How to Adhere Patches to Caps (Embroidery Vs. Heat Press)
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- čas přidán 27. 01. 2022
- This week on Embroidery Hub, Willy shows us how to make patches and how to adhere them to caps using two different methods: embroidery and heat pressing. He’ll also go over each method’s advantages to help you decide which one is best for your custom apparel business.
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For this project, we used:
HP-0408FC cap heat press
MT-1501
An Otto cap
75 by 11 needle
60 weight thread
E hoop
Fabric or cutaway stabilizer
Adhesive sheet
Teflon sheet
Regular scissors
Small curved scissors
Lighter
Adhesive spray or tape
Let’s discuss profit potential:
For the heat transfer method, you need an adhesive sheet that costs around $3.99 a yard and a cutaway stabilizer for $7.99 a yard. You also need a cap that usually costs $3.50, but they are cheaper if you buy them wholesale. So, your initial investment is $15.48. Because you can sell these caps for $25 and up, your profits should be $9.52. And remember, you can make multiple patches from the materials you have bought.
For the embroidery method, your initial investment would be $7.49, and if you sell the cap for $25, you’ll make a profit of $17.51.
When deciding between the two methods, it’s important to know that sewing the patch to the cap is more time consuming, but the patch will stay on longer. While with the heat transfer method, it’s a lot quicker to do, but the patch may fall off with time.
Now let’s make the patches. Hoop a piece of fabric and put it into the machine. Press File to choose your design. If you want to do two patches, choose the option to multiply your design, input two, and press OK. Make sure to give 70mm of space between the patches. Now choose the E hoop and press OK. Then, choose your color sequence, and press OK. Next, center the design, lock the machine, and press the trace button. Run the design at 1000 stitches per minute and press Start. Once the machine finishes, cut out the patches and use a lighter to burn any loose threads.
For the embroidery method, we first need to digitize the trace stitch, tack down stitch, and run stitch onto a circle file. Make the border wider by raising the pull and push compensation option to 130%. This will lower the potential for errors when aligning the patch to the trace stitch. When embroidering a patch, remember that it may get smaller, so make the trace stitch and the tack down stitch smaller than the border. With the digitizing done, go to File, choose the circle file, and press OK. Next, select the cap hoop and choose the color steps for the trace stitch and the tack down stitch. Put a frameout option on the first step so you can place the patch down. Center the cap by making sure needle #1 goes over the cap’s middle seam, then press Start. Place the patch on the cap after the trace stitch is done and press Start to do the tack down stitch.
For the heat press method, set the heat press to 380 degrees Fahrenheit for 30 seconds. Put the fabric on top of the pad to protect it from the adhesive. Place the patch face down and put the adhesive sheet on the patch. Close the heat press. Once it’s done, let the patch cool down to peel off the adhesive sheet. Now, place the cap on the heat press, put the patch on top of the cap, and place the Teflon over the patch. Press for 30 seconds at 380 degrees Fahrenheit.
And that's it! You can now adhere patches onto caps using a heat press and an embroidery machine. They each have their pros and cons, so it’s up to you to decide which one is best for you. - Jak na to + styl
Another great method to use. Thanks Ricoma!
Love this!!
Not sure how I wound up seeing this video, but I found it quite fascinating. I love stuff like this. Great content, interesting, and good teaching. Thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Nice work
Thanks for watching, Cesar!
This is so cool
Thank you for watching, Mike!
Thanks!
We got your back!
Awesome video - Just wondered why you didn't use stabiliser backing under the fabric for the badges?
Thank you for watching! Every embroidery project requires some sort of stabilizer. There are very few instances where you won’t need backing, like when embroidering stuffed animals. Some stuffed animals can be bought pre-made for machine embroidery, and will not require backing.
Thank you for sharing. Both methods are great depending on what one is going for. But I prefer the stitch attachment method for longevity and durability of the patch on the cap.
I would make the patch with a bean stitch at the outer edges, then use a heat n bond lite at the back of my patch, align it at the centre of my cap and iron it on. Then using the free arm part of my computerised sewing machine, I would use satin stitch all around the edges of the patch to secure it to the cap and also give it a clean finish.
Another way is to make sure I have the file in my embroidery machine or usb stick with the patch edge having an initial bean stitch finish as the last stitch. Then I create a satin stitch to finish up the patch attachment on the cap using the file in the embroidety machine. Having the original file in the machine will help with proper alignment and placement of the satin stitch on the patch and the cap.
