so i got this gamepad today, after updating the software using their gamepad, you now can choose polling rate and yes, according to xinput test 1000hz is indeed working.
Not sure how accurate these results are but someone on reddit posted this. Min 2.890900 ms - Max 4.008000 ms - Jitter 0.075298 ms Average 3.825048 ms - Polling Rate 261.434641 Hz This was from a 1000 samples test
Fantastic review. I ordered mine the other day, and I cannot wait to get it in my hands!!! So unbelievably happy to see someone I actually subscribe to put out a video on it.
Awesome in-depth review Kevin! For PC gaming this controller offers so much value. Essentially a GameSir G7 with upgraded Hall Effect thumbsticks. Since GameSir goes this hard with a $40 controller, I'd like to see what they can do with a $70 "pro" controller. Definitely gonna cop a T4 Kaleid!
I would want a bigger version. With trigger stops, and a tall stick for the right thumbstick, 4 paddles instead of 2. And its basically what every xbox/ps/pc user has been wanting. We would easily pay 150-200 for it. Cause what we're getting for that money now, is kind of a joke.
@@noWoodsman ig, took me around 3 days of 2 hrs a day to make the switch though. It isn’t like ur switching to playing claw 🤷🏻♂️. Also found since they are higher up it gave me a better grip on my joysticks so as an added side effect my aim also improved
I think I am going to grab this bad boy. I can't wait any longer for a decent pro controller with hall effect sticks and this checks out most of my boxes. $40 for Halleffect, mechanical face buttons and rear buttons seems super nice. Although I wish the trigger stops were actually physical and not just software swtich and the dpad had mechanical switches as well but if Kevin says this is the best membrane dpad he tried im gonna trust him on this. My poor OG Razer Wolverine Tournament edition is starting to give out unfortunately after good 5 years of use. Dpad up has double-clicking issues and sticks are drifting harder than Formula Drift drivers
Same. After 3 years, my sticks are tiast on Razer Wolverine Ultimate. I like the button placement on the T4k better than the Razer ultimate, and the accuracy is nuts.
Been using the controller for 2 days and it’s the best controller I’ve ever used honestly. The Hall effect thumbsticks on this controller have to be the best thumbsticks I’ve ever used and I’ve had a lot of different controllers. Plus the back buttons are placed perfectly, way better than paddles. If your an RGB fan the lighting is great.
By any chance can you help me with activating the hair triggers and mapping the back buttons I’m using it on a pc I’ve downloaded the t4 app on my pc and the controller pops up
Love hall effect sticks, own a controller with them in it. The idea that there is no physical touching is mostly correct but there's an important part people don't tend to talk about that I'm interested in which is the internal bits of the sticks that hold the stick post in place, because that is most likely going to become the point of failure. All of the little pieces in there are molded plastic with some lube and it's already a small contributor to drift in classic potentiometer sticks. When they get used they wear down both by shedding bits of plastic and becoming misshaped, and the lube degrades causing them to have a harder time returning back to center. Even with hall effect sticks, if the sticks themselves don't return back to dead center over time your dead zones will still most likely need adjusting so I'm a little weary of saying they will never get drift
Thank you. Sometimes you gotta think they all get paid to do these Reviews because of course these Hall Effect sticks can and will develope drift because their internal moving parts are gonna degrade with use. It maybe last a whole damn time longer but in the end materiel degradation will still get em.
While I was looking for a PS5 Pro/Edge-like controller with 1000hz/sub-1ms latency, good HE sticks, mechanical buttons and all PS5 features... this is the absolute best controller until companies actually make this unicorn controller. T4K has: Xbox/PC compatibility, sub-1ms 1000hz new polling rate with new update, good HE sticks, great mechanical buttons and triggers, gyro, decent software, and USB-C. AND rear buttons. AND good d-pad. Hope this helps anyone else searching for decent controller!
I was absolutely blown away by the T4 Kaleid. I can't believe just how many home runs GameSir hit with this controller. Hoping for a wireless version to come out in the near future- if it does I'll buy four!
I’m hoping Gamesir will release a: 4 rear buttons, mechanical face buttons, Hall effect stick, trigger stop controller for Xbox soon. That would be a very enticing and perfect combo for me
ordered the controller yesterday and its arriving sunday been looking for reviews and was thinking damn i wish gamer heaven would review it and lo and behold you did not dissapoint. great review as always thank you controller captain
I bought this controller a while back and I've been absolutely enjoying it so far. The software, as of this comment's posting date, seems to have been updated too.. you can set the polling rate on it now, currently have mine set to 1000hz (which is the max) and reads around 930hz on testing. Have not experienced any degradation of performance so far.. very cool.
I bought this last month and instantly fell in love with it. I had an issue with the B button not pushing down when pressed at a certain angle from the right side, but it got fixed after a few days. It did develop a small stick drift after 2 weeks on non stop Apex Legends, but I only experience it when using no deadzone on linear settings (in game). I can't believe the face buttons are my favorite thing about this thing. So satisfying to press
So far BEST $38 I've spent even though I haven't even put the thing through it's paces. Just from a feel and aesthetic POV along with it being the first hall effects controller I've ever bought, it could have cost more and I wouldn't complain. It's already given me inspiration for what my ideal controller would be if I could design one. Also I'm not into tinkering with controller settings as I'm just the plug and play type but thanks for this detailed video, tossed the manual and watched this instead. 👍👍
For PC, this is the best controller out there. It will even be better once they add 2 more paddles and trigger stops but even without it, it's better than all the MS elite 2, scuffs, Wolverines and so on.
Pumping out the reviews! Love it. Waiting for this one to come to my door, this is kind of the controller I've been looking for (RGB, Hall effect, great rear button placement, etc.) Between this, DSedge, powerA's redemption arch, it's been a year for GamePads.
This controller is worth it. Mine arrived a few weeks ago and I've been loving how it feels. The clicky face buttons, the smooth thumbsticks, the rear buttons sitting snugly where it's easy for even my tiny babbi fingers to reach. Totally worth the 1700PHP price. I do hope they release a wireless/bluetooth version someday. Kinda like the Gamesir G4 Pro. Oh, and for anyone who just bought this controller, the Gamesir T4K App in the Microsoft Store is fixed now and it's in the latest version. The app itself will ask you to do the calibration.
I only got the controller a few weeks ago so I really can't tell yet if the bumpers wear down easily. I'll come back to you in a few years for that lol. Also do correct me if I'm wrong, but the "Hall Effect" only applies to the thumbstick/joysticks not to the Bumpers. The Bumpers do feel solid and click-y and quite easy to press. Love the texture on it too. I've only been using budget controllers my whole life so the T4 DJ Kaleid is a joy to use.
No doubt best controller for price point and then some. Almost wonder if you can mod the roller somehow to make the triggers short, at 40$ would feel safe experimenting. Definitely a buy. 10/10 review.
