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Honestly, there's a silver lining for the toonforce users. Whilst Bugs may be able to do anything, he can be outsmarted and outwitted, which is insane because he's the jokester. Technically, Taz is stronger than Bugs, and also not too bright, which allows him to push through more of Bugs' silly antics. However this isn't always the case, as Daffy is also not too smart and gets outwitted by Bugs more times than not. Another thing to note is that Taz shouldn't be as strong or on the same level as Mr. Mxy. While yes, Mxy was afraid of him, this was when he first showed up to the Looney Tunes universe. Wouldn't you be scared of a giant hairball trying to eat you as well? Its like scaling Daffy to Mxy because his anvil harmed him.
My 2 pieces of information I’m gonna throw out here: 1. I think shaggy actually isn’t skinny and is just packing super lean muscle. He eats, A LOT. Yet he is the skinniest person there, most likely from having super high metabolism, or just him burning through all the calories with all the running he does. Now this might be wrong but I swear on my life I remember fred saying that he and shaggy met because they played football together. That MIGHT be wrong and I’m just misremembering things but I swear I heard that. So yeah Shaggy clears Lebron. 2. Between Bugs and Superman it’s quite honestly a tie. Bugs Toonforce is cataclysmically strong, but superman has villains who can break the 4th wall and have abilities similar to if not equal to bugs bunny. Take Mxyzptlk, he is able to transform reality into whatever he wants with a snap of his fingers, and while he often only does this to toy around with superman he has actually gone 1v1 with him before. Has he ever won these encounters? No, but he never lost either. Bugs trickery is something Superman would VERY MUCH be familiar with and could potentially outwit him into his own demise. So realistically those 2 are quite even.
I think the major difference between Superman and Bugs can be easily explained by one of the DC/Looney Tunes crossovers. Bugs ended up being abducted by the Legion of Superheroes and brought to the future in Superboy's place, and while he helped them eventually, he was also able to incapacitate multiple members of the team, including Ultra Boy, who is a metahuman on par with a Kryptonian, only for Ultra Boy to get the same kind of double talk treatment that he usually saves for Daffy. And he fell for it.
You do realise that nuke merely separated the Iron Giant's pieces, it didn't kill him? On top of that, he's not just made out of any generic metal, he's made out of a metal so strong that the rubble from an exploding planet only caused a small dent in his head. He should be significantly higher up on this list, he's damn near invincible, and incredibly powerful both with and without weapons.
Your gonna ignor the fact that steven survived falling from earth's upper atmospher while being crushed by all the earth's water that lapis held up, Most of the characters shouldn't even be able to bypass his bubble
Kid Steven should get to multi Conti but his verse caps at star level which chars like Finn,bugs bunny,Taz,superman,wonder woman and Rick have higher calcs and feats
@@gabrielmbx9253 Rick drunk is way more unpredictable. Omni man speed blitses finn but finn can oneshot. omni man is just a flying brick though so literally everone has a wider arsenal.
I know that you said you might be a little biased when ranking Steven since you’re not a fan of the series or the character, but ranking him lower than Jason is crazy.
Fr, Steven had some insane strength feats, he casually survived being smashed into concrete, or had a giant stone statue thrown into him, or being able to set off a airbag with a single hit, or his small healing factor, or is nearly 100% invincible shield and bubble
@@Derp-rz1nn that’s not going into his real high level stuff. This is clearly kid Steven so we can say that this could be a version season 5 Steven. Even without going into Finale stuff, he was able to take an attack from Yellow only getting knocked out, which is something that’s at least comparable to Alexandrite who was knocked out by Blue. If we do go into Finale territory, below Jason is the biggest downgrade you could give to him.
I didn't even consider how seriously powerful and broken Jake really was just by pure, natural strenght and feats, I always thought he was stronger than Finn but he just didn't get to showcase it often since he's the more chill and laidback of the two brothers, but this video reminded me of some of the crazy stuff he just randomly comes up with He's almost perfectly similar to Plastic Man, two shapeshifting, super chill and cool dudes who would be a incredibly serious threats if they just took things more seriously
I can definitely tell that you didn't watch Steven universe, because even as a young kid he was able to defeat what are basically the frieza's of his universe
@@ultradeathboyPersonally, i just don’t see kid Steven beating Jason since that dude has Immorality. I don’t think Steven has a weapon that can permanently kill Jason. Plus, most of his arsenal consist of defensive weapons. The only viable weapon he has is the cannon, but that requires to charge it up if I’m not mistaken. Jason himself is decently durable, and can likely survive most of Steven’s attacks. Yeah, Steven is also durable but i don’t think he has ever gotten stab by a real weapon (especially with someone who’s physically stronger)
No not even close Finn in early seasons gets to star level to higher while Steven only gets to large planetary in the end of the series kid Steven is like moon level
@@gameuniverse5973his shield no diffed a tri-diamomd blast which has been calced anywhere from star-solar, and overpowered a similar laser fired from White, which would be greater if not equal to the Tri-Diamond blast.
@@ERROR5600 captain marvel is shazam, marvel stole the name and dc cant use it as a title do to Trademark reasons. In the year 1940 the character captain marvel was created by fawcett comics and was bought by dc. Marvels captain marvel was created in 1967 and that wasnt even carol danvers.
After rewatching old Tom and Jerry and some looney tunes ,from my experience at least toonforce seems to be something that’s in favor of the prey against the hunter ,the reason bugs did all that and survived and almost won eveytime is that he mostly is the prey to others like Elmer taz etc ,but in rare cases like rhapsody rabbit ,he isn’t the prey ,but acts more like a hunter ,and so in that one short ,he actually lost and got exhausted(also when a character like Jerry for example gets too ignorant and abuse thier “toonforce” they seem to lose it)
Toon force runs on a “just desserts” clause It doesn’t matter how you spin it, if you deserve to lose or if it would be funny for you to lose, you will It is why I think the question of Bugs v Superman depends on one thing and one thing only. Which Superman? A more angsty version is sorta a coinflip if they will have Bugs beat this impossible foe or do a gag of him running away for a whole episode while hitting Supes with kryptonite frying pans But Supes as his classic icon of heroism self? That Superman would win 9/10 times because how can you spit in the eye of the world’s greatest hero and be considered the just party?
