X-Plane 12 - The Best NEW Flight Simulator?

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  • @sadraadib306
    @sadraadib306 Před 2 lety +998

    X-Plane 12 feels a little rushed. It just looks like a graphic overhaul. As of right now X-Plane 12 needs a lot of addons to look good. I hope In the future with addons X-Plane 12 can start to compare to the beauty of MSFS.

    • @caribbaviator7058
      @caribbaviator7058 Před 2 lety +34

      Wish we had a combo of both. I will use both anyway . I like the flight model better in XP12 especially the adverse yaw movement that is more closer to reality.

    • @jounaas
      @jounaas Před 2 lety +72

      when will people realise its and early acces/ beta not full release

    • @mediumlightlads8815
      @mediumlightlads8815 Před 2 lety +11

      @@jounaas ong lmao

    • @skabyy
      @skabyy Před 2 lety +20

      it’s an early access game, more updates will come out later

    • @rodrigocuevas1987
      @rodrigocuevas1987 Před 2 lety +1

      also with a 2gb vram or 4gb vram graphics card the fps performance is horrible

  • @2BachShakur
    @2BachShakur Před 2 lety +212

    Even if we pull MSFS out of the equation and judge X-Plane 12 on its own merits, I’m struggling to see the justification behind the $60 price when it cursorily looks identical to X-Plane 11.

    • @tonywoutrs
      @tonywoutrs Před 2 lety +13

      If it wasn't for MSFS you'd see more difference. Imho
      But I would say I'm gonna wait a bit before purchasing.

    • @alieffauzanrizky7202
      @alieffauzanrizky7202 Před 2 lety +3

      It's still on early access...

    • @WarrenPostma
      @WarrenPostma Před 2 lety +4

      The XPlane 11 trees were crap. It only looks the same when you ignore the whole planet.

    • @alunesh12345
      @alunesh12345 Před 2 lety +4

      @@tonywoutrs Believe in JESUS today, confess and repent of your sins. No one goes to heaven for doing good but by believing in JESUS who died for our sins. For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.(John 3:16)🥳❤️😁

    • @thomasrossbabin3671
      @thomasrossbabin3671 Před 2 lety +1

      @@alieffauzanrizky7202 🤓🤓🤓

  • @maxw2974
    @maxw2974 Před 2 lety +85

    If you look closely, the Plane „floats“ a bit over the runway! Clouds are still bad compared to MSFS

    • @colasmulot
      @colasmulot Před 2 lety +7

      I agree clouds still look terrible and bland, even DCS World has much better clouds.

    • @alexaghajanovaviation3365
      @alexaghajanovaviation3365 Před 2 lety +2

      @@benos4x4adventures49 well yes, its the same simulator from 1995 continuously being updated. some aspects are essentially the same as xp11.

    • @benos4x4adventures49
      @benos4x4adventures49 Před 2 lety +4

      @@alexaghajanovaviation3365 basically its Xplane11.5 😆

    • @alexaghajanovaviation3365
      @alexaghajanovaviation3365 Před 2 lety +1

      @@benos4x4adventures49 maybe more 11.8, it is inquestionable that massive improvements have been made, but everyone can tell its essentially the same sim upgraded. plus 11.55 is a thing :D

    • @kensoran0013
      @kensoran0013 Před 2 lety

      I guess that’s why I’m ya early access

  • @joaoperpetua8285
    @joaoperpetua8285 Před 2 lety +408

    The UI still feels old. The thing that bothers me the most and one of the things I love the most in MSFS is the world map where you can see all the airports and calculate from there your route depending on the time you want to spend flying. Aside from the lighting which is marginally better, the graphics overall don't seem like a big upgrade from xp11

    • @alexaghajanovaviation3365
      @alexaghajanovaviation3365 Před 2 lety +6

      they said they like the simple ui and its a bit of a "if it aint broke dont fix it" type of situation, also regarding graphics in general they said its not a top priority but will improve the ground scenery throughout xplane 12's lifetime.

    • @topgun1457
      @topgun1457 Před 2 lety +16

      @@alexaghajanovaviation3365 yeah on xplane 20 lmao

    • @jacksonsoto5308
      @jacksonsoto5308 Před 2 lety +14

      @@alexaghajanovaviation3365 Graphics should be top priority competing with some of the best graphics on any game ever in MSFS

    • @gabagool8
      @gabagool8 Před 2 lety +20

      @@jacksonsoto5308 Why? Graphics don't matter much when you're in the air, which is what I usually do in my flight simulators. As long as the plane looks good and the scenery looks acceptable, I'm happy.

    • @oreogyt4817
      @oreogyt4817 Před 2 lety +11

      @@jacksonsoto5308 they’re not competing with Microsoft flight simulator, they have better aircraft physics and models, which is way more important than graphics in a flight simulator

  • @AmilcarP
    @AmilcarP Před 2 lety +160

    The big problem here is that MSFS was released and it set the standard too high. Like blackberry and iphone. It is hard to compare anymore. I understand people say physics in xplane is better but at the end of the day both of them will never hit the spot. When i was getting my private rating. I was doing perfect landing on the simulator. When it was my turn to flight in real life damn those feet were hurting from so much rudders to keep the damn c172 on centerline. It was a different monster. I do not see much different at the end to the point to give up msfs scenary. Autogen is ok but they need to improve the graphics the same way they did the trees.