I just added hair triggers to mine since I mainly play fps games. The disasembling isn't that bad after you figure it out. These triggers feel great. I'm super picky with my products and research and I love this controller so far.
In my feedback to Gamesir I requested 4 back buttons, premium materials, swapabale thumb sticks, trigger stops, more color options and platform capabilities for less than 100 bucks. If they did that they could beat out even the big players in Pro controllers.
I have this controller, bought it on recommendation of our Controller Captain. I just started using it this week, playing Apex Legends, and I am happy. This is awesome with the Hall Effect. The clicky-clickity-click buttons, in general a pleasure to pick up and use. The looks...just sitting there un-used, it has a pleasant look to it with the lighting, and see-through body. I will re-buy this, because it's worth to have one or more for spare and/or travel. So satisfied with this.
@@xXTheUknownClassXx you have make sure it is in x input mode, X + home, the home will be green. You can check what is selected by holding down the mode button to the right of the D-pad. The default is a red color, which I believe is for the Switch. The manual will not tell you, but you actually have to hold X + home and the controller will briefly turn off ann and then back on, it will then be in Xinput, green color, the RGBs will flash green as well. Hope this helps
@@xXTheUknownClassXx ohh, I forget to add if when you hold the X + Home and it shuts off and does not come back on, just press the home button and it should come back on in that Xinput mode.
This review could use an update now since the T4K now supports Native 1000hz polling rate without 3rd party software. As of right now this controller is firmly in the S tier category IMO and I feel more people should be aware of it.
Do you need to have the software running in order to have the 1000HZ polling rate? Or does it save to the controller once it’s set through the software?
@JoeRivera411 it saves it to the controller from what I can tell. I did the polling rate test afterward without the program running and it still was giving me 1ms(1000hz).
PlayVital's cap set shown here fits perfectly but, on the left stick, by touching the shell that is not recessed enough, it creates a jump like the ugly bump of a dying potentiometer, between high left and high position. It can become unnoticeable by twisting the cap around so its skirt gets thinner enough, but it can come back with time. Solution I found was adding one of these thin silicon ring made to protect analog's axe. It works perfectly (no calibration needed, 100% move is still detected), and adds a good soft feeling when bouncing the analog against gamepad's shell, and makes it almost silent when playing lightly and way more discrete and pleasant when playing hard. These suckers are way too overpriced for what they are, but completely solved the issue with PlayVital's set, protect against ware, and make the overall experience way better.
Just ordered one of these for my PC. My Xbox Series controller started developing drift last month and even my wife noticed it. Your review definitely helped me decide. Really no need to do wireless on my gaming PC and the Hall effect seems nice. Hopefully it turns out to be $35 well spent.
great vid like always bro! I had a Gamesir g3 with the included phone clip that was one of the most reliable gamepads I ever owned. And it was incredibly simple to take apart and clean. I don't even think I paid 30 dollars for it too. I've moved on since then because I drove that think until the tires came off lol.
it looks like their newest software might allow for 1000hz overclocking, just gotta update the firmware! for that vertical short form video you mentioned in here ;)
You should try to lower the thumbstick sensitivity to like 99 then back to 100 or keep at 99. This used to force circularity to almost 0% error on the G7, might work with this one as well.
I feel like all these kind of controllers could take the whole PC peripherals market if only they put digital triggers or usable trigger stops, that’s the only thing they are missing… this controller is the same case as the 8bitdo ultimate dock version. Almost perfect.
I’ve bought several of these controllers. I play apex legends with 0 dead zone so the stick consistency matters a lot. I’ve noticed that each controller I’ve bought has a bit of a difference in stick tension and a tiny amount of drift, but found one that felt really good. Out of the box, It’s probably my favorite controller I’ve used overall compared to several of the other budget options out there including most of the Power A controllers. ALSO… if your buttons start pressing multiple times when you’re trying to only press it once, double press the “m” button on the bottom of the controller and it fixes it.
Yup, double pressing the M disables the turbo mode. 😉 Oh and Gamer Heaven explained that the Hall Effect sticks will have a slight "stick wiggle" out of the box because they only have a spring that's holding it at center position.
Saw a short form video about this, searched for a review and ended up here. Crazy in depth review, and I was glad to see you playing COD since that’s what I’ll be playing. GG’s!
Ive been following you since ive came across your page and I go to your channel as soon as I am interested in something new and love that you are always ahead of me. Keep up the good work and I cant wait to see the next video
Hey man! I love your reviews they're absolutely great. Altho there is one detail that's never covered and its thumbstick tension. Like the ps controllers have more tension compared to xbox ones. Thank you for all the great videos so far!
GH - apparently a software update just came out for the controller and app that allows you to overclock to 1000 through the app. Would love for you to confirm that if possible? Love your content man. Keep up the great work
pretty sure its confirmed- i saw a screenshot of the 1000hz in the software but haven't seen actual verification of the latency after updating the polling rate
@@supernice_auto lmao bro same I just ordered one now for 48 Canadian. I have a scuf impact fps and play apex legends on 4-3 linear no deadzone and stick drift is getting wild so I’ll try it out tonight when it arrives
This might be the one for me. I've been off gaming for almost a year now, and my friends have hopped on Warzone II and I'd like to join them. That was, until I turned my PS5 controller on and COMPLETELY FORGOT my left thumbstick drifts worse than Tokyo. I was looking at a few controllers just to hop back in quickly without breaking the bank for the Dualsense Edge with no Hall Effects. I was this close to buying the KingKong Pro 2 until this video popped up right after. I'm gonna miss DS4 Windows but times change and I must move on. 😅😅
Definitely going to have to get one at some point Edit: finally remembered to come edit this comment. Picked this up and I'm in love with it. Was a bit finnicky to initially calibrate (more so likely due to my insanely bad luck), but after it was all set up it was heaven. Feels great, back buttons are nice, knowing it's got that reliability is the nice cherry on top. Would absolutely recommend.
Gamesir making cheap good stuff, the G7 to me had triggers I felt were to tall but the extra rumble motors in them was interesting for some games. This looks like it but with better sticks, sounds great at the price.
I've bought it after watching your review, and I can say it's an excellent controller, at least in XInput mode. No problems there. I'm having trouble in Nintendo Switch Pro mode on PC, more especifically on vibration. For some reason the controller doesn't seem to stop vibrating once it receives a signal. It only stops when I press the home button. It will do keep doing that again after it receives a vibration signal again. Right now I'm on the lastest T4K App running latest firmware. XInput mode works fine, Nintendo Switch Pro has this problem, DInput is recognized as a PS4 controller for some reason, but doesn't have vibration, neither gyroscope function.