Yeah he's talking before finn lost his arm, so his lack of experiance and dependency on jake in the first seasons (where finn is canonically younger I.e 12 in season 1) makes him weaker than jake in his MV form.
@@KindaSubparkid Steven being above a peak lapis who with a broken gem already shown with calcs to move a Conti to higher ocean while Jason can't even get past large city with Jason x
Finn and Jake are generally portrayed as being relative to each other Jake being a bit stronger than Finn but Grass sword Finn would or robot arm fin would beat Jake if he could beat Fern who conically should be far stronger than Jake
you know the op written characters and cartoon characters that defy logic would be at the top. still glad to see finn a bit more than halfway up the list tho, dude is incredibly tough and strong for a 12-14 year old human boy in a world of utter insanity and chaos. def one of my fav protagonists in any show
tbf tho if we're ignoring bias, alot of his powers and further skills are due to prep/weapon and gear types which he probably wouldnt have in most scenarios similar to how joker, batman and rick are lower
I can picture Rick preparing a device or enhancement that gives him the toon force to fight other toons, or even take it away entirely, leaving them average human level.
Honestly hear me out rq, I feel like banana guard would be above velma(and MAYBE Lebron) due to the fact that they have shown to be able to get relatively strong, and also a base form banana guard did knock out jake with one punch.
14:57 I like how you remembered these little feats, because even if they seem kinda minor, inosuke has showed us how moving our insides around is very useful for surviving murder
I think the Gems from Steven Universe are stronger than we think, and I haven't watched the show much. I'd say Garnet is at least stronger than Finn, and with Steven it's hard to tell as a lot of the feats he has are depending on when this Steven is from. Overall though I think this is a pretty good ranking based on canon powers, you could swap a few around and it still work, but that's the nature of these types of lists. If we were to add Agent Smith to the list though, I'd say he ranks mid to high. He'd be higher if it weren't for the fact that he's basically a computer in a giant computer, and when you take that computer out of the bigger computer, I think a lot of his abilities drastically drop in power or what he can do. If he could go all out, with the cloning and "teleporting," I could see him getting far. Neo still beat him in the first movie, though that was after being basically killed by him and coming back to life. The third film has Smith at his strongest, and he still got beat, though he didn't use all his clones in that final fight, they just watched. The second film has him use the clones in a horde attack on Neo, but he still got beat pretty handily. That being said, he still has his insane punches in Multiversus, his Agent dodge, and some form of teleportation in his recovery. I think he'd come just short of Tom & Jerry, but still beat Batman on a good day.
Steven sorta had super strength and durability, he doesn’t use it much till he’s older but he’s still able to casually lift a box of supplies that 2 grown men struggled with, or he walked off being smashed into concrete from 30 or so feet in the air
@@Derp-rz1nnSteven scales above a lapis fused jasper who lapis with ful strength scales over her broken gem variant who moved a low ball Conti level area of force to make that water pillar
Nah, finn is more strenge, finn scale to planet level, and steven a diamond, in the final of the serie, scale to the same level, im think garnet stay in the correct place
Think of it like this: Lapis when her gem was cracked was able to steal the entire ocean, her race of gems are literally known for terraforming planets, literally cutting through earth with just their water powers. Lapiz fused with jasper, becoming malachite. Malachite lost to Alexandria, Alexandria was no diffed by blue diamonds powers (which do affect other diamonds as well) Blue diamond and yellow diamond were both no diffed together by white diamond(albeit because of her mind control powers but even before that, they were scared of her) White diamond then got no diffed by pink Steven
Steven has healing powers that can heal almost anything (in the series it was not shown if he could heal organs, but he could heal a broken bone very easily in moments). Steven has superhuman strength, the ability to create long-lasting shields and bubbles, he has a slow fall, he can control people's emotions, he can revive people with his tears, he can change the shape of his bubbles to whatever he wants (platforms, mallets, etc.), he can fuse with any being and he has very high level of endurance. And all this is Steven as a child, then he becomes a very broken being, although Superman and Wonder Woman could still defeat him.
@@thegentlegiant9459 I don’t remember who said it (it might’ve been Stan Lee), but he said something along the lines of “power scaling is irrelevant because the winner of any two character fighting will be whoever the writer/director wants to win” so like theoretically a rouge evil Superman is literally unstoppable, but practically no writer/director will ever actually do that because it’s not interesting to have literally unharmable infinite power dude just wipes out existence with his fingertips
Comic book characters are pretty crazy. Black Adam has blown straight through the Spectres head (a godlike being in dc) and Tom and Jerry isn’t as consistently powerful of a verse as other toons
@@KindaSubpar I'm not sure if Tom's ability to take a certain shape of the object that hit him, or straight up shattering like glass, but then being in one piece a few seconds later would be able to tank through somethin' like that, but I don't think he would necessarily lose, since he seems immovable to a regard, but I think that goes characters with toon force in general.
This is my Top Based in My Scalings 🗣🔥 1- Bugs 🤝 Superman 2- Wonder Woman 3- Finn (Comics Carry) 4- Black Adam 5- Batman 6- Rick Sanchez 7- Tom & Jerry 8- Marvin 9- Taz 10- Jake 11- Morty 12- Jason (MK Carry) 13- Steven Universe 14- Shaggy (Toon Force Carry) 15- Garnet 16- Iron Giant 17- Joker 18- Harley Quinn 19- Raindog 20- Arya Stark 21- Velma 22- Stripe 23- LeBron James 24- Gizmo 25- Banana Guard Nice video Man 🔥
Jason didn't *_just_* inexplicably come back after Jason Goes to Hell, he came back because Freddy brought him back. There's still not much explanation on how he did that, but he did.
Steven should've been higher but you acknowledged there was some bias / lack of info. Otherwise good list in my opinion. Also out of interest where would you place Agent Smith?
The bias was a joke more or less lmao, but yea I haven’t watched the show all the way through As someone who hasn’t watched the matrix im also not too knowledgeable, but I’d assume somewhere from Jason-Morty
I feel like you've really REALLY low balled Steven here. Even ignoring his Pink form Steven is fast enough to blur the human eye, his shield can slice through marble like its made of paper, and he scales to Bismuth in terms of speed who can block beams of light, and after losing the vast majority of his powers he is still strong enough to partially lift a Skyscraper sized drill filled with liquid before his powers turn off completely. And with his Pink Form the guy is able to see people like Garnet and Bismuth in slow motion despite the fact that they can block beams of light.
