My LS Swapped 30yr Old Italian Yacht Is Back In The Water!! - WILL IT WORK?
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- čas přidán 7. 08. 2023
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Man that sounded so sick !!!
Now I can finally stop asking you when you are going to get back to the B is for boat. your comments per videos might go down a bit. :p
Hey Chris that packing is gland seal packing the navy still uses the today it is important that you soak them in water for 24hrs before you install a little late but just knowledge for the future
The link to that AG1 stuff is broken, bud! Get them to fix it asap!
A+ fabrication team 👍
The nice thing about those 6" compasses though is that they serve as an excellent analog backup if you ever have any electrical issues that cause you to lose the Garmin GPS.
This is exactly what I was going to say. All the digital controls are fun and modern but if you have any plans for going off shore, and why wouldn't you, a mechanical compass could save your life.
Also consider an EPIRBS.
Was thinking the same thing.
I was going to post this same thing, in a digital world, and analog backup is useful during an electrical failure.
Totally, you want a compass!
@@ORRadtechDon't think he's giving to be going offshore much
He's going to be staying close to Fuel Docks !
Best thing about this channel is the perseverance of the crew to get projects done. They went against delays and lockdowns but still get the projects done.
Beat cancer, switched shops twice… can’t stop um.
@@H3110NU plus oscar did a great job
Not only all that but I read the comments on these videos and the audience can be pretty brutal with that way this channel operates. They almost always give a good explanation to things if they don’t finish. It just takes time people.
@@buildanddrive probably not honestly lol. These are fully built LS engines that should last tens of thousands of hours with VERY low maintenance and the ease of attaining the parts should be night and day. Not to say I don't question switching from diesel because I absolutely do and I am certainly interested to see real world reliability with these engines ...but I do believe it will be incredible. The LS is unstoppable when built and not overloaded
This. 👍
I’ve been keeping tabs on this project for a couple reasons. The first being that I am a Coast Guard veteran who had experience with the 902 Cummins v8s that you pulled out of your boat. They were used in the now retired 41 ft patrol boats of the 80’s.
The second is that after the CG I worked at Hatteras Yachts building a very similar competitor to yours. The Wellcraft 43’ Portofino. At that time (late 1980’s) it could be had with Crusader 454 bbc, or Caterpillar v8s. Good call with the gas vapor detectors and the engine room exhaust blowers, bilge level alarms and pumps. When adjusted correctly,the shaft seals should drip a little bit under normal conditions to ensure the seal doesn’t overheat.
My only question is how much higher in the water does it sit compared to the diesels? Great job and be careful out there on the water.
Hey Chris, long time viewer of the channel since the first BRZ. In regards to the laser etching parts, creality makes a laser head that you can replace the 3D printer hot end with the laser to etch small parts like the ones you’re referring to. Hopefully this helps if you still need to find a solution!
I would still have a real compass - just a smaller one. You need a analog backup. I would just stick a speaker there tbh.
would be cool to add starlink too ;)
I don’t know where you’re channel would be without OSCAR = EVERYONE NEEDS A OSCAR =love you guys= CONGRATULATIONS WOOPWOOP
Yes he lucked out big time getting Oscar on board.
Oscar needs an Oscar.
oscar did a great job
@@corvidflight19 i feel you there man, ive worked for people who dont appreciate everything you bring to the table. makes you feel like ass. my neighbor has multiple licenses for HVAC including his journeyman's, and his boss refuses to give him any raises, because my neighbor has a record from 25 years ago and many companies wont hire him, regardless of all of his expertise and training. literally taking advantage of someone for something they did over 2 decades ago, even tho he's the most valuable worker in the entire firm. it's disgusting.
Hey everyone apparently we are channel
Sick boat. Analog compass is a fairly good thing to have. If you aren't left-handed, you will appreciate the throttle moved to the right side. Especially in rough waters when you're really working the throttle.
