I LOVE how Chris starts to talk about focus speed for family usage. I wish you guys can keep it up since you have to realize that most of use don't really use our camera for "pro" usage all the time. Sometimes it's just nice to have a pocketable camera that can keep up with the kids whether in video and stills. Great job guys.
Jordan touched on it right at the end. Which is what I purchased a ZS100. When I am traveling I find not having more zoom range can become a problem. The ZS100 focuses great wide open, just like Jordan touched on. These camera's do not need this amazing fast picture taking capability, they do need quick focus for a few frames and both do a good job at that. DSLR is for sports, not a pocket camera. Pocket camera should take good pictures and video. The ZS100 with it's 1" sensor finally delivered. I think a lot of people are missing out on taking advantage of it. I think the video quality at night is perfectly acceptable, given the camera, and during the day the 4k footage is great. Cropping the sensor is a bummer I will admit, and hopefully the next version will stop this madness. And guys, thanks for the dedication. I know shooting this must have been physically challenging with the cold that bad.
Malifestro I’m very seriously looking at the zs100. Main question now for me is how is it in low light? And if you happen to know, how is it in low light compared to earlier ZS travel zooms? I know it SHOULD be better, but if it really? Thanks!
RX100V wins for Vloggers as LX10 just does not focus well enough in video, wish Panasonic start improving their video auto focus soon as its their main weakness as otherwise that camera would been a great vlogging camera.
Panasonic would crop to 36mm at 4K, but not at 1080p. Should be mentioned at least. I would probably expect a lot more people would vlog at 1080p, given also that the LX10 would have the full 5-axis stabilization at 1080p, while it goes down to like 2-axis at 4K. And the Sony can't shoot more than 5-7 minutes of 4K video before overheating. But if you would vlog at 4K, yes the Panasonic will crop 4K. The Sony can do 4K without crop but it also overheats; the LX10 doesn't overheat.
chungdha I got the LUMIX for vlogging and tbh it focuses pretty dam good!! Sometimes loses the focus a little but gets it back! And tbh it sometimes given me some really coool arty shots I never even tried to get haha!
Some golden humor in this video. Loved the remark about The Revenant. I think Chris and Jordan have struck a good balance between being adversarial and the friendly banter. In the past, sometimes the adversarial vibe was too intense and I legitimately thought they hated each other but was forced to do the videos together by their boss. I used to obsess over being able to carry a tiny point-and-shoot that can still give me great results, but the results were always disappointing when compared to what I could achieve with larger cameras. Eventually, I decided that carrying a small holster pouch with a Micro Four Thirds system is actually the best compromise/solution. It gives excellent results yet is small and light weight enough that I never feel like it's a burden to carry one M43 body with 3 lenses.
To me a more interesting comparison would be LX10 vs RX100 III, as they're priced more or less the same. I guess it mostly comes down to EVF vs better physical controls.
Lol, loved the trash talk. I think The Camera Store should send you guys up to Banff to do a similar video between the Hero5 and the latest Sony action cams with optical stabilization... out on the slopes, rocking the snowboard lingo :)
Thanks Chris. You're assuming that because we live near the mountains we are physically fit, and adventurous though... not the case. Jordan goes on vacation to read books, and I drink Coke Zero all day long. Wait we do both Ski and Snowboard, never mind. Chris@TCSTV
Hmmm... I'm now envisioning you guys kicking back with a few Coke Zeros, then making some toboggan runs down a local hill with your respective camera trained on a book in front of you while riding down. Then afterwards, the person who can read the page from the [least shaky] video clip the fastest wins. Three birds. One stone.
I thought I decided on the a6500 because the video is absolutely so beautiful to my eye. I like it better than both the A7Rii and A7sii. In low light I love the noise patterns so that doesn't bother me at all. Still hesitant tho...When I found out about how bad the dimmed screens are on ALL Sony's I froze up. The rolling shutter is horrendous on these cams, too. For 2000-4000usd(with a quality lens) I expect more. I think we are soooo close to A7iii and A7siii updates it might pay to hold off and see. Plus the GH5 is available so soon... but, well over 3000usd with lens, sLog, filters and cards. With that all being said... Do I want to invest over 3000usd in something a bit better.....SHIT! Brings me right back to the a6500! I think that's the way to go.... and on a gimbal. People are creating al kinds of beautiful content with it... so, we should be able to also. Hope a decision comes to you soon and I will look forward to seeing the rewards on your channel:)
Great video guys! Thanks, for producing yet another informative piece. I love your work! One minor suggestion, (and perhaps it’s me, so apologies if I’m out of line)... can you use the name of the camera more often when you comment on its performance in the various areas, rather than saying, “mine does ‘x’ or yours does ‘y?’” I found myself a bit confused about which camera you were referring to. Thanks, again for your great work, and keep it up!