Hi Annie! Thank you so much for telling us about the technique you use, we truly appreciate it!
Love your videos. We have been using the 1502 for 5 years but just started heat pressing patches on hats. The only issue we seem to have is leaving the indented / platen pattern, like a rectangle on the front of the hat. It is very difficult to get rid of it. Mostly on the 112 hats. Any suggestions?
Hi there! For the caps, you can try using these pillows before you press them on the heat press! Adding teflon paper on the top will make it look cleaner as well.
www.amazon.com/Pillow-Pressing-Transfer-Resistant-Pillows/dp/B07SYJWW56/ref=asc_df_B07SYJWW56/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=366402393359&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=3872075219214876505&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1015049&hvtargid=pla-795307238611&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=76467134295&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=366402393359&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=3872075219214876505&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1015049&hvtargid=pla-795307238611
Have you done a label and used the embroider machine to create a thick border? do you have a video on that?
Hi Chad! Great suggestion, we will pass this down to the team (:
9:42 … Hi, I love your videos, I'm new to this, could you show me how to make the circle to embroider the patch, how do I make the circle to be exactly the size of the patch? Thank you very much.
Hi there, thanks so much for watching. This is a great question to ask in our Facebook support group, Embroidery and Custom Apparel Mastery. This group is meant for all lovers of embroidery with lots of resources and more members discussing topics and helping each other out and learning about Ricoma machines and other brands! We recommend you join this group as we'd love to have you! facebook.com/groups/embroiderymastery
I don't know much about patches but would like to know the reason why do patches separate than embroidery directly first time onto the cap.
It’s more efficient to do the patches in bulk
15:20 The indentation marks in the hat caused by the lower platen. How can you avoid those heat press lower platen marks that are clearly visible?
Hi Lance, there are various way on reducing this.
Use a lower temperature: Lower the temperature of your heat press to the minimum required to activate the adhesive on your transfer material. Excessive heat can cause scorching and leave marks on the fabric.
Pre-press the garment: Pre-pressing the garment for a few seconds before applying the transfer material can help to remove moisture and wrinkles, allowing for smoother application and reducing the risk of marks.
Adjust pressure settings: Adjust the pressure settings on your heat press to ensure even pressure across the entire surface of the garment. Too much pressure can cause indentations, while too little pressure may result in incomplete transfers.
I'm using heat n bond ultra hold, my temp and time is set at 380 and 30 and my patches still want stick. What am I doing wrong??
Hi there, please send us an email so we can help: service@ricoma.com
is there any way to attach a patch with the embroidery machine onto a cap that you don't have the original file for? i tried it by putting the dimensions of the patch into chroma but it was a disaster haha.
That’d be tough because you’re essentially estimating where your outline stitch will land on the patch. It will be much harder to do vs if you had the patch design file. It could be done but will probably take more trial and error. Would recommend using the heat transfer method in that case.
What is a cutaway stabilizer when usinf heat press nethod.....and where can we buy the adhesive sheets from?
Hi there, thanks so much for watching. This is a great question to ask in our Facebook support group, Embroidery and Custom Apparel Mastery. This group is meant for all lovers of embroidery with lots of resources and more members discussing topics and helping each other out and learning about Ricoma machines and other brands! We recommend you join this group as we'd love to have you! facebook.com/groups/embroiderymastery
Can you just do a satin stitch border to attach the patch and not do the satin stitch on the patch before hand?
You could but then you have the need to be very precise and ofc the patch is not stiff, so there is a great possibility that the patch itself will move
Last but not least, it would take a lot more time to align everything
Yes you could, you would need to make sure the patch is held in place maybe with adhesives or a tack down stitch first
Great Vidieo! Did you use polyester thread? I tried it myself and the polyester-thread began to melt and became flat and shiny... Doesn't look as nice as yours...
Thanks for watching! We used 60 weight thread.
Video says that the method for using the machine is best for leather patches. Can we get a video on how to do those?
Hi! We have added the link below for one of our videos.
czcams.com/video/s1oDBrW28AQ/video.html
Just asking but what if I heat press the patch and then add a couple stitches hand sewed to keep it in place would that work?
That's an interesting idea! But, we've never tried that method. Thanks for watching our video!
