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Why did ALCO Locomotive smoke so much?
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- čas přidán 19. 08. 2024
- #alco#locomotive#emd#knowledgeknorr
Doston es video me bataya gya hai ki ALCO Locomotive end se jyada smoke kyo karte hai janane k liye video ko pura dekhiye pasand aye to like kijiye share kijiye
Whatsoever, the ALCO locomohtive sound during it's pick up is just awesome. I just get mad of it.
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Raw sound of alco is awesome....!
When it comes to sound no one can beat ALCO THE LEGEND
Alco is Love.. ❤❤❤
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The question should have been, why does the EMD engine in spite of being a 2stroke engine smoke less than ALCO engine which is a 4stroke engine? We see normally that old 2stroke petrol engines smoke a lot and that is due to two major causes. One being the mixture of petrol and engine oil that is burnt in the cylinder, engine oil being smokey. The other reason is that the simple 2stroke technology that leads to incomplete combustion in the cylinder due to the combination of power and exhaust stroke in to one. So how can we refine the two stroke engine? (1) Don't mix fuel and engine oil. Have a separate engine lubrication pump and reservoir. (2) microprocessor controlled injection of fuel and air mixture directly in to the cylinder to improve combustion and timing and there by less smoke. It may be super or turbocharged to improve efficiency. Being a 2stroke engine it already has double the power for the same displacement. This is what EMD has done, fine tuned the 2stroke technology for diesel engine.
ALCO is an old diesel technology 4stroke engine, like your old TATA trucks, smokey and polluting. It can also be fine tuned by microprocessor controlled fuel injection for full/better combustion and addition of super/power charger. Then youwill get a GE engine that is clean burning, fuel efficient 4stroke engine.
Really very good explanation . The channel ought to have explained it.
I this comment really answers the question. I was really confused watching the video because 2 stroke engines are generally considered more polluting than 4 stroke ones.
Thanks, the video was really stupid and confusing.
Alpha locomotive's sound is like an old tractor whereas EMD locomotive's sound is like jet engine.
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Tractors are also nice. They are one of the major contributors for us receiving that food on our plates. 😄
@@mindset20470
Great video!
By the way, EMD is now ProgressRail (a part of Caterpillar)
Yes, It's a Fact Now.
Alco and emd both are good and powerful locomotives i love diesel locos chugging sound
Yay alco train wheels 😀😀
Alco sound emd engine sound video
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A nice attempt but along with some accurate information, there was some highly inaccurate information. In two stroke actually more fuel is used since it is firing twice as fast as a 4 stroke. Also since two stroke engines don't use overhead valves, they are less fuel efficienct. That is the reason for the difference in sound. Two stroke engines also produce more but not twice the power of a four stroker per unit of engine displacement. Both Alco and EMD use a V16 engine with similar RPMs but the WDM3A will produce about 67% the power of the WDP-4D.
Alco is about 50 year old technology. Diesel technology has evolved in that time. Common Rail, Direct vs indirect injection, electronic control of the fuel injectors, fuel-air mix etc. The turbo charger is driven by exhaust gases and compresses the inlet gases for more fuel and therefore more power from the same displacement of engine. All these features are found in virtually every modern diesel car sold in India today except they are four stroke engines.
The turbocharger produces that "whine" metallic sound in the EMD.
Exactly!
The trouble with many a Indian youtubers and Quorans today is that every half literate guy thinks himself expert enough to teach others on technical subject they aren't experienced in , nor do they bother to really research deeply.
People are more interested in speaking even if gibberish. Very few people really bother to really learn about something and then share what they got.
Bhai itni dn k baad aapki video aayi Q vai daily upload Kiya kiziye bhai accha lagta h aapki information
Sir, if 4 stroke railway engines ALCOS emit more smoke than 2 stroke EMDs, then this same logic should be extended to 2 stroke and 4 stroke motorcycles, which is not the case. Why??
This advantage is only for low speed industrial diesel engines, not high speed petrol two/four stroke bike engines. Incase of a bike engine the two strokes produced more power for same displacement but threw out unburnt fuel air mixture leading to heavy pollution. The modern pollution norms killed these two strokes. Incase of large capacity low revving diesels, the two stroke turbo/supercharged engine is actually less polluting and more fuel efficient compared to their four stroke counterpart
The true fact is that both alco and emd loco has turbo suppercharger.but incase of alco loco turbo starts work at high speed but in emd loco turbo starts work from starting of engine
Thanks for the explanation Ravi ji and Siba ji.