I've had the Panasonic for a long time now. It it awesome to have the 1.4 aperture. But the focus really isn't dependable. Also it crops way to much while recording 4K. Also the stabilisation isn't very good. But overall it's pretty good. Especially for picture taking.
The RX100 has a 5min 4K recording limit regardless of the temperature and the LX15 has a 15min limit, which is far more usable and they did forget to mention that.
STOP IT! Not every Sony camera overheats during video recording, and those that do only do so in specific circumstances. What the hell people, research a bit before posting BS.
I enjoy carrying the Panasonic ZS100. It fits a niche for everyday walk around and carry. Sometimes I just don't want to bring my larger DSLRs or Mirrorless bodies and their lenses. I think Jordan mentioned the ZS100 near the end of this video. I did enjoy this video.
An LX100 or GX80 with Leica 15mm f/1.7 solves that too. -- though, smartphones are getting more capable each release too. Looking forward to the Huawei P10 with dual Leica set-up
Yas never addressed the over heating issue I keep hearing the RX100v suffers from. I've a horrible 5 minute record time? Say it ain't so? Also does the RX100v actually do 960fps slo mo?
Thanks so much for sharing this well done comparison between this 2 cameras!! I myself have been working with the sony rx 100 for yeas. I love the mark II version because of the battery time life!! last for ever...... almost 1/2 day working and also the shoe mount on top which I can put a remote control for strobes to bad the new version don't have that features. Now I have been working with the IV for almost 4 years, just broke it a 6 months ago and now trying to replace it with the V which similar and a little better on video. Almost the 70% of my work had taken with Sony rx 100. Thanks again guys you rock cool photos and art you have. here some of my work if you want to see what i have done with the rx 100 @contenporad Cheers!! RC
I don't think you guys mentioned that the LX10 can record 4K video for 15 minutes, VS only 5 minutes for the Sony. And another somewhat popular CZcams guy was able to hit record after the 15 minutes was up and recorded 4K video like this until the battery died which was about an hour. The Sony just can't compete on the shooting 4K for more than 5 minutes.
We did enjoy this, thanks for bearing the cold. Love your reviews always, one day I will visit your store in Canada. If not, would love to take you out in London if you come here :-) Never cared for the viewfinder when I had Rx100, always wanted touchscreen instead. That makes more sense for the modern looking camera I feel.
What a great way to learn about these cameras! Loved the friendly rivalry - you really were serious about defending the honour of your cameras. Good shooting by Levi as well, especially the shots in the mall. Quick question to Jordan: As a videographer - Panasonic G85 with its stabilisation and feature set or Fuji XT20 with those lovely colour presets?
Why are the colors so much better on the Panasonic (13:51)? Look at the led flowers. The LX matches the video of the review, the RX flowers look much more blue (13:59).
thanks for this, I spent a good 2 weeks debating these exact two cameras as a pocket option. Went with the RX100v and I'm honestly astonished at how happy I am with it. For the first time ever I feel like I can shoot the kind of video clips I want (I have a toddler) and it just rocks. Not only that though I find those moments where I'm debating on taking my Fuji X-Pro2 with me to be less and less often. For casual outings etc I feel 100% equipped with the Sony, saving the Fuji system for intentional photo outings.
Kindersama The issue is that the rx100 is not that slim either, and given the price, and the risk of getting dust onto the lens area. Would anyone want to put it in their pocket. To me, this seems like the people who opt for an ultra book that is only slightly thinner than the slim sub 1 inch laptops, but often cost much more, while offering lower specs, such as a 50-60% slower core M CPU instead of the core i5 or core i7 CPU.
Razor2048 You really haven't handled a Rx100 do you? It's really pocketable. And it's an apple to orange comparison. At least, you can compare it to a G7x or a LX100 (despite the larger sensor), but you can't compare it to a DSLR.
Kindersama I understand that the rx100 can fit in a pocket. The point that I am getting at, is how many people will risk putting it in a pocket instead of a proper protective case, or purpose built camera bag? It is like the people who pick a ultra book over a slim laptop. They are for some reason, willing to give up 60% of their performance for probably a 0.2 inch reduction in thickness, and both devices will still have them using a dedicated case or bag to carry the laptop around. Sure you can do the apple thing where they stuck a MacBook Air in an envelope, but no one in their right mind would do that on such an expensive device, outside of a marketing campaign.
