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    chainsaw man chapter 167 manga review. Something happened to Denji and Asa that broke everyone. Shocked, surprised, but Fujimoto. Everything in Chainsaw man 168 will change. This is a review of Chainsaw man 167, explained, discussion, breakdown, analysis, reaction.
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  • @vianabdullah2837
    @vianabdullah2837 Před 2 měsíci +3701

    The moment Denji said he wanted sex, we all should've expected it to end in the worst way imaginable.

    • @aleisinwndrlen7113
      @aleisinwndrlen7113 Před 2 měsíci +330

      Knowing Fujimoto, this most definitely could've ended way worse than it already did.

    • @enzoarayamorales7220
      @enzoarayamorales7220 Před 2 měsíci +106

      @@aleisinwndrlen7113honestly I do think it’s gonna end really badly the next chapter like she for sure gonna rip it off next

    • @vasa_kot
      @vasa_kot Před 2 měsíci +11

      its not that bad

    • @_Lumiere_
      @_Lumiere_ Před 2 měsíci +58

      @@vasa_kot Yeah, this is pretty tame for CSM, isnt it? It's a great scene and I do really feel bad for Denji and Asa here, but it shouldnt be controversial just because we see some bodily fluids.

    • @aleisinwndrlen7113
      @aleisinwndrlen7113 Před 2 měsíci +13

      ​@@_Lumiere_ Twitter basically reacted the same way Asa did back during the falling devil arc.

  • @mattb.7079
    @mattb.7079 Před 2 měsíci +2743

    Post-nut clarity Denji is gonna be a whole different character💀

    • @akifhossain5122
      @akifhossain5122 Před 2 měsíci +129

      He finna be the GOAT 🗣️🗣️

    • @axelnebula6975
      @axelnebula6975 Před 2 měsíci

      Hell be like: UMM...well horny over. Nayuta needs saving

    • @Khann_2102
      @Khann_2102 Před 2 měsíci +37

      Or it might go the other way 💀

    • @n4ko
      @n4ko Před 2 měsíci +46

      hes gonna find illumination for like 5 minutes

    • @user-ku8yi5to4f
      @user-ku8yi5to4f Před 2 měsíci +13

      Is not the Best post nut clarity, in fact is the worst but denji never has any luck ever and asa and yoru and not the most sane not the Best looking ever

  • @Fuzzyslipperzz
    @Fuzzyslipperzz Před 2 měsíci +2565

    Denji's post nut clarity will him help lock in and look for Nayuta lol

    • @MichaelMyers87
      @MichaelMyers87 Před 2 měsíci +63

      I was thinking this as well lol.

    • @TamerJamal-op6ym
      @TamerJamal-op6ym Před 2 měsíci +28

      chapter gave me doujinshi ptsd, but it is more raw because we have followed their journey now for like 2 years i think (at least for asa).

    • @warudos
      @warudos Před 2 měsíci +18

      Yall dont know a 16 year olds sex drive. If you think this'll wake him up.

    • @INCOGNITO-iq4qy
      @INCOGNITO-iq4qy Před 2 měsíci +12

      Nah its gonna be those post nut guilt because instead of searching or feeling bad for Nayuta he doing this instead.

    • @sharavy6851
      @sharavy6851 Před 2 měsíci +8

      ​@@warudosWho said they were finished?

  • @MM-fw3wr
    @MM-fw3wr Před 2 měsíci +3537

    This chapter is going to filter out a lot of people from Chainsaw Man but I have 100% belief that Fujimoto is going to take this in a groundbreaking direction just let him cook

    • @tomasavendanozacarias5205
      @tomasavendanozacarias5205 Před 2 měsíci +150

      i just think that this has been a doujin with some shoenen fights since the beginning

    • @WeebGuru6
      @WeebGuru6 Před 2 měsíci +5

      Oh yea 💯

    • @LemanNz1993
      @LemanNz1993 Před 2 měsíci +284

      I'm actually glad that people are pissed off or getting offended by this chapter, i hope they all drop the manga, the amount of stupidity posts im getting in my time line in Twitter is absurd. It feels like we're reading 2 different mangas

    • @1922_kinda_girl
      @1922_kinda_girl Před 2 měsíci +136

      I think people are just tired of seeing Denji get sexually abused like how many times is fujimoto gonna do this💀

    • @godo4687
      @godo4687 Před 2 měsíci +37

      When I was opening this chapter I literally thought "csm is going kinda slow, but let's see if Fujimoto cooked this time"

  • @singleplayerhearts7272
    @singleplayerhearts7272 Před 2 měsíci +1183

    We aint making it to animation with this one bois

  • @badpiggy4177
    @badpiggy4177 Před 2 měsíci +1445

    I do think what happened to Yoru was interesting
    She basically felt Asa's lust, but didn't have the knowledge of how to control it
    And so she acted on it
    Obviously doesn't make it okay, just interesting that Asa and Yoru are becoming one

    • @aleisinwndrlen7113
      @aleisinwndrlen7113 Před 2 měsíci +169

      Makes sense for her to feel Asa's lust, as they shared half a brain together. As much as Asa tries to suppress it, she can't deny human nature.

    • @cream9292
      @cream9292 Před 2 měsíci +48

      i feel like asa just actually doesn't exist. Like her and Yoru are the same person. All the other horsemen have physical human forms and even after being eaten, makima just became nayuta, so it wouldn't make sense for war to need to become a fiend. Yoru is just a projection of asa with no inhibitions, which is why no one can see any difference between them and why they sorta melded together in this chapter

    • @lainsr
      @lainsr Před 2 měsíci +141

      ​@@cream9292 please never cook again worst theory i read on internet

    • @Zen-zt4uk
      @Zen-zt4uk Před 2 měsíci +15

      @@cream9292 I don't... what?

    • @cream9292
      @cream9292 Před 2 měsíci +20

      @@lainsr don't come back when my cooking turns out to be right.
      don't come back when denji decides he's done with women and becomes a femboy enjoyer.
      stay on that side

  • @salt.2650
    @salt.2650 Před 2 měsíci +1330

    Fuji the first guy to make a 2-way SA

    • @classicslayer456
      @classicslayer456 Před 2 měsíci +70

      Nah Joss Whedon did it 25 years ago

    • @kotorandcorvid4968
      @kotorandcorvid4968 Před 2 měsíci +10

      ​@@classicslayer456What happened exactly?

