promising at least. it's also understandable if the gameplay itself didn't hook you
Bruh this is so fuckin real. After 1 week I have a whopping 50 pulls for the limited banner saved, if I don't get that next girl it's straight up an uninstall from me.
foreal though my luck in hoyo games are absolutely trash compared to any other gacha
Kuro was never looking to make WuWa the "Genshin Killer". Just to dip their foot in the market. I've been loving the game so far.
I've also been really liking ZZZ. It's a different style of game that I can appreciate. People need to stop fighting and appreciate the good games we've been getting.
Thank you bro. No one ever talks about the fact that these games are like, actually games. That are meant to be played. They are both good.
Genshin is trash. I was a launch player and it's insane the defense this basic ass game gets.
@@JohnDoe-pt7ru Cool 👍
Stix the reason why wuWa pushing new characters that are 5* is because we will most likely get a selector sooner or later like PGR does.
Oh wow so generous 30 polychromes is like 2-6 achievements...
0:03 yeah the company name carried it nothing new
Also I think wuw have more players in pc then mobile
No it didn't you have no clue what you're talking about
@@Plsrateeightit was tho
@@Plsrateeight you have no clue what you're talking about
@@Plsrateeight If zzz was launched by some random company i bet it would have way less people and revenue lol.. just accept the fact
@@Blank05 little kid that's not a fact, that's you crying about a company that didn't hurt you you big baby
30 Polychrome? Hoyo is Hoyoing. This isn’t going to help the promotion…
lmao 30! THIRTY! Such generous, much wow.
I mean hoyo need the attention 😂
Every single change they've done to the game fixing something they've given you a hundred, y'all just want everything free and want way more than you deserve for anything, the last reward they gave for a milestone was enough for a 10 pull.
@@Plsrateeight this is called hoyoshilling at its best.
Imagine supporting a corporate and then cry after being treated like shit in next three years.
You are the reason why genshin is in the state it is.
@@vampiszoonis9691 shut up kid, why don't you go see what mommy's doing she's probably playing with her friends is they are all guys but mommy just plays with them
slight correction on the video, the numbers you reference on the twitter posts are slightly less than the numbers kavehs (kevin) happy birthday tweet got. but thats probably because of all the meme regarding him being in jail/missing
The other downloads in zzz are pre registered, i experience it and a lot of people where the game will be downloaded on the phone and yet it says that the phone is not compatible to run the game...
There are also many people who have compatible phone, but would have to remove either Genshin or Star Rail to fit the game in memory. It's so huge, even in 1.0!
Does every download a single person does count into the 50 mil from zzz? If so there are 6 downloads from me from ragequitting the game with deinstall and install again :D Just wondering I think many ppl did that lmao
I did 5 reinstallation but can't get past the boring gameplay
If you think like that I’ve reinstalled wuwa 30 times,zzz 6 times and Gi 20 times
They basically scam you when they allowed you to download the game from playstore before launch and when the launch started, they slapped people with incompatibility issues.
@@Soparandom same, I just dl it again bcoz all streamers I watched still play it and I didnt know why
@@Saito-kun_0 yeah wuwa had alot too bcoz of mobile problems I guess :D thats why Im wondering if it count into them or not
Kuro vs hoyo rewards is just insane, i am only going off wuwu and zzz but kuro seem to care and hoyo seem to see us as numbers. Just my take
Also like the new Outro
Honkai Star Rail actually seems pretty decent in that aspect, for a hoyo game. I still wouldn't recommend any other game from them. Star Rail is fun if you like the JRPG format
Not even a single pull worth of rewards with 50M downloads and 20M revenue, sounds sus to me....😅
They gave 1600( a multi) for 50m downloads, the 30 is for the next milestone
@@matheusmantovani993 I stand corrected😛 but actual revenue is more important, should've given more rewards than download achieved..don't cha think 🤔
They did give 1,600 polychrome for the 50 million downloads. Also the large amount of free pulls makes it easy to get characters especially in the beginning so i think it also reduces sales
thanks for the news bro have been grinding wuthering and snowbreak
Glad to hear that! Hope you're having fun!
I have a slight issue with how ZZZ drip feeds materials and pull currency from too many sources. Almost every gameplay mode has an additional menu at the bottom to unlock progression currency, after many quests you get the quest reward, and then have to run to the police mascot to get his chump change, the redeem codes are pretty tiny, yet fairly numerous, and then these mail rewards are fairly tiny at times...
Its so much running around and menu navigation to consolidate all of these sources. Its a forced time sink mechanic and I hate it. Can't they just kill these secondary progression menus and stuff and roll it into the actually clear currency so I don't have to run around collecting scraps and my clears feel more rewarded?
