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  • Winston Churchill and the Bengal Famine
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Komentáře • 458

  • @utathya23
    @utathya23 Před měsícem +42

    I'm a huge fan of Mr. Murray and I agree with him on every issue, but this conversation is nothing but gaslighting! I LIVE IN BENGAL, SO I KNOW WHAT REALLY HAPPENED as some of the affected people were still alive until a few years ago! The famine was a combination of three main factors namely, war-time disruptions, natural disasters, and vile & cruel colonial policies. Bengal was (and still is) the biggest producer of rice in India and it was our state that fed the entire British Indian Army, the Allied Forces in Southeast Asia, and certain Allied Forces in Europe. We had more than enough stockpile from before to feed us for years. This could be corroborated by records of the British Indian Army's Quartermaster General's Department in 1944 (a year before the war ended). SO, ALL THE RICE THAT WAS NEEDED TO ALLEVIATE THE CRISIS, WAS PRESENT RIGHT HERE! It was OUR food, and it was munched upon by foreigners who had no claim to it. Yes, there was a severe flood in 1942, but if food could have been sent to Europe, it certainly could've been sent to the people who sowed the seeds. I know that sons are not responsible for their father's sins, but the fact that astonishes me is that some British people just won't own up and admit to the fact that some of their ancestors were pure evil.

    • @nodruj8681
      @nodruj8681 Před měsícem +2

      Living there doesnt mean you know what happened

    • @utathya23
      @utathya23 Před měsícem

      @@nodruj8681 And you do I suppose! Any idiot can look into "convenient data" and pass their narrative. But we, as rational Bengalis tend to prefer information that is based on cold/hard facts and logic! So the next time you decide to pass a comment, my dear sir, maybe you should think twice before you sound like an ill-informed idiot!

    • @utathya23
      @utathya23 Před měsícem +12

      ​@@nodruj8681 And you do I suppose! Any idiot can look into "convenient data" and pass their judgement to fit their own narrative! But, us Bengalis tend to look into cold/hard information and use logic before passing judgement. Hence, the next time, my dear sir, you should think twice before writing a comment like this, which quite frankly is in poor taste. Many people take things too seriously these days, but since 3 million deaths were involved, a little bit of sensitivity would go a long way!

    • @vatsal7640
      @vatsal7640 Před 28 dny +1

      @@nodruj8681 exactly!!

    • @ratulxy
      @ratulxy Před 26 dny

      How do you even agree with murray on other issues? He is the most racist and vilest filth I have ever heard.

  • @r.ssumedh7626
    @r.ssumedh7626 Před 8 měsíci +130

    Absolute bollocks! After knowing that millions were dying, he wrote "why hasn't Gandhi died yet?"

    • @Bobmudu35UK
      @Bobmudu35UK Před 7 měsíci +8

      Most people had racist attitudes in those days, including Ghàndi.
      If Ghàndi was alive today,after the things he said about Africans,he'd be cancelled.
      Search for positive things Churchill said about Indians,I think you'll be surprised.
      He was a grumpy,reactionary man.

    • @franchk8372
      @franchk8372 Před 7 měsíci +4

      @@Bobmudu35UK ... and was known for his quips and acerbic wit. I think we have become too scared to say anything at all that might be deemed 'offensive.' I think we have become very thin-skinned, something my father warned about many years ago.

    • @KT-ke3nl
      @KT-ke3nl Před 7 měsíci +4

      @Bobmudu35UK
      What gandhi said about africans ?? Can u elaborate ?
      Gandhi had his problems but definitly was not a racist.

    • @rup54
      @rup54 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Yes, he was! Do your own research.

    • @CLARKE176
      @CLARKE176 Před 6 měsíci +2

      Truth hurts doesn’t it when it doesn’t fit your narrative.

  • @Globalme24
    @Globalme24 Před měsícem +22

    WW1. 1.5 million Indian soldiers 2.5 million indian soldiers fought. British MF never acknowledged it

    • @Arthur-rl1cj
      @Arthur-rl1cj Před 4 dny

      Not Indians; mercenaries did....

    • @Globalme24
      @Globalme24 Před 4 dny +2

      @@Arthur-rl1cj wrong they were paid soldiers in the British army.

    • @Arthur-rl1cj
      @Arthur-rl1cj Před 4 dny

      @@Globalme24 nope, under British occupation, they were slaves/ mercenaries......
      Currently, some Indians are fighting in Ukraine ....what do you call them? mercenaries.....
      Did Ceylonese fight? Hardly.... Have you ever heard about Cocos island mutiny? Also, how Ceylonese let the Japanese attack the RAF airbase in Ceylon?

    • @Arthur-rl1cj
      @Arthur-rl1cj Před 4 dny

      @@Globalme24 because they were never " soldiers"; they were mercenaries.....

    • @Arthur-rl1cj
      @Arthur-rl1cj Před 4 dny

      @@Globalme24 tbh, those Indians should have served Indians & fought for Indian/ south Asian independence .......are they considered heroes in India? Nope; Do they commomerate WW2? Nope

  • @dominicphillip5816
    @dominicphillip5816 Před měsícem +16

    If Churchill believed in racial hierarchy then one has to conclude his views were not to different from the Nazis, except he wasn’t anti-semitic.