    • @classicslayer456
      @classicslayer456 Před 2 měsíci

      @@kotorandcorvid4968 a character took control of the main characters body and fucked her boyfriend afterwards

    • @dumflame
      @dumflame Před 2 měsíci +4

      That describes it but also doesn’t at the same time

    • @classicslayer456
      @classicslayer456 Před 2 měsíci +126

      ​@@kotorandcorvid4968 a villain took control of the main characters body and slept with her boyfriend. The boyfriend didn't know.

  • @ilikethis3203
    @ilikethis3203 Před 2 měsíci +564

    I genuinely choked and spat out Diet Coke during my read. The people around me where confused while I was choking and shouting on the train "Oh my god" and "What the fuck?"

    • @n4ko
      @n4ko Před 2 měsíci +19

      same here. im lucky I was alone because I was screaming... An only time experience reading a manga xD
      Every page went even further I truly was shouting WTF

    • @vendetta548
      @vendetta548 Před 2 měsíci +10

      they faces killing me why nby gaf

    • @Paradoxicallibility
      @Paradoxicallibility Před 2 měsíci +21

      Why is bro reading chainsawman in a train doe 💀💀

    • @ilikethis3203
      @ilikethis3203 Před 2 měsíci +7

      @Paradoxicallibility cus bro goes outside and has a job that requires bro to commute by train 💀💀

    • @Paradoxicallibility
      @Paradoxicallibility Před 2 měsíci +14

      @@ilikethis3203 No like chainsaw man is the last shonen you wanna read in public 💀💀

  • @FearlessGamer27
    @FearlessGamer27 Před 2 měsíci +746

    Never have I seen a chapter divide people like this.

  • @gustavoburciaga6200
    @gustavoburciaga6200 Před 2 měsíci +467

    This was absolutely the most Chainsaw Man chapter I have ever seen!

  • @BillRussell-tronm
    @BillRussell-tronm Před 2 měsíci +207

    I've seen alot of people saying things like "we get it denji and Asa have trauma we don't need to keep seeing it" that's not how it works. People who experience trauma are not able to just stop running into it the rest of their lives. Rather they actively seek it willingly or unwillingly because of the feelings of familiarity. Fujimoto isn't just trying to make a point he's showing the reality of life following traumatic events.

    • @ForReal_Lauren
      @ForReal_Lauren Před 2 měsíci +3

      💯

    • @kemanie74pasahii37
      @kemanie74pasahii37 Před 2 měsíci +4

      Yea people are seeing this and acting like denji is a freak or that fujimoto is a weirdo like he hasnt been building this plot from the beginning. You dont just get over getting groomed and manipulated by multiple women in a short few month time skip 😭

  • @therealeikichionizuka
    @therealeikichionizuka Před 2 měsíci +503

    the people asking for sex in chainsaw man when they get sex in chainsaw man:

    • @Marlinkz_
      @Marlinkz_ Před 2 měsíci +55

      this is in no way sex

    • @akifhossain5122
      @akifhossain5122 Před 2 měsíci +183

      You missed the 'assault' part 💀☠️

    • @therealeikichionizuka
      @therealeikichionizuka Před 2 měsíci +7

      @@akifhossain5122 true

    • @micu8942
      @micu8942 Před 2 měsíci

      But like have they just forgotten that himeno almost had seggs with a minor?
      And now that someone with the same age as denji is doing it, everyone freaks out?

    • @TheTrueJ836
      @TheTrueJ836 Před 2 měsíci +24

      ​@Marlinkz_ I mean, technically it wasn't sex, but it was a sexual act.

  • @cristianaoliveira750
    @cristianaoliveira750 Před 2 měsíci +940

    dude, poor denji, the guy is always being taken advantage of... also asa, the horror on her face when she noticed what yoru did is so sad

    • @aleisinwndrlen7113
      @aleisinwndrlen7113 Před 2 měsíci +152

      Yeah, this chapter only makes me feel bad for Asa tbh. Like, girl had no idea of what was happening, and had no control over her own body, and yet she basically had violated herself. I feel like Fujimoto is just trying to make her suffer as much as Dennis.

    • @cream9292
      @cream9292 Před 2 měsíci +28

      @@aleisinwndrlen7113 i feel like asa just actually doesn't exist. Like her and Yoru are the same person. All the other horsemen have physical human forms and even after being eaten, makima just became nayuta, so it wouldn't make sense for war to need to become a fiend. Yoru is just a projection of asa with no inhibitions, which is why no one can see any difference between them and why they sorta melded together in this chapter

    • @theamazingcowlet
      @theamazingcowlet Před 2 měsíci +25

      Don't they have a contract tho? Yoru took Asa's body under the promise that she will defeat chainsaw man with it, and although I don't think these two will ever split it is not exactly like Yoru is a 100% reincarnated devil

    • @flappyflap2693
      @flappyflap2693 Před 2 měsíci +2

      shit is funny as fuck

    • @cream9292
      @cream9292 Před 2 měsíci +19

      @@theamazingcowlet its made to mirror denji's contract with pochita, but denji had prior interaction with pochita, while asa only met yoru the moment she was dying. yoru has never been shown to be an entity outside asa, unlike denji and pochita.
      considering all that it makes me think asa actually is 100% devil since birth, like nayuta, but she's just been winter soldier 'inactive' till she almost got killed in her first devil appearance, which is when the war devil in her got activated

  • @deliii395
    @deliii395 Před 2 měsíci +673

    This chapter was great with interesting implications for the future for our 3 characters.
    1. Asa was essentially SA'd by what went down between Yoru & denji. Throughout the chapter this was the source of anxiety.
    2. Denji thinks it's Asa
    3. Yoru remembering the kiss that nayuta erased from memory and trying to connect with it.
    In conclusion, I feel like this is going to have major repurcussion. Asa & Denji have so much compatibility and chemistry, this really adds an extra layer of mess between them. This chapter also put into perspective just how dangerous it is for Asa to lose her body to Yoru. Yoru wanted to fight chainsaw man but it is now when she follows her instinct for craving love and intimacy(probably through Asa's human emotions but without the conscience/ morality of Asa) that she becomes a truly dangerous entity to Asa and Denji.