Mera bhi yahi sawl hai
Bhai bike ka weight aur cost bhi dhekni padti ha
Aap gayan (knowledge ) self hai
Desh wasiwo ko itna acha gayan dete hi great sir ji
Awesome info sir.. Loved it
Thank you! Knowledge Knorr
Informative Content
Excellent superb video
sir ji apki video ko dekhne ke baad dil khus ho jata he 2 se 3 min ki video me poori jankari mel jaati he Awesome videos
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Thank you that's my que
Very beautiful and memorable video 💝🌹🙏🏻
Fit Dada... kya khub tarike se samjaya hain thank u bro....
Bahut badiya jankari abhi tak hum samajh the ki four stroke engine jyada badi hota hai
Smoke filter might be good. 2 stroke anyways is much archaic, polluting and partly consumes and burns the air-fuel mixture. I am a mechanical engineer dude!
sir apne bahot hi achi jankari di... alco locomotive disel kum kharch karta he... or emd jyada disel kharch karte he...
Bahut kuchh sikhne ko milta h sir
बहुत ही ज्ञानवर्धक
Nice explanation bhaiya ji....😎😎👍👍👍👍
Nice info brother
Very nice information....👍👌
Nice information sir.
Very Good Information For Amit Sir. ✌👌👍
Sir As per my knowledge because i m mechanical engineer more fuel is wasted in 2 stroke then why to use two stroke engine??
ABHIRAM BUDRUKKAR
That is in case of 2 stroke petrol engine. Not in case of 2 stroke diesel engine.
As diesel engines are direct fuel injected so the drawbacks of 2 stroke petrol engine is not there in 2 stroke diesel engine.
Got it? 🤗
@@Turbo_Charged. ji, then why not car, truck and bus engines which run on diesel are 4 stroke not 2 stroke?
Why GE locomotives use 4 stroke diesel engines?
Why now EMD - CAT has shifted from their long standing 2 stroke engines to 4 Stroke engines recently?
Petrol engines are also direct injection engines from almost 15 years! Carburettors are history now.
Anantha Subramanya Iyer
Cars trucks buses dont use 16 cylinder engines.
You cant compare a car engine with locomotive engine.
Loco diesel engine can go to maxm 1200 rpm only but a general car petrol engine can go upto 6000 rpm.
Yes petrol engine have GDI(gasoline direct injection) technology but it is not widely used till now. Till now general cars which consists of petrol engine have MPFI technology which is indirect injection, not direct injection.
Yes carburetors were removed from cars in India in last part of 90's but till now it is used in 2 wheelers.
2 stroke petrol engines were widely used in 2 wheelers not 4 wheelers.
U cant mix the requirement of a railway loco engine with a Automobile engines.
In Automobile engines, most mordern technologies, systems has developed & applied but in loco engine the technology is far behind in comparison with automobile engines due to reliability purpose.
Sir emd loco is failure in foreign countries..and so its cost is low to bring the technologies to india and the alco loco used in india is very much outdated technologies
@@locompg EMD are not at all failure but highly successful. It is after they were purchased by CATERPILLAR they went down but they are bouncing and now gaining their trust back from GE
Sir aapka har video kuchh new sikhane ko milta hai. Jai Hind Sir
Sir mujhe hamesha isme ek confusion tha wo aaj mera solve Ho Gaya thanks sir
It has nothing to do with two stroke and four stroke it's related to how old technology is Alco from 1960 where as EMD is are from 1990 where Tier 0 environmental regulation for locomotives have been created. The current general electric locomotives are from Tier 1 lot less smoke that both alco and emd
Wah kya baat hai you have improved alot
Dear Knowledge Knorr... I've got two questions. One is related with Your Channel and the other one is related to the Engines.
First of all let me congratulate you that you're doing wonderful with your channel. I really like your work and the way you explain the concepts.
Now, coming back to the real purpose:
Q1). Why the name of your channel is Knowledge Knorr ?
Q2). Why the EMD Diesel Locomotives are longer than the ALCO Diesel Locomotives ?
Please shoot a Video about my Question & I'll be waiting for it.
Keep Up the Good Work.
