Destiny Defends His Positions Against Leftist Who Made Things Personal
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Date: 5 Feb, 2022
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00:00:00 Why Destiny abused his son
00:01:27 You're Ben Shapiro
00:08:02 Am I not allowed to share my impression of you?
00:20:30 Blue Marker
00:36:45 We always take steps to mitigate risks
00:45:31 "What am I ignoring?"
00:51:40 Stealthers want to avoid confrontations
01:07:36 "you should try taking up martial arts"
#Destiny
Right before the Gavin McInnes debate ( czcams.com/video/blcwLQ38mlU/video.html ) Destiny defends his Positions against Leftist who wanted to make things personal
Destiny watches the video making claims about his personal life ►czcams.com/video/acXtRx3iJL0/video.html
Thanks for including the other guys chat as well, I like that
You can't call it "making things personal" when he *streamed his behavior to the public.* Apparently Destiny's editors are just as dumb as Destiny himself, just not as well compensated.
@@GreyKnight7777 Bro, maybe English isn’t your first language but making things personal in this context means “making personal attacks” not “talking in private”
@@abednegokurio9244 English is my first language, and I am correct. Feel free to seethe, tho.
@@GreyKnight7777 English and words seem hard for you, you should go back to pre-school before jumping on youtube to comment.
“Child abuse because he pushes his son off cliffs video games” Yep, this is gonna be a a good one.
This is classic Destiny abusive behavior.
We all watched as he abused Mouton in the same way. Disgraceful.
Found the simp
@@Ematched you are correct disgusting behavior
@@GreyKnight7777 Yes
True his son only laughed because he didn't have a twitter feed to tell him he was being abused.
The clip was Destiny tricking his son to Alt+F4 after his son tried to trick Destiny into doing it, not Destiny pushing his son off a videogame cliff. However, Destiny has tricked Mouton into jumping off a videogame cliff before, meaning there's a chance this guy confused MrMouton with, as he said, a ten year old child, making him automatically based.
New lore just dropped Mr moot is destiny's son
@@SephirothASTAROTH What you mean new? It's pretty old, he is his third son, he also groomed him
There’s also another clip from that same stream where Destiny gets Nathan to stand on the edge of that building, hold f, and then hold D so he just walks directly off the edge lmao
@@thealamo8308 HOW ABUSEIVE OMG YOU PLAYED A VIDEO GAME WITH YOUR KID AND MADE HIM HAVE TO RESPAWN
@@ThyCorruptor I mean if we’re being charitable I think the guys take was that it’s abusive to bring your kid on stream and purposely upset him for content. (Which I would probably agree with) The thing is that nothing remotely close to that has ever happened even once on Destiny’s stream lol
holy shit the dude's chat was coping so hard. I also love how he accused Destiny of being Ben Shapiro and then proceeds to interrupt, argue semantics, throw personal insults, and basically act like a 7-eleven version of Ben Shapiro. Hilarious.
Hope you’re doing better Hunter!
hard coping. love that he shows chat bc it goes to show that people can really brainwash the fuck out of their community
Welcome to the slippery far leftist Englishman. Everyone is abusive, or abused. Everyone is a perpetrator or a victim. Claims to be a feminist….only to use it to try to get into womens pants. Condescending, sarcastic, and passive aggressive. I’m English, as a qualifier lol.
Ben Hacky-ro
Chat wasn't doing that they were telling him to get on with it.
I cannot fathom the supposed human beings that watch that guy's stream. Thank god there's literally a 0% chance of running into one of these people in the real world so long as you don't accidentally stumble into their goblin lair.
If you ever get the time watch this back but focus on the other guys chat. Bunch of fucking lunatics...
"Get him", "R WORD SLUR", "get him", "r word slur", "racist", "victim blamer". "GET HIM, GET HIM".
Guy was 100% right on everything, I cant understand who watches Destiny after this.
guy literally said it is the same for pushing some boundary and stealthing.
he thinks its the same if guy asks girl to put it in her bum or if he secretly takes condom off and impregnates her, after which she is getting a traumatising abortion or giving birth to a child!!!
destiny is literally braindead.
Somehow I run into people like this guy on a regular basis lol
Literal stereotypes of how terminally online leftists act. The ists and phobes, interpreting and discussing in bad faith, etc
"Destiny is a shitty father, he pushed him off a cliff in a video game" has got to be the funniest evidence that Destiny is a bad father I've heard.
It's literally the 'in a video game' meme but unironically. Lol.