    • @simpoly6929
      @simpoly6929 Před 2 měsíci +8

      Well said

    • @johancito16345
      @johancito16345 Před 2 měsíci +48

      Like, both denji and asa where SA by yoru technically

    • @sharavy6851
      @sharavy6851 Před 2 měsíci +7

      Calling it "basically SA" feels a bit reductive.

    • @boserboser6870
      @boserboser6870 Před 2 měsíci +36

      ​@@sharavy6851denji was definitely SA'd (apart of the grooming theme) if you dont think so reread the chapter and notice how denji was disassociating after a small opposition
      Asa was forced into the situation by yoru which can be interperpreted as sa. We'll see if it's followed up though.

    • @naughtyhieroglyph669
      @naughtyhieroglyph669 Před 2 měsíci +3

      I suspect that Nayuta is still alive, and when she finds out.... Oh boy...

  • @mattb.7079
    @mattb.7079 Před 2 měsíci +288

    I think this is pretty much the worst thing that could've possibly happened for Denji, Asa and their relationship. Retrospectively, knowing Fujimoto's writing, it was bound to happen - Denji's ever-present horniness, a lost girl and a manipulative demon sharing one body... - even though it's astounding how radical he went with it. This is without a doubt the turning point of the story, this is what this whole part has been building towards up till now in the same way as Aki's death - this is the moment of brutal disillusionment when you realize things will never be the same anymore. There's this same cruelty and perversion in the writing: Fujimoto places all the elements for us to hope for the characters and their future, and then took it away in an instant. We know Asa has feelings for Denji, and the sexual attraction Yoru experienced definitely comes from Asa since they share the same brain, but Yoru's unrestrained and manipulative nature prematurely forced what should've happened naturally and thereby scarred (maybe destroyed?) their relationship forever... It's probably an unpopular opinion, but it elevated the story as a whole so much for me; it feels like the last piece of the puzzle has been put in place for us to finally understand the true point and direction of Part 2

    • @ayochayce8185
      @ayochayce8185 Před 2 měsíci +8

      I just find that chapter hot

    • @Khann_2102
      @Khann_2102 Před 2 měsíci +34

      ​@@ayochayce8185Is this Denji's alt account?

    • @ayochayce8185
      @ayochayce8185 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@Khann_2102 excellent question 🤔 🤣🤣🤣

    • @dari9345
      @dari9345 Před 2 měsíci +22

      I completely agree with you. I feel people that see this chapter as bad, are taking it at face value, lacking the whole context and the deepness of what just actually happened. It's not meant to be taken as a fetish or something good, it does have a purpose for the story and it wasn't out of the blue either.
      I also don't see why people are so divided by this chapter, it may be pretty explicit visually, but regular body fluids are nowhere near as gross, for example, the vomit scene, which was at the start of part 1, waaay before Chainsaw Man actually became pretty popular, so I don't see how this interaction was the turning point, when it's not as gross as other things we've seen. It's a great chapter because of what it implies for the story, and I don't really think people are seeing what it's supposed to mean, they are just seeing the freaky interaction at face value and calling the manga weird for that.

    • @niten1ryu
      @niten1ryu Před 2 měsíci

      dawg he showed the cream 💀💀💀‼️‼️

  • @animeanxiety
    @animeanxiety Před 2 měsíci +195

    It’s crazy how with the insane scene happening I was for some reason super fixated on Yorus weird reaction to it all the most. You’re on point with your breakdown of her potential identity crisis rn!

  • @Travis_20098
    @Travis_20098 Před 2 měsíci +349

    That actually describes pretty well how chaotic first sexual interactions between teenagers are, for some it may be uncomfortable or unexpected, but it really isn't that surprising, especially for Chainsaw Man

    • @IMRTLDAN
      @IMRTLDAN Před 2 měsíci +27

      Yeah i feel like alot of the ppl complaining about this chapter are just children lol

    • @soysource3218
      @soysource3218 Před 2 měsíci +22

      @@IMRTLDAN
      For some reason they also haven't read Chainsaw Man before reading chapter 167 because this is Fujimoto's usual pacing and antics.

    • @murderman8578
      @murderman8578 Před 2 měsíci +6

      Never had a sexual experience as a teenager

    • @Travis_20098
      @Travis_20098 Před 2 měsíci +23

      @@murderman8578 I'm sorry (?) but what I was referring to is in general they're very rushed and chaotic, enjoyable and everything, but not exactly romantic, in first person my first experiences were kinda fucked up

    • @Empty58931
      @Empty58931 Před 2 měsíci +1

      You really don't have to remind me of that... I was the same age as them drunk on the beach late night after a party with a not even attractive girl and kinda did that but with roles reversed...

  • @mostfa1158
    @mostfa1158 Před 2 měsíci +249

    That image will be stuck in my mind for a long time, i want it gone 🙂

    • @aleisinwndrlen7113
      @aleisinwndrlen7113 Před 2 měsíci +9

      Thankfully the next chapter drops next week, so... fingers crossed.

    • @mostfa1158
      @mostfa1158 Před 2 měsíci +60

      @@aleisinwndrlen7113 next chapter will be aki looking at denji from heaven and saying"that's my boy "

    • @kaiiheenjik1668
      @kaiiheenjik1668 Před 2 měsíci +12

      I watched through evangelion before reading chainsaw man, this is light work.

    • @IMRTLDAN
      @IMRTLDAN Před 2 měsíci +3

      Lol you shouldnt be reading the manga if your underage lmfao😂

    • @mostfa1158
      @mostfa1158 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@IMRTLDAN im 18 bro, this year at least

  • @SadBirbHours
    @SadBirbHours Před 2 měsíci +79

    The lack of media literacy I've seen surrounding this chapter has actually caused me to lose sleep.
    Yes Denji was SA'd
    Yes Asa was SA'd
    Yes it was messed up.
    Yes thats the point.
    Yes a running theme throughout the entirety of Chainsaw man is Denji being manipulated and abused by older women.