    • @uraymeiviar
      @uraymeiviar Před 2 lety +9

      trees does not even look good

    • @gaenthusiast9427
      @gaenthusiast9427 Před 2 lety +4

      True.XP would have been Blackberry and MSFS would have been IPhone. It was always and uphill battle for Blackberry when the IPhone was released, Blackberry has to contend with new and more advanced technology in the IPhone.

    • @uraymeiviar
      @uraymeiviar Před 2 lety +4

      @@gaenthusiast9427 and P3D is nokia?

    • @gaenthusiast9427
      @gaenthusiast9427 Před 2 lety +2

      @@uraymeiviar Ahh, I guess P3D would be Nokia 🤣. I never really thought about it 🤣.

    • @hodb3906
      @hodb3906 Před 2 lety +3

      It’s still in beta ffs.
      It’s just always the same. When msfs was in beta, p3d and xplane users couldn’t wait to dogpile.
      Now that xplane 12 is in beta, msfs users can wait to dogpile either.

  • @mrenergykills
    @mrenergykills Před 2 lety +178

    I wish msfs and xplane could combine everything together and give us an amazing flight sim 😅

    • @hallyzhou
      @hallyzhou Před 2 lety +16

      Micro$off could totally just purchase Laminar but that’s gonna trigger another investigation I bet

    • @aidenaviation
      @aidenaviation Před 2 lety +5

      That would be brilliant

    • @sgxttt
      @sgxttt Před 2 lety +4

      This is why fans could never be devs

    • @mrenergykills
      @mrenergykills Před 2 lety +7

      @@sgxttt By taking the physics of xplane and graphics of msfs? 🤣🤣

    • @mrenergykills
      @mrenergykills Před 2 lety +1

      @lion air MD-90-30 🤣🤣

  • @gaenthusiast9427
    @gaenthusiast9427 Před 2 lety +33

    The clouds in XP 12 are pretty poor, it needs a lot more work by LR. Overall, XP 12 is more like XP 11.5.

  • @aviatorschannel
    @aviatorschannel Před 2 lety +12

    1:32 if I’m not mistaking that’s not Seattle Airport, but Portland Airport KPDX

  • @operatorblackbird
    @operatorblackbird Před 2 lety +155

    Already bought it, quite happy with it, I wished the F-14D was more detailed though, and I hope someone makes a mod for the A330 with the same quality as the Zibo 737.

    • @YN-io6kj
      @YN-io6kj Před 2 lety +5

      A qhole dev community/team is already on it lol. Look up XP12 A33x development and doscord.

    • @hpharold23
      @hpharold23 Před 2 lety +4

      Lol A330 has 737 FMC there you.. ahahaha

    • @nwpilot07
      @nwpilot07 Před 2 lety +5

      @@hpharold23 come on, it really doesn’t take much research to see that the 737 fmc is there as a placeholder during the beta while they continue to develop the full fmgs system, do better.

    • @alunesh12345
      @alunesh12345 Před 2 lety +2

      @@YN-io6kj Believe in JESUS today, confess and repent of your sins. No one goes to heaven for doing good but by believing in JESUS who died for our sins. For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.(John 3:16)🥳❤️😁

  • @FrancescoSpace
    @FrancescoSpace Před 2 lety +77

    I bet the whole community was waiting for this video. LET’S GOOO!

    • @Kilosim
      @Kilosim Před 2 lety +4

      Yes agreed

    • @ziepex7009
      @ziepex7009 Před 2 lety +3

      was waiting for a good xp12 but oh well lol

    • @FrancescoSpace
      @FrancescoSpace Před 2 lety +1

      @@ziepex7009 it’s actually really good, just wait for proper terrain addons, tbh that’s the only major downside

    • @degamewinner2727
      @degamewinner2727 Před 2 lety +1

      @@ziepex7009 its early access. still time to improve

    • @JYang365
      @JYang365 Před 2 lety

      @Ziepex also the blurriness is a early acces bug

  • @Rosheikh.
    @Rosheikh. Před 2 lety +17

    I think in my opinion that MSFS is still the winner out of the flight sims, But i do like the new graphic improvement.

  • @omarliew1164
    @omarliew1164 Před 2 lety +91

    i've only used msfs since 98 and never understood why lot's of people where so convinced about x-plane being superior. Tried the Demo today and still don't get it. Low res textures, bad aliasing, bad texture filtering. I don't even care about there's no satelite images. It would still look terrible. The flight model might be 'superior' to msfs according to Austin, but after flying around a bit in the default c172 i think it's just complete nonsense. Both sims have their shortcommings, But it looks like x-plane has the most of them. For me atleast.
    Still both don't come close to flying irl though.