Especially because the best evidence of him being a bad father is making his son watch him play League of Legends
@@Archsinister to be honest, that should be considered abuse.
@@Archsinister HE MADE HIM WATCH WHAT?! Bro thats worse than physical abuse at that point.
That is the best evidence of a good father; man, if my father played video games with me and tried to piss me off and I tried to piss him off, it is what I fantasise about.
A Father and Son playing a game, and trying to prank each other. Is the most wholesome thing I've ever seen!
yeah that shit literally make me like destiny more lmao it was adorable.
wholesome? that's literally child abuse
Bruh this guy said telling your son to alt f4 to hack the game is child abuse LMAO
@@sorcererofsalt5786 After the kid tried to get you to ALT-F4 the game. Kid literally saying "You make me laugh" showing he was enjoying himself.
Sounds like the kid was laughing and found It hilarious
This guy is super passive aggressive. I can't stand people like that. It's so much worse than being blatantly aggressive.
I’d rather deal with a passive aggressive Jesus-lookalike than with the “blatantly aggressive”. The latter usually end up in prison on pretty serious charges… 😄
To be fair, I've seen Destiny do it. He's not immune to it.
@suspendedtwice4sayingrasis261 nah I prefer an honest aggressive person than someone being deceitful their anger or distaste
@@shanepurcell8116yeah, tbh though I feel often it is him matching the attitude of the person he is dealing with
I know.
That's why I can't stand Density...
The other guy was like that a bit too, eh?
Wow that guy had such a hard time engaging logically with Destiny’s arguments.
Destiny was incredibly patient omg
lol i would have left after 8 mins
i just can't do that, i don't know how he does it....
opposite, i am shocked how he didnt hang up the call after destiny started stalling for 30 minutes before addressing what he wants to talk about
@@PrendeII destiny is the one that asked him to talk? and also they engaging in discussion from the very beginning. did we watch the same video?
Destiny was seeing if the guy can have an actual conversation abt something which isn't personal, but the guy couldn't even do that, so there's no way the guy would have been able to make it not personal when talking abt Destiny's personal life
If my dad had played video games and clowned around like this with me when I was 9, i'd have been happy af.
Damn those people that gate keep parenting to their own exact idea of how they would do it.
and so many of these aren't actual parents lol i don't get it.
@@wren4077 absolutely true lel
Playing Zelda with my mom is A: my most cherished memory with her and B: the reason I still play games passionately today. For better or worse I'm incredibly thankful.
@Daddy Dark Lord Might be the same for me. Having her watch 'and help' while playing the Sega Genesis and PS1 is some of my fondest memories.
I was just thinking this I wish to god I had interactions like that with my dad
The smug on this guy was unbearable.
He starts off by pretending like he doesn't know anything about Destiny, and then goes on to talk about how Destiny debates.
"Child abuse"? Really?
Another struggle streamer looking for clout.
some people really are just unbearable to be around, this guy is one of those.
Funny thing is he used to be poketuber
he keeps making baseless assumptions about him too. video today hurt to watch
Yeah he ended up knowing a lot about destiny for only seeing bits and pieces
Kinda got some lefty Sargon vibes
58:56
Destiny: Do you think a person who couldn't establish boundaries on 3 separate occasions should continue engaging in casual sex?
Duncan: No, probably not.
Chat: THERE DESTINY GOES AGAIN WITH THIS BRAIN DEAD ARGUMENT
Literally the whole point of the argument lmao
people who watch these streams are incapable of forming their own opinion on things or saying anything intelligent and instead just say "this guys a dumby lololol" or just spam "WHAT?!??" to a statement that anybody with an IQ above 6 could understand
44:59 "It might be that you're watching my chat when I'm debating somebody expectionally stupid. That might be happening right now."
Destiny, that was savage, jesus
You can tell this guy doesn't actually disagree he just doesn't want to concede the argument infront of his audience
The absolute number of people Destiny has talked to over the years that this applies to is amazin'
No, it's just an idiot. I've argued with him over twitter and even after I proved the study he posted was bullshit, he continued to act superior.