Just ordered one for my second PC since my nieces and nephews don't like using a mouse and keyboard. I've also got the Gamesir X2pro for my phone and I consider it a fantastic controller despite being a clip on phone controller. Hall effects and the very nice mechanical buttons like the x2 is more than enough for me for only $40.
I think this is my new favorite controller. Took the g7s place. Sucks that the headphones not working with xinput though.... Maybe they can fix this with an update? Regardless it's a win. And win review as always GH.
My thoughts exactly. As a switch owner I am not interested in wired controllers but when they make wireless one I will buy it the same day I hear about it.
I hate that I basically missed out on this controller. I used a gamesir T4 pro and G4 pro controllers, loved both (T4 got horrible stick drift so had to replace it) Known about gulikit's king Kong 2 pro for a while and recently caved in and bought it. A couple weeks later after I got it I learned gamesir released the Kaleid and I was quite miffed. I like the look of the Kaleid, hall effect joysticks are a godsend, and the back buttons are a huge benefit over the king Kong 2 pro. I don't play enough games with controller to validate buying a new one, tho I might cave in and buy it at some point as it's not thaaaat expansive. An absolute steal compared to the "pro" controllers from major companies.
SAme here, I don't play nowhere near enough to buy a brand new PS5 controller (in my case, mines has the world's worst stick drift case ever I swear) and wanted something to hop back into Warzone II with. Almost bought the KingKong Pro 2 last night but I hesitated and came across this video after watching his review for the King Kong Pro 2. Almost like divine intervention lol.
Greetings Gamer Heaven, a HUGE thank you for your videos. I hope Gamesir will make a wireless version of T4 Kaleid. May I make a suggestion for a future video? The BEITONG Zeus 2 elite controller. This gamepad has a few interesting technologies, like rumbling LT and RT buttons, a lot of additional buttons, etc. And also good materials and complectation. I would love to see your input and opinion on it!
@@pipthechaos yes. In my opinion, Beitong is underestimated company on the west market. And Zeus 2 can provide few features which nobody does. Asura 2 Pro not bad gamepad for the price. I bought it like a gift to a friend.
@@pipthechaos what are you on about '' hall triggers '' lol. It just has trigger deadzones. It's nothing new and hasn't get hall effect sensors for the thumbsticks so its complete garbage.
No one looking at a controller when playing so why anyone care about this. But triggers on these controllers is what really trigger me. Why they not looking at awesome pro controller triggers.
19:50 the max value of stick is strangely NOT set to the outer edge at the max percentage you set, but simply a CUT- OFF, so the right of the range is not there, so if you set it to 50%, the maximum you can ever go is capped at 50 and made the stick useless, I tested with gamepad tester and in game (can't even sprint if I set it somewhat low, since it's capped) , I don't think the designer of this software play with controller enough to know what controller player needs
Are you going to review the GameSir G7 SE with hall analog sticks for Xbox? Or are the Xbox updated G7 SE just like the one on this video, but for Xbox? Thanks. Btw, you are the only controller reviewer that I found that let us hear the sound of the buttons really close, which is what we are looking for in a controller review.
it does have 3 options 250 500 and 1000 on the software its an app you install from edge. he did advise not to download it from microsoft store because it is outdated. He made a video where he did test the polling rate and it is 0.9ms min 1000hz when he set it to 1000. The reading you saw is on default wich is 250hz.
I've been a lifelong pc gamer since the mid 1980's though I had a PS2 and an Xbox 360 eons ago,. After having wrist and thumb issues, I decided to attempt to use my ancient Logitech f310 and see if I could still play COD MWII with the guys...It's possible!! However, my lady's son said "Dude, try my PS4 controller" I was like...WOW!! Her other son said "Try my xbox elite version 1 controller" I was like... WOW! but not AS wowwed as I was with the PS4 controller though with a little tuning it was great also...SO... Seems I have to spend $200+ to get a decent controller with at least 2 back buttons! Well shit! I have jacked up wrists and cannot use the f310.. it's just TOO difficult to play a shooter with so.... I found YOUR channel! Over the last few days I've watched I don't know how many reviews on sub $100 controllers. Then I saved a bunch on my amazon acct to look over reviews and check quality, features etc... THIS video showed me this controller which I could not find on Amazon without actually looking for this exact model.. (I used your link) Seems this $40 controller has everything I want.. minus the lighting but I can turn that off.. This controller, some Kontrol Freaks thumb stick risers and other odds and ends are getting ordered. Thanks Dude! Now I can ruin my wrists OR thumbs depending upon whichever hurt worse from day to day! You certainly earned a Subscriber aaaaand I'll keep checking out your videos! Thanks again! ~51yo dude with busted up hands/wrists... =)
Thank you for the video this looks like a must buy! I have been searching for a wired hall effect controller with gyro and at least 2 back paddles that works on windows. I previously used Dualsense with the Extremerate custom 4 paddle kits. Did that twice, both controllers showed stick drift within a few weeks. Seemed a massive waste or pot luck. This controller however, looks to have everything i would like. I just received the 8bitdo bluetooth ultimate but it ONLY uses gyro when in bluetooth mode. If you were trying to find a back paddled/gyro/hall effect/wired/Not xinput etc.. would this be the only option? Appreciate any advice thank you! Update: T4K does do all the above. Sticks dont seem as firm as the 8bitdo and the config app is terrible but the controller it self is brilliant.
I don't recommend this controller if you plan on keeping it for very long as they use 1mm thick plastic for the triggers and it literally broke after dropping it 2.5 feet onto thick carpet and when I put it in the box for a few months because it was broken it didn't even turn on so I can't say this is a quality controller, just a cheap option that will last about a year.
I kinda see why they put the face buttons in stock colors cuz they help learn the layout for the straight noobs and I really like how the motherboard whatever you call it looks really nice and has gold accents since you will look at it all the time it's a 10/10 on looks for me
i just bought this little gem today, and it was awesome, after update it to the last firmware, i noticed we have DS4 mode now (it's no in manual, and its not in the box as well), you can go with Home+B (purple LED) and since it's DS4, it's detected in Apple device (ipad on my case) 👌 and if you play games on steam and want to use that 3.5mm jack, just go with DS4 mode then, how nice is that 😊
i'm honestly so baffled that a company hasn't built a controller with all of the buttons on the back where only the sticks are on the front. it would be easier to design and build and it would be more comfortable to hold as well.
So I bought mine is there a trick to getting it to connect to the app? it connects to my pc fine I can use it and its fine but cant do anything in the software? it just blinks over and over and says your controller isnt connected please check, but if I click out of the app I can play and its just fine?
The 3.5 mm jack being useless while plugged to PC is def makes me scratch my head. But considering the fact that controllers NORMALLY have a pretty crappy on board audio DAC, that's not really an issue. Creative sounds G6 or GC7 is where it's at.