Also tell me I'm not the only one that thinks after clearing the Bangboo Trainer league mission that we should have been given a free copy of the Shark Bangboo since he was "free" in the mission and it would have been an absolutely great reward for how long that mission is?
I've had the darndest time keeping track of everyone's names in WuWa. 😅
I've had some bad RNG on the time-limited characters, and completely missed out on the general guy (the leader of the Midnight Rangers), and missed out on the puppeteer lady.
But I did get Taoqi, who I really took to. I really like her moveset. Also randomly got Verina, the 5-star "flower girl," from the normal banner (I lucked out there). Also lucked out with the lion dance dude, Yianling, I think his name is? Also got the gym owner boxer dude, Yuanwu, as well as Mortefi, Aalto, and Calcharo, from the normal banner.
Also just got Jinhsi the other day. Right on my first ten-pull try. I was ecstatic! I really like her moveset.
I cant play it on my phone, it says not compatible, yet i was able to download it day1 and it crashes every time
1:30 her eyes look like a NTR hanime female led tbh
LMAO
Well... now i can't unsee that...
this is an absolute win💀💦
*Metamorphosis flashbacks*
hmm mybe because the lore is accurate , we talking about kuro himself here 😅 the lore is always depressing 💀
30 polychromes. Meanwhile other games will give you a whole 10 pull
Don’t worry, 5 more and we’ll get 1 pull!
I'm pretty sure they did give a 10 pull at 50 mill download and another 10 pull just today
@@gong-hl7fwsoo? the game zzz not even open word lmao and kuro here giving 10 pull left and right 😮💨 , even game genre like solo lvling give more pull in their story quest reward 😂 hoyo being hoyo and hoyoshill still sucking hard 💀
@@qiemyyshimee767 the comment said 30 polychromes, I only said that there are other rewards as well. I don't see how that correlates to your comment. And no need to be so hostile man
@@qiemyyshimee767 if you put it like that then the 10 pulls that are given in WuWa are "apologies" due to it being a poorly optimized release, bugs and issues everywhere, and developers that are trying to suck up to the hard to please players.
the download in zzz is mostly ghost download. i have a mobile that i used to pre register and it made me download zzz upon release but i cant open it and it got removed from playstore cuz of incompatibility issues and i bet this thing happened in most downloads
Actually, It happen to mee
Cp 💀💀💀
Happened to me 😂
You have a WHAT??!?!
@@CommandoFrost oof i realized we call it mobile now
well good, i can save in 1.2 after Changli in WuWa xD waiting for Tsubaki
haha CAMELLYA INCOMING!
Take this with a grain of salt but I've heard rumors from various sources that we'll get the 5 star guy for free. I really hope Kuro does it just to further prove you don't need to milk TF out of your playerbase to have a profitable game.
@@rayman17420 i doubt they would. That would be crazy though.
@@rayman17420 well we will see, even if thats not true, they can do just fun events and good story content like in 1.1 that's enough for me.
Spoiler btw Cam is supposedly coming in 1.4 so get your asterites ready
ZZZ DID have a larger launch than Genshin, HSR, and wuwa. However it did not incentivise spending due to a lack of actually being able to use your characters. In the first 20+ hours of the game, you spend about 16-18 HOURS of that purely in the story or hub worlds, completely unable to see the characters you rolled for. Why would I spend hundreds for a character I cant even LOOK at?
China: Zenless Zone Zero
Japan: Genshin Impact
Global: Wuthering waves.
Close enough, welcome back World War 3.
Mihoyo just loves the number 3, don't they?
• HI3
• 3 primogems for 3rd Anniversary
• 30 polychromes for ZZZ
I shouldn't be laughing cuz WuWa has problems too but I can't help it😂😭
haha truth.
@@Stixxy Speaking of WuWa, they really need to release it on PS. It would be a huge W if they make it available to PS4 since a lot of people still kept that instead of buying PS5
Not having a console release is a CRIME! haha
@@Stixxy Honestly I could say the same for console games not having a PC port on release.
Imagine Hoyo donating their own money to make ZZZ look like they earn something .. CRINGE ~ 🤣🤣🤣
definitely not enough pulls for ZZZ to be a free F2P friendly game. Ill continue to spend my money here and there on HSR and keep grinding on WUWA. I think I will stick with those 2 games
I play all four games, and I think it's great there's competition.