Pretty much
That’s Duncan for ya. I used to watch his content when he was a PokéTuber and loved it. He and his friends were hilarious. He decided to broaden his content and made some stuff on Monster Hunter which I wasn’t too interested in, but then he decided to make political content and me being right leaning, I obviously disagreed with his leftist ideas, but that’s not what bothered me. What pissed me off is on his vaccine video, I just said my take on the vaccine is that you should get it if you want to. If you don’t then that’s fine too and he decided to call me anti-vax and then a coward for not “admitting” that I am one. I’m not vaccinated for COVID-19, but I’m pro-vax in general. I think everyone is allowed to make their own conscience decision. It just sucks to see a guy who you supported and respected have such a downfall.
Yeah he's ego can't take it xD i need to maintain my smugness ooohh eehhh
“He would abuse his son by tricking him into falling off cliffs in video games.” Clearly a proud graduate of The Ana Frills School of Psychology.
That’s abuse bro !!!
YOU'RE GASLIGHTING US, STOP SAYING THAT! 😭
Am I an abuser for not holding back when playing Mario Kart with my child and firing turtle shells at her and don't roam away all the bots to let her win...or maybe I just don't want her to be a spoiled brat that doesn't know "how to loose" since she's a single child.
You better not stonewall me after this. That would be abuse! That is so horrible!
You haven't responded to any of our replies. STOP STONEWALLING US 😭
I'm a very logical, empathic person and feel like I can usually understand the two sides of any argument but when it comes to people that Destiny debate, I can NEVER understand how they can't understand Destiny's point of view, like AT ALL. How can they be so ignorant?
And more often than not they end up having the same arguments as Destiny but they don't want to admit to it because they don't wanna look bad in front of their audience, it's all about arrogance
Because either they are being very disingenuous or simply don't see him at all. Since he kept interrupting destiny at every turn to argue with something Destiny didn't say, I might say the second.
🤖 ' HELLO MR VERY LOGICAL PERSON. ARE YOU ALSO A FELLOW ROBOT? BEEP BOOP BEEEE33EEIEIEEJIEE.
Right? Like they just WANT him to be wrong because they decided they don’t like him
@@tkyk4893this 100%
A father and son pranking each other in a video game is now the same thing as child abuse. God breadtubers. You never cease to amaze me
This dude reeks of insecurity and defensiveness
Yea that constant fucking smirk he does to try to hide his insecurities LOLLL
I think it's cat piss.
He got incredibly defensive and tried to make himself appear small while simultanously throwing personal insults towards D. He REALLY wanted no repercussions for saying shit and owning up to it and then be afraid of the backlash. literally no spine
The leftist sounds like a weasel if you ask me
Dude stop disability shaming him, he's just a small poor small-time streamer from a poor immigrant family who's malnourished from the famine that struck his tiny village. He never got the nutrients to grow a spine as a child :(
No ur wrong, he is fully prepared to take what he gives, see even he said it: 1:03:28
(This is complete sarcasm, this man is a joke almost lolcow level)
Interesting how he keeps claiming how upset Destiny is. Meanwhile, he's the one who starts getting defensive when calmly asked a line of very simple questions.
Wants a click bait title for his clips “I triggered Destiny!!” Bull crap
It scares me that so many people refuse to understand personal responsibility.
I wonder how these individuals view getting robbed, like are they going to hide in the broom closet? Are they going to lay there when the next break in comes in and on the third, Destiny says "Do you have like a shotgun? You may want to get something for home defense, and a security system for good measure." Yiu have people yelling "why should he defend himself! People shouldn't be stealing! Why can't the police teleport into the home!"
Of all the bad takes feminists make, the one where women being assertive and wise in sexual relations is held in contempt because it's the men who should change their behaviour, has to be the worst.
Until the day when _all men_ learn to behave appropriately, it makes perfect sense for women to empower themselves to remain as safe possible. The lack of insight in not being able to grasp this concept is stunning. This fool would happily tell women who are scared of asserting themselves to go for it and fuck strangers because the world _should_ be a better place. My lord what idiocy.
The optics aren’t that great. It’s very easy for people to just come to the conclusion that this is synonymous with “it’s the woman’s fault entirely”. Which I’m assuming that everyone here isn’t saying.
The smug smiles his opponents get when they inexplicably think they're doing well are almost unbearable.
RIGHT!
His community does it sooo much aswell. With every other comment ending with "...". I can just hear the smugness
also the way he says “just maybe…” to make it seem like what destiny said was stupid
That was practically the entire chat of the other guy. The smugness and weird takes were so rampant damn.
I'm so glad this guy pointed out the horrible abusive behaviour by Destiny, I now feel comfortable telling my story.
One day coming back from school my dad was off sick and I saw him playing my gameboy and when he gave it back he had overwritten my save in pokemon blue and I had lost all my pokemon that I had caught and had to start again.