    • @vomilksined8047
      @vomilksined8047 Před 2 měsíci

      Will ask Denji what he thinks about it in next chap 😂

    • @mikey.love.
      @mikey.love. Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@vomilksined8047 Yeah well he can barely comprehend what happened in the next chapter

    • @chocolatemuchie8403
      @chocolatemuchie8403 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Like in the context of this: art is either suppose to comfort the disturb or disturb the comforted

    • @goawaygosh
      @goawaygosh Před 2 měsíci

      Fujimoto once again inserting his fetishes into his story. Based mangaka is based.

    • @rafesarafesa8097
      @rafesarafesa8097 Před 2 měsíci

      You know perfectly well that the SA issue will not given any kind of importance in the manga.

  • @matthewmellott1856
    @matthewmellott1856 Před 2 měsíci +138

    Fire Punch is exactly why I feel this wasn’t as surprising for me.

    • @markk217
      @markk217 Před 2 měsíci +26

      Chainsaw man part 1 is exactly why I feel this wasn’t surprising to me 🤷‍♂️

    • @irecordwithaphone1856
      @irecordwithaphone1856 Před 2 měsíci +23

      ​@@markk217People were reading part 1 with the same blindfolds Makima used on the convicts

    • @soysource3218
      @soysource3218 Před 2 měsíci +6

      @@irecordwithaphone1856
      The manga was building up to this point for ages and people were still surprised 💀
      To be fair it was probably more the pacing that surprised them as in how quickly it escalated.

    • @SunnysideFiend
      @SunnysideFiend Před 2 měsíci +3

      Fire Punch didn’t have much of the assault *shown* though, and same with Fujimoto’s other works.

  • @rygornspectre7142
    @rygornspectre7142 Před 2 měsíci +309

    For the people who "didn't" see that coming ...
    We readin' the same manga?

    • @aleisinwndrlen7113
      @aleisinwndrlen7113 Před 2 měsíci +30

      I expected it to happen at some point, but not this chapter, that's for sure.

    • @Tobias-Smith
      @Tobias-Smith Před 2 měsíci +27

      I expect something like this, tbh I thought worse, but what I didn't expect was it to go straight to it next chapter instead of some banter in-between the scenes about it. Just caught me off guard with how immediate it happened

    • @uroboloss
      @uroboloss Před 2 měsíci +31

      I didn't see it coming. It's not out of place for Chainsaw Man or any of Fujimoto's work but I wasn't expecting it at that moment.

    • @Bleeblooplu
      @Bleeblooplu Před 2 měsíci +4

      The manga has been a little slow these past couple of chapters so my expectations were very low. I did not see that coming

    • @bluefrenk1750
      @bluefrenk1750 Před 2 měsíci +4

      We all saw him coming what u mean

  • @cedricwine
    @cedricwine Před 2 měsíci +131

    I was laughing while reading this manga not because of the story.
    I laughed because i imagine the faces of lin and everyone at mangaplus when fujimoto give the draft.
    I bet fujimoto gave a more graphic draft and this one is the is the tamest.

    • @AB-dd4jz
      @AB-dd4jz Před 2 měsíci +6

      Knowing he draws doujin on his off time It's quite possible

    • @Bigblackguynumber9
      @Bigblackguynumber9 Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@AB-dd4jz he does?

  • @reiq4976
    @reiq4976 Před 2 měsíci +257

    I just feel so much dread for Asa especially because She's the ne most in danger of being completely erased and isolated in conversations just like how both Denji & Yoru don't percieve Asa's consent. Denji cause he doesn't know that's not Asa. Yoru cause she doesn't care.

    • @MamaJoe-bl7vv
      @MamaJoe-bl7vv Před 2 měsíci +49

      Yoru is low-key the most terrifying villain in csm. Also, Yoru is the only one at fault in this situation.

    • @allrightformugiwara2656
      @allrightformugiwara2656 Před 2 měsíci +43

      Idk, i think that when yoru kissed denji it's also because she shares the same emotions as asa, as a part of yoru want to kill csm and asa try to save denji, they have a lot of flaws but i think the last panel when we see that asa is back with yoru's eyes definitly means that they probably for the first time felt the same way and had the same goal as at the exterior they are just one

    • @aleisinwndrlen7113
      @aleisinwndrlen7113 Před 2 měsíci +9

      ​@@MamaJoe-bl7vv I'm a bit torn between her and Fami. But Fami does have some good intentions at least, and she does seem to genuinely care about Denji and Asa to a degree. Yoru is literally just hell-bent on getting her revenge.

    • @aleisinwndrlen7113
      @aleisinwndrlen7113 Před 2 měsíci +2

      ​@@allrightformugiwara2656 Or maybe it's just like a transition effect to signify Asa regaining control.

    • @cream9292
      @cream9292 Před 2 měsíci +3

      i feel like asa just actually doesn't exist. Like her and Yoru are the same person. All the other horsemen have physical human forms and even after being eaten, makima just became nayuta, so it wouldn't make sense for war to need to become a fiend. Yoru is just a projection of asa with no inhibitions, which is why no one can see any difference between them and why they sorta melded together in this chapter

  • @TheoVorster
    @TheoVorster Před 2 měsíci +69

    To further add onto the idea that Yoru/War has experienced some loss of identity, there's also the fact according to Yoru, Pochita/black Chainsaw Man previously devoured a part of War/Yoru when they last fought. So one could also view Asa as sorta completing and filling in what Yoru/War had previously lost. The nature of Asa and Yoru's situation, instead of the typical approach to possession narratives that treat the parties involved as separate individuals, could arguably now be better conceived of as analogous to like dissociative identity disorder, with Asa and Yoru being like alters of the same person.
    Also if anyone has read the comic "Saga" by Brian K. Vaughan and Fiona Staples, that comic also proposed the idea that the opposite of war isn't peace, but rather its opposite is "fucking"/making love. What you brought up in today's video reminded me of that.

  • @user-vf8yr6hh1u
    @user-vf8yr6hh1u Před 2 měsíci +120

    They keep SAing my boy 😭 Leave him alone!