    • @isaacwatkins-rye4379
      @isaacwatkins-rye4379 Před 2 lety +3

      I agree

    • @topgun1457
      @topgun1457 Před 2 lety +4

      @@sesgow msfs and xplane 12 have the same c172

    • @bossmarcus3449
      @bossmarcus3449 Před 2 lety +1

      one word, physics

    • @omarliew1164
      @omarliew1164 Před 2 lety +1

      @@sesgow that is true, the default airliners aren't any good in msfs. But this doesn't mean the entire capabilities of the sim are bad. As pmdg has shown with the 737.

    • @mercster
      @mercster Před 2 lety +1

      The flight model feels better. I agree that MSFS graphics are important, but it seems that's most of what you care about. Other people have different priorities. It's nothing to be "baffled" by or call "nonsense"... everyone can have their own likes and dislikes, this isn't comparing friggin' arcade fighting games. Calm down.

  • @no_name2882
    @no_name2882 Před 2 lety +85

    I still feel as if the add-on planes for Msfs make it a better flight sim. The scenery seems more real in MSFS2020.

    • @mikeyplayzwrld
      @mikeyplayzwrld Před 2 lety +17

      Even the addon planes don't realistically represent how the plane really flies though. Msfs graphics are good, but the whole "flight simulator" aspect is sluggish.

    • @no_name2882
      @no_name2882 Před 2 lety +2

      @@Godzilaer simcade?

    • @no_name2882
      @no_name2882 Před 2 lety +5

      @@mikeyplayzwrld some planes do a relatively good job at representing their real life counterparts

    • @fsx-legend4602
      @fsx-legend4602 Před 2 lety +18

      @@Godzilaer These comments are so played out, ever tried the WTG1000nxi in MSFS?

    • @elnathanlello7331
      @elnathanlello7331 Před 2 lety +24

      @@Godzilaer MSFS IS A FLIGHT SIMULATOR

  • @nomadicplays
    @nomadicplays Před 2 lety +10

    If Laminar And Microsoft Worked together to make a flight sim, It would be a masterpiece!

  • @skabyy
    @skabyy Před 2 lety +62

    x-plane 12 and msfs2020 comparison would be pretty cool, to see the differences

    • @SoupGuyy
      @SoupGuyy Před 2 lety +4

      Well if only msfs had Xplane physics msfs would be the best sim of the era

    • @SarcaSebi
      @SarcaSebi Před 2 lety +1

      I really think x plane is much better imo

    • @fortel7939
      @fortel7939 Před 2 lety +4

      I think that msfs is for people who want to have beautiful graphics and x plane for people that want to focus more on the plane himself

    • @kyantoerse
      @kyantoerse Před 2 lety

      @@fortel7939 the planes in msfs look better but in xplane the planes fly better

    • @JWC924
      @JWC924 Před 2 lety +17

      @@SoupGuyy keep beating the dead horse on the physics discussion. As a CA for United Airlines with a type rating for A319/320 737 757/767. Xplane physics are nothing special.. Xplane 12 finally caught up to MSFS 2004

  • @dariush.2375
    @dariush.2375 Před 2 lety +291

    Compared to MSFS, this just looks horrifying

    • @benos4x4adventures49
      @benos4x4adventures49 Před 2 lety +18

      i agree 100%

    • @rrocketman
      @rrocketman Před 2 lety +7

      lol u said it

    • @bankruptcy7477
      @bankruptcy7477 Před rokem +27

      Compared To The Problems With MSFS
      1) Not Available In Mac
      2) Physics Engine
      3) More Computer Specs Required
      Even Though I can Play on x box cloud it will require a controller and I can't use honeycomb yoke

    • @emel69
      @emel69 Před rokem +14

      It's on early access for a reason :/

    • @Maboywassup
      @Maboywassup Před rokem +19

      yeah yeah, always some guy saying MFSF Bettar

  • @flyin_with_ryan
    @flyin_with_ryan Před 2 lety +25

    Hmm. This seems rushed. If you didn’t tell me this was XP12, I would have a hard time figuring it out. Only the the trees, clouds, and water changed. It just seems like modded XP11. Looks nice though, but for some reason I think I like XP11 more than this, I don’t know why. Maybe because I had higher expectations. I’m gonna stick with MSFS just because of how quick the updates are.

  • @RaspySquares
    @RaspySquares Před 2 lety +9

    The afterburner of the F14 changing color at higher altitudes is cool.

  • @matfar23
    @matfar23 Před rokem +8

    After playing xplane 11 and switching to Msfs2020 it feels like flying in gta but I really miss the b737 xplane has. It felt like a real plane, it was extremely fps friendly and I truely miss the realism of the way the plane flys and feels that xplane gave me. I remember when outa no where they updated that vuelcan thing and it gave me 20fps so I really felt like the developers were with me unlike microsoft where they expect us to have high end system or your dead

    • @greenlizardballs
      @greenlizardballs Před rokem +1

      That is because msfs is basically gta doing a great job pretending to be a simulator. That's literally what it is.

    • @Deltaexe190
      @Deltaexe190 Před 6 měsíci

      @@greenlizardballsno, fenix a320 pmdg 737 has awesome physics that outdo all xplane physics

  • @prezent1979
    @prezent1979 Před 2 lety +4

    11:02 “oh we don’t even have it animated”
    Said mr Swiss about a static modelled mash…
    But seriously great video man!