Your videos have inspired me to go to Calgary and the Canadian Rockies this summer....but surfing for plane tickets now I understand why tickets are a 100 bucks one way to Calgary right now.
This would have been useful if you compared the same scene using both cameras. The photos taken with each camera were too drastically different to be of any use.
always love your videos! your brutal honesty on your reviews is refreshing and insightful. i'm in the market for a simple camera that can shoot 120fps without breaking my piggy bank. i've considered going as far as getting a6300 or a6500. i just want something i can shoot some professional looking slow motion with. the end game being, hopefully, shooting some amateur music videos for local talent/ friends. the camera's main purpose will be capturing slow motion at 120fps and i haven't been able to find a camera or camcorder that has had the reviews the rx100 v has received or even in this price range. do you have any suggestions i can look at for more options? budget range tops out around $1,000 usd. thank you! keep up the awesome work! always a joy to watch!
Minus 25 😳😳😳. Great review, thanks guys. I’m in the hunt for a compact for street photography. Maybe you should of compared the lx with the rx100IV as the price point as you keep pointing out is way out. We all have our different requirements when I comes to purchase but I think I’m going for lx15. Reasons, lens, don’t need viewfinder. Thanks again for an entertaining review.
I have an LX10 for those awkward situations but I kind of hate it and love it all at once... humm. I watched this video a couple times before getting it a long time ago.
Sony not changing the body is very nice for under water photographers because they don't need to get a new and potentially very expensive housing every time they upgrade their camera.
The snowed in maze and hotel scenes in the Shining were filmed at Elstree studios in London with artificial snow. The hotel interiors on the sound stages there.
Another thought: I'm planning to upgrade from my little Canon S95 to something with more updated sensor, pixels, focus, LCD screen, etc. So, for me, as a carry-cam, the LX10 is a good use of my money. For a more "serious" cam, I'll probably spring for either an FZ1000 (constant f/2.8 and big zoom for shooting animals) or GX8 (interchangeable lenses and bigger sensor). Ideally, I'd want at least an APS-C sensor on that camera, but just don't like the Sony or any SLR. If only Pentax took its old Spotmatic body and put a digital sensor and LCD on it. I'd buy it in a heartbeat, screw-in lenses and all!
Maaaan, I have a sony RX100m3 and hardly ever use the EVF. Dont get me wrong, Its great and works well...But a little small and you gotta go through the small process of setup and set down. Takes only a few extra seconds but I find myself choosing to making the screen work rather than pop and pull the finder out...Really digging the panasonic and that touch screen seems veeerrry handy. Much cheaper and faster lens! Totally would get the panny.
This shootout was awesome and HILARIOUS. Thank you for this fun and very informative video!! Fave quote: "So, what I look for when I shoot is mostly ...ah... anything phallic." *Bends over snaps pic of fence pole* hahaha
Very entertaining. If the next RX100 has a well implemented touch screen and doesn't increase it's premium, it's gonna be unbeatable for a long long time.
great video guys, funny video while still being informative. I've watched a couple of time to make up my mind and it's always amusing. Also if I can ask for an advice , do you think it is still worth to buy a Panasonic lumic dmc-gm5? I wanted something along that size to be my daily driver something to have always with me in my pocket.However it turned two years old and I just don't know if there's any successor to it right behind the corner or not.Otherwise what you think is a camera that could be effective as a daily driver while not being too much of a burden ? I thought even to sony rx100 mark V but it is not really my coup of tea.
great review!! the missing ND Filter is really hurting when comparing These 2 cameras. What about the focus system of the rx100iii in comparison to the lx15? Have a nice weekend guys
Haven't tried the LX10, but here are some comments on the Sony, which is warming the shelf as we speak -- I haven't used it in a long time. The viewfinder is tiny. I mean holy f* tiny. How can anyone tell whether something is in focus is beyond me. Its diopter adjustment is ridiculously small and placed where it is easier to fold back the viewfinder than adjust it. The controls are tiny and fiddly. My goal most of the time was not finding the right control but trying not to accidentally touch something while taking pictures. Autofocus is glacial and misses way too much. Face recognition works on paper, but I yet have to see it work under real-life conditions. My Nikon D7000 is back in use despite its size. Even the D7000 has too many unreliable electronic fiddly bits. I can only hope one day, someone will make a digital equivalent of a Nikon FM2n or an Olympus OM-1n, so we can focus on photography instead of fighting the electronic doodahs.