You *can* have stick drift even with hall effect stick modules. The reason for this is that in many modules the inner spring mechanism wears out and the stick is no longer positioned 100% in the middle when you let go of it. I've seen that with many PowerA controllers. The potentiometers are perfectly fine, but the stick itself is worn out. And here you can only work with a larger dead zone. In this respect, I doubt that Hall Effect sensors are really the future. They are mechanically not as vulnerable, but also less precise and more expensive.
No sh*t, but hall effect thumbsticks will last WAYYY longer than normal thumbstick, and therefor it will be the future for people that aren't stupid enough to fall for the big brands.
@@GamerHeavenOfficial I know ;) I'm only saying this because you mainly test brand new controllers. However, I get a lot of controllers for repairs and as a result I often see the failures caused by people mishandling their sticks. And that's where hall sensors don't help. And I say that because in most cases (>70%) the springs in the module are worn out and the potentiometers are still perfectly fine. Of course, bad potentiometers can cause stick drift or stick flicker. But that is less often the case than you might think. This mostly occurs with PS5 controllers. With the original Xbox it is more the spring, as well as with e.g. PowerA with the FJM10K modules. Again: This was not a criticism of you or your video, but information for all those who believe that modules with hall effect sensors are indestructible. Incidentally, what I like about this controller is that you can use the software to change the dead zone afterwards and save it in the controller. That's very helpful! Too bad you can't use it on Xbox.
The fact that is looks like an Xbox controller, yet doesn't work with Xbox, is kinda crazy, hope some controllers with no stick drift come to Xbox soon
I got this controller from the recent prime day and i got to say it is worth it. simple yet elegant. only thing stopping it from being perfect would be trigger stops then it would be better then the elite series 2 (in my opinion)
No lie, you should rereview this controller compared to the other “newer” ones as this one kicks all of their asses lol Great performing controller for the price, especially once you set it to 1000hz in the gamesir app.
Nice review, needed a stick-drift resistant controller for the new FIFA I'm getting into. My current is a Power A Spectra (I was broke) and it's drift is preventing me to be as precise as I could be on the ball. And I know I'm about to grind hours into it so I need it to last lol
My left stick for the T4k was slightly buggy out of the box, got waaay worse later. Bought a new one, returning the old one when I get home. In the video, he says that a good resting value for Hall Effect is 0.00392 and a good resting value for Potentiometer is 0.00002 He got 0.00392 with his T4K, I got 0.00002 on my T4K Does my T4k not have hall effect sensors?!?! either way, left stick brokey so, new one hopefully be fine, but the resting value thing ^ has me confused
Needs 4 back buttons/paddles, I don't want to take my thumbs off the sticks to press face buttons in competitive games. Until someone makes a 4 button controller with hall sticks, I'm just going to stick with alps in the Fusion Pro 3.
I got this controller and it won’t play any audio through the headphone jack on the bottom and my computer won’t recognize it in the audio settings. Does anyone have a fix or know what’s wrong?
so i got this gamepad today, after updating the software using their gamepad, you now can choose polling rate and yes, according to xinput test 1000hz is indeed working.
Not sure how accurate these results are but someone on reddit posted this.
Min 2.890900 ms - Max 4.008000 ms - Jitter 0.075298 ms Average 3.825048 ms - Polling Rate 261.434641 Hz
This was from a 1000 samples test
What subreddit you get this from?
@@caniseeyourbody r/controller. I just googled gamesir t4 kaleid polling rate.
Fantastic review. I ordered mine the other day, and I cannot wait to get it in my hands!!! So unbelievably happy to see someone I actually subscribe to put out a video on it.
That makes me happy
what is ur opinion? great deal or what
THIS...
This is one of the best reviews I have ever seen of anything! GGs my man.
Awesome in-depth review Kevin! For PC gaming this controller offers so much value. Essentially a GameSir G7 with upgraded Hall Effect thumbsticks. Since GameSir goes this hard with a $40 controller, I'd like to see what they can do with a $70 "pro" controller. Definitely gonna cop a T4 Kaleid!
I would want a bigger version. With trigger stops, and a tall stick for the right thumbstick, 4 paddles instead of 2. And its basically what every xbox/ps/pc user has been wanting. We would easily pay 150-200 for it. Cause what we're getting for that money now, is kind of a joke.
@@HeartInLight trigger stoppers are the best and smart bumpers and digital buttons
@@HeartInLight why do people want trigger stops so bad? Why don’t people just flip the bumper and trigger binds for shooters?
@@Lurcii because people are used to a certain playstyle, it's not that hard to understand.
@@noWoodsman ig, took me around 3 days of 2 hrs a day to make the switch though. It isn’t like ur switching to playing claw 🤷🏻♂️. Also found since they are higher up it gave me a better grip on my joysticks so as an added side effect my aim also improved
I think I am going to grab this bad boy. I can't wait any longer for a decent pro controller with hall effect sticks and this checks out most of my boxes. $40 for Halleffect, mechanical face buttons and rear buttons seems super nice. Although I wish the trigger stops were actually physical and not just software swtich and the dpad had mechanical switches as well but if Kevin says this is the best membrane dpad he tried im gonna trust him on this. My poor OG Razer Wolverine Tournament edition is starting to give out unfortunately after good 5 years of use. Dpad up has double-clicking issues and sticks are drifting harder than Formula Drift drivers
Same. After 3 years, my sticks are tiast on Razer Wolverine Ultimate. I like the button placement on the T4k better than the Razer ultimate, and the accuracy is nuts.
And now you can change the pulling rate to 1000hz
has the controller held up well?
This controller is incredible value, very impressive! Just need console versions and mouse click triggers, and I'd snatch one up.
Been using the controller for 2 days and it’s the best controller I’ve ever used honestly. The Hall effect thumbsticks on this controller have to be the best thumbsticks I’ve ever used and I’ve had a lot of different controllers. Plus the back buttons are placed perfectly, way better than paddles. If your an RGB fan the lighting is great.
By any chance can you help me with activating the hair triggers and mapping the back buttons I’m using it on a pc I’ve downloaded the t4 app on my pc and the controller pops up
@@komanij867 I downloaded the app from their website. Idk how to explain it because it’s so self explanatory.
Hello, how is it holding up after 6 months now?
Love hall effect sticks, own a controller with them in it. The idea that there is no physical touching is mostly correct but there's an important part people don't tend to talk about that I'm interested in which is the internal bits of the sticks that hold the stick post in place, because that is most likely going to become the point of failure. All of the little pieces in there are molded plastic with some lube and it's already a small contributor to drift in classic potentiometer sticks. When they get used they wear down both by shedding bits of plastic and becoming misshaped, and the lube degrades causing them to have a harder time returning back to center. Even with hall effect sticks, if the sticks themselves don't return back to dead center over time your dead zones will still most likely need adjusting so I'm a little weary of saying they will never get drift
Thank you. Sometimes you gotta think they all get paid to do these Reviews because of course these Hall Effect sticks can and will develope drift because their internal moving parts are gonna degrade with use. It maybe last a whole damn time longer but in the end materiel degradation will still get em.