    • @incognito5416
      @incognito5416 Před 2 měsíci +1

      He liked it tho

    • @Apaxqt
      @Apaxqt Před 2 měsíci +10

      Look I’m not into chainsaw man but bro was clearly being manipulated

  • @onewingednugget7366
    @onewingednugget7366 Před 2 měsíci +38

    I really kinda hope asa will tell denji the truth about Yoru. Our poor guy needs to at least know that if he didn't consent it wasn't asa.

  • @Mr.Eggthreal
    @Mr.Eggthreal Před 2 měsíci +28

    Denji losing his virginity quite literally made it more popular than JJK, Burrito, MHA finale and epilogue, and One Piece. Denjis climax is more popular than the climax of JJK 💀💀💀💀

  • @UliTroyo
    @UliTroyo Před 2 měsíci +41

    Also, I liked the detail that when Yoru loses control of the knife, it shrinks into a smaller pocket knife.

  • @OneLuckyStriker
    @OneLuckyStriker Před 2 měsíci +405

    It's very telling how disgusted people are by this chapter, but Denji suffering all sorts of abuse and going to literal hell is fine and okay. I believe people are being hypocritical because they don't know how to deal with scenarios that we can all relate to, to a certain extent

    • @SunnysideFiend
      @SunnysideFiend Před 2 měsíci +53

      SA hits a lot closer to home for a lot of people than most of Denji’s trauma. And people who haven’t experienced it aren’t necessarily talking about this chapter with much tact. That’s why people are “over”reacting.

    • @scarf550
      @scarf550 Před 2 měsíci +124

      @@SunnysideFiend Yeah but the thing is denji has been SA'd multiple times and nobody really acted like this.

    • @ayochayce8185
      @ayochayce8185 Před 2 měsíci

      For real

    • @ayochayce8185
      @ayochayce8185 Před 2 měsíci +12

      ​@@SunnysideFiend I just know that it's fiction...SA is not a joke however sometimes for plot if that's there...Then let Fujimoto cook

    • @ayochayce8185
      @ayochayce8185 Před 2 měsíci +23

      ​@@scarf550FUCKING EXACTLY

  • @ComposedSage75
    @ComposedSage75 Před 2 měsíci +97

    Been waiting on your video on this. Yoru went for what Asa was too scared to do. She remembered the kiss she had with Denji cuz she felt affection for him. She doesn’t understand those feelings so it all kinda exploded the way it did.
    I do feel bad for Denji cuz he did envision finally getting to do that but not in the way he expected. He was basically SA’ed. Asa wasn’t in control so Yoru did it against her will. Also: *Evangelion reference* at the end.

  • @welmorfianvm4039
    @welmorfianvm4039 Před 2 měsíci +60

    First thing next chapter, Denis is getting slapped in the face by that same hand, mark my words

    • @denji4740
      @denji4740 Před 2 měsíci +9

      Lmao 🤣 I can’t I just imagined it too.

    • @ashester2276
      @ashester2276 Před 2 měsíci +4

      this aint the average romance anime/manga
      lol, asa wouldn't slap him

  • @jajes711
    @jajes711 Před 2 měsíci +28

    I love this chapter even though it’s a difficult read. Chainsaw Man isn’t a fairy tale and Denji and Asa most likely won’t get their fairy tale ending. The hardest part now is the aftermath and seeing how Fujimoto handles this. Sexual assault is a sensitive topic so I hope he doesn’t glaze over it and play it off for laughs.

  • @mrstickmantas
    @mrstickmantas Před 2 měsíci +33

    Mappa is gonna go CRAZY with this 💀

  • @mycah925
    @mycah925 Před 2 měsíci +41

    honestly, it's so funny seeing all of the different reactions. like, i never read past volume 1 of Fire Punch and even i knew that this was some real Tatsuki Fujimoto shit. like, you can REALLY TELL who has read Fire Punch, Fujimoto vs who has read Look Back or Goodbye Eri, Fujimoto

    • @justapassingbycommenterrem5642
      @justapassingbycommenterrem5642 Před 2 měsíci

      The amount of mindfuckery my mind went through with powerpunch, nothing more can surprise me from fujimotor tbh

  • @Chrisdish
    @Chrisdish Před 2 měsíci +52

    Would you say Denji made love not war...
    Or love to war?

  • @MoMbarek250
    @MoMbarek250 Před 2 měsíci +41

    ONE OF THE CRAZIEST CHAPTERS
    fr tho, i did NOT expect that lol

  • @enzoarayamorales7220
    @enzoarayamorales7220 Před 2 měsíci +14

    Sufferants I just love how you make things sounds more chilled out than they actually are

  • @BiggieCrescent
    @BiggieCrescent Před 2 měsíci +60

    HOLY SHIT EVANGELION REFERENCE 😭😭😭🙏🙏🙏

    • @tngaming50
      @tngaming50 Před 2 měsíci

      EVANGELION WW2 FLASHBACKS!!!

    • @Redofreko
      @Redofreko Před 2 měsíci +1

      this fr boutta be the start of the evangelion philosophical psychoanalysis ahh era of chainsaw man

  • @yueqiiz
    @yueqiiz Před 2 měsíci +20

    it was so uncomfortable and i did not like it, i believe that was the purpose, so it was a good chapter since it achieved what it intended to.