Considering he ranked shaggy super low just because his powers are based off memes And he straight up said he barely watched Steven universe, nor did he watch space jam
@@ultradeathboy I mean yeah. Meme power isn't actual canon power. In fact he should have ranked Shaggy lower because the only reason he beat the bikers is because he got hit with a rock that made him lose his fear.
Tom and Jerry actually have a constellation feat similar to Martin. In Tom and Jerry Tales episode Cat Nebula the episode ends with Tom and Jerry blowing up in space turning into constellations where they are still alive and Tom continues to chase Jerry through space. No idea how to calc that though.
Just off the top of my head and without any research I’d imagine Samurai Jack to be around/above Finn and Beetlejuice to be at least above Jake (assuming he’s as strong as I think he is)
This is a really good video, a few things however; you forgot to mention that Stripe can multiply and create town levels of gremlins just by getting wet, the Jason they use in multiversus is a human based off the human tag they give him, so I’m not sure if you should be counting his zombie feats but his move set has countless references to what he does as a zombie so I’m not even sure, and lastly, Superman should be at #1 since at this point, every mainline Superman is canon therefore every crazy feat he does counts! Bugs’ toonforce is crazy at around universal or higher, but Superman has displayed many multiversal+ feats that can even go way beyond that, based off stats alone Superman should be at #1. Check out the Superman vs Goku death battle 3 for more :)
Fun fact, the idea of the iron giant came from when the creator thought of what if you gave a gun a soul it’s obviously way more into the story than that but for the most part, that’s what the giant is a destroyer was given a soul and went against his purpose
I'm also not a huge fan of toon force when being factored into fights and abilities, as it implies it's some sort of force that can be consciously tapped into. Rather, it's a double-edged sword that runs off of Rule of Funny, subverting expectations, and karma. Could Bugs Bunny saw off the entirety of Florida? Only if it's funny, but then he'll have the entire U.S. army on his tail, having him running for dear life. And in the short where he snapped the animator's brush, he was still being tormented by the animator all throughout. His tormentor? Elmer Fudd. Again, Rule of Funny and by extension toon force as a whole is a double-edged sword whose power comes with a tiny yet significant Comic Sans asterisk.
This was a fun idea for a video. I think it would be cool to make another one in maybe a year or make it a yearly thing (if MVS lasts that long). I had a feeling the top 2 would be Bugs and Superman. I definitely recommend checking out the Matrix. It's a great movie.
@@KindaSubpar I think the description was pretty accurate, he’s a 50ft tall metal robot that can atomize tanks. I feel like Garnet and especially Finn wouldn’t be able to beat him is all. Maybe I’m just being a salty IG main, good video regardless :)
@@Bruhface0019Young Steven knocked dazed Yellow with his shield, who's equal to Blue who basically bodied the gems. His shield is also blocking like 90% of the characters in this game without difficulty
This listing is way better than I expected honestly. My only real gripe is that I feel like the iron giant is a bit too low. Like garnet above the iron giant is kind of crazy, but other than that this is pretty much perfect.
Yeah Agent Smith won’t get high on this list. But if we pull his powers from the Matrix and keep them functioning the same outside of it, he’d be a very high threat level. But it’s doubtful they’d work like that. So he’s near the bottom. Around Jason level.
I think shaggy should be higher, because unlike Velma, he has some pretty decent showings in his series, even if it's not to the same level of scooby. Also didn't Taz canonically beat wonder woman in a comic? I'm pretty sure he should be up there with bugs. Other than that this was a pretty good ranking.
Jason vs Steven is a matchup i think is surprisingly close but i do think Steve could maybe knock Jason out and bubble him somewhere is my guess for how Steven overcomes Jadon Vorehees
next do a list of skins of characters that are different than the base character (black lantern supes, the batman who laughs, superman 1 million, black lantern wonder woman ect...)
Also in the Finn part he either has soul manipulation or soul manipulation resistance as he's capable of avoiding his soul getting sucked, has limited telekinesis and limited energy projection and manipulation and later in the show Finn became completely immune to all forms of electricity.
Shaggy might be higher taking into consideration that in the multiversus lore he eats a thing that granted him his super powers. (He ate it because he thought it was a candy of sorts)
@@Preteristboy dint they literally say that the hypnosis can't make him do what he can't actually do physically with it just being a confidence booster not a amp to his stats
Samurai Jack and Beetlejuice were announced today Jack i feel has some distance but Beetlejuice I feel could be #2 with more lethal toonforce and being undead. While no idea if increased power or weakness in the sequel yet, the first movie, his main defeat was by surprise, eaten by a giant sandworm crashing in the roof. Bugs i feel is the only one who has enougu chaos but also wit to outsmart him
Ok, a few things, putting Jake so far above Finn makes no sense since it was shown that they have relativity to each other in Who Would Win and Together Again Also if Steven is at all relative to Lapis (I'm not sure since I haven't gotten that far in the show yet) that would put him right behind Finn at Multi Continental, since Lapis was able to lift all of Earth's oceans into the sky, as well as flying to Homeworld in an implied short period of time. Also also, putting Batman above Finn for "beating up guys who can lift 15 tons" is crazy. And ain't no way does Bugs have any Outerversal or Immeasurable feats that put him above Superman and Wonder Woman
Finn should be star level to higher since he no sell a 4d black hole while kid Steven does scale to Conti and multi Conti but does not compare to Finn universal to multi scaling
I'd def move steven up more considering theres more powers that were not listed, like his ability to change his own form ( example: he turns into a giant kaiju once his mental state was at its absolute lowest ), he's able to shatter gems with his own shield, and he has an increased power stats I'd say he's around finn, if not same tier, maybe like 1 tier before
Since nobody has done so yet here's my analysis of Agent Smith, coming as a pretty big matrix fan: Top 10 for sure, scales around the same area as batman. Assuming he has full access to his matrix powers (Like he does in MVS), things get pretty bonkers; He can duplicate himself infinitely, ignore gravity, freeze time, and easily punch trough concrete. Smith essentially has complete control over the world around him, which makes sense given that he's an AI tasked with removing threats to the simulated matrix world. For his ranking, i think the same level as Batman is fair. Theyre both hyper intelligent, master martial artists, and can keep up with light-speed opponents. While smith lacks a lot of attack potency, he's pretty much unkillable, the inverse of batman who has a very high attack power but is still very mortal. Jason doesnt have anything to counter planetary-level opponents, which is why hes not any higher on this list. This is my analysis at least, if you have any questions let me know!