@@skylinesenpai5554fuck it man ill take what i can get until these mfs make a stick that can last forever
@@skylinesenpai5554the next step is floating the sticks themselves with magnets so there truly is no contact of any kind
I am thankful for this review. I think this is the wired controller i need for my PC.
While I was looking for a PS5 Pro/Edge-like controller with 1000hz/sub-1ms latency, good HE sticks, mechanical buttons and all PS5 features... this is the absolute best controller until companies actually make this unicorn controller.
T4K has: Xbox/PC compatibility, sub-1ms 1000hz new polling rate with new update, good HE sticks, great mechanical buttons and triggers, gyro, decent software, and USB-C. AND rear buttons. AND good d-pad.
Hope this helps anyone else searching for decent controller!
Before buying any controller, I always watch GamerHeavan before deciding my pick. Right now the Razer Raiju is killer. Old school which is what I need
I wish this controller had 4 rear buttons!! But I still ordered one using your link in the description! 💪
Same here , and nice I hope you like it
I was absolutely blown away by the T4 Kaleid. I can't believe just how many home runs GameSir hit with this controller. Hoping for a wireless version to come out in the near future- if it does I'll buy four!
MAN!!!!!! This controller is perfect. It's got a great value for its price and looks so cool! I just can't wait to own it😍
If it had 2 more buttons on the back, Would be the best budget controller on the market. I'm still gonna pick it up and test it myself.
I’m hoping Gamesir will release a: 4 rear buttons, mechanical face buttons, Hall effect stick, trigger stop controller for Xbox soon. That would be a very enticing and perfect combo for me
Yeah they need a flagship controller. Just. A100 dollar controller from gamesir will beat any controller out their
ordered the controller yesterday and its arriving sunday been looking for reviews and was thinking damn i wish gamer heaven would review it and lo and behold you did not dissapoint. great review as always thank you controller captain
Here I am 🫡
@@GamerHeavenOfficial here when we need you most. 🫡
I bought this controller a while back and I've been absolutely enjoying it so far. The software, as of this comment's posting date, seems to have been updated too.. you can set the polling rate on it now, currently have mine set to 1000hz (which is the max) and reads around 930hz on testing.
Have not experienced any degradation of performance so far.. very cool.
930ms? 1000ms is a second.
@@Empty12345 whoops, i meant to put 930hz there, not ms. edited
if you set the polling rate will it work for my ps5?
I bought this last month and instantly fell in love with it. I had an issue with the B button not pushing down when pressed at a certain angle from the right side, but it got fixed after a few days. It did develop a small stick drift after 2 weeks on non stop Apex Legends, but I only experience it when using no deadzone on linear settings (in game). I can't believe the face buttons are my favorite thing about this thing. So satisfying to press
So far BEST $38 I've spent even though I haven't even put the thing through it's paces. Just from a feel and aesthetic POV along with it being the first hall effects controller I've ever bought, it could have cost more and I wouldn't complain. It's already given me inspiration for what my ideal controller would be if I could design one. Also I'm not into tinkering with controller settings as I'm just the plug and play type but thanks for this detailed video, tossed the manual and watched this instead. 👍👍
For PC, this is the best controller out there. It will even be better once they add 2 more paddles and trigger stops but even without it, it's better than all the MS elite 2, scuffs, Wolverines and so on.
Pumping out the reviews! Love it. Waiting for this one to come to my door, this is kind of the controller I've been looking for (RGB, Hall effect, great rear button placement, etc.) Between this, DSedge, powerA's redemption arch, it's been a year for GamePads.
This controller is worth it. Mine arrived a few weeks ago and I've been loving how it feels. The clicky face buttons, the smooth thumbsticks, the rear buttons sitting snugly where it's easy for even my tiny babbi fingers to reach. Totally worth the 1700PHP price. I do hope they release a wireless/bluetooth version someday. Kinda like the Gamesir G4 Pro.
Oh, and for anyone who just bought this controller, the Gamesir T4K App in the Microsoft Store is fixed now and it's in the latest version. The app itself will ask you to do the calibration.
Wait you gotta do Calibrations what for new to this sorry😅
And what are your thoughts on the Bumpers do they wear down easily or are they Hall Sensors?
I only got the controller a few weeks ago so I really can't tell yet if the bumpers wear down easily. I'll come back to you in a few years for that lol.
Also do correct me if I'm wrong, but the "Hall Effect" only applies to the thumbstick/joysticks not to the Bumpers. The Bumpers do feel solid and click-y and quite easy to press. Love the texture on it too. I've only been using budget controllers my whole life so the T4 DJ Kaleid is a joy to use.
No doubt best controller for price point and then some. Almost wonder if you can mod the roller somehow to make the triggers short, at 40$ would feel safe experimenting. Definitely a buy. 10/10 review.
Have you tried modding it?
I just added hair triggers to mine since I mainly play fps games. The disasembling isn't that bad after you figure it out. These triggers feel great. I'm super picky with my products and research and I love this controller so far.
@@evandelph8052 how did you add hair triggers? That’s sweet
In my feedback to Gamesir I requested 4 back buttons, premium materials, swapabale thumb sticks, trigger stops, more color options and platform capabilities for less than 100 bucks. If they did that they could beat out even the big players in Pro controllers.
I have this controller, bought it on recommendation of our Controller Captain. I just started using it this week, playing Apex Legends, and I am happy. This is awesome with the Hall Effect. The clicky-clickity-click buttons, in general a pleasure to pick up and use. The looks...just sitting there un-used, it has a pleasant look to it with the lighting, and see-through body.
I will re-buy this, because it's worth to have one or more for spare and/or travel.
So satisfied with this.
This would be everything I want, if it had trigger stops... I'm probably going to 3d print some custom trigger stops for this controller.
Oooo that would be sick
Just in case someone doesn't know, I have this controller with my Xbox series x and it works perfectly with the brook XB wingman adapter.
@@xXTheUknownClassXx you have make sure it is in x input mode, X + home, the home will be green. You can check what is selected by holding down the mode button to the right of the D-pad. The default is a red color, which I believe is for the Switch. The manual will not tell you, but you actually have to hold X + home and the controller will briefly turn off ann and then back on, it will then be in Xinput, green color, the RGBs will flash green as well.
Hope this helps
@@xXTheUknownClassXx ohh, I forget to add if when you hold the X + Home and it shuts off and does not come back on, just press the home button and it should come back on in that Xinput mode.
Yo I just got it to work man thank you @tcrviper! UnknownClass I can confirm it works with the XB2 Wingman!