I've never had the courage to tell this story out of fear of backlash, I'm literally crying and shaking thinking about it.
RIP my Blastoise
I'm sending this to the police right now. So brave to come out. We will have jutice for the absolute slander against Charizard. FYI the best pokemon.
@@richardhands904 You're free to have the wrong opinion.
I mean come on what is charizard even at his best against? Bug types and grass types? Wow your dragon can beat some small insects and a plant.
Meanwhile the Chad thicc boi blastoise can beat fire breathing dragons with water and learns ice moves to beat other dragons.
Plus he has tank turrets on his back, so all other arguments are invalid.
So brave. How you survived that encounter...I just don't know. I'll prayge for you.
@@RealFreedomMG too bad all venusaur has to do is make blastoise go night night and wrap him up with his vines and have his way with the poor little turtle
@@prestoiidx What even is Venusaur? He's an ugly chubby looking dinosaur with a plant on his back.
What is Blastoise? A super bulky turtle with tank turrets.
Also we have to admit, Venusaur is the rapey pokemon. You use sleep powder or stun spore then use leech seed the whole time. Only the worst humans choose Venusaur.
At least Charizard is the 2nd best starter. There's some honor in 2nd place.
Isnt it crazy how hes saying "you shouldnt tell a man stealthing you no because hes already raping you and is gonna get violent because hes already in the middle of committing a crime" but then goes "we should instead be telling men that rape is bad" like youve already created this image of the rapist that knows hes doing rape out of the evilness of his being and you think telling him its bad is gonna change something?
The clip at the beginning was the sweetest thing I’ve ever seen- my heart melted
So he reverse trolled his son, who was in the process of trolling him, and this is abuse?
As a father, I thought this was a pretty wholesome moment. Something they will both look back on later in life and say "remember that time that I did XYZ?"
100%. And there's nothing better than when they get resourceful enough to get one past you.
Yeah, to me that was such a wholesome cute moment. I can just imagine that kid thinking how fun it would be that get one in over his dad, and that reversal was so funny and just what Destiny would do. Reading an interaction like that as child abuse has to be 100% disingenuous, the person watching has no concept of reading social cues.
@@Kryto_Gaming you only have to listen to him to know that.
It feels like people like this never had a solid father figure in their life.
That's one of the most wholesome moments on destiny's streams
Destiny is a good father. I once made a superchat asking Nathan to floss. Destiny immediately told him not to. That's fatherly love.
protecting his son from being cringe
@@emperortgp2424 as he should
And I remember a video where he did infact floss and sing FNAF songs.
Wouldn’t flossing prevent gingivitis 🤔
@@emperortgp2424 unironically this is important in the modern day
Here after Rackets absolutely BTFO’d this dude.
me too. was a joy to behold.
#MeToo 😂
I'm so glad Duncan was on a show like Rekieta's, so more people can see what an awful, horrible person Duncan is.
@@TheDudeSama while this does show duncan in a poor light. it wont change anything his posture right now will not shift whatsoever he will hide in his corner of the internet and cope while he trys to be the thing he hates the most. A Bigot, and worst part is? he will not admit to it so he will continue to live in his echo chamber until either he fails as a content creator or until he loses his platform to speak to others. both which is possible but at the same time he is very very dangerous so long as he has a platform. cause its not only him that is the problem its his followers that would die on a cross for him. Only time will tell how this all ends to be honest and hopefully it just doesn't end in a blood bath.
The one thing Destiny has over literally any other person in Twitch politics is being succinct and to the point.
Also, if we grant him that Destiny "speaks a lot but says nothing" - than in that case I actually prefer that he speaks quickly. Imagine listening to someone who not only "speaks a lot and says nothing", but also does it incredibly slowly. That sounds like literal torture.
Ala Richard Wolff debate
@@aidanhennessey5586 Great example
A la demon mama
@@aidanhennessey5586 lmao I wanted to write Richard Wolff too the goat
So this guy watched destiny "abusing his child" and didn't immediately contact the police or child protective services? He must be okay with child abuse then.
lol
you my friend, see right through it
Based
@Shawn Allen for sure, BUT let's remember that IF a parent trolls like that many times, it can lead to trust issues and weird lifetime psychological shit, but I'm sure Destiny knows this
@@nakanoyuko >.> i guess, in some small percent of cases
This dude's chat is something else. They can only respond with total outrage, it's like they don't even hear what's being said.