I mean it's pretty cut and dry that Marvin, Taz, Bugs, Tom, Jerry, & maybe Lebron all share the top spot with Toon Forse, Rick & maybe Morty are a close second with the 4th wall shenanigans, and Shaggy is in 3rd due to the Ultra Instinct joke which can be classified as a lesser Toon Forse everything else tracks
If you put agent smith in this list I think he would have been higher than garnet but below Finn. But hey I also never watched Steven universe so I don’t really known if garnet is stronger than agent smith but what I’ve seen of agent smith he’s very strong. Also imagine bugs bunny beats goku, doom guy, and kartos, it will be low diff for bugs bunny.
I think you are right about Rick where could be the ones above him. It is also hard to say since his character is literally about pulling things out of his ass. His tech is basically magic at times where he can solve problems cause he conveniently create something to do so out of scraps.
The bias against Steven universe was a joke lmao. But I am aware that im not super knowledgeable because I haven’t watched it as thoroughly as something like adventure time
My guy you've never seen the matrix. It's kickass check it out for sure. Agent Smith is a program who can warp the artificial reality of the matrix at will as he's part of the system
I mean bugs is also a genius considering that time he tricked Elmer Fudd to essentially digging his own grave. He’ll in the looney tunes show he invented a Time Machine if I remember correctly. Also if we are going to count superbly prime punching a hole in reality bugs breaking the 4th wall would count then too.
I kept thinking "This is when Morty is gonna show up." I really underestimated him.
His tech carries
bugs bunny as number one is too perfect
remaking the video rn and putting Finn at number 1
@@KindaSubparnah bugs should still be one tbh he has the power of toon force and he practically never dies
@@KindaSubparNah, Superman and Bugs Bunny has a better feats
Number 3 probably
I was joking lol Wonder Woman slices him in half
@@KindaSubparwe got ourselves a rabbit hater
I promise you an entire army of Banana Guards would perish one by one trying to capture a single Gremlin
Banana pudding
They’d perish trying to catch a raccoon
@@beywheelzhater8930 they’d perish trying to catch. end of sentence
@@uniconwizardsb1122 they’d perish. End of sentence
@@beywheelzhater8930they’d. end of sentence.
Lebron's actually real so he solos.
Lebron sitting in a room alone ready to fight (none of the other characters exist)
@@KindaSubpar he's literally beyond them in a higher dimensional plane of existence
Dude, he can create his own reality at their strongest, and makes himself win against all of them if he writes an entire book about it, dude is real.
Based
Have you ever wondered why he's the only one that exists? It's because he already killed the other characters.
Honestly, there's a silver lining for the toonforce users. Whilst Bugs may be able to do anything, he can be outsmarted and outwitted, which is insane because he's the jokester. Technically, Taz is stronger than Bugs, and also not too bright, which allows him to push through more of Bugs' silly antics. However this isn't always the case, as Daffy is also not too smart and gets outwitted by Bugs more times than not. Another thing to note is that Taz shouldn't be as strong or on the same level as Mr. Mxy. While yes, Mxy was afraid of him, this was when he first showed up to the Looney Tunes universe. Wouldn't you be scared of a giant hairball trying to eat you as well? Its like scaling Daffy to Mxy because his anvil harmed him.
well there’s levels to toonforce too, mxy n bugs bein the strongest and guys like luffy from one piece being the weakest.
@@itsfedorahere9985bro when has luffy ever had toon force
@@Yeahmydude10gear 5
@@Aiden-qo8op ehh that's more like small scale reality manipulation
@@Yeahmydude10 isn’t that what toonforce is?
My 2 pieces of information I’m gonna throw out here:
1. I think shaggy actually isn’t skinny and is just packing super lean muscle. He eats, A LOT. Yet he is the skinniest person there, most likely from having super high metabolism, or just him burning through all the calories with all the running he does. Now this might be wrong but I swear on my life I remember fred saying that he and shaggy met because they played football together. That MIGHT be wrong and I’m just misremembering things but I swear I heard that. So yeah Shaggy clears Lebron.
2. Between Bugs and Superman it’s quite honestly a tie. Bugs Toonforce is cataclysmically strong, but superman has villains who can break the 4th wall and have abilities similar to if not equal to bugs bunny. Take Mxyzptlk, he is able to transform reality into whatever he wants with a snap of his fingers, and while he often only does this to toy around with superman he has actually gone 1v1 with him before. Has he ever won these encounters? No, but he never lost either. Bugs trickery is something Superman would VERY MUCH be familiar with and could potentially outwit him into his own demise. So realistically those 2 are quite even.
@@FlahgyBro dudes skinny as fuck
na bro superman gets knocked out by the comically large hammer.
I think the major difference between Superman and Bugs can be easily explained by one of the DC/Looney Tunes crossovers.
Bugs ended up being abducted by the Legion of Superheroes and brought to the future in Superboy's place, and while he helped them eventually, he was also able to incapacitate multiple members of the team, including Ultra Boy, who is a metahuman on par with a Kryptonian, only for Ultra Boy to get the same kind of double talk treatment that he usually saves for Daffy. And he fell for it.
You do realise that nuke merely separated the Iron Giant's pieces, it didn't kill him? On top of that, he's not just made out of any generic metal, he's made out of a metal so strong that the rubble from an exploding planet only caused a small dent in his head. He should be significantly higher up on this list, he's damn near invincible, and incredibly powerful both with and without weapons.
I may have downplayed him a bit with his description but I genuinely don’t think he can beat anyone above him
Can we do cosmology
Stvean higher
@@KindaSubparhe could 100%
lil bro got heated
Your gonna ignor the fact that steven survived falling from earth's upper atmospher while being crushed by all the earth's water that lapis held up, Most of the characters shouldn't even be able to bypass his bubble
Kid Steven should get to multi Conti but his verse caps at star level which chars like Finn,bugs bunny,Taz,superman,wonder woman and Rick have higher calcs and feats
@@gameuniverse5973 Omni man can beat most of the characters you haven't listed by flying so fast that he lights the atmosphere on fire
@@Wizardwarlock324is funny beacuse in reality, only can defeat finn and maybe a rick drunked
@@gabrielmbx9253 Rick drunk is way more unpredictable. Omni man speed blitses finn but finn can oneshot. omni man is just a flying brick though so literally everone has a wider arsenal.