@@xXTheUknownClassXx cool, glad it work for you 🙂👍
Wish we'd get some more wireless options. 😮💨
Check out his review for the 8BitDo USB Wireless adapter
How about the 8bitdo Ultimate C 2.4G that came out today.
@@CodeVenomSnakes wow, i didnt evne know
@@CodeVenomSnakes input delay is too big for competitive games.
too heavy and radiation to the hands tho
Just ordered it, thanks for the review
This review could use an update now since the T4K now supports Native 1000hz polling rate without 3rd party software. As of right now this controller is firmly in the S tier category IMO and I feel more people should be aware of it.
so this or dualsense on pc
@reflexx8332 this without a doubt
Do you need to have the software running in order to have the 1000HZ polling rate? Or does it save to the controller once it’s set through the software?
@JoeRivera411 it saves it to the controller from what I can tell. I did the polling rate test afterward without the program running and it still was giving me 1ms(1000hz).
@@jayireland561 Thank you for replying, this is good to know.
PlayVital's cap set shown here fits perfectly but, on the left stick, by touching the shell that is not recessed enough, it creates a jump like the ugly bump of a dying potentiometer, between high left and high position.
It can become unnoticeable by twisting the cap around so its skirt gets thinner enough, but it can come back with time. Solution I found was adding one of these thin silicon ring made to protect analog's axe. It works perfectly (no calibration needed, 100% move is still detected), and adds a good soft feeling when bouncing the analog against gamepad's shell, and makes it almost silent when playing lightly and way more discrete and pleasant when playing hard.
These suckers are way too overpriced for what they are, but completely solved the issue with PlayVital's set, protect against ware, and make the overall experience way better.
Just ordered one of these for my PC. My Xbox Series controller started developing drift last month and even my wife noticed it. Your review definitely helped me decide. Really no need to do wireless on my gaming PC and the Hall effect seems nice. Hopefully it turns out to be $35 well spent.
And? Still happy?
@@Extrasolar84 the thing is fantastic. No complaints. I might just get some control freaks or taller sticks down the line to give that a try.
@@NekBodesh Well I also got one and my games don't recognize the controller sadly.
@@Extrasolar84 damn, that sucks. I haven’t had any compatibility issues. Do you have it on the correct mode?
great vid like always bro! I had a Gamesir g3 with the included phone clip that was one of the most reliable gamepads I ever owned. And it was incredibly simple to take apart and clean. I don't even think I paid 30 dollars for it too. I've moved on since then because I drove that think until the tires came off lol.
it looks like their newest software might allow for 1000hz overclocking, just gotta update the firmware! for that vertical short form video you mentioned in here ;)
8000hz or bust
You should try to lower the thumbstick sensitivity to like 99 then back to 100 or keep at 99. This used to force circularity to almost 0% error on the G7, might work with this one as well.
Thanks for mentioning, when mine arrives I update if it works.
@@v4mp1el Any update on how this one went? Mine is coming in a few days and I am interested
@@Vanilla_Joany update?
I did it with my T4 Kaleid and I can confirm I had 0.7 circularity error on both thumbsticks.
@@evandelph8052was that in raw mode
for this controller you can select the "report rate" in the gamesir t4k program on pc. can select 250hz 500hz or 1000hz.
I feel like all these kind of controllers could take the whole PC peripherals market if only they put digital triggers or usable trigger stops, that’s the only thing they are missing… this controller is the same case as the 8bitdo ultimate dock version. Almost perfect.
Trigger stops are basically useless at this point
I'd take this over the 8bit anyday.
8bit doesn't have mouse click abxy or 1000hz.
The controller can run @1000hz after the latest update. Did Xinput tests, and it runs around 0.98ms latency.
Ew
@@rust2156?
I’ve bought several of these controllers. I play apex legends with 0 dead zone so the stick consistency matters a lot. I’ve noticed that each controller I’ve bought has a bit of a difference in stick tension and a tiny amount of drift, but found one that felt really good. Out of the box, It’s probably my favorite controller I’ve used overall compared to several of the other budget options out there including most of the Power A controllers. ALSO… if your buttons start pressing multiple times when you’re trying to only press it once, double press the “m” button on the bottom of the controller and it fixes it.
Yup, double pressing the M disables the turbo mode. 😉
Oh and Gamer Heaven explained that the Hall Effect sticks will have a slight "stick wiggle" out of the box because they only have a spring that's holding it at center position.
Also curious about this ^ @cyberkun96
Ordered mine today, can't wait to receive it!
Saw a short form video about this, searched for a review and ended up here. Crazy in depth review, and I was glad to see you playing COD since that’s what I’ll be playing. GG’s!
Ive been following you since ive came across your page and I go to your channel as soon as I am interested in something new and love that you are always ahead of me. Keep up the good work and I cant wait to see the next video
Thanks man, I appreciate that. I’ll keep it up
Hey man! I love your reviews they're absolutely great. Altho there is one detail that's never covered and its thumbstick tension. Like the ps controllers have more tension compared to xbox ones. Thank you for all the great videos so far!
GH - apparently a software update just came out for the controller and app that allows you to overclock to 1000 through the app. Would love for you to confirm that if possible? Love your content man. Keep up the great work
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pretty sure its confirmed- i saw a screenshot of the 1000hz in the software but haven't seen actual verification of the latency after updating the polling rate
@@supernice_auto this is a game changer - hoping GH will confirm or something else will come on this but definitely going to order one soon to test
@@MuteHog i ordered one tonight because for $38 why the f not lol
@@supernice_auto lmao bro same I just ordered one now for 48 Canadian. I have a scuf impact fps and play apex legends on 4-3 linear no deadzone and stick drift is getting wild so I’ll try it out tonight when it arrives
This might be the one for me. I've been off gaming for almost a year now, and my friends have hopped on Warzone II and I'd like to join them. That was, until I turned my PS5 controller on and COMPLETELY FORGOT my left thumbstick drifts worse than Tokyo. I was looking at a few controllers just to hop back in quickly without breaking the bank for the Dualsense Edge with no Hall Effects. I was this close to buying the KingKong Pro 2 until this video popped up right after. I'm gonna miss DS4 Windows but times change and I must move on. 😅😅
had mine for about a week and i love it so much Im thinking about doing a first impressions video on it later this week
I liked the GameSir 7 a lot but it was just too small. Is this one any larger in the hands? Closer to the Xbox X/S controllers?
So glad I bought this.
Glad to hear that Nick
Dude..awesome review
Glad you liked it
Definitely going to have to get one at some point
Edit: finally remembered to come edit this comment. Picked this up and I'm in love with it. Was a bit finnicky to initially calibrate (more so likely due to my insanely bad luck), but after it was all set up it was heaven. Feels great, back buttons are nice, knowing it's got that reliability is the nice cherry on top. Would absolutely recommend.
How is it? Is it still holding up and what games do you play?