Most menacing sounding yacht I’ve heard in a long time lol Congrats Chris and team. Enjoy what’s left of your boating season!
Make sure you consolidate that packing and recheck torque. DO NOT OVER TIGHTEN IT to have zero leak rate. You will smoke that packing within 30 minutes
For sure, I'd much rather see too much than too little water
@@jeffdieringer1 1 flat at a time and then monitor it. I’ve repacked my fair share of pumps and valves and replaced plenty of mechanical seals in the navy 😂.
Infrared thermometer would very helpful to prevent cooking the packing.
My only added input would be to slant cut the packing, 45°. Makes it a bit easier to get a good seal, also offset the gap each ring. Some go as far as to put them at 3rds, I have always just gone side to side. I have worked in wineries most of my life, same seals on old pumps.
One of my friends added four video cameras in his engine compartment on his boat with lighting. If he sees anything off on the instrument panel, he flicks on the video and checks everything.. may be something to add in the future as you have those heavy engine panels.
Gotta say. Knowing how different that boat now is and it still works is incredible. Way to go guys. You’ve achieved something huge here.
You and your whole team are INCREDIBLE! Love to see this dedication pay off.
"Team", AKA Oscar 😂
Oscar is INCREDIBLE.
After not seeing much boat content for a while I was a bit skeptical it would ever see water again, but holy shit you guys did it. My favorite build on the channel by far.
In regards to your button back panels. They can be remade a number of ways. The easiest being have new blanks cut out, anodized black (they look like they are just really faded) and engraved with a fiber laser. Please feel free to reach out. I can put you in contact with someone that can take on the project as well as any future projects.
Agreed. He could probably get away with using Creality laser that will replace the hot end on his K1 for the engraving. I use mine on aluminum for this exact purpose after anodizing.
Nice!
Was thinking the same. Or buy painted aluminum and laser etch them to expose the color underneath.
Possibly something send-cut-send could help with?
Can you just flip them over and use the backside ?
@@colstace2560 you could, but your expecting it to have the same black coating and you'll still need to engrave/etch them.
Great episode! It's always a good idea to have a real compass as a backup in case your chartplotter fails. Maybe not a big thing if you are staying in familiar waters but if you venture offshore, out of sight of land, it can save you!
I see soooo many projects in boat yards die. The reason: inability in overcoming obstacles. Love the "get 'R done" mentality all you guys have. Happy Cruising!
You better check regulations about the mechanical compass. You might be required to have that compass so if you have a power failure to your garmin you still know what direction your going.
Not just regs but survival, Garmin is not going to fail on a sunny calm day.
Not gonna lie, I came here for the cars, but I've been eagerly waiting for the boat content! It's awesome what you guys have been able to do with this thing, and when it's done and reliable, it'll be so much fun!
For those round aluminium labels around your switches, if they are thick enough you might be able to sand down the aluminium past the current etching, re-polish the surface to a mirror, then etch in the new label with stencils and electro-etching.
Quite likely that you're going to need new propellers, since the RPM range for those motors is totally different from what a diesel needs. Something with a lot less bite. That will fix your "too fast at idle" issue too.
i came here to comment this, thats gonna be pricey unless he can find some used props
He may be able to bank some cash back selling his old props though. Unless he can find someone that recast. I'm assuming his current props are bronze. 😊
You got it right there. Was getting ready to comment that
@@KAMIKAZEwarBEAST Does he have them on the wrong shafts? I think they should be swapped.
So the boat goes backwards when you go ahead? I don’t think that’s going to help. The shafts turn opposite from each other
You should always have a compass if all the technology dies. Pretty sure with the size of the boat you are required to have a magnetic compass on board.
Said the same thing to him, I have worked in many boats in which the chart plotters have just died and folks used the compass to get back home
Sounds bad ass. 😎👌
Hi, If you ever do any real off shore cruising with the boat that compass may be a life saver. Yes, they cost a lot of money, but imagine if you're making a crossing and your Garmin fails. It's also important to have new charts for your area. Nice boat!