I remember being completely heartbroken when I tried Tower of Fantasy. I could see the development budget was decent, but my impressions was that they didn't focus enough on gameplay and character design. I'd much rather they released a smaller world, but without such glaring weaknesses. Once the early game is cemented with flaws, that's going to hurt the game's user retention forever, even if there's improvement in later patches.
ZZZ surprised me in a positive way. I knew the game is not exactly open-world, but the end result was a quite immersive experience.
Also that ZZZ song has a similar chord progression as Careless Whisper, and I can't unhear it
Wait really? That's actually awesome!
Oh God no, I hate that elevator song with a passion, God thing I didn't install even though I preregistered
I have a feeling ZZZ is going to follow Genshin's path which is treating players like trash. That was the main reason why I quit Genshin and because of how few rewards they gave to players through its trashy time-consuming exploration and events back then. (I wonder if It has got better since I left a year ago).
it hasn't
Luckily it won’t. We get a clean S rank at 50 pulls on regular banner and then a selector at 300 pulls. A little steep, but already better than genuine by miles. Which isn’t saying a lot, or a huge bar to clear
I don't play Wuwa but I don't see any problem with Zhezhi and Xiangli Yao design. Though their name sound too repeatative.
What do you expect? Lots of similar names in china
@@knightmare1874 expect some variety cuz its a fkin fantasy game
@@MrSaixz Same is in Genshin and HSR. The issue is that Wuwa only created 1 region for now
I don't know about others, but I'm the most excited for Ayanakoji to be in the game, cause he's just like me fr fr
Most important about zzz vs wuwa revenue is that its mobile revenue. Massive majority of wuwa players is pc, where zzz is catered towards mobile.
"zzz is catered towards mobile" 💀
@@ethereal1414 it is true tho?
i thought you'd address how zzz is easily accessible on mobile than wuwa, compatibility wise
Are they really catered towards mobile though, they don't even have a back swap button
zzz literally has a unlimited fps feature which would burn up phones but spit ur shi my guy
Mihoyo will give shit on a plate and shills will eat it and say *Thank you, may i have more?*
Kuro: gonna give limited 5 star in 1.2. Hoyo: Here is 30 Polychromes. I think we all know name of the company we should thank with our $.
Upper Echelon Gaming mentioned Mihoyo funded to Nuclear with slogan Otaku Save the world after he said medical treatment
76 million through external fund manager, check how much it costs to build a tokomak and what the banner sales of Arlechhino was lmao
I'm having fun in both WuWa and ZZZ. Sue me.
Wuwa could do better if they optimise in mobile version and release ps version
True! But for a non-HoYo title I think it's pretty good!
Yeah please at least add controller support for my poor tablet
Some leaks suggest that ps could possibly be coming for 1.2
Wuwa has already developed on ps. I see many leaks today about that. You can search it.😊
PS5 release is gonna be sooner and they're fixing everything about the game for mobile optimization as well that's why 1.2 is some kinda stale compared to 1.1
The main problem I have zzz is the download won’t work idk if I’m the only going through this problem I wish they’d fixed this
Not just you, it seems to be a widespread problem
Its because of their servers,some countries and providers just dont want to connect to China servers/networks (because of politics and also security issues). You need VPN and/or dissable IPv6 on your network. Atleast thats what worked for me.(Still uinstaled it after few hours).
I do tend to like characters that could be out of my fantasy romance novels over just another shounen anime. Shark girl doesn't pique my interest at all, but I had a hard time deciding between Jinhsi and Changli
Like clockwork. you can set it to Hoyo quarterly earnings, makes you wonder... Makes me question some things
isnt that 30 currency just random event on their app? I mean not a big deal of event to give 10 pulls.
do you wanna know who is gonna be in first banner?
Probably Miyabi?
@@Stixxy no is xiangli yao looks like the order of the drip means nothing
@@angelosantos2268he was talking about zzz
She looks really cute
She does!
Yes she does
Snowbreak, path to nowhere and ZZZ.
Zhezhi looks unique, u dont see gacha girl characters with her aesthetic. I also feel like if WuWa came first on the gacha scene before genshin it would’ve made a lot more. Genshin already cemented the genre because it was refreshing to play a quality game back then.
25mil with 50mil downloads, so if 1mil bought monthly pass plus BP, that's already 15mil so this number is not that big.
I said this before but issue is you won’t get the “funny” (haha guys her boobs are huge right guys, horny posting so funny) reactions from streamers when they look at these models, which is also a factor in character popularity when people see a streamer go “yooo this character looks sick” and sadly as of late these types of reactions are preserved for tall female models mainly and also tall male models just because of their model, and not much else.
I really would like to see more than just tall male/female model every patch it will get hella stale.