  • @soodabhi
    @soodabhi Před 2 měsíci +11

    Famine in Bengal
    Vs
    Famine in Ukraine
    Churchill vs Stalin
    If India becomes rich- nobody will deny massacre of Indians like they don't deny the Holocaust. There is no talk of British atrocities in Africa - Kenya because their children are still poor

  • @maheshprabhu
    @maheshprabhu Před rokem +158

    Fact is that Churchill was openly racist and had little empathy for Indians. He did nothing to help people during the Bengal Famine. Was the famine his fault? No. But he had the power to reduce the number of deaths in the famine. But he chose to do nothing and in my opinion that is evil.

    • @NikoBuraitoPinku2024
      @NikoBuraitoPinku2024 Před 9 měsíci +4

      @@JohnSmith-iu3ui
      Negacionista británico promedio:

    • @vin00ify
      @vin00ify Před 8 měsíci +27

      Exactly. The simple fact is that most white British people who ran the British Empire in India, including Churchill, simply viewed India as a resource to be exploited. Most British people didn't have an all out hatred of Indian people like how the Nazi's hated the jews. The British simply didn't care about Indian lives. They were apathetic and indifferent towards the safety and wellbeing of the Indian population. The only thing Britain was intetested in was making sure that the money was rolling into Britain from India. Of course It didn't help that many traitorous Indians at the time, turned on other Indians and idolised and hero worshipped the British in the hopes of getting wealth, status and power as well.

    • @LorenzoMichettoni
      @LorenzoMichettoni Před 8 měsíci +9

      @@JohnSmith-iu3uihe took action in 1944, when the damage was already done. It is you that are taking Churchill actions out of context: the three years before he did NOTHING, blaming indians for “breeding like rabbits”

    • @spearfisherman308
      @spearfisherman308 Před 7 měsíci +8

      ​@@LorenzoMichettonino he couldn't do anything they were fighting the Germans and the Japanese had defeated the royal navy in the Pacific.

    • @wft15
      @wft15 Před 6 měsíci +4

      Technically speaking all western countries, especially the US- have the power to potentially stop many conflicts around the world, but who are we to get ourselves involved in foreign conflicts and waste taxpayer money on others whilst our own starve.

  • @JoyP09
    @JoyP09 Před 2 měsíci +15

    Ohh Britishers... Bunch of nice loving cuddly people who went half the way around the world to India to be friends with them and rule them for their betterment only 🥲.

  • @ofAwxen
    @ofAwxen Před 5 měsíci +58

    The British forced Bengal farmers to grow opium instead of food.
    The opium was sold in China.
    This made the British-caused famines in India worse.

    • @CLARKE176
      @CLARKE176 Před 5 měsíci +3

      The Japanese invasion was one of the main factors that caused the famine by severing the supply lines. Along with corrupt Indian officials who kept the best food for themselves and not sharing them out.

    • @ofAwxen
      @ofAwxen Před 5 měsíci

      @@CLARKE176 cope all you want with that fabricated, denialist nonsense. Britiain will bite the dust into irrelevancy and you'll go with it.
      It's Karma

    • @mudra5114
      @mudra5114 Před 4 měsíci +2

      The British did not force Indians to grow opium. India was a opium exporter from the time of Emperor Akbar. The Indian kingdom of Malwa was exporting opium to Chona independent of the British.

    • @mudra5114
      @mudra5114 Před 4 měsíci +1

      ​@@CLARKE176yeah, but the Japanese were not directly responsible for it.

    • @CLARKE176
      @CLARKE176 Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@mudra5114 they were one of the main reasons for cutting of the main supply road in Burma.

  • @s.12330
    @s.12330 Před měsícem +7

    During entire British and company rule India had many many man made famine because of the policies due to which 30 to 40 million people died but after India got Independence not a single famine occurred in the history of independent India.

    • @nodruj8681
      @nodruj8681 Před měsícem +1

      This is due to Western technological advances adopted by india

    • @s.12330
      @s.12330 Před měsícem +3

      @@nodruj8681 No Its because of genuine concern of government for people.

    • @sandeepr2087
      @sandeepr2087 Před 18 dny

      ​@@nodruj8681 if you have democracy you have to protect them from starvation, give shelter etc. something Britishers failed miserably. Holomdor was a famine created by stalinist policies. Famines in central India, South Indian and Bengal was created due to British imperialist polices.

  • @jadenalmeida8592
    @jadenalmeida8592 Před 6 měsíci +24

    This guy should debate Shashi tharoor

    • @swetapatel8996
      @swetapatel8996 Před 4 měsíci

      Tharoor is mentally ill person still living in the past .. Congress has made the country hell.. I wish Britishers could have ruled at present atleast Islamics could have got the best lesson of the life.. Indians are incapable of handling them

    • @billtensus
      @billtensus Před 3 měsíci +4

      J sai Deepak would be better. Harsher!

    • @grn-mq2qh
      @grn-mq2qh Před 20 dny

      @@billtensus J Sai Deepak has no sense of humor though. You gotta slip the knife in with a smile.

  • @TR-lb4om
    @TR-lb4om Před 11 měsíci +60

    I wish Churchill and his Victorians were alive today and notice what happened to his great empire and how without any help from it the so called colonies and their subjects were developed and thriving.

    • @vatsal7640
      @vatsal7640 Před 9 měsíci

      I wish Indians perhaps try to read to read a history book .
      Once in a while

    • @NikoBuraitoPinku2024
      @NikoBuraitoPinku2024 Před 9 měsíci

      @@vatsal7640
      Mejor a los británicos que son negacionistas de este genocidio.