Interesting opinion on the Sony when everybody seems to be crazy about them. I have the RX100IV and I feel the same way as you. While it has good image quallity but the ergonomics ruins everything it is absolutely terrible for the same things you mentioned... Hopefully Canon will come out with the G5X II and I can get rid of the Sony.
I don't know what it is but Sony has always a flatter image, i don't know to explain it. But with a Panasonic or a Canon I get a more photo feeling from the old days. That's why I prefer the Panasonic range. I had a lot of Sony camera's in the past, but hopefully there is coming a LX200....i want something small with a big sensor and of course 4K...but as always great review, I love this channel :-)
My favorite things about the shootouts is how petty you two can be I love it! hahahaha! But as well as getting great info from you guys! love you guys keep it up! What would be comparable for video in canon to the Panasonic GH3?
Thumb up, but barely, due to hard to follow audio. The taller guy speaks faster and drops his voice a lot. I'm glad you did the shoot-out. It'd help a bit more to shoot roughly the same photo with both cameras, at least a few times. That said, you both have good eyes and shot some nice pix I wouldn't have thought of.
It is worth mentioning that the 4K video is limited to 5 minutes, and after 9 minutes the camera is so hot that it can no longer be photographed, and that there is no entry to an external microphone
These videos are getting more and more badass than before
Can't wait for best and worst of 2017. Can the year finally be over? ;)
I hope they move back to hard spirits this year. None of this soft beer drinking stuff pls.
I LOVE how Chris starts to talk about focus speed for family usage. I wish you guys can keep it up since you have to realize that most of use don't really use our camera for "pro" usage all the time. Sometimes it's just nice to have a pocketable camera that can keep up with the kids whether in video and stills. Great job guys.
Jordan touched on it right at the end. Which is what I purchased a ZS100. When I am traveling I find not having more zoom range can become a problem. The ZS100 focuses great wide open, just like Jordan touched on. These camera's do not need this amazing fast picture taking capability, they do need quick focus for a few frames and both do a good job at that. DSLR is for sports, not a pocket camera. Pocket camera should take good pictures and video. The ZS100 with it's 1" sensor finally delivered. I think a lot of people are missing out on taking advantage of it. I think the video quality at night is perfectly acceptable, given the camera, and during the day the 4k footage is great. Cropping the sensor is a bummer I will admit, and hopefully the next version will stop this madness. And guys, thanks for the dedication. I know shooting this must have been physically challenging with the cold that bad.
Malifestro I’m very seriously looking at the zs100. Main question now for me is how is it in low light? And if you happen to know, how is it in low light compared to earlier ZS travel zooms? I know it SHOULD be better, but if it really? Thanks!
I guess one more advantage on LX 10 is the post-focus option which RX100 doesn't have.
A good example of how 2 people can have a totally different opinion and still handle that with a nice and friendly way of humor!
RX100V wins for Vloggers as LX10 just does not focus well enough in video, wish Panasonic start improving their video auto focus soon as its their main weakness as otherwise that camera would been a great vlogging camera.
True but for vlogging they should also improve the crop. The Sony can shot at 24mm and the panasonic only at 36mm which is a huge deal for vlogging.
Vloggers use Canon anyways. Sad but true.
Totally agree.
Panasonic would crop to 36mm at 4K, but not at 1080p. Should be mentioned at least.
I would probably expect a lot more people would vlog at 1080p, given also that the LX10 would have the full 5-axis stabilization at 1080p, while it goes down to like 2-axis at 4K. And the Sony can't shoot more than 5-7 minutes of 4K video before overheating.
But if you would vlog at 4K, yes the Panasonic will crop 4K. The Sony can do 4K without crop but it also overheats; the LX10 doesn't overheat.
chungdha I got the LUMIX for vlogging and tbh it focuses pretty dam good!! Sometimes loses the focus a little but gets it back! And tbh it sometimes given me some really coool arty shots I never even tried to get haha!
Some golden humor in this video. Loved the remark about The Revenant.
I think Chris and Jordan have struck a good balance between being adversarial and the friendly banter. In the past, sometimes the adversarial vibe was too intense and I legitimately thought they hated each other but was forced to do the videos together by their boss.
I used to obsess over being able to carry a tiny point-and-shoot that can still give me great results, but the results were always disappointing when compared to what I could achieve with larger cameras. Eventually, I decided that carrying a small holster pouch with a Micro Four Thirds system is actually the best compromise/solution. It gives excellent results yet is small and light weight enough that I never feel like it's a burden to carry one M43 body with 3 lenses.