I know that you said you might be a little biased when ranking Steven since you’re not a fan of the series or the character, but ranking him lower than Jason is crazy.
Fr, Steven had some insane strength feats, he casually survived being smashed into concrete, or had a giant stone statue thrown into him, or being able to set off a airbag with a single hit, or his small healing factor, or is nearly 100% invincible shield and bubble
@@Derp-rz1nn that’s not going into his real high level stuff. This is clearly kid Steven so we can say that this could be a version season 5 Steven. Even without going into Finale stuff, he was able to take an attack from Yellow only getting knocked out, which is something that’s at least comparable to Alexandrite who was knocked out by Blue. If we do go into Finale territory, below Jason is the biggest downgrade you could give to him.
@@kai_3788 exactly
…And BATMAN 😂😭😭😭😭
@@kai_3788if we go to future finale he’s definitely top 5 of the list
I didn't even consider how seriously powerful and broken Jake really was just by pure, natural strenght and feats, I always thought he was stronger than Finn but he just didn't get to showcase it often since he's the more chill and laidback of the two brothers, but this video reminded me of some of the crazy stuff he just randomly comes up with
He's almost perfectly similar to Plastic Man, two shapeshifting, super chill and cool dudes who would be a incredibly serious threats if they just took things more seriously
Which means he would be durable enough to do Shrink-And-Grow. Just like Plastic-Man.
I can definitely tell that you didn't watch Steven universe, because even as a young kid he was able to defeat what are basically the frieza's of his universe
His placement is still kinda right.
@@monkeybarawhat has Jason or iron giant ever done that's better than defeating tyrants capable of destroying the world?
@@ultradeathboyPersonally, i just don’t see kid Steven beating Jason since that dude has Immorality. I don’t think Steven has a weapon that can permanently kill Jason.
Plus, most of his arsenal consist of defensive weapons. The only viable weapon he has is the cannon, but that requires to charge it up if I’m not mistaken.
Jason himself is decently durable, and can likely survive most of Steven’s attacks. Yeah, Steven is also durable but i don’t think he has ever gotten stab by a real weapon (especially with someone who’s physically stronger)
@@IDK-qq7ct He could just bubble him
@@ultradeathboy
Didn’t he convince them to be good Or smth like that?
You’re acting like he singlehandedly killed them all
Steven in the endgame definitely gets a lot higher, he'd be at least under Finn
No not even close Finn in early seasons gets to star level to higher while Steven only gets to large planetary in the end of the series kid Steven is like moon level
@@gameuniverse5973his shield no diffed a tri-diamomd blast which has been calced anywhere from star-solar, and overpowered a similar laser fired from White, which would be greater if not equal to the Tri-Diamond blast.
It is lunacy, that we got black adam, but not captain marvel/shazam.
Definitely a weird choice but they literally only did it because the movie was coming out
Captain Marvel is Marvel not DC and Warner Bros has access to DC so that’s why they probably haven’t and won’t use them but Shazam might come
@@ERROR5600 captain marvel is shazam, marvel stole the name and dc cant use it as a title do to Trademark reasons.
In the year 1940 the character captain marvel was created by fawcett comics and was bought by dc. Marvels captain marvel was created in 1967 and that wasnt even carol danvers.
you could say it’s LOONY
It’s Surprising that we still haven’t gotten Robin or any the Teen Titans.
After rewatching old Tom and Jerry and some looney tunes ,from my experience at least toonforce seems to be something that’s in favor of the prey against the hunter ,the reason bugs did all that and survived and almost won eveytime is that he mostly is the prey to others like Elmer taz etc ,but in rare cases like rhapsody rabbit ,he isn’t the prey ,but acts more like a hunter ,and so in that one short ,he actually lost and got exhausted(also when a character like Jerry for example gets too ignorant and abuse thier “toonforce” they seem to lose it)
Toon force runs on a “just desserts” clause
It doesn’t matter how you spin it, if you deserve to lose or if it would be funny for you to lose, you will
It is why I think the question of Bugs v Superman depends on one thing and one thing only. Which Superman? A more angsty version is sorta a coinflip if they will have Bugs beat this impossible foe or do a gag of him running away for a whole episode while hitting Supes with kryptonite frying pans
But Supes as his classic icon of heroism self? That Superman would win 9/10 times because how can you spit in the eye of the world’s greatest hero and be considered the just party?
The middle of this list is out of wack. Jason
Not too knowledgeable on Steven tbf
Base forms, no robot hand, no grass sword, Jake Wins
Yeah he's talking before finn lost his arm, so his lack of experiance and dependency on jake in the first seasons (where finn is canonically younger I.e 12 in season 1) makes him weaker than jake in his MV form.
@@KindaSubparkid Steven being above a peak lapis who with a broken gem already shown with calcs to move a Conti to higher ocean while Jason can't even get past large city with Jason x
Finn and Jake are generally portrayed as being relative to each other Jake being a bit stronger than Finn but Grass sword Finn would or robot arm fin would beat Jake if he could beat Fern who conically should be far stronger than Jake
@@KindaSubpar you used grass sword feats in the video... Also, Finn can use his thorn without the grass sword
That Marvin the Martian reference to his friend broke me. 🤣
LOL I’m glad someone caught it
@@KindaSubpar It was by far the highlight of the video. I appreciate your sense of humor.
you know the op written characters and cartoon characters that defy logic would be at the top. still glad to see finn a bit more than halfway up the list tho, dude is incredibly tough and strong for a 12-14 year old human boy in a world of utter insanity and chaos. def one of my fav protagonists in any show
Finns just insanely tough
tbf tho if we're ignoring bias, alot of his powers and further skills are due to prep/weapon and gear types which he probably wouldnt have in most scenarios similar to how joker, batman and rick are lower
I can picture Rick preparing a device or enhancement that gives him the toon force to fight other toons, or even take it away entirely, leaving them average human level.