  • @user-ue2lj7gk4d
    @user-ue2lj7gk4d Před 2 měsíci +21

    How this gonna get animated 😭💀💀

    • @pegeta
      @pegeta Před 2 měsíci

      with a lot of unqiue censoring

  • @coelacant871
    @coelacant871 Před 2 měsíci +27

    Ayo identity disorder theory? You sound like my therapist (im so sorry)

  • @-unknown7908
    @-unknown7908 Před 2 měsíci +30

    I WAS WAITING FOR THIS VIDEO ALL DAY

  • @recantedforger5850
    @recantedforger5850 Před 2 měsíci +2

    @Sufferents I'm not familiar with current CSM, but another author of the series Saga, Brian K. Vaughan touched on this idea awhile back. He depicted an author in his own story with experience in war and how he coped with life by writing using a coded method after discovering his own antithesis of war, which wasn't peace or love...but sex. He wrote steamy love stories, most just called erotic trash, but had an undertone of dealing with war and completely dismantling it. It was a pretty interesting concept when thinking about it the first time.
    Taking life in the name of an passion
    Creating life in the name of an passion
    It always takes more than 1 person(we're talking sex not sexual gratificaiton)
    You typically question stopping halfway through either of them
    The ideas just go on and on.
    Just a cool sidepiece I thought I'd throw out if you're interested

  • @thedude-nf1uf
    @thedude-nf1uf Před 2 měsíci +16

    Didnt have the semen demon or devil on my bingo card

  • @takanara7
    @takanara7 Před 2 měsíci +7

    Yoru as a name isn't intrinsic to the war Devil, Asa found it awkward to keep calling her 戦争の悪魔 (Sensō no Akuma - literally 'demon of war') so she told Asa to call her Yoru, so it really is just a pun on Asa's name. But deeper then that Yoru's identity as "yoru" is intrinsically tied to her connection to Asa.

  • @Tricky-tl4bl
    @Tricky-tl4bl Před 2 měsíci +9

    No I completely thought of the same thing with the merging, lowkey this is a 3 way SA since pochita as well💀.

    • @Axodle
      @Axodle Před 2 měsíci +1

      I wonder what pochita was thinking in this scene.

  • @kingofthe_humanz8285
    @kingofthe_humanz8285 Před 2 měsíci +7

    I just wanna point out that Yoru remembered what nayuta programmed her to forget. i think having a strong enough love for someone lets you resist control devil and maybe even fami's abilities. President Power was also able to resist control because of her strong love for denji, so maybe since Asa (and by extention Yoru cuz they feel the same emotions) loves denji so much it allowed them re-remember that date night.

  • @alejandroxd6418
    @alejandroxd6418 Před 2 měsíci +7

    i've always thought Yoru chose that name because "Asa" means "morning"
    So "night" is opposite to "morning", Yoru is opposite to Asa

  • @cyborgcuttlefish6326
    @cyborgcuttlefish6326 Před 2 měsíci +8

    after reading this chapter, i was so excited for the video you were gonna drop

  • @NapstaMeme
    @NapstaMeme Před 2 měsíci +6

    1:34
    _Speaking of hands in pockets_

  • @NewtSplinter
    @NewtSplinter Před 2 měsíci +2

    "Make love not war!" Dear god...

  • @jrk1666
    @jrk1666 Před 2 měsíci +13

    Bro lasted 27 panels

  • @blacklark3546
    @blacklark3546 Před 2 měsíci +4

    I actually had a similar theory before this but this is really good
    Asa could just be a representation of a split personality, that asa actually has always been war demon all her life, she just came out upon the time she had to use her power to heal from death

  • @thetruestar6348
    @thetruestar6348 Před 2 měsíci +8

    I’m glad I don’t get CSM p2 leaks/spoilers chapters hit harder that way

  • @VampireA1056
    @VampireA1056 Před 2 měsíci +23

    What a climactic chapter

  • @con.x
    @con.x Před 2 měsíci +2

    This is how DID works sometimes. Trauma is deeply related to a Disassociative System. And sometimes during an "encounter" one identity will switch out to manipulate the another identity. Identities are supposed to protect, but they are also individuals with desires and sometimes want to hurt each other ("themselves?") ... It's very complicated, and bound to trauma. The Integration portion is also a thing. less common, but sometimes... also being unsure of names, or feeling conflicted about a name. They are and are not, the person they say they are, each identify knows they are "Host-name" but also themselves. And even after integration it's not always clear. a Fractured mind, is always fractured, even if you glue the parts back together, and all the parts are "fronting" ... we all have this, we are just so used to it, we dont even realize. The voice telling you to keep pushing, while the voice in your head is saying no, I cant do it. Which voice is you? Maybe both? ... And when doctors sever the left-right hemispheres of the brain, the two brains decide differently... and maybe always did. Our brains are so much more complicated than we think, weve just evolved to just accept it all without realizing it. Children who experience Trauma are forced to realize it before their brains stop being un-settled on that idea. And so they can separate "me" from "other me"

  • @menkaragamble8175
    @menkaragamble8175 Před 2 měsíci +7

    I didn't get the feeling war was "in control" during the scene.

  • @saldinhoeywa1664
    @saldinhoeywa1664 Před 2 měsíci +7

    Never was more curious about your analysis

  • @Ducky190
    @Ducky190 Před 2 měsíci +2

    The kid was taken advantage of yet again. My boy's story is so so damn tragic! It wasn't a good experience for him what so ever. Sure first time experiences can be kind of awkward in the beginning when it comes to sex, but the reaction that Denji gave after was what made me feel for my boy. Who knows how he will be after this. He just looked so damn dejected on that train ride.😢

  • @thecanadianfood
    @thecanadianfood Před 2 měsíci +7

    So people are trying to claim that Asa was a victim of what Yoru did too but also claiming that Asa and Yoru are becoming one.
    So if they are becoming one, then what they did to Denji was something that both Yoru and Asa both decided to do, in which case Asa wouldn't be a victim as well. Or am I understanding this wrong?

    • @bigjim9956
      @bigjim9956 Před 2 měsíci +1

      To me it seems like the “becoming one” thing is just speculation atm since we dont have enough info.
      I think the next 2 chapters might clear things up

    • @SpinDuality
      @SpinDuality Před 2 měsíci +3

      Yoru and Asa still have independent thought and individuality during and after the situation so it's pretty clear that Asa did not decide to do it too.

  • @jj6184
    @jj6184 Před 2 měsíci +6

    I like the idea of there 4 horsemen’s goals being the opposite of what they represent for control she wants a relationship for famine she is gluttonous and for war in my personal opinion she wants love as love is kind of the opposite of war and the usually go together in the saying love and war

    • @patrickdali4063
      @patrickdali4063 Před 2 měsíci

      But Love is war🤓
      More seriously, a better opposite to love would be indifference rather than war imo.
      And for war, Peace.😊
      Though, as many as interpretations they might be, your theory of them seeking the opposite of what they stand for is quite solid.