So snarky, so hilarious, that extra cold weather really brought it out in you guys for this one lol, freaking hilarious, loved it
You guys are so much fun together in front of the camera! More of this please!
To me a more interesting comparison would be LX10 vs RX100 III, as they're priced more or less the same. I guess it mostly comes down to EVF vs better physical controls.
yeah id like to see that too, since im planning to buy ether one. due to budgeting hehe
III doesn't have 4k video
In terms of photo/video quality, how does LX100 compare with LX10?
Lol, loved the trash talk. I think The Camera Store should send you guys up to Banff to do a similar video between the Hero5 and the latest Sony action cams with optical stabilization... out on the slopes, rocking the snowboard lingo :)
Thanks Chris. You're assuming that because we live near the mountains we are physically fit, and adventurous though... not the case. Jordan goes on vacation to read books, and I drink Coke Zero all day long. Wait we do both Ski and Snowboard, never mind.
Chris@TCSTV
Hmmm... I'm now envisioning you guys kicking back with a few Coke Zeros, then making some toboggan runs down a local hill with your respective camera trained on a book in front of you while riding down. Then afterwards, the person who can read the page from the [least shaky] video clip the fastest wins. Three birds. One stone.
Did you make up your mind on what your next "adventure capturerer" is going to be?
Hey TGS! ...still sitting on the fence about which way to go - if only we could pick and choose features / options from manufacturers. How about you?
I thought I decided on the a6500 because the video is absolutely so beautiful to my eye. I like it better than both the A7Rii and A7sii. In low light I love the noise patterns so that doesn't bother me at all. Still hesitant tho...When I found out about how bad the dimmed screens are on ALL Sony's I froze up. The rolling shutter is horrendous on these cams, too. For 2000-4000usd(with a quality lens) I expect more. I think we are soooo close to A7iii and A7siii updates it might pay to hold off and see. Plus the GH5 is available so soon... but, well over 3000usd with lens, sLog, filters and cards. With that all being said... Do I want to invest over 3000usd in something a bit better.....SHIT! Brings me right back to the a6500! I think that's the way to go.... and on a gimbal. People are creating al kinds of beautiful content with it... so, we should be able to also. Hope a decision comes to you soon and I will look forward to seeing the rewards on your channel:)
Where i live the LX15 is 400 euro cheaper... that is a lot to consider.. 599 vs 999...
Loved the Great White North (Bob & Doug Mckenzie) Episode!! The bantar in the cold all bundled up was great! Thanks Guys!
the Sony needs a touch screen.
why does sony have a problem with this tek that Olympus was giving us six years ago with the OMD EM5.
Loved this comparison, very well done and entertaining :)
Great video guys! Thanks, for producing yet another informative piece. I love your work! One minor suggestion, (and perhaps it’s me, so apologies if I’m out of line)... can you use the name of the camera more often when you comment on its performance in the various areas, rather than saying, “mine does ‘x’ or yours does ‘y?’” I found myself a bit confused about which camera you were referring to.
Thanks, again for your great work, and keep it up!
I've had the Panasonic for a long time now. It it awesome to have the 1.4 aperture. But the focus really isn't dependable. Also it crops way to much while recording 4K. Also the stabilisation isn't very good. But overall it's pretty good. Especially for picture taking.
Sony has overheating issue in video mode... And you didn't tell about this issue in your video...
Andrew Lazarev you can't when it's -30 ambient
***** they knew what they did )))
I haven't noticed this at all and have shot a fair bit of video with it. Case doesn't even warm up.
The RX100 has a 5min 4K recording limit regardless of the temperature and the LX15 has a 15min limit, which is far more usable and they did forget to mention that.
STOP IT! Not every Sony camera overheats during video recording, and those that do only do so in specific circumstances. What the hell people, research a bit before posting BS.
Great comparison and fun comments. Very glad that Nicholson didn't get either of you in the snow maze.
hi I think that Sony have not very pleased colors for eyes too much cold colors I think I'm right or not
I'm of exactly the opposite view - I hate the magenta cast of the Panasonic. To each their own.
I enjoy carrying the Panasonic ZS100. It fits a niche for everyday walk around and carry. Sometimes I just don't want to bring my larger DSLRs or Mirrorless bodies and their lenses. I think Jordan mentioned the ZS100 near the end of this video. I did enjoy this video.
An LX100 or GX80 with Leica 15mm f/1.7 solves that too.