I mean, Toons are toons, he aint winning
Knowing Rick, he'd probably just steal a sample of the Dip from "Roger Rabbit" and synthesize into a bullet.
OR use it on himself
Honestly hear me out rq, I feel like banana guard would be above velma(and MAYBE Lebron) due to the fact that they have shown to be able to get relatively strong, and also a base form banana guard did knock out jake with one punch.
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I like how you remembered these little feats, because even if they seem kinda minor, inosuke has showed us how moving our insides around is very useful for surviving murder
This was a great video, I like the effort you put into it.
Huge thanks
Great video, cant wait to see you do a potential follow up once Season 2 wraps up after it comes out.
I LOVE YOU 🥳💗 keep up the good work
Your comments keep this channel alive 🫡
Finn higher
Great list. I was skeptical with some of the spots, such as Batman. But you gave solid points, definitely deserves a like.
I think the Gems from Steven Universe are stronger than we think, and I haven't watched the show much. I'd say Garnet is at least stronger than Finn, and with Steven it's hard to tell as a lot of the feats he has are depending on when this Steven is from. Overall though I think this is a pretty good ranking based on canon powers, you could swap a few around and it still work, but that's the nature of these types of lists.
If we were to add Agent Smith to the list though, I'd say he ranks mid to high. He'd be higher if it weren't for the fact that he's basically a computer in a giant computer, and when you take that computer out of the bigger computer, I think a lot of his abilities drastically drop in power or what he can do. If he could go all out, with the cloning and "teleporting," I could see him getting far. Neo still beat him in the first movie, though that was after being basically killed by him and coming back to life. The third film has Smith at his strongest, and he still got beat, though he didn't use all his clones in that final fight, they just watched. The second film has him use the clones in a horde attack on Neo, but he still got beat pretty handily. That being said, he still has his insane punches in Multiversus, his Agent dodge, and some form of teleportation in his recovery. I think he'd come just short of Tom & Jerry, but still beat Batman on a good day.
Steven sorta had super strength and durability, he doesn’t use it much till he’s older but he’s still able to casually lift a box of supplies that 2 grown men struggled with, or he walked off being smashed into concrete from 30 or so feet in the air
@@Derp-rz1nnSteven scales above a lapis fused jasper who lapis with ful strength scales over her broken gem variant who moved a low ball Conti level area of force to make that water pillar
Nah, finn is more strenge, finn scale to planet level, and steven a diamond, in the final of the serie, scale to the same level, im think garnet stay in the correct place
Think of it like this: Lapis when her gem was cracked was able to steal the entire ocean, her race of gems are literally known for terraforming planets, literally cutting through earth with just their water powers.
Lapiz fused with jasper, becoming malachite. Malachite lost to Alexandria, Alexandria was no diffed by blue diamonds powers (which do affect other diamonds as well)
Blue diamond and yellow diamond were both no diffed together by white diamond(albeit because of her mind control powers but even before that, they were scared of her)
White diamond then got no diffed by pink Steven
Steven has healing powers that can heal almost anything (in the series it was not shown if he could heal organs, but he could heal a broken bone very easily in moments).
Steven has superhuman strength, the ability to create long-lasting shields and bubbles, he has a slow fall, he can control people's emotions, he can revive people with his tears, he can change the shape of his bubbles to whatever he wants (platforms, mallets, etc.), he can fuse with any being and he has very high level of endurance.
And all this is Steven as a child, then he becomes a very broken being, although Superman and Wonder Woman could still defeat him.
I don't want to create hate, good video by the way ^^
Doesn’t Superman in the comics canonically have “unlimited power” thereby making him even stronger than toon force and by extension Bugs Bunny?
If he did have “unlimited power” why when he turns evil he almost always loses
@@thegentlegiant9459 I don’t remember who said it (it might’ve been Stan Lee), but he said something along the lines of “power scaling is irrelevant because the winner of any two character fighting will be whoever the writer/director wants to win” so like theoretically a rouge evil Superman is literally unstoppable, but practically no writer/director will ever actually do that because it’s not interesting to have literally unharmable infinite power dude just wipes out existence with his fingertips
unlimited power doesnt mean he has certain powers.
Yeah "toon force" Is simply exaggerated since most of them are universe level threats at best
yes he does
Yes the list we needed
Tom and jerry below black Adam is mad 😭🙏🏾
I lost it at that part of the video, but it's a pretty good ranking nonetheless!
Comic book characters are pretty crazy. Black Adam has blown straight through the Spectres head (a godlike being in dc) and Tom and Jerry isn’t as consistently powerful of a verse as other toons
@@KindaSubpar I'm not sure if Tom's ability to take a certain shape of the object that hit him, or straight up shattering like glass, but then being in one piece a few seconds later would be able to tank through somethin' like that, but I don't think he would necessarily lose, since he seems immovable to a regard, but I think that goes characters with toon force in general.
fr black aadam would strike him with lightning, he turns into a fried spikey cat, blinks twice then shakes it off.
Any dc characters from overs loney toons any day
This is my Top Based in My Scalings 🗣🔥
1- Bugs 🤝 Superman
2- Wonder Woman
3- Finn (Comics Carry)
4- Black Adam
5- Batman
6- Rick Sanchez
7- Tom & Jerry
8- Marvin
9- Taz
10- Jake
11- Morty
12- Jason (MK Carry)
13- Steven Universe
14- Shaggy (Toon Force Carry)
15- Garnet
16- Iron Giant
17- Joker
18- Harley Quinn
19- Raindog
20- Arya Stark
21- Velma
22- Stripe
23- LeBron James
24- Gizmo
25- Banana Guard
Nice video Man 🔥
Lebron solos because he is real 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥(joke)
Brodie neither batman or finn are beating rick
(Batman might with prep time but still)
@@aidaniscreative636nah you're right
Jason didn't *_just_* inexplicably come back after Jason Goes to Hell, he came back because Freddy brought him back. There's still not much explanation on how he did that, but he did.
You should do this again but with variants that change the character
If this games still going in a year or so I’ll definitely revisit with new games/all cosmetics
Steven should've been higher but you acknowledged there was some bias / lack of info. Otherwise good list in my opinion.
Also out of interest where would you place Agent Smith?