    • @vatsal7640
      @vatsal7640 Před 8 měsíci

      @@NikoBuraitoPinku2024 English??

    • @CLARKE176
      @CLARKE176 Před 6 měsíci +6

      How India has amongst the largest homeless population on Earth and responsible for alot of the Earths carbon admissions?

    • @rup54
      @rup54 Před 6 měsíci +5

      Thriving? Then why are many trying to migrate to the West?

  • @ayanchakraborty7444
    @ayanchakraborty7444 Před 12 dny +3

    Can't believe they are defending Churchill, I had immense respect for Mr. Murray before seeing this, I guess it's true that Britishers won't change and will always try to defend and not acknowledge their bloody past, as a Bengali I will never forget that how inhuman Britishers were and it was a genocide, a cold one, curse to the British empire

  • @Sunil-zd4iv
    @Sunil-zd4iv Před 6 měsíci +12

    Churchill might have been incapable to help in bengal famine but his hate is evident in desiring balkanisation of India when British left.

  • @pauldh62
    @pauldh62 Před 5 měsíci +12

    Six pages for three million people. I can only marvel at Andrew Roberts' powers of synopsis. A typhoon? Churchill comes under scrutiny because critics of his policy in India at this time cite orders he gave for the destruction and requisition of rice supplies following the fall of Burma and British fears that if left they might be seized by the Japanese and that it was this that caused the famine. I trust those six pages will adequately answer this point.

  • @allowit328
    @allowit328 Před měsícem +2

    A handful of submarines (there were never that many) in the Bay of Bengal is enough reason to not send food to India but almost the entire German Kriegsmarine and Luftwaffe targeting British Atlantic convoys means we have to make sure the food gets through to Blighty. The general health of Britons actually improved under rationing as the Government ensured everybody got a fair amount.
    Also, the Japanese occupied Thailand 18 months before the cylcone struck Bengal and occupied Malaya six months before it did. The British authorities had at least 6 months to find other food sources for the Bengalis but they didn't.
    In the long form version of this interview Roberts compares the Amritsar massacre of 1919 with that the one that happened in 1984. And I don't know why he would do that. The former was done by colonial troops against unarmed protestors and the latter was done by the Indian Army against armed militants. Why would an honest person compare the two? An honest person wouldn't.

  • @ultimatekombat01
    @ultimatekombat01 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Completely wrong. The truth is Bengal famine happened due to natural causes of course. But to help the people of Bengal the other parts of India prepared food which was to be sent to the Bengal but evil Churchill knowingly diverted that food to the war. so the food that was meant for the people of Bengal he stole that food and diverted it. This is the truth you can verify this on chatgpt and Winston Churchill was well aware about the famine but still he stole the food of people of Bengal.

    • @vatsal7640
      @vatsal7640 Před 25 dny

      Chat gpt????????????
      What ???????? 😂😂😂😂😂 🤦🤦
      Are you fcking serious???????

    • @ultimatekombat01
      @ultimatekombat01 Před 25 dny

      @@vatsal7640 why are you shocked buddy. Do you not trust chatgpt

    • @vatsal7640
      @vatsal7640 Před 25 dny

      @@ultimatekombat01 of course not.
      You do realise that chat gpt is an AI which brings results from various unknown sources right???
      It has many inaccuracies and biasis.

    • @vatsal7640
      @vatsal7640 Před 23 dny

      @@ultimatekombat01 of course not. it's not accurate.

    • @ultimatekombat01
      @ultimatekombat01 Před 23 dny

      @@vatsal7640 If you don't trust chatgpt what makes you trust this guy. Well in that case you can verify the information that I have written above in multiple history books and academics journals. The one book that I would refer to verify this information is Freedom at Midnight" by Larry Collins and Dominique Lapierre - This book, written by two French authors, covers the partition of India and its aftermath, which includes the Bengal Famine of 1943. In this book the Bengal Famine is discussed primarily in Chapter 15, titled "Famine and Fury. You will find the same thing that I have written above that is Churchill was a thief in fact the whole British Empire was thief. They stole the food which was meant to go to Bengal.

  • @sowmyanr
    @sowmyanr Před 3 měsíci +7

    False narration. He triggered this famine by not allowing Australian ship to dock.
    And he took food away from India and this excuse of him not being able to move food into India is what is rubbish.
    Rewriting history here.

  • @nakulnarotham
    @nakulnarotham Před 3 měsíci +6

    The biggest Gaslighting of this generation.. 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @Droidzonegamer
    @Droidzonegamer Před 2 měsíci +3

    Duffers are also allowed to write books

  • @nishantchhoker9528
    @nishantchhoker9528 Před 2 měsíci +3

    We can make same arguments for stalin and mao aswell.

  • @durgacdks
    @durgacdks Před 2 měsíci +1

    We are really trying hard to not hold any grudge against the present English country for their past atrocities, but you guys are not making it easy. The British were shipping all the grains from india to their island of a country, and for that the sea route was safe and unaffected by the WW2, but it was impossible to transport the food within india from one state to other because of Japan. Right? There were those famous railroads you hypocrites, they could have used the same indian railway to supply food to bengal which they use to extract all the resources from india.

  • @shekontekon9799
    @shekontekon9799 Před 10 dny +1

    So as per this video, he grew up in an extremely racist society, thought of Indians as ghastly people and was in power when this scenario presented itself. Add the above to the fact that he still prioritized to stockpile surplus food instead of sending it to the dying people. Still this man says, he was innocent and Douglas just accepts the answer, that's just shameful. If the Woke us bad and stupid, the right is still following the policies of the forefathers, just not brazenly.