Super glad to see that you guys are taking gas fume stuff seriously - great work!
For the Holley Screen protectors, Embedding a magnet in them and having it attach that way will make them a lot sturdier. Also a clean coat of filler/primer on top makes it super easy to get a smooth surface with PLA and you can easily paint them that way too!
Just a little tip/idea for the holly screen protectors , you should put in some magnets in the wood aroumd the screens , then some in the protector and itll hold them on perfectly
To help with the startup tune try and see if the Holley has a “crank fuel volume compensation table”. I have one in my motec systems and helps dial in the fuel demand based on temperature of the engine on startup so that you don’t need throttle. Many times you just need to richen it after the first 2-3 cranks of the engine and it starts a lot nicer. Especially where I run e85 it’s the bomb for getting the cold start dialed and not having to crank more than like 8 times.
There is so much that I've learned about the mechanics of boats. There are so many little sub systems that I had no idea about, so it was really cool to see you tackle all of the things. This has been one of my favorite series so far!
the whole thing really reminded me of when i played stormworks some time ago. the game looks simple but it really quickly gets pretty expansive when you're building a boat like this and realise what kinds of systems you need for it to function properly
thanks! we really enjoy learning it all too! The channel started 8 years ago with me knowing ZERO about cars and learning my way through it, this has been a fun way to get back to that base knowledge of zero and learn our way through issues. Very rewarding.
Have to remember that props are tuned according to engine rpm and boat weight so you might have to look into changing pitch to keep from overreving your new engines
No risk for overrevving right now if the boat is going too fast on the lowest speed already?
@@42Hertzer Yes, if the boat is too fast at low revs, the props are too aggressive. Whether this is fine or the engines have to work too hard and at speed will cause problems, remains to be seen. But if the boat is too fast at idle, you probably want less aggressive props - and then you need to be careful about overrevving.
@@XTJ7 the boat was not going too fast at idle. thats how it should be. There are a lot of factors that will be different when using the same props as old diesels. Engine power (obviously) gear ratio used, engine max rpm, engine torque, and any changes in weight in the boat. idle speed will not tell you if any of these will be an issue, other than the idle rpm on these engines is a little higher than the old engines.
i ordered the transmission (drop gears essentially) to reduce and equal what the boat used to have for prop speed. So we can keep the same props. I honestly dont know how fast the boat used to go at idle, but this setup seems about 10% faster, but i also havent been on any boat in 3 years, so it could be in my head. Its definitely acceptable how it is now but ill dig into it some more and include info in the next episode.
When figuring the gear ratio to match the original speed, did they account for the weight loss?
I’ve been watching since the beginning of the Datsun build so I’ve seen the boat since you bought it and it’s made me so happy that you’ve finally got it running with 2 top notch LS engines. Please don’t make the next boat episode take too long. I want to see that boat back in Portland.
who else found themselves smiling at 40:58, Nice work guys, you frigging rock. keep the updates coming, almost time to party on the boat.
Man…….I am so impressed! I definitely had my doubts when you pulled the diesel engines out but seeing you get this bad boy back in the water and under power was impressive as hell! Thank you for sharing this journey with us.
Me to but one thing I can't get out of my mind is this those 2 diesel engines fuel mileage against those 2 LSX engines fuel mileage I just can not get that out of my mind really, the yacht has a 300 gallon fuel tank I bet those 2 LSX engines don't get but maybe 5 to 7 mile per gallon combined where the 2 diesel engine probably got 12 to 15 combined Chris better not stray to far from the marina until he gets the fuel mileage figured out and boy I would hate to pay that fuel bill but although they are badass engines!!!
Chris, you should try flexible TPU filament for the screen protectors. That way you can snug them on the screens and have a smaller chance of scratching them. Great work on the boat. Enjoy it
TPU has terrible UV resistance.
Polarizing lenses will reduce glare on all of the screens.
Soft material inside of the current covers will snug them and protect the screens.