The bias was a joke more or less lmao, but yea I haven’t watched the show all the way through
As someone who hasn’t watched the matrix im also not too knowledgeable, but I’d assume somewhere from Jason-Morty
@@KindaSubparliterally the first season shows a Conti level feat to higher than kid Steven massively overscales
steven and garnet are wayy too low
Steven yeah, but I don't see Garnet beating anyone that ranked above her.
Just an addition, Iron Giant survived the nuke without injury only blowing him apart like the train did
I feel like you've really REALLY low balled Steven here.
Even ignoring his Pink form Steven is fast enough to blur the human eye, his shield can slice through marble like its made of paper, and he scales to Bismuth in terms of speed who can block beams of light, and after losing the vast majority of his powers he is still strong enough to partially lift a Skyscraper sized drill filled with liquid before his powers turn off completely.
And with his Pink Form the guy is able to see people like Garnet and Bismuth in slow motion despite the fact that they can block beams of light.
another peak vid man keep it up
Big thanks man 🫡
Ngl this list in my opinion is kind of bad love the idea and but the placement
Love your vids
@@user-bu5cs8vf5c thanks I think
@@SleeveNash17 you welcome I think
YES! FINALLY someone claims Gremlins IS a Christmas movie like I do! Nice work
Top tier Christmas movie
The iron giant survived the nuke at the end. He was pulling himself back together. But he did get KO'd I guess.
Iron giant litearly survived the nuke at the end of the movie, does this guy not do resesrch before making his videos lmao
Considering he ranked shaggy super low just because his powers are based off memes
And he straight up said he barely watched Steven universe, nor did he watch space jam
@@ultradeathboy I mean yeah. Meme power isn't actual canon power. In fact he should have ranked Shaggy lower because the only reason he beat the bikers is because he got hit with a rock that made him lose his fear.
As soon as i read the title, i KNEW bugs was in 1st.
Really well made video btw
Huge thanks PaoEmForma
@@KindaSubpar no problem man!
Tom and Jerry actually have a constellation feat similar to Martin. In Tom and Jerry Tales episode Cat Nebula the episode ends with Tom and Jerry blowing up in space turning into constellations where they are still alive and Tom continues to chase Jerry through space. No idea how to calc that though.
Where do you think the newly released fighters (Beetlejuice and Samurai Jack) go?
Just off the top of my head and without any research I’d imagine Samurai Jack to be around/above Finn and Beetlejuice to be at least above Jake (assuming he’s as strong as I think he is)
So now that Agent Smith is out, where would you rank him and why?
The way Steven would dog walk Jason Voorhees yeah you undersold him hard
This is a really good video, a few things however; you forgot to mention that Stripe can multiply and create town levels of gremlins just by getting wet, the Jason they use in multiversus is a human based off the human tag they give him, so I’m not sure if you should be counting his zombie feats but his move set has countless references to what he does as a zombie so I’m not even sure, and lastly, Superman should be at #1 since at this point, every mainline Superman is canon therefore every crazy feat he does counts! Bugs’ toonforce is crazy at around universal or higher, but Superman has displayed many multiversal+ feats that can even go way beyond that, based off stats alone Superman should be at #1. Check out the Superman vs Goku death battle 3 for more :)
I think superman and bugs are equally powerful tbh
Fun fact, the idea of the iron giant came from when the creator thought of what if you gave a gun a soul it’s obviously way more into the story than that but for the most part, that’s what the giant is a destroyer was given a soul and went against his purpose
What about agent Smith?
Where would you place him?
I'm also not a huge fan of toon force when being factored into fights and abilities, as it implies it's some sort of force that can be consciously tapped into. Rather, it's a double-edged sword that runs off of Rule of Funny, subverting expectations, and karma. Could Bugs Bunny saw off the entirety of Florida? Only if it's funny, but then he'll have the entire U.S. army on his tail, having him running for dear life. And in the short where he snapped the animator's brush, he was still being tormented by the animator all throughout. His tormentor? Elmer Fudd.
Again, Rule of Funny and by extension toon force as a whole is a double-edged sword whose power comes with a tiny yet significant Comic Sans asterisk.
This was a fun idea for a video. I think it would be cool to make another one in maybe a year or make it a yearly thing (if MVS lasts that long). I had a feeling the top 2 would be Bugs and Superman. I definitely recommend checking out the Matrix. It's a great movie.
Why the HELL is shaggy that low
I might just have my own biases but Iron Giant is way too low on the list
I may have downplayed his description a bit but I genuinely don’t believe he beats the ones above him
@@KindaSubpar I think the description was pretty accurate, he’s a 50ft tall metal robot that can atomize tanks. I feel like Garnet and especially Finn wouldn’t be able to beat him is all. Maybe I’m just being a salty IG main, good video regardless :)
Now hold on a second, Jason ain’t beating Steven
Jason x is only large city at best while kid Steven scales to multi Conti broken gem lapis
@@gameuniverse5973 I don’t even know about large city,but Steven can turn into a kaiju, that’s not in the game but still there
@@AnimeWalterWhiteyoung Steven
@@Bruhface0019 what of him?
@@Bruhface0019Young Steven knocked dazed Yellow with his shield, who's equal to Blue who basically bodied the gems. His shield is also blocking like 90% of the characters in this game without difficulty
where would you put neo?
Wait until uncle grandpa gets in multiversus
This listing is way better than I expected honestly. My only real gripe is that I feel like the iron giant is a bit too low. Like garnet above the iron giant is kind of crazy, but other than that this is pretty much perfect.
Ngl forgot this game existed
Yeah Agent Smith won’t get high on this list. But if we pull his powers from the Matrix and keep them functioning the same outside of it, he’d be a very high threat level. But it’s doubtful they’d work like that. So he’s near the bottom. Around Jason level.
This should be a battle royal like the Pokémon battle royal
how does batman can win against iron giant
yes we read them
I think shaggy should be higher, because unlike Velma, he has some pretty decent showings in his series, even if it's not to the same level of scooby. Also didn't Taz canonically beat wonder woman in a comic? I'm pretty sure he should be up there with bugs. Other than that this was a pretty good ranking.
Respect for trying to powerscale Toon Force and normal characters. That must’ve been frustrating choosing where they place.