One thing I am wondering about ZZZ is after the inital launch, will they have more trouble bringing new players in. I personally was pretty surprised and totally understand the appeal to ZZZ. But imo the game starts off much slower than the other Hoyo games. Right now we have players who have been exciting for the game for a long time and were going to get to end game regardless. Will new players quit early due to the slow start down the road? It will be interesting.
As for Wuwa I really hope they keep making decent money. Its my current favorite and Kuro is much smaller than Hoyo so i just hope the revenue is constant so they can keep making the game better
Considering how hardware demanding wuwa is, its actually impressive how they were able to get those numbers.
Lets be brutally honest here if it weren't for the fact that ZZZ is a Hoyoverse game I don't think it would even make over 10 million at launch, like look at the bigger picture here HSR made 40mil with only 14 million pre-registrations meanwhile ZZZ only made half of what HSR has made for a game that has over 50 million pre-registrations, the game is mid at best it's only successful because of the brand it's the same thing as Apple who keeps releasing the same soulless products for decades yet people will buy them because of the fact that it's made and manufactured by Apple.
China isn't a big spender cause they can't even play it at all, xD. Most Chinese players usually play on their phones and with the atrocious phone optimizations, I'm not suprised
When calculating the revenue of a game, please remind that ALL of them are ESTIMATED except official announcement, besides, types of platforms should be considered, e.g., PC/PlayStation/Android/iOS
For example, WW can only run on PC/high-end mobile, ZZZ can be played at more platforms. So which platforms are the source of these revenue is important.
Thanks for supporting husbando enjoyers stix!! I dont nees it to be 50/50 or anything but throw us a bone on occasion... !
Exactly! Even 1/4 is good! As long as you don't get the Azur Promilia route - 0 males.
The dude is going to be free btw. I'll probably be pulling his weapon instead. He looks like he will work really well with Yinlin.
100% agree when you said not every character has to look flashy like changli/yinlin
I think China is tired of a game being Chinese thats why they like hoyogames because its mix race not just only chinese
Brother, you're not right. There are also a large number of players in China who don't like miHoYo, not because it's made by Chinese people. For example, we Chinese people really like the Black Myth Wukong released on August 20th
@@user-mf5io4lw5b i mean black myth wukong isn’t gacha i just compared wuwa and zzz cn players because wuwa in cn revenue is low compared to zzz
wuwa characters that come from the new federation aren't chinese (i.e calcharo, morfeti, verina, aalto, encore, etc.)
@@wanchuponatime but the limited characters in wuwa is jiyan,yinlin and jinhsi is based on chinese dragon and Chinese clothes unlike zzz ellen joe is a maid and even zhu yuan is a Chinese name but she is a cop. And i hope wuwa released a character that not base on chinese traditions
You are pretty much wrong HSR was not well received because it was a turn based game
the reason it was so much known than ZZZ, because HSR is Honkai
the game from HI3. Honkai universe is the most well-known setting of hoyo and most character
share the same design on a different multiverse, many of the players came from GGZ and HI3 just like me.
People like who loved Himeko from HI3, Bronya the face of Mihoyo, Selee, Welt, us who were excited of possible Elysia(best girl)
multiverse, alot of us fans of honkai verse will always invest on any honkai game.
The very reason why Hoyo decide to use honkai verse in the MMO like rpg new game.
ZZZ is a new standalone story like genshin, so it is not known by most people, plus people will still judge the game
on the next few updates before considering a game to be worth investing into. For me though it is worth investing
and have drop Wuwa. Sorry to say this but Ellen Joe has the most unique character I have seen after Elysia of HI3.
Jiyan was the first SSR for Wuwa (A dude)
Ellen for ZZZ (A girl)
we all know that girls > boys in most of gacha games
At this point we all know hoyo go for the route that make the most money, appealing to the most amount of players.
ZZZ numbers are tho kinda impressive for the fact that they are truly targeting a very niche audience, I myself only play turn based these days so not gonna dabble into that, but respect to Hoyo for understanding how to cover a market from all sides.Honestly at this point they probably just need a game fully catered towards adults and they will probably have the market covered.
I already play HSR (Also BD2 and SnowBreak)... not gonna play another Hoyo game. I'd rather wait for something a little more up to my taste like Arknights Endfield, Chaos Zero Nightmare, and Sword of Convallaria.