  • @moritzherr
    @moritzherr Před 2 lety +18

    How come that everyone just acts like this is such an awesome sim? I don't want to offend anybody by any means but I just find it sad to see them release a Sim with such a poor graphics quality and general lack of features in 2022 and call it a competitor to MSFS... Sure MSFS physics aren't quite there yet but with Flight physics improving further and further + all of the awesome study level planes + The level of detail all around the globe because of cloud streaming + Volumetric clouds that can only be semi matched by DCS, you sadly just can't call X-Plane a good competitor in the year 2022. I mean just forget it. And all of the praising aside about how much the graphics of XP12 improved over XP11: Yeah sure it did improve but that is not changing the fact that it still looks like a bad game from 2010 xD How come that everyone just unsees this, I mean you can't be serious to release something of this quality in 2022...
    Feel like people are just hyping this sim up for nostalgia sake...
    That's just my feeling about it, how do you feel?
    Am I missing something?

    • @martinvandersandt4631
      @martinvandersandt4631 Před 2 lety +8

      Well said... People complain a lot about msfs bugs, but that normal when you're on the cutting edge of technology.
      When you're polishing an old engine like xplane, you will always have a more stable platform.
      Developer tools is another aspects. Its so much easier to developers for msfs, and that reflects in add on price, and amount of add ons available.

    • @badubies
      @badubies Před 2 lety +3

      Honestly I tried MSFS, I really tried to like it.. but I get 3 times more frames per second in vr with xplane 12 then msfs. MSFS is over vibrant, almost cartoonish. They really nailed the lighting in xp 12..

    • @FrancescoSpace
      @FrancescoSpace Před 2 lety +2

      If MSFS didn’t exist, or if X-Plane 12 released two years ago, you wouldn’t say this is 2010 quality. MSFS is just setting the bar incredibly high with graphics, and they can because they own Bing and all of that.

    • @Lyudol
      @Lyudol Před 2 lety +6

      It’s not meant to be a competitor to MSFS. The whole point of X-Plane is to have really really good flight physics, environmental physics and systems simulation depth. The scenery that you see out of the window is just an accessory.
      X-Plane markets itself to serious flight simmers and pilot training establishments. And those markets only care about the aspects I mentioned before.
      It’s no coincidence that most professional pilot training simulators run X-Plane.
      MSFS on the other hand doesn’t aim to please those markets. They are more aimed for the casual simmers or just people looking to try a new game. Sure, the scenery and graphics are awesome, but for serious applications and purposes, it doesn’t cut it.

    • @jcpflier6703
      @jcpflier6703 Před 2 lety +2

      Bravo 👏 I agree with you. I really think people need to stop acting like this is the new slice bread. Look, MSFS put the bar at the edge of the universe. Laminar aint going to reach that. They dont have the budgeting. They really need to focus on mobile phone simulation and making study level planes. I am willing to be that with time, Laminar will find itself the way of Sega. No one is going to want to spend hundreds/thousands of dollars trying to get Xplane to look like what MSFS looks like out the box.

  • @leroi804
    @leroi804 Před 2 lety +6

    Not even close to MSFS20... sorry but it still looks like a 2010 game.... it doesn't matter how deep the simulation is.... Flying is also about visuals, graphics and scenery.
    In terms of simulation, MSFS20 is also getting close to study level with payware addons as well as some freeware.

  • @itsnoah4276
    @itsnoah4276 Před 2 lety +5

    I think I would still prefer msfs

  • @drpenguin57
    @drpenguin57 Před 2 lety +5

    FS2020 has a replay mode now. You have to enable it in dev tools currently but it's there

  • @maltimoto
    @maltimoto Před 2 lety +20

    "Fremdschämen" is the german word if you feel very ashamed for someone else, in this case Laminar Research. Clouds, puddles, ice, everything looks a little weird. Ground textures are horrible. No satellite scenery. The only thing speaking for XP are the flight phyics which are really good. I don't know. I am a big XP 11 fan but XP 12 is not enough to justify 60 $.

  • @alderlake12th
    @alderlake12th Před 2 lety +1

    Xplane 12 like add new planes and graphcis overhaul. Almost, they love Aero GUI in Windows Vista and Windows 7

  • @vicatoren3967
    @vicatoren3967 Před rokem +3

    My man really starts his games from the folder

  • @eric4143
    @eric4143 Před 6 měsíci +1

    The reason I choose XP12 over MSFS is simply that MSFS needs a PhD to even run. IT crashes it has so many bugs and is unmaintained. I raged and bought xplane as their devs seem to care at least

  • @pmaschke
    @pmaschke Před 2 lety +4

    Bought it because I got excited by the PR....then I realized it looks and feels exactly like 11....the puddles are aweful, the physics stink let alone collision triggers...(flew through a Boeing and terminal before it triggerd a smoking effect). The lessons are the exact same as in 11 and here I was lead to believe that it would be a new and exciting thing....very disappointed....