  • @dhrubajyoti
    @dhrubajyoti Před 22 hodinami +1

    🇮🇳 Every fellow Indians, please report this video as "misleading"

  • @fourkeys9235
    @fourkeys9235 Před 6 měsíci +37

    indians were too warm and believing and european and islamic invaders took advantage. people of european races colonized the world far beyond europe and continue to colonize USA Canada Australia, Nz, wiping out those native cultures.
    British historians claim to have brought railways and "civilazation" to India. India slowly and surely broke-out of the british "help".
    Mughal Invaders claim to have brought culture and architecture from their lands, yet there are zero taj mahals and paintings and libraries in Afghanistan. It looks shady, and likely that temple-wealth-looters painted themselves as holy-warriors to escape being branded as thieves and robbers. and most of them stayed back too because their own country was terrible.
    India in its own way magically breaks out of these selfish invader mindsets and expresses itself.
    Fascinating.

    • @desiputtar89
      @desiputtar89 Před 5 měsíci +5

      Taj Mahal was built by Raja Jai Singh, not Shah Jahan. Shah Jahan simply acquired Taj Mahal later on. We are taught lies by liar historians.

    • @dalane5196
      @dalane5196 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Yeah lucky the British were there other wise India would not have a taj Mahal either, it was been used as a rubbish dump when Lord Curzon saved it for posterity and India.

    • @fourkeys9235
      @fourkeys9235 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@dalane5196 nope .. it was too big to steal and take away to british museums

    • @dalane5196
      @dalane5196 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@fourkeys9235 It would have been demolished except for the British, they thought was worth saving the local Indian populace couldn’t care less about it, they used it as a tip. They saved it and restored it to its grandeur and gifted it to the Indian nation along with a lot of other stuff. India itself is a British creation, without Britain India would not exist, even a cursory glance at history books teach you that. but of course today ignorance reigns supreme, who cares about facts, so long as you can feel your own truths.

    • @RR-pc7yv
      @RR-pc7yv Před 2 měsíci +2

      ​​@@dalane5196 This is BS. Already, the Maratha ruler Mahadji Shinde was giving stipends for the maintenance of Taj Mahal in 1780s-90s, at the request of his French General Benoît de Boigne. This was before the British takeover/conquest of the Delhi-Agra region in the Anglo-Maratha War of 1802-06.
      So your claim that local population (and rulers) didn't give a damn about Taj Mahal and its preservation, is pure BS.
      Yes, Brits did a lot preserve Taj Mahal and its beauty. So what? They did that and used it as a picnic spot for their top dogs aka top-level figures. Similarly, there are instances of British demolishing and ruining India's historical buildings and artefacts too. So there were all sorts of people....

  • @iloveatish
    @iloveatish Před měsícem +1

    If these guys had any balls they would bring in representatives from the country of the victims.

  • @rishi_6266
    @rishi_6266 Před měsícem +1

    The whole of India and particularly Bengal region is perhaps the most fertile region on earth with abundant rain. India don't need import of food but it is the colonial British who usurped land killed our Agriculture industry by forcing people to grow industrial cotton to opium and whatever food was grown Churchill diverted it for its war effort. He is a first rate criminal who deliberately triggered and killed millions with Bengal famine.

  • @temporaryusername2075
    @temporaryusername2075 Před 2 měsíci +1

    🤔"He believed in hierarchy of races" doesn't match with " there is a leap of faith that he was responsible..."
    Yes he "didn't wanted people to die in millions"
    But there is no leap of faith in saying ' he was willing to let the inferior races die and not put indian lives higher in their priorities '.

  • @chanaihabru3694
    @chanaihabru3694 Před 7 dny +1

    British can't handle one Rishi Sunak and imagine if India colonized Britain. 🤣🤣🤣

  • @vinishshetty8055
    @vinishshetty8055 Před 20 dny

    British Holocaust, Australian ships where regularly carrying wheat and docking in kolkata, But there was strict instructions not to unload wheat, This person is lying.

  • @pauldh62
    @pauldh62 Před 5 měsíci +4

    From my research the famine was down to a number of factors, a form of blight on the rice, a typhoon, Indian rice sellers upping the price, the self governing government of Bengal not alerting the colonial government in Dehli in time. There is some debate over whether or not they were overruled by the colonial government. Churchill is criticised for not giving India more food, but actually he had not the authority to do so given his job description. We cannot overlook, however, that the British government through the colonial government in Dehli requisitioned rice and stockpiled it for British forces, and elsewhere in starving Europe as required by British legislation. Supplies were also destroyed to prevent them falling into Japanese hands. My own conclusion on this is that Churchill doesn't entirely escape scrutiny. He could have done more, he had influence, he did exacerbate matters by restricting shipping to India, but look at what he was up against. Moreover he did not have the right information at the time to act effectively. To act at all in a famine you really have to organise provision well before it hits. Countries that could have helped were occupied by the Japanese.

    • @becd4888
      @becd4888 Před 4 měsíci +4

      The difference between the Western right and the Indian right are that the West is the most powerful, they are known to be the cornerstone of civilization, but any criticism of their superiority is seen as blasphemy by the Western right. No, they're just 'superior' and utterly perfect, there should be an endless echo chamber of their superiority and the superiority of the british empire and no way to balance it out. They want to re-establish their 'superiority'. They're no underdog.
      With the Indian right, it is meant to balance the way Indians are known as and portrayed as inferior, but the media simply reinforced that. For example, though the caste system has always existed, there was much more social mobility. The later ultra hereditary caste system was solidified by the Mughal administration and then the British (who made a few laws against lower castes), but no one even knows that.