Higher horse power required larger engines and the turbocharger takes some place, radiators and cooling fans are also larger in EMD locomotive compared to ALCo
@@menon_ji4984 okay... Makes sense. Thanks. 😊
Bhai Saab Bahat bahat shukriya.
what you said is wrong.
inside the emd engine there will be sound proof metals & arrangment of piston is different.
EMD is pure advanced engine,with igbt,ecu units
IGBT & ECU is unrelated to this topic
What kind of sound proof metal ...and name any metal that is sound proof?
Awesome explanation 👏
Nice video i love indian railway knoledge
Alco locomotives use turbo charger which are driven by the engine itself. During acceleration there is turbo lag i.e. more fuel has been injected but engine speed and turbo charger speed has not yet to picked up. That leaves some fuel unburnt causing smoke
So you mean to say that EMDs are super charged?
Thank you sir for details
Sir I would like to correct you that both Alco locomotive and EMD locomotive uses Diesel engine to run a generator which powers the electric motor in the wheel.
He also knows these Facts. Turbocharger is different from generator. I think you confused between generator and turbocharger
Sir sound different is liye hain ki four stroke dono engine hain lekin wdp4 main v type cylinders arrangments hain aur alco main in line cylinders arrangments hain dono main firing order different Hain is liye sound different Hain.
GE has produced more powerful, fuel efficient and cleaner four stroke railway engines.
Now, EMD has moved on to four stroke engines from their earlier two strokers.
The reason why Alco locos smoke heavily is, they are 1960s technology (from cam shafts, valves to fuel injection systems everything is very old), turbo spools up slowly and starts spinning only at higher RPM of the engine, no matter how much ever our CLW & RDSO refined them.
Regardless of the size of the engine, 4 stroke is any day cleaner technology when compared to 2 stroke engine of the similar era, as a four stoker burns fuel for every two rotations whereas a two stoker burns fuel at every rotation.
However, if you compare 1960s 4 stroke engine with 1990s 2 stroke engine, 2 stroke wins.
The smoke in Alco locos can be reduced by making the turbo electrically assisted, but it draws power from the alternator which is feeding the power to the traction motor.
Turbos might be FGT, does VGT spools earlier?
Very informative
Thank you sr...Mere question ka ans.. dene k ley...Nyc video and great job ...
Good Knowlage sir...
Nice information
Thnkx sir
Jisko bhi sir video achi lgi ho
Like krne se sir ko paise ₹ nhi milte lakin inko khushi hoti hain ki meri video me jo information h wo bilkul shi hain
Or sir ka mnoble bdhta hain
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Sir kisi station ke station master Ko kaise PTA chalta h ki kon Fadi aa rhi h.
Kon malgadi h kon premium train h kon passenger
Kyunki India m koi v train right time nhii chalti🤔
Please sir ek video es par bhi🙏🙏
Gangster Raj singhania bhai station mein enter karne se 2-4 km aagey guard or station master mein communicatin start ho jata hai
There is a controller in headquarter and he conveys to station master to give that train through signal or stop that in that station .controller and station master frequntly concted together .station master cannot give signal without permission of controller unless it is coaching train having scheduled stoppage
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@@locompg you are correct and one station master another station master se communicate kartha hai train keliye
How loco pilots maintain their health as diesel locomotives are very noisy, leading to headache
With disprin😂😂
Not a factor....that railway considers...
Try working in a engine room of a ship
Very good jankari sir mujhe aur jankari bhejo
ALCO engine have older technology older than 1964 in INDIA & mother company shut down in 1969.We (INDIA) have largest ALCO engine in world.EMD have more let us technology.
Sir ji aap bohot aachi tarah se samjhaate hain...har ek baat mera ek question hai ki maine bohot dekha hai ki raasta electrified hone k bawwajud...diesel engine kyun lagaya jata hai jabki...electric engine jyada kifaayti hota hai.
नाइस वीडियो बहुत दिनों के बाद आए अमित जी
Gawn gye the
Bhut ache amit sir
No matter what I am huge huge huge fan of those chugging sound and the huge black smoke that comes out. ALCO fan all the way!
Are kha bol Raha hai 4stroke jadha dhua produce karta hai our two stroke kam dhua produce karta hai. ... MATLAB kuch bhi , please do some research and then share knowledge to the other people.
Ha yar ye mere ko bhi sandheaspad laga
App thik bol rahe ho vii, but yehi reality ha.