  • @Karl-cg9cv
    @Karl-cg9cv Před 2 lety +3

    This cockpit is the best freeware ive seen so far... Zibo 737: am i a joke to you?

  • @CaptainQuinn001
    @CaptainQuinn001 Před 2 lety +3

    I LITERALLY JUST BOUGHT MSFS 2 WEEKS AGO, BOUGHT PMDG 737-800 YESTERDAY AND NOW X-PLANE 12 IS OUT?!

    • @090giver090
      @090giver090 Před 2 lety

      Yeah, crack is MUCH cheaper than flight simming ;)

    • @spectacularflying3905
      @spectacularflying3905 Před 2 lety +2

      That’s no problem because msfs 2020 is better

    • @ZZ24667
      @ZZ24667 Před 2 měsíci

      Msfs has graphics
      Xplane has physics

    • @CaptainQuinn001
      @CaptainQuinn001 Před 2 měsíci

      @@ZZ24667 that comment was from 1yr ago lmao

  • @sebastian0018
    @sebastian0018 Před 2 lety +2

    X Plane11 to X-Plane 12: I have to warn you from swiss001, he crashed my planes.

  • @Liachu_
    @Liachu_ Před 2 lety +11

    That graphic change between Xplane11 and Xplane12 is so crazy 🤯
    it looks like they have a 10 years release difference

    • @PuuroLehma
      @PuuroLehma Před 2 lety

      Thats true. (Your channel is cool liachu)

    • @Boeing-Aeronautica
      @Boeing-Aeronautica Před 2 lety

      Liachu and his flight sim crew

    • @Liachu_
      @Liachu_ Před 2 lety

      @@PuuroLehma thanks 🔥

    • @Spiritwonder420
      @Spiritwonder420 Před 2 lety +5

      lol if you look at microsoft flight sim xplane still looks shit

  • @Infiniteplanezyt
    @Infiniteplanezyt Před 2 lety +1

    5:17 the MHHHMMMM always gets me xD

  • @ThorntonWillie
    @ThorntonWillie Před 2 lety +3

    Oh yeah the a330 using a bare bones 737 fmc is just saf

  • @averageboeing737
    @averageboeing737 Před 2 lety +3

    Cant wait for someone to do something for the A330 like the 737 ZIBO.

  • @TomTom-iz3ot
    @TomTom-iz3ot Před 2 lety +4

    I think x-Plane always looks so blank, the windows don’t look transparent

  • @BestIkeaTable
    @BestIkeaTable Před 2 lety +1

    12:59 Swiss has a stroke lmao

  • @tigerking9054
    @tigerking9054 Před 2 lety +3

    To end the war, Xplane has the physics, and Microsoft has the realism

  • @kemi242
    @kemi242 Před 2 lety +1

    X Plane improved a lot on graphics, but MSFS still looks a lot better. X Plane is better having a damn replay mode, which we are still waiting for two years for Microsoft/Asobo to implement properly.

  • @jwattie144
    @jwattie144 Před 2 lety +3

    I like the UI better in Xplane and I like how easy it is to remap controls compared to FS2020.

  • @mattcrazy7070
    @mattcrazy7070 Před 2 lety +1

    Msfs came out and they panicked, polished up x plane 11 a little bit, and slapped a new tittle and 60 dollar price tag on it.

  • @chapaaviation7521
    @chapaaviation7521 Před 2 lety +3

    Tbh, I will probably stick with xplane 11 as it has more addons that can make the game look so much better

    • @Das_Mx
      @Das_Mx Před 2 lety

      Fax,but when they add all the x plane 11 addons to xp12 im definitely buying it

    • @090giver090
      @090giver090 Před 2 lety

      @@Das_Mx Let's just pray that addon developers don't force us to re-buy these addons again (like it sometimes was when X-Plane updated from 10 to 11)

  • @iamanioitfromroblox
    @iamanioitfromroblox Před 6 měsíci +1

    the thing is, early access was 60 bucks but full release base was free. I got x-plane 12 for free but paid the cost of an hour - long download.

  • @palwaukeeflyer
    @palwaukeeflyer Před 2 lety +3

    Even 2007 Call of Duty 4 looks better than 2022 Xplane 12.

  • @oscar.mistry3502
    @oscar.mistry3502 Před 2 lety +2

    Geez last time i was this early, the 707 was in service

  • @maltimoto
    @maltimoto Před 2 lety +3

    Very mixed feelings here. I have 2600 hours in XP 11 and bought XP 12. Installed my Toliss A321. Depending on the weather, really bad performance and stuttering. Flight Factor does not work at all. Zibo works, but some things like wipers dont.
    Orthos work but they show the "old" trees.
    I have enough of XP 12, I will use MSFS for the next weeks. XP 12 is underwhelming and unfinished.

  • @europe0017
    @europe0017 Před 2 lety +3

    I think X-plane is trying senery but focusing on the planes the most altho msfs is really good x plane is worth it

  • @ThePilotFish-zx4in
    @ThePilotFish-zx4in Před 2 lety +3

    Im actually starting to get into the flight simmer stuff and im really excited to try some of the stuff out. I think im just gonna start with msfs and work my way through there.