    • @williamvorkosigan5151
      @williamvorkosigan5151 Před 4 měsíci

      And Churchill did more than you list. He begged the US to help with convoys. He did try to get food in from Australia. There was that thing called the Second World War going on and Japan Submarines were sinking shipping heading towards India.

    • @williamvorkosigan5151
      @williamvorkosigan5151 Před 4 měsíci

      The Famine was not the fault of the Filthy British and the Filthy British did a great deal more to relieve the famine than Indigenous profiteering Indians did. It is a mark of immaturity for people to try to lay blame for things at the feet of people that they don't like when if anything it was their own fault. India and Pakistan's ongoing desire to lay all their ills at the feet of the Filthy British is tiresome, childish and not a little racist.

    • @Asianboy1
      @Asianboy1 Před 3 měsíci

      Pretty unbiased in my opinion

    • @pauldh62
      @pauldh62 Před 3 měsíci

      @@Asianboy1 Churchill was racist, there is little doubt about that and had some pretty unpleasant views. History will I think quite rightly hold him to some extent responsible for the deaths caused by the famine. Some say he was as bad as Hitler. No he wasn't, and I really wish they wouldn't take this line because it makes light of the evil done by the Nazis. Hitler purposed the deaths of millions writing suffering into the plan. Churchill and the colonial system through ineptitude exacerbated an already bad situation. It's quite staggering how ramshackle the colonial system could be. We should see this from the Bengali point of view. After enduring back breaking work, families gather what meagre harvest nature granted them after blight and typhoon, only to see a bunch of foreign squaddies march onto what little land they had and take most of it, destroy and steal it before their eyes. What conclusions would we draw, if this were done to us?

  • @leisurejain7835
    @leisurejain7835 Před 4 měsíci +5

    Why doesn’t he has real discussion with Indian historian as well
    Of course the west only believes what they think or know is the only sole truth…..But I dare him to discuss this same topic with swami Subramaniam (he was a professor at Harvard as well so well equipped with western culture and tone as well)

    • @vatsal7640
      @vatsal7640 Před 3 měsíci

      Lmao he would destroy any indian historian in a debate.
      Why do Indians believe that they know all about history??
      Why do they have so much arrogance??😒

  • @jessicali8594
    @jessicali8594 Před rokem

    Was WSC responsible for the ANZAC debacle at Gallipoli on April 25th, 1915 ?

    • @CLARKE176
      @CLARKE176 Před 6 měsíci +1

      He wasn’t the only one remember. Also the Brits suffered heavier casualties than the Anzacs.

    • @traditionalfood367
      @traditionalfood367 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@CLARKE176
      Numerically perhaps, but most certainly not as a percentage of population, which is what matters.

    • @CLARKE176
      @CLARKE176 Před 4 měsíci

      @@traditionalfood367 throughout ww1 the percentage of the British population who were casualties were mich higher than the Anzacs.

    • @traditionalfood367
      @traditionalfood367 Před 4 měsíci

      @@CLARKE176
      WW1 overall.
      This thread is about Gallipoli, April 25th, 1915.

    • @CLARKE176
      @CLARKE176 Před 4 měsíci

      @@traditionalfood367 where the British suffered heavier casualties.

  • @udayjamatiamusic
    @udayjamatiamusic Před 3 měsíci +4

    churchill decoded ( church+chill) ....he was an arctic dog which barked at the bengal graves.....his family members should come down to bengal and spend the rest of their lives in ashrams.......prayashchit, prayashchit, prayashchit

    • @vatsal7640
      @vatsal7640 Před 2 měsíci

      Why???😂😂😂
      Are you some sort of religious messiah?

    • @udayjamatiamusic
      @udayjamatiamusic Před 28 dny

      @@vatsal7640 aap ki tareef......seems robot

    • @vatsal7640
      @vatsal7640 Před 28 dny

      @@udayjamatiamusic go see a doctor.

    • @udayjamatiamusic
      @udayjamatiamusic Před 28 dny

      @@vatsal7640 paid fanatic.....kitna masla mila......musuk sipak.....mendek k ch...t

  • @abhaybisen8175
    @abhaybisen8175 Před 2 měsíci

    If you don't accept the grave mistake and sorry for it. Then Cycle of karma will take you down, no wonder why streets of Britain now having fear of extremist.
    British did not care for any Indian and so was the case with Churchil , he was a mass murderer and did bigger crime than Hitler.

    • @vatsal7640
      @vatsal7640 Před 25 dny

      That's the typical excuses indian racists make to justify hatred.
      Streets of Britain are filled with extremists today because Britain didn't listen to Churchill.
      Churchill was anti immigrant and anti islam , so you're indirectly proving this guy right.