Gamesir making cheap good stuff, the G7 to me had triggers I felt were to tall but the extra rumble motors in them was interesting for some games. This looks like it but with better sticks, sounds great at the price.
Great Video just orderd today. Also nice Canik I have the same one it was my first
Another great video
Thank you
Best budget game controller 😊
I've bought it after watching your review, and I can say it's an excellent controller, at least in XInput mode. No problems there. I'm having trouble in Nintendo Switch Pro mode on PC, more especifically on vibration. For some reason the controller doesn't seem to stop vibrating once it receives a signal. It only stops when I press the home button. It will do keep doing that again after it receives a vibration signal again. Right now I'm on the lastest T4K App running latest firmware. XInput mode works fine, Nintendo Switch Pro has this problem, DInput is recognized as a PS4 controller for some reason, but doesn't have vibration, neither gyroscope function.
Just ordered one for my second PC since my nieces and nephews don't like using a mouse and keyboard.
I've also got the Gamesir X2pro for my phone and I consider it a fantastic controller despite being a clip on phone controller.
Hall effects and the very nice mechanical buttons like the x2 is more than enough for me for only $40.
NICE. I've been wanting to find a decent looking controller with all mech/hall switches. I'm def gonna treat myself to this for my birthday xD
cant wait for this I ordered this one yesterday i'm very much excited i think it's an upgrade from my 8bitdo Pro 2 -wireless/bluetooth
I think this is my new favorite controller. Took the g7s place. Sucks that the headphones not working with xinput though.... Maybe they can fix this with an update? Regardless it's a win. And win review as always GH.
My thoughts exactly. As a switch owner I am not interested in wired controllers but when they make wireless one I will buy it the same day I hear about it.
I hate that I basically missed out on this controller. I used a gamesir T4 pro and G4 pro controllers, loved both (T4 got horrible stick drift so had to replace it)
Known about gulikit's king Kong 2 pro for a while and recently caved in and bought it.
A couple weeks later after I got it I learned gamesir released the Kaleid and I was quite miffed. I like the look of the Kaleid, hall effect joysticks are a godsend, and the back buttons are a huge benefit over the king Kong 2 pro.
I don't play enough games with controller to validate buying a new one, tho I might cave in and buy it at some point as it's not thaaaat expansive. An absolute steal compared to the "pro" controllers from major companies.
SAme here, I don't play nowhere near enough to buy a brand new PS5 controller (in my case, mines has the world's worst stick drift case ever I swear) and wanted something to hop back into Warzone II with. Almost bought the KingKong Pro 2 last night but I hesitated and came across this video after watching his review for the King Kong Pro 2. Almost like divine intervention lol.
Greetings Gamer Heaven, a HUGE thank you for your videos. I hope Gamesir will make a wireless version of T4 Kaleid. May I make a suggestion for a future video? The BEITONG Zeus 2 elite controller. This gamepad has a few interesting technologies, like rumbling LT and RT buttons, a lot of additional buttons, etc. And also good materials and complectation. I would love to see your input and opinion on it!
you're very welcome, yes that would be awesome. I will look into that gamepad, I hadn't heard of it.
I would also suggest the beitong asura 2 pro. Around 40$ with back buttons and hall triggers. Wireless and pc/android only.
@@pipthechaos yes. In my opinion, Beitong is underestimated company on the west market. And Zeus 2 can provide few features which nobody does. Asura 2 Pro not bad gamepad for the price. I bought it like a gift to a friend.
@@pipthechaos what are you on about '' hall triggers '' lol. It just has trigger deadzones. It's nothing new and hasn't get hall effect sensors for the thumbsticks so its complete garbage.
@@noWoodsman g7 doesnt have either and it's a good pad. you're a bit high on the hyperbole.
The wall in the background ... bro could open a controller only store and his business would still survive 💀
Damn why are all the good anti drift controllers switch only!! Especially since it’s literally an Xbox controller lol
No one looking at a controller when playing so why anyone care about this.
But triggers on these controllers is what really trigger me.
Why they not looking at awesome pro controller triggers.
Yeah it's sad
Because do make work you need an adapter that would make more expensive and would just work at Xbox. They expect you to buy the adapter yourself.
Bing bong! I was so happy with this review that I bought this controller!
almost perfect. with a click triggers its a total banger!
You think this controller can work with an Xbox console using one of those 'universal adapters'?
It works with an adapter.
19:50 the max value of stick is strangely NOT set to the outer edge at the max percentage you set, but simply a CUT- OFF, so the right of the range is not there, so if you set it to 50%, the maximum you can ever go is capped at 50 and made the stick useless, I tested with gamepad tester and in game (can't even sprint if I set it somewhat low, since it's capped) , I don't think the designer of this software play with controller enough to know what controller player needs
Really comprehensive controller at $40, really worth it!
Are you going to review the GameSir G7 SE with hall analog sticks for Xbox? Or are the Xbox updated G7 SE just like the one on this video, but for Xbox? Thanks. Btw, you are the only controller reviewer that I found that let us hear the sound of the buttons really close, which is what we are looking for in a controller review.
it does have 3 options 250 500 and 1000 on the software its an app you install from edge. he did advise not to download it from microsoft store because it is outdated. He made a video where he did test the polling rate and it is 0.9ms min 1000hz when he set it to 1000. The reading you saw is on default wich is 250hz.
I've been a lifelong pc gamer since the mid 1980's though I had a PS2 and an Xbox 360 eons ago,. After having wrist and thumb issues, I decided to attempt to use my ancient Logitech f310 and see if I could still play COD MWII with the guys...It's possible!! However, my lady's son said "Dude, try my PS4 controller" I was like...WOW!! Her other son said "Try my xbox elite version 1 controller" I was like... WOW! but not AS wowwed as I was with the PS4 controller though with a little tuning it was great also...SO... Seems I have to spend $200+ to get a decent controller with at least 2 back buttons! Well shit! I have jacked up wrists and cannot use the f310.. it's just TOO difficult to play a shooter with so.... I found YOUR channel! Over the last few days I've watched I don't know how many reviews on sub $100 controllers. Then I saved a bunch on my amazon acct to look over reviews and check quality, features etc...
THIS video showed me this controller which I could not find on Amazon without actually looking for this exact model.. (I used your link) Seems this $40 controller has everything I want.. minus the lighting but I can turn that off.. This controller, some Kontrol Freaks thumb stick risers and other odds and ends are getting ordered. Thanks Dude! Now I can ruin my wrists OR thumbs depending upon whichever hurt worse from day to day! You certainly earned a Subscriber aaaaand I'll keep checking out your videos!
Thanks again! ~51yo dude with busted up hands/wrists... =)
Thank you for the video this looks like a must buy! I have been searching for a wired hall effect controller with gyro and at least 2 back paddles that works on windows.