-- though, smartphones are getting more capable each release too. Looking forward to the Huawei P10 with dual Leica set-up
Do you guys get paid for this? this top notch stuff , great work guys.
Not really... which is what makes them even more astounding!!! Thanks for watching Supernova1976
Chris@TCSTV
Hope Chris asked before he borrowed his girlfriend's bobble hat
Totally did and she was fine with it. I'm not giving it back though.
Chris @ TCSTV
And she's probably fine with that too... :D
2 mm is a big difference when every inches counts, and I'm not just talking about the camera and its lens either. =P
It makes a big difference at the wide end, but not that much at the long end.
That's what she said! ;P
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The only condition where the RX100 V won't overheat...
I'M KIDDING, I'm kidding... I really want an RX100V... So much money. :(
Great video! Spent so many hours of my childhood in those Chinatown buildings, it's a little surreal seeing them on camera.
"Lick the outside of it and freeze it to my skin", lol. Nice hat. Love the video guys. Informative and fun.
And for those interested in visiting Alberta in the Spring...it starts in early June.
Yas never addressed the over heating issue I keep hearing the RX100v suffers from. I've a horrible 5 minute record time? Say it ain't so? Also does the RX100v actually do 960fps slo mo?
totally lol rx100 is lame because of the over heating issue
Thanks so much for sharing this well done comparison between this 2 cameras!!
I myself have been working with the sony rx 100 for yeas. I love the mark II version because of the battery time life!! last for ever...... almost 1/2 day working and also the shoe mount on top which I can put a remote control for strobes to bad the new version don't have that features. Now I have been working with the IV for almost 4 years, just broke it a 6 months ago and now trying to replace it with the V which similar and a little better on video. Almost the 70% of my work had taken with Sony rx 100.
Thanks again guys you rock cool photos and art you have.
here some of my work if you want to see what i have done with the rx 100 @contenporad
Cheers!!
RC
I don't think you guys mentioned that the LX10 can record 4K video for 15 minutes, VS only 5 minutes for the Sony. And another somewhat popular CZcams guy was able to hit record after the 15 minutes was up and recorded 4K video like this until the battery died which was about an hour. The Sony just can't compete on the shooting 4K for more than 5 minutes.
Get'm Jordan! Dang it's cold out there. I'm freezing just watching this.
That intro was awesome!
Panasonic may have a 1.4 aperture but it stops down quickly right after you start zooming following the wide angle
We did enjoy this, thanks for bearing the cold. Love your reviews always, one day I will visit your store in Canada. If not, would love to take you out in London if you come here :-)
Never cared for the viewfinder when I had Rx100, always wanted touchscreen instead. That makes more sense for the modern looking camera I feel.
What a great way to learn about these cameras! Loved the friendly rivalry - you really were serious about defending the honour of your cameras. Good shooting by Levi as well, especially the shots in the mall.
Quick question to Jordan: As a videographer - Panasonic G85 with its stabilisation and feature set or Fuji XT20 with those lovely colour presets?
Best gloves out there for sure, hands have yet to be cold using them
Will Jordan ever get a definitive victory?
Why are the colors so much better on the Panasonic (13:51)? Look at the led flowers. The LX matches the video of the review, the RX flowers look much more blue (13:59).
Great shootout, gentlemen, great job as always.
Here in Florida it hasn't been below 38 all year. Its usually about 75 though.
thanks for this, I spent a good 2 weeks debating these exact two cameras as a pocket option. Went with the RX100v and I'm honestly astonished at how happy I am with it. For the first time ever I feel like I can shoot the kind of video clips I want (I have a toddler) and it just rocks. Not only that though I find those moments where I'm debating on taking my Fuji X-Pro2 with me to be less and less often. For casual outings etc I feel 100% equipped with the Sony, saving the Fuji system for intentional photo outings.
"When I'm shooting I'm looking for anything... phallic."
XD
Love the vibe of this whole vid. You guys are great together.
I wish all camera shootouts were like this.
Can we get a shootout comparing the Sony RX100 mk5, in comparison to the Nikon D5500 + Sigma 17-50mm F2.8 lens (both come out to a similar price)?
but not size
Well, a D5500 is not really pocketable, specially with a 17-50/2.8 lens... Comparison done! :)
Kindersama The issue is that the rx100 is not that slim either, and given the price, and the risk of getting dust onto the lens area. Would anyone want to put it in their pocket. To me, this seems like the people who opt for an ultra book that is only slightly thinner than the slim sub 1 inch laptops, but often cost much more, while offering lower specs, such as a 50-60% slower core M CPU instead of the core i5 or core i7 CPU.