  • @the-micreb5876
    @the-micreb5876 Před 2 měsíci +3

    I think the idea of the “singular being” is really interesting and there’s a really good case for it. If we look back to Ada’s dream with all the chicken corpses, that might be the future she sees for herself once entangled with Yoru, the chicken being a callback to Bucky, the first life she ever took. This is even further compounded in chapter 112 when Asa says she’ll “turn someone into a weapon” as she steps on a chicken, with Yoru smiling. This is the first instance of ASA becoming like Yoru, with many more likely to come.

  • @matilozano96
    @matilozano96 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Ever since the "So, this is love" scene (or however it was, whenever Yoru figured out Asa was catching feelings for Denji and Yoru was affected by it, it felt clear to me that Asa and Yoru were sort of merging.
    You could possibly make the case that Asa becoming more assertive could also be related to that.
    When it comes to the name, I think War picked Yoru just to spite Asa. Since you're Asa (Morning), I'll be Yoru (Night). I'm everything you're not, your polar opposite. It's like a Jekyll and Hyde thing, or a Bruce Banner and Hulk thing. Maybe once they merge they'll start calling themselved Shogo (noon), but that doesn't sound like a woman's name, so I wouldn't bet on it lol

  • @LxAxV
    @LxAxV Před 2 měsíci +5

    Bro said “I think about this chapter “ 😂

  • @greyworld6242
    @greyworld6242 Před 2 měsíci +9

    And it broke us good!
    Make love not war!

  • @UrAvrgSmoker
    @UrAvrgSmoker Před 2 měsíci +15

    LITERALLY MODERN SHINJI IN HOSPITAL ROOM SCENE

  • @gorditacrunch5168
    @gorditacrunch5168 Před 2 měsíci +4

    I saw this in a comment, can’t remember who it was so sorry about that but it brought up something I completely forgot- Nayuta used her powers to erase the first time Denji and Yoru/Asa kissed, and she seemingly started to remember that, meaning Nayuta’s powers may be fading. Denji in his post-nut clarity might notice this and be locking in next chapter basically

  • @foryossimodicarbonio9703
    @foryossimodicarbonio9703 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Holy Cow, I almost forgot that the kiss was supposedly erased from their memory

  • @mrm0nty550
    @mrm0nty550 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Yoru's name was picked in opposition to Asa's. Until the contrary is shown, to me it's a name she picked on a whim simply because Asa's name means "morning". There's also no proof that War has done this before and there's no precedent of other devils taking over humans like she does. Violence is the closest we get and we see that his hosts memories had an effect on the resulting being's personality. Basically, Asa and Yoru merging together is the unforeseen consequence of taking over Asa but basically keeping her alive as a sort of partial fiend and might be the reason why other devils don't take over humans like this.

  • @Redofreko
    @Redofreko Před 2 měsíci +1

    nah this fr boutta be the start of the evangelion philosophical psychoanalysis ahh era of chainsaw man

  • @sleepylady2723
    @sleepylady2723 Před 2 měsíci +1

    a new core memory for our little denis

  • @Thesleepytimes
    @Thesleepytimes Před 2 měsíci +12

    My problem with this chapter isn’t Fujimoto(although I have several other problems with that man), it’s with the CSM community. Because there is a sizable amount of men in this fanbase that can’t handle depictions of Male SA victims properly. I’ve seen way too many people say that this chapter was a win for Denji when this is the third time in the series where he has been SA’d. And it kinda makes it hard to be in this community when you know there’s people who’re so disgusting about how the series treats Denji.

    • @cokesucker9520
      @cokesucker9520 Před 2 měsíci

      I think the issue is that SA implies more than what actually happened.

    • @spoofs974
      @spoofs974 Před 2 měsíci

      That's the anime/manga community as a whole alot of people have porn brain even the writers

    • @justinmccluney8962
      @justinmccluney8962 Před 2 měsíci +3

      I totally agree with you on all that but I do think that Denji wanted it when Yoru started kissing him. Not that that just makes jt okay tho for her to do that to him with no consent ☠️

    • @3self
      @3self Před 2 měsíci +1

      This situation isn’t black and white and is more complicated. Of course people differ in opinion. Like Denji going back in for a kiss, may cause some reader to feel conflicted

    • @BeansLive567
      @BeansLive567 Před 2 měsíci +1

      this is reminding me of berserk when there are still idiots on the community saying "griffith did nothing wrong" or "casca enjoyed it" and im like oh yeah history is repeating itself once again.

  • @Wegboe
    @Wegboe Před 2 měsíci +12

    Could it be that when Yoru got the flashback because nayuta's curse to forget the kiss ran out? I would think if it hasn't run out up intil now, there has to be a reason for it dissapearing, maybe she's been killed at that moment or too weak to keep the infliction up?

    • @mazus9398
      @mazus9398 Před 2 měsíci +10

      Angel and Aki briefly broke free from Makima's control in the past when they experienced strong emotions.

    • @aboodsaad8790
      @aboodsaad8790 Před 2 měsíci

      @@mazus9398 and power resist makima control because of strong emotion to denji

  • @hudibaba
    @hudibaba Před 2 měsíci +2

    8:25 that transition is so foul XD

  • @neworker4885
    @neworker4885 Před 2 měsíci +2

    When you mentioned every horsemen wanting something the first I thought of for yoru id love. war is a very brutal affair with loved ones being lost on both sides. So just like control who wants a family not brought to her by force and famine has a essentially never ending hunger, war craves intimacy and love and thats why she got so passionate with denji and makes weapon on how much the object means to the host

  • @happyphiri4237
    @happyphiri4237 Před 2 měsíci +5

    Are you gonna make future videos on choujin x ? I'd like to hear your thoughts on it so far

  • @OhNoItsBo
    @OhNoItsBo Před 2 měsíci +3

    videos like these are why you will always be my favorite creator to cover CSM. keep up the good work!
    honestly i half expected her to cut it off and turn it into a weapon

  • @dablazingbryan5559
    @dablazingbryan5559 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Denji gets traumatized and gets a Baki power up at the same time.