Idk why you are taking too chris, Oscar does all the work lol.
@@bmc5108 LOL way to tell us you dont know how LCDs work.
Love the boat content. Super excited for you guys with this project and looking forward to seeing future boat videos.
Chris, @ 28:30. Where you’re talking about the old compass, And how you don’t need one because of the Garmin system. I’d still suggest keeping a mechanical compass on board just as a risk mitigation for the small chance of full electrical failure ✌️
Buy the manual compass.. There's a reason why the boat has it, electronics can malfunction or get ruined/broken.
Analog compass isnt prone to electrical failure. If you have old compass they can refinish them.
The analog/mechanical compass is important to have in case you lose electrical. You can always figure out where you are if you have a total failure in your electrical system. They're pricey and always in the sun on boats and airplanes but it's better to spend the money and have it replaced than to have something else installed in its place. Two cents from a flight instructor and lifetime boater.
Cant wait to hear that thing ROAR!! :D Interrested to seeing how you can/will solve the idle speed / prob / gear speed issue :D
Please don’t stop these boat videos - have been loving them!
Ha, I was in Astoria and saw you guys cruising out. I gave a little congratulatory woohoo! Nice job guys.
Happy to see the excitement and joy. You folks knocked this out of the park! Enjoy!
Man that's awesome. Congrats guys on getting the boat seaworthy again after such a long time! Super pumped for it.
Engine bay work looks excellent. Everything looks clean. Redundancy is a great idea for bilge, and fuel vapors. Can’t wait to see how she does on full rip. Congrats on getting it back in the water. Great work by the whole team. 🎉
Engine bay doors need a glass panel window on them, or pyrex, so its just like a Lambo, make them 5" x 15" squares cut out in a 5x3 grid so that you can look into the engine bay, while closed so its a wow factor while sitting at the back with a beer.
this is the build that brought me to the channel and for sure the one that has me sticking around! so much fun to see it floating and running a huge milestone and well worth celebrating!! hope to see you down in Newport sometime it would be epic to do a run to each of the major ports along the Oregon coast 🙂
For the screen protectors I’m not sure if it’s possible but you could use some magnets in the corners and flush mount some in the dash bezel or put it behind so they stick even if they are not super tight. Just a thought!
Nice work. Happy to see it on the water. FYI if you don't already know the shaft seals are in whats called a Stuffing Box and the packing rings should be cut on a 45 degree angle with the joints staggered at 45 degrees .Don't over tighten them as that will wear a groove in the shaft. Good Luck and safe boating.
Such a rewarding episode. Wish it was about an hour longer. Hoping for more boat content.
Congratulations Chris! Hard work and perseverance pays off! I’ll stick with my cheap pontoon boat rebuilds though. 🎉🎉
Waiting for that ultimate jeep build👀
How to make those labels? Hey Chris, you could 3D print them from plastic but leave indentations or impressions for the text, then get one of those needle applicator bottles, fill it with white paint and pour/squeeze the paint into the impressions. When cured, light sand to clean any spills then layer of clear cote to finish. The lines and logos on Lawn Bowls are restored this way. Commemorative Teaspoons graphics are probably made this way.
Amazing! I've been watching this one from the beginning - lost hope for a bit but you guys came back to it and freaking rOCKEd it!
Congrats on your journey. One of the things I like about the channel is the fact that you live in Portland like us and we see familiar places and sites in your videos. I think it will be important to upgrade the sound system to something awesome so definitely put a speaker in the 6” speaker hole in the dash.
I absolutely love this project as a Boat Guy myself. It is always been my dream to LS swap my Sea ray it’s only a 25 footer But watching your videos on the B is for Boat series has given me some great motivation and plans for my boat. Thank you guys keep rockin.
Congrats on reaching the milestone of getting the boat back in the water!! Stoked to follow this journey!!
i"m actually very happy for you; because you really really work hard and had real "thoughts" about this project. and finally made it! a hard project even if it takes more time is even more rewarding than a "typical" project. happy for all the team that is going to enjoy nice tour on the boat! take care you all!