Razor2048 You really haven't handled a Rx100 do you? It's really pocketable.
And it's an apple to orange comparison. At least, you can compare it to a G7x or a LX100 (despite the larger sensor), but you can't compare it to a DSLR.
Kindersama I understand that the rx100 can fit in a pocket. The point that I am getting at, is how many people will risk putting it in a pocket instead of a proper protective case, or purpose built camera bag? It is like the people who pick a ultra book over a slim laptop. They are for some reason, willing to give up 60% of their performance for probably a 0.2 inch reduction in thickness, and both devices will still have them using a dedicated case or bag to carry the laptop around. Sure you can do the apple thing where they stuck a MacBook Air in an envelope, but no one in their right mind would do that on such an expensive device, outside of a marketing campaign.
Your videos have inspired me to go to Calgary and the Canadian Rockies this summer....but surfing for plane tickets now I understand why tickets are a 100 bucks one way to Calgary right now.
very helpful video, thanks guys. You managed to tacle al the questions I had about these 2 cameras before buying one.
Great shoutout, great teamwork. Félicitations!
This would have been useful if you compared the same scene using both cameras. The photos taken with each camera were too drastically different to be of any use.
Shooting in the hood! I love it!! Great episode guys!!!
WOOO so happy for another video :)
always love your videos! your brutal honesty on your reviews is refreshing and insightful. i'm in the market for a simple camera that can shoot 120fps without breaking my piggy bank. i've considered going as far as getting a6300 or a6500. i just want something i can shoot some professional looking slow motion with. the end game being, hopefully, shooting some amateur music videos for local talent/ friends. the camera's main purpose will be capturing slow motion at 120fps and i haven't been able to find a camera or camcorder that has had the reviews the rx100 v has received or even in this price range. do you have any suggestions i can look at for more options? budget range tops out around $1,000 usd. thank you! keep up the awesome work! always a joy to watch!
Why oh why would you dislike this!...its such good fun!xx
Very important: No overheating problem at all. Hurray!
you guys are a riot! great reviews, with entertainment value!
You guys are the best ;)
Minus 25 😳😳😳. Great review, thanks guys. I’m in the hunt for a compact for street photography. Maybe you should of compared the lx with the rx100IV as the price point as you keep pointing out is way out. We all have our different requirements when I comes to purchase but I think I’m going for lx15. Reasons, lens, don’t need viewfinder. Thanks again for an entertaining review.
Both are true entertainers - they do anything to spice up their reviews. Love you!
Absolutely! We will do anything for your entertainment... anything...
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TheCameraStoreTV Next bowls of Pho will be on me. You guys are the best!
I am a HUUUGE fan of lounge/chillout and 1:08 is such a glorious track.
I won't complain so much about the heat of the summer down here
I have an LX10 for those awkward situations but I kind of hate it and love it all at once... humm. I watched this video a couple times before getting it a long time ago.
Sony not changing the body is very nice for under water photographers because they don't need to get a new and potentially very expensive housing every time they upgrade their camera.
The snowed in maze and hotel scenes in the Shining were filmed at Elstree studios in London with artificial snow. The hotel interiors on the sound stages there.
HAHAHAHA, I had a feeling you guys would have Pho! another great video guys, love the humor!
For a couple of Canadian's you sure do cry a lot about the cold. Are you really Canadian? Great video BTW.
Yes we are very Canadian, but we've also traveled to many warm destinations and now we're ruined.
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"All your dials suck. I got a nice clicky top dial."
Can*t wait for the LX200 which is more comparable to the RX100 line
Another thought: I'm planning to upgrade from my little Canon S95 to something with more updated sensor, pixels, focus, LCD screen, etc.
So, for me, as a carry-cam, the LX10 is a good use of my money. For a more "serious" cam, I'll probably spring for either an FZ1000 (constant f/2.8 and big zoom for shooting animals) or GX8 (interchangeable lenses and bigger sensor). Ideally, I'd want at least an APS-C sensor on that camera, but just don't like the Sony or any SLR.
If only Pentax took its old Spotmatic body and put a digital sensor and LCD on it. I'd buy it in a heartbeat, screw-in lenses and all!
This was great guys... super entertaining and informative!!
You two are hilarious. I love this format.
Maaaan, I have a sony RX100m3 and hardly ever use the EVF. Dont get me wrong, Its great and works well...But a little small and you gotta go through the small process of setup and set down. Takes only a few extra seconds but I find myself choosing to making the screen work rather than pop and pull the finder out...Really digging the panasonic and that touch screen seems veeerrry handy. Much cheaper and faster lens! Totally would get the panny.