  • @abhirupdebnath8696
    @abhirupdebnath8696 Před rokem +5

    Thank you Andrew Roberts

  • @rangarajannarasimhan9288

    Why are you to say that? You were not here damn it. I live here and so did My ancestors. I trust what they saw. Typhoon in Bengal is not new. There were no drought that year and crops never failed. Bengal famine was 100% man made and credit must go to British. Were yiu guys starving also when those poor souls died of hunger. Have you seen picture of people who died that time? Just skin amd bones. Have you seen picture of mother and her new born died while she holdingbher baby to feed and there is no milk in her breast. She died holding her new born which was also dead in her arms. I don't hate the brits of today foe what your ancestors did. But if you defend what your people did, you will invite wrath of GOD. Your whole country's built on the blood money from colonies

  • @KalyanChakravarthyJagarlamudi

    Shame on you sir for misrepresentation of the real facts. Kindly read the book by Dr. Tharoor, who ironically received his higher education in your country.

    • @vatsal7640
      @vatsal7640 Před 25 dny

      So just believe the word of a corrupt congress man who is accused of murdering his wife ????
      Sure buddy 🙄🙄.

  • @vedanshmishra8803
    @vedanshmishra8803 Před 16 dny

    😂😂😂😂 fools discussing facts and denying them

  • @Guf7f6d5s5dfuigoh
    @Guf7f6d5s5dfuigoh Před 9 dny

    Accept it.criticise it.move on.thats it thatss all u had todo😊

  • @ShivamKumar-gv9fx
    @ShivamKumar-gv9fx Před měsícem +4

    Total rubbish.. so called historian don't know the history

    • @vatsal7640
      @vatsal7640 Před 25 dny

      And you do ????🤣😂😂🤦🤦

    • @ShivamKumar-gv9fx
      @ShivamKumar-gv9fx Před 25 dny

      @@vatsal7640 yes i do.. more than you 😘😘

    • @vatsal7640
      @vatsal7640 Před 24 dny

      @@ShivamKumar-gv9fx lmao 🤣🤣
      I haven't said anything.
      But ok , keep living in division.

  • @prithviprakash1110
    @prithviprakash1110 Před rokem +54

    This guy arguments are so apologetic and he failed to dismiss a single claim.
    Over 3 million Bengalis died in that famine. Several academic studies corroborate it as manufactured one. Denying this is akin to denying Hitler's role in the holocaust and pinning the blame on "the times".
    Simply put Churchill was a racist imperialist.

    • @nezbrun872
      @nezbrun872 Před rokem +14

      Then you didn't watch the video. You might learn something, rather than having your mind being smothered by your own dogma. Nowhere was it denied that the Bengal Famine "denied".
      There was a typhoon. The rice producing countries where the British had traditionally sourced rice from at times of famine were now controlled by the Japanese, as was the Bay of Bengal.
      How do you think supplies were going to reach Bengal when the Japanese held all the cards?
      Simply put, you have no idea what you're talking about when you rely on politically motivated revisionism to control your opinion.

    • @JohnSmith-iu3ui
      @JohnSmith-iu3ui Před rokem

      @@nezbrun872 not to mention, Japanese notions of racial superiority of the time would of resulted in tens of millions of Indians being killed had they won at Kohima or Imphal.

    • @prithviprakash1110
      @prithviprakash1110 Před rokem +1

      @@nezbrun872, I've read this perspective and also seen the video. It is clearly biased.
      It appears that you have fed a state-controlled version of Churchill that paints him in a favourable light and whitewashes his crimes. I would suggest you read peer-reviewed studies on this matter instead.

    • @prithviprakash1110
      @prithviprakash1110 Před rokem +8

      @@JohnSmith-iu3ui I'm sure there's some video out there that justifies Hitler's actions too. I wonder if that makes it credible.

    • @JohnSmith-iu3ui
      @JohnSmith-iu3ui Před rokem +7

      @@prithviprakash1110 you didn’t watch the video I sent did you ?

  • @MichToJoshya
    @MichToJoshya Před 2 měsíci

    insufficient !

  • @thomasriedel7583
    @thomasriedel7583 Před rokem +54

    Bengal Famine denier.

    • @noreply-7069
      @noreply-7069 Před rokem

      Worse than Holocaust denier!

    • @TheNightBadger
      @TheNightBadger Před rokem +14

      _"I don't think there's any Churchill historian who denies that a terrible famine took place in which millions of people died..."_

    • @TheNightBadger
      @TheNightBadger Před rokem +4

      @@noreply-7069 _"Worse than Holocaust denier!"_ - Why?

    • @JohnSmith-iu3ui
      @JohnSmith-iu3ui Před rokem +13

      He’s right though . Churchill didn’t cause the famine, accept it .

    • @Vootmodapk
      @Vootmodapk Před rokem +3

      @@JohnSmith-iu3ui then why did he say they breed like rabbits?? So he love indians?? why gandhi not died these are his words tell me about it??

  • @CLARKE176
    @CLARKE176 Před rokem +7

    What about Roosevelt? Shouldn't he be condemned as a mass murderer as well for supporting the allied bombings of Europe and Japan?

    • @williamvorkosigan5151
      @williamvorkosigan5151 Před rokem +3

      think you miss the point. Roosevelt was also a straight white male.

    • @CLARKE176
      @CLARKE176 Před rokem +5

      @@williamvorkosigan5151 what's race got to do with this? Isn't that remark you made racist?

    • @williamvorkosigan5151
      @williamvorkosigan5151 Před rokem +3

      @@CLARKE176 Nope. My point is that people are doing their best to bring down the hero's of western liberal democracy. Some people are perfectly happy to bring down Truman for dropping the bomb in Japan (and try to do so). Roosevelt as well of course.