If you use the good adhesive it says not to try to sew through it because it can break needles.
What type of Paper did I heat downward on the Patch before u heat on the cap plz?
Great video, as a fellow youtube creator, please add video chapter tags next time, it allow for easy access.
Thank you for the feedback!
What type of fabric did you use to make the patches?
Is it a specific type or just regular black fabric?
Hi there! There are a variety of different options you can choose from. We recommend using Twill or Polyester.
What kind of adhesive sheet do you use?
Hi Stacy! You can find lots of options on Amazon. We linked the link below for you to check out some options!
www.amazon.com/HeatnBond-UltraHold-Iron-Adhesive-Inches/dp/B000Y0083K/ref=asc_df_B000Y0083K/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=193987317966&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=9782893350890125590&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1015049&hvtargid=pla-307218345982&psc=1
I would love to promote that ricoma on my youtube channel along side my personal brand.
What is the brand of the adhesive sheet you are using? Can you use heat n bond Ultra ?
Absolutely!
@@ricomatv thank you !
What is the fabric used for embroidering the patch on?
We used regular fabric!
@@ricomatv what is the name of fabric used?
What website you use to purchase the $3.50 hats
Hi there, you can purchase these caps from Otto Caps --->ottocap.com/
What brand of adhensive?
Hi! Since we are using heat, you can use the Heat N Bond brand.
What size the needle you use? I can't get the detail with organ needle 70x11
Hi there! Were you looking to do small lettering?
@@ricomatv yes, and i use rayon threads called Double Pinguin. Im a doing it wrong ?
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Love both but going with heat press because lot faster and cheap
Thanks for responding, Ramon!
You barely show any of the digitizing or tacking it down. I can't tell if it start from the top or bottom. Did you use the Applique option, or did you manually add the run for tack down, and then manually add the satin for the border?
Hi Jonathan! This tutorial doesn't particular focus on digitizing but we have plenty of tutorials in which we go into depth on how to digitize patches. czcams.com/video/YUyxfSS8emI/video.html
Need this service I have embroidery machine need someone to out line my patches so I can embroidery them on & make patch for me point me right Direction please 💰
Hi there, thanks so much for watching. This is a great question to ask in our Facebook support group, Embroidery and Custom Apparel Mastery. This group is meant for all lovers of embroidery with lots of resources and more members discussing topics and helping each other out and learning about Ricoma machines and other brands! We recommend you join this group as we'd love to have you! facebook.com/groups/embroiderymastery
Your cap prices are insane. Where are you getting that?
Hi there, we are providing advice when it comes to pricing and it all depends on the work/time/cost of goods.
@@ricomatv right, that's the reason for my comment. Is that an actual wholesale price you get for that cap, and if so, at what bulk amount. That's important info for determining cost, your margin, and capital overlay. I have yet to find a price that cheap for a small business and especially below 12 dozen or more.
Why not just embroider the “patch” right on the hat?
There is a limit to how large a design can be embroidered. The patch can be a little bigger.
Seems like you need a little more education you say it’ll last longer The stitched embroidery that can be true because it’s stitched but the Proper Heat Press Hotronix does embroidery patches and you Can’t Remove Patch not even with a plier it will brutally take so much force that it will eventually come off but who is going to use a plier so the Heat Hat Press Patch will last just as long as the stitched. No disrespect but you can see proof of that on channel S & S Active Wear. Love You guys but Hat Heat Press is the Only Way.
Thank you for the feedback!
What kind of adhesive do you use with your Hotronix press that would make it that strong?
@@katgilbert9194 well I have the 360IQ Hotronix Hat Press which heats from the bottom at 320 and 280 on Top and forget about it once it dries you literally have to add much muscle to take off. There’s a video CZcams S & S Activewear where the CEO of S & S tries with pliers to take off the Lakers EmbroideryPatch which was Heat Pressed by the 360 IQ.
@@RamboBigPapi I saw this video too. I don't think people realize how strong these adhesives are...but I am curious how they last beyond 5 years.
1st. Logic and industry standard knowledge is stitching is more permanent than adhesive. I’m not even going to waste my time going into the physics and chemistry to prove it…But if you don’t have access to a sewing machine heat n bond is a great alternative. Ricoma is doing us a solid even showing us the process. Do what you can with the tools at hand.