Those two cameras are seriously awesome, but I still want a Fuji X70 for some reason.
This shootout was awesome and HILARIOUS. Thank you for this fun and very informative video!!
Fave quote: "So, what I look for when I shoot is mostly ...ah... anything phallic." *Bends over snaps pic of fence pole* hahaha
Very entertaining. If the next RX100 has a well implemented touch screen and doesn't increase it's premium, it's gonna be unbeatable for a long long time.
What about the zoom? How many is it all together, the optical and the digital? Thank you!
great video guys, funny video while still being informative. I've watched a couple of time to make up my mind and it's always amusing.
Also if I can ask for an advice , do you think it is still worth to buy a Panasonic lumic dmc-gm5? I wanted something along that size to be my daily driver something to have always with me in my pocket.However it turned two years old and I just don't know if there's any successor to it right behind the corner or not.Otherwise what you think is a camera that could be effective as a daily driver while not being too much of a burden ? I thought even to sony rx100 mark V but it is not really my coup of tea.
We really need to appreciate the price and have it as a winning point.
Check out that snow!
great review!! the missing ND Filter is really hurting when comparing These 2 cameras. What about the focus system of the rx100iii in comparison to the lx15? Have a nice weekend guys
Haven't tried the LX10, but here are some comments on the Sony, which is warming the shelf as we speak -- I haven't used it in a long time. The viewfinder is tiny. I mean holy f* tiny. How can anyone tell whether something is in focus is beyond me. Its diopter adjustment is ridiculously small and placed where it is easier to fold back the viewfinder than adjust it. The controls are tiny and fiddly. My goal most of the time was not finding the right control but trying not to accidentally touch something while taking pictures. Autofocus is glacial and misses way too much. Face recognition works on paper, but I yet have to see it work under real-life conditions.
My Nikon D7000 is back in use despite its size. Even the D7000 has too many unreliable electronic fiddly bits. I can only hope one day, someone will make a digital equivalent of a Nikon FM2n or an Olympus OM-1n, so we can focus on photography instead of fighting the electronic doodahs.
Interesting opinion on the Sony when everybody seems to be crazy about them. I have the RX100IV and I feel the same way as you. While it has good image quallity but the ergonomics ruins everything it is absolutely terrible for the same things you mentioned... Hopefully Canon will come out with the G5X II and I can get rid of the Sony.
I agree, part of the enjoyment in photography is the handling of the camera itself. Thats why I enjoy my Pana LX100 a lot because how nice it handles.
If it's between lx10 or the rx100 iv (I can't afford the v) which is a better camera?
7:13 Can you hear the laugh? Shaking the camera :)
You guys are awesome. Loved the review
you guys are hilarious… love these two cameras n you 2 :D
At least no overheating problems with this weather :)
Well done! Great reviews!!
Trash talk game on point. You guys are just one person shy of a Grand Tour/Top Gear for cameras.
I don't know what it is but Sony has always a flatter image, i don't know to explain it. But with a Panasonic or a Canon I get a more photo feeling from the old days. That's why I prefer the Panasonic range. I had a lot of Sony camera's in the past, but hopefully there is coming a LX200....i want something small with a big sensor and of course 4K...but as always great review, I love this channel :-)
Thanks for the video guys. Get comparison.
Yikes. This is definitely making me reconsider the whole "move to Canada for free healthcare" thing.
My favorite things about the shootouts is how petty you two can be I love it! hahahaha! But as well as getting great info from you guys! love you guys keep it up! What would be comparable for video in canon to the Panasonic GH3?
Chris - the Snow White balance seems to change during the course of the video....
What about Sony's overheating issue, why they didnt tackle that?
All RX100 owners should add the rubber Sony grip for it. They usually have it on sale for $5-10
Don't care which camera won, but I preferred Jordan's photos
I deeply respect your opinion Calvin! That being said, you're wrong.
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I agree with Chris.
Jordan @ TCSTV
Thumb up, but barely, due to hard to follow audio.
The taller guy speaks faster and drops his voice a lot.
I'm glad you did the shoot-out. It'd help a bit more to shoot roughly the same photo with both cameras, at least a few times.
That said, you both have good eyes and shot some nice pix I wouldn't have thought of.
you guys are awesome. wish I was up there to visit your store.
It is worth mentioning that the 4K video is limited to 5 minutes, and after 9 minutes the camera is so hot that it can no longer be photographed, and that there is no entry to an external microphone