    • @williamvorkosigan5151
      @williamvorkosigan5151 Před rokem +9

      @@CLARKE176 Just to be clear. The British Empire was the greatest net force for good the world has ever seen and quit possibly ever will see.

    • @CLARKE176
      @CLARKE176 Před rokem

      @@williamvorkosigan5151 fair enough. Thanks man. Just thought you were a member of the woke team earlier. Glad your not👍👍

  • @arungupta3838
    @arungupta3838 Před 2 měsíci +4

    people make hitler more of a villain than he is because he ended on the losing side whereas people like stalin, chirchill got the pass

  • @windswept17
    @windswept17 Před 2 měsíci

    I totally agree with Andrew Roberts. Why should we blame the British when Hindu society itself is based on hierarchical caste system. Back in the days the treatment of Sudra and lower castes within India itself was appalling.

    • @RR-pc7yv
      @RR-pc7yv Před 2 měsíci

      So is Muslim society and its treatment of slaves, Kafirs and Pasmanda Muslims....

    • @RR-pc7yv
      @RR-pc7yv Před 2 měsíci +2

      Both you and Roberts are dead wrong and completely ill-informed about the Indian/Hindu social structures. They're jaatis not caste system (as has been claimed and believed by people since colonial era). Jaatis are basically communities based patrilineal lineages, clan-based ethnicities and profession-based communities,etc. They're not hierarchical but yes, classism and class hierarchy do exist in the Indian society. Just like the way social discrimination and hierarchy, exists in human societies all around the world. This is what these Westerners and people like you fail to understand. Indian society and its social structures have always been evolutionary in nature and have evolved.
      Yes, social mobility also existed in India since time immemorial. So did social discrimination, classism and social reformation.
      Shudra is a varna and is not a Jaati. There is no varna system and ancient India had a fluid class system which existed until the emergence of Jaatis in the 2nd-3rd century CE period. This 'upper caste' and 'lower caste', binary and terminology in itself is of colonial origin.
      Point is that, we need to be informed and only then should make up our opinions instead of just jumping on the bandwagon and falling for such superficial and baseless conclusions...

    • @prasvasu4217
      @prasvasu4217 Před měsícem

      ​@@RR-pc7yv Thank you... These half wits at it again... justifying the death of a million people!

    • @shivasrinivasan80
      @shivasrinivasan80 Před 26 dny

      It is easy to agree when you don't have any knowledge.

  • @otablott7779
    @otablott7779 Před 2 měsíci

    Britain is a dump now. Karma sucks

  • @stoopidpaki4806
    @stoopidpaki4806 Před rokem +22

    India always had famines and continued to have them after Britain left. East India and Bangladesh are prone historically to famines. Today many are trying to milk this tragedy.

    • @elhombredeoro955
      @elhombredeoro955 Před rokem +20

      It's true that India was historically prone to famines, but the native rulers and even foreigners like Mughal rulers tried to alleviate the sufferings by forgiving taxes and building projects etc, but frequency and intensity of famines increased during the British rule because high taxes for example tax collected from Purnea district was equivalent to 600000 rupees silver in the 1756, but the British raised it to 2500000 rupees silver in 1758 just a year after their conquest of Bengal and they demanded cash whereas former rulers also collected tax in form of produce and labor. The peasants were forced to grow cash crops which contributed to the grain shortage in regions of India. Between 1851 and 1900 there were 30 famines in India which was unprecedented.

    • @stoopidpaki4806
      @stoopidpaki4806 Před rokem

      @@elhombredeoro955 Rubbish. Statistics in South Asia tend to be less than reliable even today leave alone in 1700s. You guys pull numbers out of thin air and then use them to premise your argumant. Fact is South Asia - such a thing as India not even exist before British arrived anymore than Scandanavia, Balkans or Maghreb exist as countries. British rule for all it's evils was far, far superior then previous rulers. For instance the only thing Moghuls did was tax and build palaces while the masses lived in near famine conditions. It was rapacious elite that ruled South Asia. I was not there and neither were you but there is one fact that confirms my argumant. How the hell did a small number of English manage to conquer a region the size of Europe with twice the population? This was only possible because there was a rapacious, idle, incompetent elite and masses in state of near famine. Only under these circumtances were few English able to take over.

    • @johndorilag4129
      @johndorilag4129 Před rokem +28

      The Bengal famine was man-made or at least, minimized and alleviated, the British can deny it but they were culpable for the deaths and suffering of Indians.

    • @JohnSmith-iu3ui
      @JohnSmith-iu3ui Před rokem +7

      @@johndorilag4129 did you not watch the video ?

    • @johndorilag4129
      @johndorilag4129 Před rokem +6

      @@JohnSmith-iu3ui And your point is?

  • @FatherFigure123
    @FatherFigure123 Před 3 měsíci +8

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_major_famines_in_India_during_British_rule
    Bengal was not the exception, but the norm - the frequency and intensity of British era Indian famines have not been replicated since or before, going back 2 millennia. But sure, ignore the common denominator here and pass the blame on to some natural disaster or supply line issues.

    • @nodruj8681
      @nodruj8681 Před měsícem

      Most of these were by El nino events which are dramatic climatic events which had nothing to do with the british.