I previously used Dualsense with the Extremerate custom 4 paddle kits. Did that twice, both controllers showed stick drift within a few weeks. Seemed a massive waste or pot luck. This controller however, looks to have everything i would like. I just received the 8bitdo bluetooth ultimate but it ONLY uses gyro when in bluetooth mode.
If you were trying to find a back paddled/gyro/hall effect/wired/Not xinput etc.. would this be the only option? Appreciate any advice thank you!
Update: T4K does do all the above. Sticks dont seem as firm as the 8bitdo and the config app is terrible but the controller it self is brilliant.
I don't recommend this controller if you plan on keeping it for very long as they use 1mm thick plastic for the triggers and it literally broke after dropping it 2.5 feet onto thick carpet and when I put it in the box for a few months because it was broken it didn't even turn on so I can't say this is a quality controller, just a cheap option that will last about a year.
I kinda see why they put the face buttons in stock colors cuz they help learn the layout for the straight noobs and I really like how the motherboard whatever you call it looks really nice and has gold accents since you will look at it all the time it's a 10/10 on looks for me
i just bought this little gem today, and it was awesome, after update it to the last firmware, i noticed we have DS4 mode now (it's no in manual, and its not in the box as well), you can go with Home+B (purple LED) and since it's DS4, it's detected in Apple device (ipad on my case) 👌
and if you play games on steam and want to use that 3.5mm jack, just go with DS4 mode then, how nice is that 😊
i'm honestly so baffled that a company hasn't built a controller with all of the buttons on the back where only the sticks are on the front. it would be easier to design and build and it would be more comfortable to hold as well.
forealz
So I bought mine is there a trick to getting it to connect to the app? it connects to my pc fine I can use it and its fine but cant do anything in the software? it just blinks over and over and says your controller isnt connected please check, but if I click out of the app I can play and its just fine?
Really good controller for the price, pro controllers will need a new standard going forward.
The 3.5 mm jack being useless while plugged to PC is def makes me scratch my head.
But considering the fact that controllers NORMALLY have a pretty crappy on board audio DAC, that's not really an issue.
Creative sounds G6 or GC7 is where it's at.
i got gamesir t4 pro and 8bitdo ultimate bluetooth. And i swear to god that hall effect stick MUCH MUCH MUCH better when u need to aim.
I have the 8bitdo ultimate not the gamesir do you think the gamesir is better?
You *can* have stick drift even with hall effect stick modules. The reason for this is that in many modules the inner spring mechanism wears out and the stick is no longer positioned 100% in the middle when you let go of it. I've seen that with many PowerA controllers. The potentiometers are perfectly fine, but the stick itself is worn out. And here you can only work with a larger dead zone. In this respect, I doubt that Hall Effect sensors are really the future. They are mechanically not as vulnerable, but also less precise and more expensive.
No sh*t, but hall effect thumbsticks will last WAYYY longer than normal thumbstick, and therefor it will be the future for people that aren't stupid enough to fall for the big brands.
There’s a special part in the video just for you Wurstifier
@@GamerHeavenOfficial I know ;) I'm only saying this because you mainly test brand new controllers. However, I get a lot of controllers for repairs and as a result I often see the failures caused by people mishandling their sticks. And that's where hall sensors don't help. And I say that because in most cases (>70%) the springs in the module are worn out and the potentiometers are still perfectly fine.
Of course, bad potentiometers can cause stick drift or stick flicker. But that is less often the case than you might think. This mostly occurs with PS5 controllers. With the original Xbox it is more the spring, as well as with e.g. PowerA with the FJM10K modules.
Again: This was not a criticism of you or your video, but information for all those who believe that modules with hall effect sensors are indestructible.
Incidentally, what I like about this controller is that you can use the software to change the dead zone afterwards and save it in the controller. That's very helpful! Too bad you can't use it on Xbox.
@@Wurstifier What do you mean mishandling?
A spring will last way longer than a carbon sheet or whatever a potentiometer is made of.
It's a great controller guys!!!
The fact that is looks like an Xbox controller, yet doesn't work with Xbox, is kinda crazy, hope some controllers with no stick drift come to Xbox soon
Yeah that is crazy
They said they will.
The g7 se is there, it just came out and it works with xbox
Bro a video with you trying to solder a new joystick the right way would go hard.
funny thing is dated steelseries controllers have hall effect analog sticks
which ones?
I got this controller from the recent prime day and i got to say it is worth it. simple yet elegant. only thing stopping it from being perfect would be trigger stops then it would be better then the elite series 2 (in my opinion)
No lie, you should rereview this controller compared to the other “newer” ones as this one kicks all of their asses lol Great performing controller for the price, especially once you set it to 1000hz in the gamesir app.
Great review but not sure if you mentioned L3 R3, if you did I missed it. More like Xbox with clickyness or a little more gummy like PS?
Nice review, needed a stick-drift resistant controller for the new FIFA I'm getting into. My current is a Power A Spectra (I was broke) and it's drift is preventing me to be as precise as I could be on the ball. And I know I'm about to grind hours into it so I need it to last lol
My left stick for the T4k was slightly buggy out of the box, got waaay worse later. Bought a new one, returning the old one when I get home.
In the video, he says that
a good resting value for Hall Effect is 0.00392
and a good resting value for Potentiometer is 0.00002
He got 0.00392 with his T4K, I got 0.00002 on my T4K
Does my T4k not have hall effect sensors?!?! either way, left stick brokey so, new one hopefully be fine, but the resting value thing ^ has me confused
It does mine does the same thing as well
just got mine and looking at the module, it looks just like JH16 but in a different color
Needs 4 back buttons/paddles, I don't want to take my thumbs off the sticks to press face buttons in competitive games. Until someone makes a 4 button controller with hall sticks, I'm just going to stick with alps in the Fusion Pro 3.
I will buy this, 40 dollars with hall effect sensor is a bargain and I will mode it for sure.
I’d sell my duelsense edge and pro bfg for a “pro” wireless multi-platform version of this bad boy.
Update: I ordered the Gamesir G7 based on your recommendation and the fact that the T4 apparently isn't made for Xbox.
It'll be here tomorrow.
This would work with Brook Wingman XB Converter, but this adapter is more expensive than the controller.
I got this controller and it won’t play any audio through the headphone jack on the bottom and my computer won’t recognize it in the audio settings. Does anyone have a fix or know what’s wrong?
Aparently the audio doesn’t work when you higher the polling rate to 500-1000
love your videos also can you review the new kontrolfreek Thumb grips
Thank you. Yes I am actually doing a massive kontrol freeks review video including the new caps that just came out
@@GamerHeavenOfficial kontrolfreeks thumbstick and precision rings work great with the custom ps5 aim controller still have to get the new caps though
@@GamerHeavenOfficial does it work for ps5?
Apparently with the program on their site(not the one on the Microsoft store) you can now natively OC this controller to 1k hz polling.