Finally! This project is how I found yalls show and have been hooked ever since! I am so excited for yall to get this boat floating again!
you've got a few 3d printers at this point. maybe consider getting a laser engraver or a mini cnc mill. you could easily recreate the switch ID plates with it. also, for doing the texture on the printed display covers, I have used the stone textured spray paint in the past with great results.
They need all that and a CNC plasma cutter to take things to a new level with fabrication.
For your compass, just buy a used one... I've seen them for 150$-500$... Magnetic compass is invaluable... I would also invest in a sonar/fishfinder to show you the depth and underwater terrain...
Lol he has a Garmin for that.
@@jerrywilcox9890 ... until the Garmin dies, friend, and you can't get your bearings.
so happy for you guys. what an effort over time. this is what it is all about. Congratulations
Wow Amazing! This has been one of my most anticipated builds on CZcams! I am not a boater but it’s just so many facets of building in one project.
Finally! Very happy to see the boat back in the water under its own power. I am Very Interested in how the sea trials go and how the boat performs now. Well done and congratulations.
So happy for you Chris, things are looking great your way.. wishing you and the crew the very best, and all the success you all deserve.
Can you send the clouds down here in central Texas? Lol. No rain for almost 2.5 months. So glad the engines had no issues and no sinking issues. Can't wait for next week's video.
I happy for you guys as well. Congrats. Been waiting to see this this for a long time.
You should tint the windshield tinting is incredibly easy. It would help protect your dash from the UV rays if you use some good ceramic tint I would recommend Lexen window tint it’s good stuff I tinted all my cars with it and it works very well.
Tinted screens and no nav lights, coastguard would immediately think you are drug runners! Seriously though tinted screens are a big nono, navigating at night you need to be able to see those unmarked lobster pots and stuff. Just because you think you are not going to be out in the dark doesn't mean its not going to happen soon.
That bend in the throttle cable bracket will eventually wear. Where the single cable is being pulled over the bent part of bracket. Not an immediate problem but need to keep an eye on it
No it won't
It's angled to make the stock cable so it's fine.
@@jerrywilcox9890 the single cable coming out of the junction box is being pulled downwards at an angle by the original throttle cable. I mean to say that the cable will wear in the cable housing, because the bracket has an angle in it, not that the bracket will wear. The single cable
coming from the housing will wear, slowly.
Was so exited for you and team, so felt your emotions and excitement about getting the boat back on the water and actually able to drive it. Been there when I lived in the Bay Area and my buddy and I brought a Bayliner Cobra back to life.
I feel your excitement. Bought a boat myself in winter this year here in Australia. The moment I got to sea-trial it was beyond exciting.
So awesome to see the boat back in the water and running! You guys did a fantastic job, and I cant wait to see the next test!
So proud to see you all getting this one whipped into shape! I almost lost hope on the boat but you all have done the impossible again!!
Hell yeah! I have loved this build so much. Thank you!
You can buy a New Zealand designed and made dripless shaft seal kits that uses a standard lip seal mounted in a cast bronze nose cone all held in place with standard radiator hose which you cut to length to suite your space.
I have used them very successfully for many years. The only thing you need to be aware of is over time the seal running on the shaft creates a small groove in the shaft and it starts to drip, it’s real easy to change the seal in the water just make sure don’t run the new seal in the grove of the old seal, all-you-can-eat need to do is put a slightly longer new hose between the nose cone and the old seal housing. Happy boating from New Zealand
So proud of you guys. This build is amazing and can't wait for more.
Just a thought about the screen protectors: What if you made the boarder a little larger to epoxy in some magnets? Then behind the panel put some metal for it to connect to.
Get the 1K compass just for the look of it. Classic yacht + classic compass = coolness + lighter pocket book
Magnets and compass do not make good neighbours.