    • @FatherFigure123
      @FatherFigure123 Před měsícem

      ​@@nodruj8681 look up the British tax structure in India. Taxation was not a percentage of income but a preset quota reported to shareholders. So during times of climatic hardships, when the expectation from any government would be taxation relief at the very least if not food imports and distribution, the British East India Company ended up charging a higher percentage of the reduced produce for the year to meet their hefty quotas, which even during years of regular produce amounted to almost 2/3rds of all produce. So during adverse weather conditions, the subjects would end up owing their entire produce + then some, pushing them into perpetual debt. There are documented instances of them even taking animal feed other minute possessions to meet these quotas. The truth is that the British East India Company was an unsympathetic private company listed on the British stock market, with profit obligations to their shareholders - they treated India as a dehumanized machinery to extract their profits, and if you replace them with any other government with any benevolence or accountability to the Indian people - despite the El Nino events, which are cyclical btw and have happened several times before and since British rule - without nearly the death tolls of British administration, 10s of millions of lives would have been saved at the very least.

    • @FatherFigure123
      @FatherFigure123 Před měsícem

      ​@@nodruj8681 ​ look up the British tax structure in India. Taxation was not a percentage of income but a preset quota reported to shareholders. So during times of climatic hardships, when the expectation from any government would be taxation relief at the very least if not food imports and distribution, the British East India Company ended up charging a higher percentage of the reduced produce for the year to meet their hefty quotas, which even during years of regular produce amounted to almost 2/3rds of all produce. So during adverse weather conditions, the subjects would end up owing their entire produce + then some, pushing them into perpetual debt. There are documented instances of them even taking animal feed other minute possessions to meet these quotas. The truth is that the British East India Company was an unsympathetic private company listed on the British stock market, with profit obligations to their shareholders - they treated India as a dehumanized machinery to extract their profits, and if you replace them with any other government with even the most basic non-sociopathic sense of benevolence or accountability to the Indian people - despite the El Nino events, which are cyclical btw and have happened several times before and since British rule - without nearly the death tolls of British administration, 10s of millions of lives would have been saved at the very least.
      I am told that the British empire is taught as the proudest achievement of British history - a force for good and modernity that the larger world should bow down to the British in thanks for, without any mentions of the several colonial atrocities that occurred during the times, the constant white supremacism and dehumanization that world suffered because of the rule that, relatively speaking, only and only benefited the British. So the absolutely cringeworthy disconnect of the products of the British education system from factual reality is understandable.

    • @FatherFigure123
      @FatherFigure123 Před měsícem

      @@nodruj8681 look up the British tax structure in India. Taxation was not a percentage of income but a preset quota reported to shareholders. So during times of climatic hardships, when the expectation from any government would be taxation relief at the very least if not food imports and distribution, the British East India Company ended up charging a higher percentage of the reduced produce for the year to meet their hefty quotas, which even during years of regular produce amounted to almost 2/3rds of all produce. So during adverse weather conditions, the subjects would end up owing their entire produce + then some, pushing them into perpetual debt. There are documented instances of them even taking animal feed other minute possessions to meet these quotas. The truth is that the British East India Company was an unsympathetic private company listed on the British stock market, with profit obligations to their shareholders - they treated India as a dehumanized machinery to extract their profits, and if you replace them with any other government with even the most basic non-sociopathic sense of benevolence or accountability to the Indian people - despite the El Nino events, which are cyclical btw and have happened several times before and since British rule - without nearly the death tolls of British administration, 10s of millions of lives would have been saved at the very least.
      I am told that the British empire is taught as the proudest achievement of British history - a force for good and modernity that the larger world should bow down to the British in thanks for, without any mentions of the several colonial atrocities that occurred during the times, the constant white supremacism and dehumanization that world suffered because of the rule that, relatively speaking, only and only benefited the British. So the absolutely cringeworthy disconnect of the products of the British education system from factual reality is understandable.

    • @FatherFigure123
      @FatherFigure123 Před měsícem

      ​ @nodruj8681 ​ look up the British tax structure in India. Taxation was not a percentage of income but a preset quota reported to shareholders. So during times of climatic hardships, when the expectation from any government would be taxation relief at the very least if not food imports and distribution, the British East India Company ended up charging a higher percentage of the reduced produce for the year to meet their hefty quotas, which even during years of regular produce amounted to almost 2/3rds of all produce. So during adverse weather conditions, the subjects would end up owing their entire produce + then some, pushing them into perpetual debt. There are documented instances of them even taking animal feed other minute possessions to meet these quotas. The truth is that the British East India Company was an unsympathetic private company listed on the British stock market, with profit obligations to their shareholders - they treated India as a dehumanized machinery to extract their profits, and if you replace them with any other government with even the most basic non-sociopathic sense of benevolence or accountability to the Indian people - despite the El Nino events, which are cyclical btw and have happened several times before and since British rule - without nearly the death tolls of British administration, 10s of millions of lives would have been saved at the very least.
      I am told that the British empire is taught as the proudest achievement of British history - a force for good and modernity that the larger world should bow down to the British in thanks for, without any mentions of the several colonial atrocities that occurred during the times, the constant white supremacism and dehumanization that world suffered because of the rule that, relatively speaking, only and only benefited the British. So the absolutely cringeworthy disconnect of the products of the British education system from factual reality is understandable.

  • @haroldpearson6025
    @haroldpearson6025 Před rokem +9

    There was also a little trouble with the Japs!

    • @wyomingar
      @wyomingar Před 7 měsíci +1

      I think he was speaking in regards to trouble from Japan in India. It wasn't that big.

    • @CLARKE176
      @CLARKE176 Před 6 měsíci

      @@wyomingar it was, they had invaded Burma and were marching towards India.