@Blake Bortles Outside of the way he originally phrased his tweets, nothing about the clarifications he gave during this conversation was outrageous. This chat couldn't even entertain the idea that asserting boundaries during sex is something that should be encouraged without assuming Destiny was blaming the stealthing victim for being stealthed - something he clarified he wasn't doing, multiple times. They just reflexively went into outrage mode no matter what was being said.
Imagine stating all men are bad faith actors and then also stating that women should engage in casual sex regardless of their ability to be vocal on boundaries, all within 30 minutes. His chat either has a large overlap with TwoXChromosomes or they all collectively share a single brain cell. (In many cases, the or is inclusive.)
i dont think his chat even know anything they're saying
But he definitely doesnt have an echo chamber like he accuses others of
@Blake Bortles of course Blake Bortles would say this
So this guy’s argument is literally “tell men not stealth people, but if they try to do it to you anyway you shouldn’t say anything because you’ll instantly die” has this guy ever had a sexual encounter ever?
That guy can't be serious, he did not do well defending anything
Something I found really irritating was how he knew enough about Destiny to make all sorts of claims but would always fall back on the defence that he didn't pay enough attention to substantiate those claims, and saying that somewhat proudly
Just as knowing a lot about something or someone is characterized as "being obsessed" meaning "bad", not knowing about something or someone is "good"
@@TheMrTangamandapio My wife will be pleased to know that me forgetting our anniversary was actually a "good" thing!
I like how Duncans chat went from "lol destiny is malding hes sensitive" to going full caps lock meltdown
they weren't even listening to what he was saying, just how he was coming off. actually scratch that, i think they legit couldn't comprehend anything he was saying.
@@env0x all they did was listen for buzz words
@@paytonmacdonald1409 They were trying to pin him down on the web, little did they know...
The chat Duncan has is hilarious. It’s like a room of 12 year olds 🤣🤣🤣
As long as there is spineless people in the internet Destiny will always have content.
*says women should not have to verbalise anything 50 times in a row as his only argument.*
*finally understands that Destiny is making a distinction between governmental/social progress and current advice to individuals.*
*brings up martial arts as a measure for women to take that's better advice than what Destiny said.*
*gets called out for it.*
"NO I DIDN'T SAY SHE WOULD BE ABLE TO FEND OFF A RAPIST, BUT KNOWING HOW TO FIGHT WOULD MAKE HER CAPABLE OF SAYING NO WHEN SOMETHING HAPPENS THAT SHE DOESN'T LIKE."
Bruh. You can tell her to learn how to fight so she has the confidence to talk in non-violent encounters, but you can't tell her to talk in non-violent encounters??
@@TheHadMatters Laying on your back with your legs wrapped around the attacker is an advantageous position in BJJ. It's called closed guard. They're already half way there, lmao.
@@bennymountain1 wouldnt that be on the floor and not a bed
Spinestiny
Haha this I like this one.. but yeah it's a bottomless pit of bad takes
That clip is literally the cutest father and son clip on the Internet. I would hate to be this leftist dudes son.
He's either deranged or the greatest father who ever lived who demands even happier children.
Yeah lol
That clip at least doubled my wish to have a kid.
Does this guy thinks that dads dont mess with their sons? I bet he thinks the "Gen-x talks" dad abuses his kids as well...
"Exploting your kids is cute" is certainly a take. The reality of Steve being kept away from Nathan for _years_ speaks to something else.
47:50 Destiny uses a car theft analogy for placing blame and mitigating risk.
This guys chat: "Why are we talking about cars?" "Oh, so women are cars now"
It may be that this isn't the full clip, but to me it seemed like they were trying to prank each other and that Nathan laughed by end of it. What am I missing?
You can tell a lot about a streamer when they pull out the "oh I'm a small nobody streamer why do you care what I say" card. It's basically an admission that they never intended to back up the bullshit they said.
"Why are you holding me accountable for trying to smear you?😭"
same as the small Twitter accounts who relentlessly harass and bully larger accounts but immediately start playing the victim if the larger account pays them attention
Seriously, much better streamers have audience of 50.
It's a valid cop out if you're like *just a commenter* or something, but once you're on camera you have a little more responsibility.
@@the_inquisitive_inquisitor Once they intend for their comments to have an audience.
This guy accuses Destiny of talking alot without saying anything, and then proceeds to ramble on without saying anything.
a lot*
His chat is the woke Olympics
I mean the dude has alot of crossover with Keffals sooo...