  • @THE_Number_ONE_1_HATER
    @THE_Number_ONE_1_HATER Před 2 měsíci +1

    8:21 it’s so much harder to take your video seriously when you’re playing this in the background😂

  • @cyberbullysc
    @cyberbullysc Před 2 měsíci +11

    WOOO OH YEAH BABY THATS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT

  • @axeljejeje5294
    @axeljejeje5294 Před 2 měsíci +15

    Denji will feel good after this and will want more/take it to the next level. People crying about Denji and how would feel do not really get his character at all, not even yourself. Fumiko herself did something similar, go check out how traumatized denji was

  • @stopmotionmaker6222
    @stopmotionmaker6222 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I wasn't keeping up with Chainsaw Man but this just popped up, I'm at a loss for words.

  • @warlockholmes
    @warlockholmes Před 2 měsíci +1

    Switching out and seeing nut on your hand gotta be the most disturbing thing in this entire chapter.

  • @SamTheGumMan117
    @SamTheGumMan117 Před 2 měsíci +3

    What a cumtastic chapter, and it certainly broke something lol Fujimoto pushing even further beyond what's possible in SJ and unironically was a great chapter

  • @remudalxl2413
    @remudalxl2413 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Peak writing

  • @samflood5631
    @samflood5631 Před 2 měsíci +2

    To quote Gambit from X-Men 97: “Gambit can never unsee that.”
    Or to quote Marcelle from Delicious in Dungeon: “Woah Hey!”

  • @zeroturtle-bu7zb
    @zeroturtle-bu7zb Před 2 měsíci +2

    YOU DELIVERED BROTHER,
    When I think about, the scene links up some between Eva and Csm. Both of the climaxes occurred at someone else's expense. In Eva it was Asuka and CSM it was Asa.

  • @1922_kinda_girl
    @1922_kinda_girl Před 2 měsíci +4

    I will continue reading but I’ve been in full belief since the start of part 2 that the story had fell off and fujimoto had already made a 8 - 9/10 manga with pt 1, pt 2 hasn’t shown me its purpose to exist yet, the ending to part 1 was perfect imo and I would’ve been find with the open endedness of the new control devil Nayuta. I hope the death devil will be cool and reignite my interest for the story.

    • @StrayTato
      @StrayTato Před 2 měsíci

      Fujimoto envisioned Chainsaw Man in 3 acts. So I would say Pt 2 definitely has a direction.

    • @1922_kinda_girl
      @1922_kinda_girl Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@StrayTato 3 acts would indicate different parts of a whole, I felt and I think most fans agree that part 1 was a fully realized story by itself, if there is really a part 3 after this then I definitely think Fujimoto is milking the story. In regards to how part 2 has been I like Asa and Denji’s dynamic and his relationship with Nayuta but the chainsaw man church arc was genuinely all over the place and I didn’t like it more than a single arc from part 1, the other new characters aren’t charming at all, Hoshida is decent everyone else I really don’t care at all about, well Katana Man is kinda funny but I have no idea what the direction is with his character lol.

    • @StrayTato
      @StrayTato Před 2 měsíci

      @Bkr0507 Naw I don't think so. I think act 3 might be about an adult Denji. Maybe the whole core of the story is about following Denji in different phases of his life. I'm enjoying the ride.

    • @Jesus.christ.your.bro.
      @Jesus.christ.your.bro. Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@1922_kinda_girlpart 3 could just be a new story with Denji I could imagine it like season 2 of Vinland saga cus realistically I see part 2 ending horribly like everyone dying and then it’s a complete tone shift in the story considering pt2 has been way more lighthearted

  • @tobiferrer2339
    @tobiferrer2339 Před 2 měsíci

    Can't wait for "that" scene to be animated..

  • @slugcatsat
    @slugcatsat Před 2 měsíci +2

    Gege cooking Yutagojo then Fuji cooking these pre-nut / post nut clarity. I am f*king cooked through and through.

  • @freddieflanders4886
    @freddieflanders4886 Před 2 měsíci

    When people get back from war there is always a huge spike in babies.

  • @Ackoeppeltheone
    @Ackoeppeltheone Před 2 měsíci +1

    im glad i took a break from chainsaw man

  • @mall0wfluff
    @mall0wfluff Před 2 měsíci +1

    Denji is relatable in the worst way possible which is why every time he gets taken advantage of I can barely stomach it

  • @wheels_offortune2654
    @wheels_offortune2654 Před 2 měsíci +1

    bro this guy has the darkest voice like hes talking about some presidential scandal with the damn memes in the background 💀

  • @kevincomplex
    @kevincomplex Před 2 měsíci +2

    this chapter got more comments than any other chapter in the first few hours of the release💀

  • @Horrormaster13
    @Horrormaster13 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Can't wait for the anime adaptation in 2030 xD
    Chainsaw Man has its own The End of Evangelion moment now.

  • @Redpandadoood
    @Redpandadoood Před 2 měsíci +1

    If you look really closely during the chapter you can see (or at least it looks like) Yoru eyes change back n forth from normal eyes to her devil eyes, as if Yoru and Asa are switching back n forth during the kiss. I may be wrong because the drawings for the eyes are somewhat similar but definitely different at some parts of the chapter.

    • @meh9150
      @meh9150 Před 2 měsíci

      It was Yoru during all the kissing, then changed to Asa while/after denji cums (lol)

  • @gregtso7505
    @gregtso7505 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Let them get filtered, those who understand know the actual depth of the chapter.
    Denji needs fulfillment and actual acceptance from another person. He's just underdeveloped socially and doesn't understand the differences between love/acceptance and sex. Not to mention him being lusted after/manipulated for him being Chainsaw man, not for him being Denji.
    So now this case he and Asa both get sad, which furthers the whole "Denji getting manipulated/groomed by women" but now it has an extra layer of depth that the normal role of the perpetrator is also a victim. So now their relationship, what little there was, is thrown off the rails entirely.
    Probably explained it poorly, but yeah, I'm in for this wild ride.

  • @blckorb6322
    @blckorb6322 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I never thought they would make the reference to that one scene…. But here we are

  • @cruzen1313
    @cruzen1313 Před 2 měsíci +1

    8:25 Sufferents Brother, I like your in-depth analysis but when you add something like this I lose it 😆 🤣 lol