I like the speaker idea better... just makes sense... when ur running high speed the speaker will be just enough to be able to still jam out
you are correct but small magnets near the Holly screens would not have an effect on a compass that looks to be over a 2 feet away.@@jean-pierredeclemy7032
Amazing! Great job guys!
So happy to see her flouting, well done, keep us updated please.
Worth the wait, love this build
Love your boat been waiting for you to finish this project. Waiting to find out how far you can go on gas versus diesel.❤ You most likely know this already but use epoxy paint in marine parts to prevent salt water rusting.😊
Same here. I was looking through my fingers when he pulled the diesels out. Pulling for him though!
Love seeing expanded use of 3d printing. I do an aweful lot at work and have done a lot of testing. Additional walls provide more strength than 100% infill, and in fact, strength drops rather quickly after about 37% infill. Reduces material usage and print time for future reference
Congrats mate! So happy to see this back in the water!
Buy a compass!!! It doesn’t need to be a big one but computers fail and you would regret it when you can’t figure out how to get back to shore
A lot of twin engine boats go over 5mph at idle , just put one motor in gear problem solved. also bottom paint goes bad if exposed to air so you should have redone the entire bottom paint before putting boat in the water, make sure you have diver clean it at least once a month until you pull boat out again and then redo all the bottom paint
I can’t wait for the next episode!!!!! I have been glued to these boat episodes since you started them.
Thank you for saving and restoring this classic Riva and showing the huge amount of work and cost involved!
Buy a compass.
So stoked to see the progress on this project finally reaching its peak! I hope this boat brings you guys endless hours of fun out on the water.
This has definitely been one of my favorite series
This was such a satisfying episode. The excitement at the end is contagious!
Seriously though, you need to drop the grand on the analog compass. It's a must-have.
You still need an analog compass just in case the electronics fails
Have you looked into having the old compass rebuilt?
wow guys nice work! it is a milestone to see the boat float again!
About the blowers, there should be one pair intake and the other pair exhaust... Its best practice to use a thermostat switch for those as there will be so much residual heat in the engine room after you stop the engines... They should be always on when navigating as that is the air that the engines "breath" to operate...
The boat sits so high in the water! I want to see it on plane!
So good to see the boat being finished! Lovely content guys ❤
If I remember correctly, you're required to have a magnetic compass on any vessel in the US. You may be able to just put a smaller one though
Edit: a 6" compass should be around $200-500 depending on the model. You don't have to get the exact same one that came out.
Definitely should do one in case of electric failure. 3D print an adapter for a mini
I absolutely love this series. Really nice engineering guys. A couple of thoughts while watching these videos. Make sure you use stainless screws when attaching your 3D printed GPS mount or really anything in a marine environment. I could see the old ones corroded. Make sure you seal the GPS mount or any cavity with good marine silicone. Also, a compass is kind of a necessary piece of equipment. What happens if your GPS dies? If you know your heading you can see return home with no electronics assuming the motors are functional. Never assume anything on a boat is going to work forever, I sadly know this the hard way. I would see if I could find a used 6" compass, I wouldn't run a boat without one. I have a brand new 8612 Garmin chart plotter and I can tell you the digital compass is much less accurate than my actual compass.
This is exactly what I was thinking! Electronics are prob the least reliable part of that whole boat. Hacked off the radar and don't have the original GPS. It's kinda scary even to a non-boater...people commented on that in the very first episode. 😬
Cool. That boat was my first video experience with y'all. Nice to see it come to fruition!
I absolutely love this build and love the progress. Awesome job and good luck on Sea Trials!!!
This is great! Been with you from the start of this vessel! Very happy for you! I’m very excited to hear it come unglued when you punch it! Top speed 50 mph?
Love it. Good to see u happy. Brings tears . I know what it means to have IT.
Soooo happy for you it’s a massive milestone Chris.. Super Job, my hat goes off to you all 🤙
Would be pretty sick if you could install some toroidal propellers to replace the current ones