  • @RCHeliJet
    @RCHeliJet Před 2 lety +2

    With the Citation in Samedan Airport Love it :)

  • @imaingan4884
    @imaingan4884 Před 2 lety +3

    I don't know what it is... but for some reason i still view msfs2020 as more realistic, i mean don't get me wrong it looks amazing and all but i just don't know what's letting it down...

    • @xepic_c7901
      @xepic_c7901 Před 2 lety

      bruh msfs is so realistic that it doesn’t look like real life

    • @imaingan4884
      @imaingan4884 Před 2 lety

      @@xepic_c7901 fair

  • @DB-be9wy
    @DB-be9wy Před 2 lety +1

    These are things that should have been in xp11 four years ago in all honesty. Xp11 was an unfinished product from a graphics standpoint almost from day one.

  • @NoobWarsGames
    @NoobWarsGames Před 2 lety +4

    I love both flight simulators, but FS2020 clearly is way better in graphics and entertainment, I don't see the superiority of x-plane, It's a good flight simulator but it still doesn't beat fs2020 in a lot of things, I feel like in xp12 the developers really just spend more time on the graphics and surroundings of the map more then actually fixing some of their freeware planes. I have flown the c172 before and the handling of the aircraft felt way different then fs and x-plane, and based on what I saw in your video x-plane kind of just looked the same but with upgraded shaders and a higher budget to develop. The hype of the flight simulator is overrated, but the same goes for fs2020. Still good flight simulators tho.

    • @Deltaexe190
      @Deltaexe190 Před 6 měsíci

      i fly the 172 in real life and the msfs plane behaves much more like the real aircraft then xplane with the default, but the 172 addon for xplane is true to life and it’s great

    • @NoobWarsGames
      @NoobWarsGames Před 6 měsíci

      I feel like this is also because MSFS has a reputation from 2020 because in 2020 their plane physics weren't good at all.. I still love XPlane but MSFS is definitely a contender soon, just have to give them some time though.@@Deltaexe190

  • @officialbloxminer
    @officialbloxminer Před 2 lety +2

    I think people are hating too much on XPlane12, it is after all early access and it is not at all the final release. I think we should wait a bit more and see what the future has in store for us for XPlane12. Also XPlane12 has not that many add-ons to download so who knows what it would look like with add-ons.

    • @NeoAiR
      @NeoAiR Před 2 lety

      agreed

    • @maccruncie9148
      @maccruncie9148 Před 2 lety +1

      reason of early access is because laminar was running out of money, thats my theory and 60 quid for a a330 with 737 mcdu 😂😂😂😂

    • @NeoAiR
      @NeoAiR Před 2 lety

      @@maccruncie9148 maybe lol

  • @nytstalker1380
    @nytstalker1380 Před 2 lety +8

    The quality of the A330 model is quite disappointing. I really want to like this but overall it just cannot compete with the resources that MSFS has.

  • @tonikkdarmous
    @tonikkdarmous Před rokem +1

    Does anyone know if x-plane 11 or 12 has like a noob mode? I am new to aviation so starting a plane is like trying to speak chinese🙂 I am thinking like in msfs that it already spawnes you on the runway and you are ready to fly.

  • @kadenz4989
    @kadenz4989 Před 2 lety +4

    Unfortunately, I think its a shame that the developers dare to release such an unfinished game. In times where we have the access to a game like MSFS, this is just not a threatening competetitor, more a parody of it. I can understand people that they rely on 100% perfectly accurate physics, but who can actually proof that MSFS´s physics in payware addons like the FENIX are so much worse? And we can say that most of us will not be flying any of these planes in real life, so we will not be abled to make an own experience to compare- that we have to leave to the professionals. And again, if you still prefer the 1000% proper physics of an airplane, there are still opportunites to get your hands on, like P3D, which is of course used in real life simulators of proper airlines aswell. I did play XP11 for a long time, too. But this rather minor enhancement of a game, that already exists, is too weak.
    So, my question is: Why releasing such a game if we already have both, the visuals and absolutely sufficient flight physics for a normal all- day life sim- pilot? And a hardcore simulation like P3D if people want to dive into it. Why holding on to a legacy that desperately tries to maintain its existence, while the game barely outperforms the predecessor, neither any of its competition.
    I think it quite embarrissing and relying on add ons is the wrong approach to a freshly released game. I hoped that we could see more than that, because this is just a poor misfire.
    Regards

  • @RealSamuelMach
    @RealSamuelMach Před 2 lety +2

    To be fair Msfs2020 has a WAY bigger budget than xplane12 I still love X-Plane 11 though more than msfs

  • @prezent1979
    @prezent1979 Před 2 lety +6

    Just letting you know that “animation” is to make 3d stuff move aka animated. When you talk about the body of a plane or… the… Empire State for example, it’s a 3d model, but has NOTHING to do with 3d animation.

  • @jamesknauer540
    @jamesknauer540 Před 2 lety +1

    Laminar Research is not in the same ballpark as Microsoft, who can throw resources at their popular product Laminar can only dream about. FS is Microsoft's oldest intellectual property, and the 2020 version is really just getting started in terms of content.