@@YourMom-dd3jo Oh, THAT’S why they seem like they are the type of toxic people who pretend that they are all completely innocent and cutesy, and could never do anything wrong!
It all makes sense, now!
I despise people who pretend to be completely good and kind and yet are very clearly rude, ignorant, and just self-centered to the point where they are literally incapable of listening to or thinking through something that someone they view as ‘the opposition’ says?
“He’s a bad father, that’s child abuse” “I don’t have much of a perception of you” haha okay dude
Watching Duncan's chat is actually gaslighting me. Like I'm questioning my reality on how I perceive things.
It was fascinating wasnt it. It's truly eye opening. When you hear about some crazy cancellation in progress, it's places like Duncan's chat where the bots breed that do it
Duncan's chat was a hypocritical cesspool. Literally flopping on a whim to whatever Duncan was agreeing on and nitpicking "OMG HE SAID THE R WORD EVIL DESTINY" and when Duncan said it like 10 minutes later nobody said SHIT about it. On God his chat has me livid I can just drown like a whole monastery of nuns.
Questioning my sanity as I watch this
his chat made me have to look at comments cause they are just up right retards no wonder he can’t say he agrees his community would dump him fast asf
Omg dude that chat was absolutely infuriating lol.
Like 99% of ppl in that chat are complete morons.
This guy is trying to hard to remain cool while being as passive aggressive as humanly possible lmao
Yup. They'll lace every sentence with condescension, smarminess, and passive aggressive barbs, all the while maintaining a "calm" exterior, but then the moment that you point it out or criticise it, they clutch their pearls as though you're attacking them "out of the nowhere".
Best quote of all time "today you're going to be a confident Virgo that doesn't get raped" just made my vision board 🤣
Must be a Vaush fan - I'd recognize Baselessly Smug Style anywhere.
The way he keeps insisting on reassuring destiny that he's cool or "doesn't really care" comes off as insecure lol
@@amuro9624 the cherry on the icecream sundae of this guys insecurity was when he said he did martial arts to increase his confidence. what confidence lmao
The word "awkward" was actually the entire problem.
If someone's feels "awkward" about not asserting boundaries during sex, then maybe they shouldn't be having casual sex.
But if someone's feels like they're in DANGER, that's VERY DIFFERENT than feeling AWKWARD.
people who call destiny's audience circle jerky are kinda showing their hand in a lot of ways. he does a reall good job of explaining everything explicitly and yet everyone he debates assumes he's trying to trap them and bait them into saying shit....when in reality they've been saying shit the whole time
That's not why destiny fans are a circle jerk, they're a circle jerk because they agree with the party position no matter what. It's not that they're circle jerking destiny, it's that they circle jerk their political orthodoxy. Destiny simply aligns with that orthodoxy a lot of the time, regardless of how poorly he actually argues it, thus he gets their support. It's why destiny fans to this day still say destiny beat naked ape on their debate, when any third party could clearly see that destiny was out of his depth.
It has nothing to do with it being destiny making the shit argument, and everything to do with the shit argument aligning with their political bias. It's also why them turn on him in a second if he disagrees with the party's orthodoxy. That's where the circle jerking, sycophantic aspect comes from. It's a circle jerk of intersectionalism, not a circle jerk of destiny. Destiny is the vehicle, not the road.
Destiny is a shit debater, though. He gish gallops like a mother fucker, he also moves the goal post constantly if he feels he's losing at all on a point. Though his worst crime when it comes to debate is his obsession with appealing to authority. Every time he encounters someone who knows more than him he falls back to appeals to authority and consensus.
Should be a new mini-series called "clout chasers" where insignificant "content creators" try to farm drama. This guy would be front and center in Destiny's series
hahaha.. I support this idea full heartedly
Make it a thing on the reddit and hope that other people start linking them to Destiny.
I am talking directly to you and only you. You have much more agency than you think. This all started from some random chatter posting the link in Destiny's chat.
You only make Destiny look bad by posting these braindead takes. I agree with Destiny on this video but the defense that anyone smaller than you is clout chasing is so fucking annoying. Even if you are correct about him clout chasing, it is the easiest take to dunk on and serves nothing to the conversation. You are just making the argument that viewership somehow adds value to what is said or that this person only made these arguments in bad faith because of their lack of clout, which is just unprovable and very assumptive.