I really hope kuro makes more 4 star characters it adds more team diversity quicker than 5 stars to the game. Thats one thing of the few things i was happy about in genshin. They made more 4 stars(even though most were lack luster compared to launch 4stars) which added alot more faces to the collection.
i got stunned by that 30 polychromes HAHAH
I think another thing to note with the high downloads but lower revenue for ZZZ is that it's the 3rd major Hoyoverse release. I think players are just playing it safer/smarter/wiser spending their money on pulls and resources after getting burnt on the previous two games. Hahaha.
PGR anniversary is around the corner with Alisa patch. I know its different game but I still hoping will get something too but if not then that's okay then.
That's another reason I quit zzz giving out 10 limited pulls for a launch event is a big red flag. 30 polychromes is a joke.
xiangli yao is confirmed to be a free limited 5star character
can someone clarify what 30 polichromes are in terms of pullls?
1 pull = 160 polychrome
So for 1 pull you need 160 polychrome, a 10 pull is 1600.
@@Stixxy A complete joke as a reward
Everyone wants a piece of the gacha market pie but that pie isn't getting bigger, the slices can only get smaller.
At least there's another log in event for 10 pulls that just started today. But I do think Hoyo takes unnecessary losses when it comes to their milestone rewards to where they might as well not even have the 30 currency, or 3 wishes.
At this point ZZZ is getting carried by it's company's name,regardless of what game this company spews out will always generate money in the 7-digits
It’s a good game tho
Nah you just cant accept the fact it is a good game.
@@mariandumitru4469 to you
As soon as the game was released, my friend spent money immediately when the gacha system was available and the worst thing is that afterwards he didn't even like the game lol
The game also sponsor like crazy lol
I think why people are thinks thats is because why have no idea of the characters. They literally came out of nowhere. I still remember people were saying Wuwa design so bad compare to something like genshin, but thats where they were wrong. Design grow on people when they are invested in the character development, kit, gameplay and story. For example, Dain form genshin has one of most dogshit for a man(adult male character) but people are invested in his story so much that they will go nuts when he releases.
1:14 I want a cool character like alpha
We might get one in the future especially on Black Shores.
if Xiangli Yao looks ordinary then what about Jiyan or Calcharo? They also look ordinary but are not. In fact, Xiangli is more unique-looking cause of his mechanical arm
Hmm... Genshin and zenless have a lot of outside of china culture in their game and receive more support from china? Is this like how Japan loves making story/game with western inspired fantasy ... While the western sometime dab and adored eastern inspired fantasy... Example like Kungfu Panda... Avatar last Airbender...... While in Japan they make things like Attack on Titan, Akira and a bunch of isekai with western medieval settings 😅 however still, to not be love so much by your own people of something inspired by your own culture is a bummer... WuWa probably has hints of Journey to The West, which is a classic (it's probably just a coincidence, idk)... The architecture in the game is heavily ... asian 😅
Yeah, outside cultures always feel more mysterious and, therefore, pique interest.
I think Zhezhi looks awesome! The other guy looks ok but i think they are designed well.
Yup same here!!
Well I had 5 re-roll accounts ready to go for ZZZ launch, cause I know how stingy Hoyo is. Maybe cut the downloads number in half or more if you want a "real" number...
HYV put so much money into the PR (way way way more than Wuwa). If u do calculation to find the Net Revenue, Wuwa prob come on top.
Hey, I Thinks The Reason Why ZZZ Have 50 million download but low profits its because on Playstore, wrong Device Specification Release.. I'm a Low End Player... I Have only a Helio P35 and 3GB Ram, and for some reason, The playstore says that, its compatible to my device. in That situation, im excited to play it, and i'm thinking that the Game is very Optimized like PGR. But Unfortunately, I Can't Play It, It Always Crashes everytime i open the app. And in the Next Day, i was surprised the ZZZ is now incompatible to my device...
(This is my Opinion, and my Guess...on that issue...i was always critized as low end player.)
I think the reason for the 25 mil is because they give you so many pulls in the beginning you really don’t have to purchase anything to get the unique banner character (Ellen)
I think going into the newer characters, after everyone has blown their pulls(pause) then players will start purchasing.
Wuwa gave more than that 😭
Yep 160 endorsed free pulls when you have to play the whole game and only a few of that 160 can be used on the limited banner vs 100+ upfront pulls and a total of 350ish+ version 1.0 rolls and more than half of them are for limited banners, no wonder many quit zzz before even getting past TV stages.
@@vampiszoonis9691 yes as apology for all their problems they had with mobile and for misstranslations....thats not something u get every patch as we see now already
@@megumin9967yup 😂 and gues what , someone like tectone who is whale and nice guy who give people battle pass dont even spend on wuwa yet , and he still got like what? 10k more and that not even include 100% 1.1 map yet 😂