  • @SwissLegoBuilder
    @SwissLegoBuilder Před 2 lety +19

    X-plane 12 is really good even without satellite scenery, especially the ATC and the animated jetways. A lot of people (from what I’ve seen) forget this is still not the final release and is in alpha

    • @aviay
      @aviay Před 2 lety +1

      It's competitors also have ATC capabilities though, VATSIM is multi-platform.

    • @aileronsintowind6835
      @aileronsintowind6835 Před 2 lety +2

      @@aviay msfs ATC is horrendous it’s no better than Xplane 11 ATC and not everyone wants to fly on vatsim or pilot edge. I love flying on vatsim but it’s not everyone’s cup of tea. 12 is a huge update to that

  • @aviatorb77w
    @aviatorb77w Před 2 lety +2

    I want it on steeaam!! 😂😭

  • @cadenwagner8668
    @cadenwagner8668 Před 2 lety +4

    Tbh I can’t see myself playing this sim right now with having a very nicely modded and much much improved version of msfs right now, who knows maybe I’ll get it in the future when more detailed aircraft are made for the sim

  • @florky_01
    @florky_01 Před 2 lety +1

    finally.... the xplane 12 has been fucking released
    FINALLLLYYYYYY BABYYYY MORE BEAUTIFUL SWISS001 XP12 CONTENT

  • @The-Night-Wolf
    @The-Night-Wolf Před 2 lety +3

    I bought it, wanted to see what Xplane was like. Super happy with it tbh. The local airport I ujsed to work at is spot on to the real thing, and it isn't even a big airport.

  • @FL350Aviation
    @FL350Aviation Před 2 lety +1

    the clouds looks likes MSFS medium settings clouds ! 😂

  • @superextempman
    @superextempman Před 2 lety +3

    My opinion: Xplane had a good run while Microsoft was out of the flight sim game...
    But now it's in a losing battle against the big boys
    If your into serious flight simming with an accurate flight model or virtual flight training go with Xplane
    If your a casual flight simmer who values visuals and sightseeing go with FS
    Simple as that
    If your just getting into flight simming regardless of what simulator you use we welcome you it's a fun hobby
    Five years ago I never even messed with one and now it's one of the things I enjoy

  • @olischwarz2912
    @olischwarz2912 Před 2 lety +2

    IMO, I dont see much difference, and with new add ons that are constantly getting more realistic, I think X-Plain is fighting a loosing battle.

  • @theaviatior3631
    @theaviatior3631 Před 2 lety +4

    I’m very excited about X-Plane 12, gonna try it on Sunday. Love your videos Nick!

  • @Idontcheatlolaa
    @Idontcheatlolaa Před rokem +1

    This is the best visuals to performance ratio in my opinion because in msfs 2020 the visuals are stunning but the system requirements are insane.

  • @ALX65
    @ALX65 Před 2 lety +3

    I didn't know it was already out lmao 😅 so is it like huge added improvements from x-plane 11,or it's like litteraly a entire newly made simulator??🤔 either way it looks....worse than expected tbh,If I had x-plane 11 I wouldn't buy the 12 just stick with the 11😕 like no ENORMOUS changes that I can notice. Well ok the planes definitely look better hats off to that🤗😎👍💙 the tire smoke is ugly af but just ignore that lol😐

    • @powerstone3626
      @powerstone3626 Před 2 lety +2

      It's not officially out yet. This is only early access.

    • @ALX65
      @ALX65 Před 2 lety +1

      @@powerstone3626 okok👍

  • @cruza1289
    @cruza1289 Před rokem +1

    Let’s remember. MSFS is arcade for kids ( hence why it’s out on Xbox)
    X plane is for real pilots as the physics are very accurate

  • @SaturnEdits_YT
    @SaturnEdits_YT Před 11 měsíci +3

    it is amazing but takes sooo long to download ⬇⬇

  • @Zinericks
    @Zinericks Před 2 lety +1

    Swiss whenever a new flight simulator appears: IS THIS THE NEW BEST FLIGHT SIMULATOR???

  • @theottomanempirewillriseag7265

    Its all nice and all, but there is literally no reason (for me atleast) to invest in Xplane 12 while we have MSFS. Competition is always welcome but they are far behind MSFS atm.

    • @xepic_c7901
      @xepic_c7901 Před 2 lety

      msfs graphics are way too realistic, it’s so realistic it’s not real life. Their physics are also trash. The FAA has approved X-Plane for IFR flying training and other training.

    • @maccruncie9148
      @maccruncie9148 Před 2 lety

      @@xepic_c7901 most of the people that play theese simulator about 90-95% will never fly in rl because of the cost so it doesnt really matter, but at the end of the day its your own preferance

    • @masflow09
      @masflow09 Před 2 lety

      @@xepic_c7901 and what about the xplane is FAA approved? do you know you need more than xplane right. What about the hardware? without it means nothing.