A streamer who didn’t want to discuss, is brought on destiny’s stream at destiny’s request and now the streamer is chasing clout? Lol
Pin this bro, that would be fire
It was cute when he was using the “youre upset” line because that’s an easy layup. But once the argument finally started he realized his childish angle didn’t work. He needs to understand nuance instead of trying to be a SJW.
the funny thing is he is advocating for women to be quiet and not confront in the situation of rape. so an SJW i wouldnt call him
If I was this dude, I wouldve oulled out the classic "Youre Really upset"
the funniest part abt Duncan's chat freaking about when destiny said retard is that duncan was about to say it but said "idk if I can say this becuase of twitch", meaning he only didnt say it because of guidelines, not cuz of it being "ableist".
I've never seen such a wholesome moment get dragged through the dirt so wrongly
I admit it. When I was very young me and my younger brother would play halo reach 1v1 and I would screen peek him constantly and win. He didn’t realize I was cheating. I abused my younger brother. Forgive me, lord.
I second this and also ask forgiveness from my younger brother
The way this guy danced around at the beginning in bad faith, and so transparently, accusing you of what he was doing was maddening. You handle that stuff so well destiny.
This ^
cringe
He also kept running back to the word 'rape', which says a lot. If you have a really specific term for what actually happened, which is 'stealthing', why would you retreat to a more general term? The only reason you'd want to do this, is because the more general word 'rape' includes a whole spectrum of different specific acts with different intensities. Stealthing is probably way at the bottom there. So when you use the more general word 'rape', you suddenly make the thing that actually happened way worse than it actually was. That's gaslighting at its worst and it's a classic example of acting in bad faith.
I know, how he'll did he learn to be so well tempered?
Off the bat you can tell this dude loves that Destiny wants to talk to him about what he said, and he feels like there's no way Destiny will be right or convince him about anything
It's funny to see the contrast between the chats, it's like a group of people supporting their favorite team and hating on the opposite team for absolutely anything.
The amount of DEATH THREATS from that guy's chat towards destiny was INSANE towards the end, they were straight up saying he should be killed. How very peaceful of that guy's chat.
this is a great example of someone who's so nervous about having a direct argument about their supposedly strong beliefs that they constantly derail the conversation while simultaneously complaining that the conversation is being derailed
God forbid a female have an ounce of accountability
Seeing this other guy’s chat is fascinating. Please editor, include that more often!
Wait, is he seriously saying Destiny ABUSED his son because he trolled him once on stream LOL??? Jesus Christ.
If you're embarrassing your kids publicly for clicks and views, yeah that's pretty much what it is. Love to hear how it's not, but something tells me that I shouldn't hold my breath waiting!
Dude's after that sweet, sweet clout.
and that’s because his son was trolling him. it was mad cute wtf shit so weird on the internet.
@@GreyKnight7777 it was a cute back and forth between a father and son. Calm down.
@@GreyKnight7777 Did your dad never play and joke around with you?
pushing a co-op partner off a cliff is such a DAD thing to do, it's actually hilarious, hell if my dad knew how to play video games, I bet he would have done all the dad trolls he could possibly do in a virtual world and even 4 year old me would have known it's all done with humor and good faith. it's absurd how this guy get's upset about this interaction and it makes me wonder how down at the bottom of the barrell he had to scrap that this is "abuse".
I think all the "in a video game" memes are starting to warp their perception of reality...
my dad would intentionally throw interceptions to make us lose in madden '05, i would cry, he would laugh. Fond memories lol
Hope this guy doesn't catch me throwing my niece into the air or I fear I may never see the bra- I mean sweet little angel again.
This guy would say that "pull my finger" and farting joke is abuse dude.
i alkso remember when he was playing StarCraft 2 with Nathan and Nathan wanted to do VS and destiny said "no" because he didnt want to beat his son nor let him win so he made him play co-op. Then while playing, Nathan kept messing with him and Destiny threatened to blow up his base if he didnt stop "Nathan dont attack me or im gonna nuke you Base! Ooookaaay, here i go!" Nathan laughed and told him he was just trolling him. All this to say, Steven is a good dad, just unconventional since he isnt around his son all the time.
Putting the chat on screen was diabolical. An hour of "So basically this guy is saying don't have sex if you don't like getting raped??!" has me malding pretty bad.
Destiny you're a real one. " Hold on! You're giving my stream pro rape advice. " " I'm muting you" . Much respect
reading this guy's chat reacting to Destiny's arguments is fucking hilarious, thanks for including that in the video
Lefty chat in response to any argument:
"??????????"