It most definitely was. Super inconsistent feats lmao
Jason vs Steven is a matchup i think is surprisingly close but i do think Steve could maybe knock Jason out and bubble him somewhere is my guess for how Steven overcomes Jadon Vorehees
Now I want to see a death battle between Rick and Bugs Bunny
There's this thing where certain characters know how to deal with toon force to an extent so I think rick would definitely know what to do
great thumbnail
I could see why Finn could be at 12 but I think he deserves at least top 10 tho-
next do a list of skins of characters that are different than the base character (black lantern supes, the batman who laughs, superman 1 million, black lantern wonder woman ect...)
Also in the Finn part he either has soul manipulation or soul manipulation resistance as he's capable of avoiding his soul getting sucked, has limited telekinesis and limited energy projection and manipulation and later in the show Finn became completely immune to all forms of electricity.
Shaggy might be higher taking into consideration that in the multiversus lore he eats a thing that granted him his super powers. (He ate it because he thought it was a candy of sorts)
Rick also has a device that can create and destroy timelines in the comicd
Your lucky that’s not future steven
Yes people read the description
Could whote or yellow diamond beat bugs
What movie does Uber Jason appear? And also why does he kinda look like a terminator?
Jason X
@@KindaSubparah ok thx
Number 1 gotta be between bugs and superman no doubt.
Bugs has all of Superman's Abilities minus their weaknesses. Him being number one makes perfect sence.
LMFAO😂 (that meme, really?) 2:04
Caveat: Shaggy was hypnotized in the barfight scene, and as such, we cannot count any of the feats in this scene as part of his base toolkit.
@@Preteristboy dint they literally say that the hypnosis can't make him do what he can't actually do physically with it just being a confidence booster not a amp to his stats
I don’t think you can rank shaggy without addressing his meme.
This list was decent till you got biased can't lie
Agent smith assuming that he’s basically just as powerful outside of the matrix is gonna put him in the top 10 easily
Samurai Jack and Beetlejuice were announced today
Jack i feel has some distance but Beetlejuice I feel could be #2 with more lethal toonforce and being undead. While no idea if increased power or weakness in the sequel yet, the first movie, his main defeat was by surprise, eaten by a giant sandworm crashing in the roof. Bugs i feel is the only one who has enougu chaos but also wit to outsmart him
Damn i wish jason was higher but i can understand also we gotta know where agent Smith gets placed in curious
I'm still waiting for Popeye to be added into the game
Ok, a few things, putting Jake so far above Finn makes no sense since it was shown that they have relativity to each other in Who Would Win and Together Again
Also if Steven is at all relative to Lapis (I'm not sure since I haven't gotten that far in the show yet) that would put him right behind Finn at Multi Continental, since Lapis was able to lift all of Earth's oceans into the sky, as well as flying to Homeworld in an implied short period of time.
Also also, putting Batman above Finn for "beating up guys who can lift 15 tons" is crazy.
And ain't no way does Bugs have any Outerversal or Immeasurable feats that put him above Superman and Wonder Woman
Finn should be star level to higher since he no sell a 4d black hole while kid Steven does scale to Conti and multi Conti but does not compare to Finn universal to multi scaling
I'd def move steven up more considering theres more powers that were not listed, like his ability to change his own form ( example: he turns into a giant kaiju once his mental state was at its absolute lowest ), he's able to shatter gems with his own shield, and he has an increased power stats
I'd say he's around finn, if not same tier, maybe like 1 tier before
How does Garnet kill the Iron Giant? Its heavily implied he tanked a nuke and survived at the end of the movie.
Since nobody has done so yet here's my analysis of Agent Smith, coming as a pretty big matrix fan: Top 10 for sure, scales around the same area as batman.
Assuming he has full access to his matrix powers (Like he does in MVS), things get pretty bonkers; He can duplicate himself infinitely, ignore gravity, freeze time, and easily punch trough concrete. Smith essentially has complete control over the world around him, which makes sense given that he's an AI tasked with removing threats to the simulated matrix world.
For his ranking, i think the same level as Batman is fair. Theyre both hyper intelligent, master martial artists, and can keep up with light-speed opponents. While smith lacks a lot of attack potency, he's pretty much unkillable, the inverse of batman who has a very high attack power but is still very mortal. Jason doesnt have anything to counter planetary-level opponents, which is why hes not any higher on this list.
This is my analysis at least, if you have any questions let me know!
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I like how batman can beat iron giant that took a nuke that only put him in pieces then he brought himself back together after it
I mean it's pretty cut and dry that Marvin, Taz, Bugs, Tom, Jerry, & maybe Lebron all share the top spot with Toon Forse, Rick & maybe Morty are a close second with the 4th wall shenanigans, and Shaggy is in 3rd due to the Ultra Instinct joke which can be classified as a lesser Toon Forse
everything else tracks
Shaggy can canonically go super saiyan
If you put agent smith in this list I think he would have been higher than garnet but below Finn. But hey I also never watched Steven universe so I don’t really known if garnet is stronger than agent smith but what I’ve seen of agent smith he’s very strong. Also imagine bugs bunny beats goku, doom guy, and kartos, it will be low diff for bugs bunny.
I think you are right about Rick where could be the ones above him. It is also hard to say since his character is literally about pulling things out of his ass. His tech is basically magic at times where he can solve problems cause he conveniently create something to do so out of scraps.
This video was good until you started getting bias
Exactly tho
Exactly lol
Fortunately it’s his account so he can have biases… sorry they don’t align with yours. Make a video about it if you want a better outcome.
The bias against Steven universe was a joke lmao. But I am aware that im not super knowledgeable because I haven’t watched it as thoroughly as something like adventure time
Bugs is a god amongst men, what more is there to say😂
My guy you've never seen the matrix. It's kickass check it out for sure. Agent Smith is a program who can warp the artificial reality of the matrix at will as he's part of the system
LMAO yea I’ve seen bits of the first movie when I was younger
I’m sure I’ll watch at least the first movie eventually
I feel like shaggy should be higher on this list, even rick was surprised by shaggys energy levels
I mean bugs is also a genius considering that time he tricked Elmer Fudd to essentially digging his own grave. He’ll in the looney tunes show he invented a Time Machine if I remember correctly. Also if we are going to count superbly prime punching a hole in reality bugs breaking the 4th wall would count then too.
I wanna see bugs beat the crap out of every one on the Teirlist