    • @xepic_c7901
      @xepic_c7901 Před 2 lety

      @@masflow09 the x-plane website also shows what hardware you need

    • @masflow09
      @masflow09 Před 2 lety

      @@xepic_c7901 do you have and logging hours for real life? i bet not

  • @Swagmaster07
    @Swagmaster07 Před 2 lety +1

    Guys xplane 12 is still in early access so things may change dont call it rushed or smt.

  • @hpharold23
    @hpharold23 Před 2 lety +5

    XP12 looks like slightly improve from XP11 with a price tag and bunch of bugs!! Performance is worse. A330 being featured has 737 FMC!!, What a load of crap! being on EA doesn't excuse it from criticism. I hope XP12 can better compete with msfs though, competition is always a good thing.
    Alot of this BS claims about flight physics is better than on XP... Wonder what qualifies? It feels on on-rail scripted for sure for on XP, Weather, wind, drag, airport elevation and air density don't matter much on XP as it feels scripted with not much simulation at all.
    Watch CFD for msfs: czcams.com/video/Ndl07_7PsWg/video.html

  • @shaanfliesplanes
    @shaanfliesplanes Před 2 lety +2

    THIS MAN called legit Portland, Oregon
    SEATTLE, WASHINGTON

  • @tsmc689
    @tsmc689 Před rokem

    The only reason that I play MSFS instead of X-Plane is because I don’t have to setup my controller for an hour before I play. MSFS is much more friendly to game controllers and beginners. Although I have bought X-Plane, I give up and play MSFS with Xbox Game Pass.

  • @rezaomar3397
    @rezaomar3397 Před 2 lety +1

    Not gonna lie msfs still holds the upper hand at this moment, however mods for xplane could make it better, but default, xplane 0 msfs 1

  • @bosnianaviation5531
    @bosnianaviation5531 Před 2 lety +1

    I'm flying now from Seoul Incheon to Kunming Wujiaba in the MSFS and watching your video.

  • @marchaine2187
    @marchaine2187 Před 2 lety

    The ending „see yall goodnight… yeeee“

  • @bump_Shiroko
    @bump_Shiroko Před 2 lety +1

    i like those new runways and trees its just B.E.A.U.T.I.F.U.L.

  • @justins.6569
    @justins.6569 Před 2 lety +2

    If I want to explore every point like in msfs I still need tons of free/payware. 0/10

  • @goldenultra
    @goldenultra Před 7 měsíci +1

    You can't do historic flights because the maps are present day. 😮

  • @hikarutsuyokatta
    @hikarutsuyokatta Před 2 lety +1

    In terms of flight physics and flight realism, and don't mind about the satellite scenery, X plane is better. MSFS 2020 plane physics is decent but not as good as xplane but msfs can do sort of things like real time settings for example satellite weather and satellite scenery

  • @hbekdanon2749
    @hbekdanon2749 Před rokem

    Xplane: we have now got volumetric clouds!
    GeoFS which has had them for over a year now:

  • @Nimporte_quoi0607
    @Nimporte_quoi0607 Před 2 lety +2

    damn bro my house would be ashes if i had x plane 12

  • @NebulaDark243
    @NebulaDark243 Před 2 lety +1

    The only reason i am sticking with msfs is because i paid the premium deluxe

  • @ZeKermet
    @ZeKermet Před 2 lety +2

    Xp11: chilling
    Msfs2020: exists
    Xp devs: competition alert panic
    Xp devs: xp12 :D

    • @masflow09
      @masflow09 Před 2 lety +1

      MSFS: not even bother by it

  • @carboy1198
    @carboy1198 Před 2 lety

    Very good - swiss
    The next day: Queen elisheth II dies
    Me : ayo what the

  • @FuryMDT
    @FuryMDT Před 2 lety +1

    I have been waiting all week for a new x-plane 12 video review!!!

  • @KoiMuffinz
    @KoiMuffinz Před 2 lety +1

    Have you tried War Thunder? And do you purposefully play the music multiple times over each other on purpose?

  • @ThatSimPilot_
    @ThatSimPilot_ Před 2 lety +1

    They added an F14. Now you can really do Top Gun

  • @superextempman
    @superextempman Před 2 lety

    If you download both MSFS and xplane 12...
    Your SSD: I'm never going to recover from this!

  • @Sheza58
    @Sheza58 Před 2 lety +2

    Another youtuber who loves the sound of their own voice

  • @NathanD7295
    @NathanD7295 Před 2 lety

    one thing I will complain about msfs that xplane has is the tires on landing, when you get a butter landing on msfs it doesn't look like it because it doesn't register it until you get lower, plus the fact that the tires always look blurry on touchdown.

  • @lehgohyt6651
    @lehgohyt6651 Před 2 lety +1

    swiss needs to reach one million subs

  • @aidenaviation
    @aidenaviation Před 2 lety +2

    I’m actually surprised I can run this at max settings with about 15 fps

  • @dominikmilien
    @dominikmilien Před 2 lety +2

    Saw the release in the morning and knew immediately that there'll be a new Swiss001 review.
    Is there a proper windshield icing animation now? Could we have a video on that and icing in XP12 in general?