Bhai Gajab .... 👌👌👌
Nice information bhai
Awesome Explaination...👍👍👍
Very nice video
Nice video sir. I love ALCO Locomotives.
Sir G I have a question if you are in your leisure, the answer to my question is how close the WAP5 Railway engine can take to load the entire Delhi
Nice video Sir
Alco is love ....koi bhi locomotive aaa jya ..but alco is love 😍😍
Amith ji... Thank you very much for your informative video 🙏
I need one information.
I have seen in train where they write like this. Bhavnagar-Bandra terminus-Jamnagar. How it works ?? What's the logic behind this?? How it's possible?? Hope you will clarify my doubts. 🙏
Great sir
Achhi he video
nice information
Soo Nice Sir G....
Superb. Aapka Har video ek achcha information deta hai.
Bhai best video
Excellent
Very good informative video 👌
Q-1)Diesel locomotive me kitne Liter ka Diesel Tank laga hota hai...
Q-2)Jb Diesel engine ko start Kiya jata hai tab engine me kitna Liter Diesel use hota only start hone me...
Mast ha bahi
nice video sir
EMD locomotives are 2 stroke turbo diesel engines that don't mix the air-fuel mixture well and instead blow the mixture off through the exhaust valve suddenly so the main thing is 2 stroke diesel engines pollute more, but Alco's 4 stroke engine pollutes more due to the older technology, as it may not have high precision selective catalytic converters, lean Nox trap, particulate filter and old technology Electronic control unit/module.
This is actually not accurate. The big EMD two strokes have a design which is quite different to the small two stroke engines on motorbikes that people are familiar with. The naturally aspirated motorbike engines use crankcase induction and the lubrication of the small and big ends and the pistons are achieved by premixing lubricating oil with the fuel. EMD diesels use a very different design. Unlike small two strokes, the induction doesn't happen at the crank case but via an inlet port that is above the BDC of the piston. The exhaust too is controlled by an exhaust valve. Diesel is injected into the combustion chamber only after the exhaust valve closes and so no unburnt charge escapes with the exhaust. No lubricating oil is mixed with the fuel since the piston rings keep the crankcase and combustion chamber sealed off and so the lubrication can be done exactly as with 4 strokes. This design retains the advantages of a two stroke ( more power from the same engine size), less moving parts etc while not suffering from the disadvantages ( excess pollution, very limited engine life etc) . The catch is that this engine can never be naturally aspirated and has to have either a blower or a turbo to provide fresh compressed air to the intake. Infact the turbo on an EMD I believe is directly driven by the engine at low rpms and a clutch disengages this and allows it to function as a turbo after a certain rpm. So the EMD is actually less polluting than many 4 strokes.
Nice Video
Very nice
Wah Amit thank you for the information on ALCO and EMD. Thodi aur vistaar se batate to achha hota tha.
Nice info
Thanks for such information
EXCELLENT
बहुत अच्च्छा
Awesome vedio thanks sir.
Jo bhi ho...par train lovers ko ALCO locomotive ka sound bahut pasand ata h..par ab dheere dheere ye engine band ho rahe h jese steem engine band huye...😶😐😪😥
Amazing
Turbocharging and Supercharging are two different things. Don't say Turbo-supercharged.
nice sir
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Very informative video
Like your videos.
nice video
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nice 1
Bhaijaan main aap se pahli baar koi sawaal kar raha hun please iss pe jaroor sochiyega,
mera sawal yah hai ki jab koi train kisi bde junction pe aati hai toh loco pilot ko train ko maximum kitne speed pe laane ki permission hoti hai?
please iss pe ek video bna dijiye!😊😊😊
20-30. Signal k according.... yellow signal 20-30 green full speed.....Already video upload h eske upar puri details k sath
Bhai aap ye batao ki
Baarish ke samay me electric trains ke upar jo wires hoti hai unse kisi ko bhi shock kyon nahi lagta...?
By the way love your videos..
Keep it up..😇😇
EMD is awesome. It's almost like an aeroplane. Alco's chugging sound is also good.
alco ka music mazt hai. 😍
Alco ka apna swag ha
Hello sir..... whenever an electric loco is standing at a station.... not moving...... still... it creates a loud blower like noise...... kindly help us to know what it is......
Thank you.....! All your explanations are great.....!
I suppose that, being a 2 stroke engine, EMD locomotive is less fuel efficient than 4 stroke ALCO locomotive engine.