"WHAT"
"yikes"
"WTF??"
"holy fucking shit"
"WOW"
"what the fucking hell"
"oh my fucking god"
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"Oh Boi"
"That's A Hot Take"
"Did He Just?"
"BRUH"
"Again, WHAT"
"I Can't Even"
@@emperortgp2424 "HE SAID THE R WORD AGAIN!!!"
No I hate it urrgggggghhhhhhhhhh
No it makes me mad seeing so many people not be able to grasp the conversation even though hes talking through it several times and a easy way. Some even extrapolated on some shitty takes.
This is so hilarious. Dude is in panic mode immediately, realizing he has to own up to the irresponsible things he’s said.
He was in snapping turtle mode. Bite, then retract into his shell. It was awful.
10 bucks says this dude is a closet creep
You can tell the kid was abused and emotionally damaged. The giggles of joy are a dead giveaway
Also don't have casual sex with someone if you think they will be violent.
The point Destiny was trying to push was that if you’re not comfortable setting boundaries mid sex, you shouldn’t be having casual sex in the first place. It seems like a simple solution to help decrease the amount of rapes. However, I saw nobody in Duncan’s chat who understood what was being said. They were just busy being appalled at arguments Destiny was no where close to saying.
Additionally, Destiny is saying that not all agency should be placed on the man during a sexual encounter. The woman does have some power to control the sexual encounter whether that be before or during it. Destiny thinks it sucks that social media writes off any attempts at giving the woman pointers for better utilizing their agency (they write it off as victim blaming). There is a difference between victim blaming and victim criticism. The former is only meant to hurt and push blame upon the victim. The latter is meant to help the victim and those reading to better prepare/prevent becoming a victim.
A good example is of this is if a girl asks you to eat her out and you don't want. If you cannot tell her "No, I do not want ti" bc you're afraid of how awkward the situation will be, then do noy engage in sexual activity with stangers. If she forces your head into her coochie even after you state no, then thats OBVIOUSLY a completetly different situation.
This guy's constant interrupting is so annoying, and his chat is saying that Destiny is the one interrupting??? How can anyone be so delusional?
Most people are incapable of looking at an actual conversation and are projecting shit & defending their idols and ppl they ike
My impression was that destiny got interrupted a lot towards the beginning, but as the conversation progressed it evened out in terms of interruptions.
@@mechamechV2I agree. Destiny got interrupted constantly in the beginning but was interrupting the other guy more at the end.
I think he also eeked out more speaking time eventually.
What?! That was adorable and endearing! I have daughters 6 years old and an 11 year old and each of them would’ve laughed so hard at that joke. As long as you stay in good faith and are able to actively assess your child’s capacity for more complex humor, an attentive parent is totally within their right to JOKE AROUND with their kids! It’s healthy. Note: I’m only a few minutes in and only saw the first clip of game play when Steven’s son said, “you make me laugh.”
August edits in a way thats so damn informative and topical it's amazing ❤️
Thank you for not giving this guy a single ounce of the clout and attention he was chasing not even in the description
Dude is a grade A weasel. Even sort of personifies the look. The conversation is not about having an honest interaction, its about protecting his fragile ego and maintaining some sort of false sense of righteousness. Dude screams I have skeletons in my closet, don't look please.
That or he’s trying to white knight for someone . See!! I’m a good guy, please go out with me!!
just google his name and check the first 5 results... that guy apparently harrassed/threatened several teens just 2 years ago...
@@charlespictet3046 no way lmaoooo
@@charlespictet3046 whats the name of his accoun?
Idk why you are talking about his looks or that he is insecure that is irrelevant and really fucking cringe that so many people are bringing it up. The problem is his dogshit takes and chat
It’s really weird that long haired interrupter man can’t see that if you’re too scared to reiterate your boundaries in the middle of sex that you shouldn’t risk yourself because you’re too scared to confront someone and that’s making you vulnerable.
Such a performance of absolute stoic top G like wtf how did he hold that composure
This guy was annoying the crap out of me. He was consistently trying to play 4d chess by guessing where destiny was trying to go in the conversation. The problem was he didn't actually know destiny at all.
He decided what destiny's position was without understanding it then constantly tried to put destiny back in that box
Do u know this guys name? Not to comment i just like watching people with bad takes.. Gives me laughs
Destiny, you are nearing full Jedi level with your improved ability to remain calm in the presence of bullshit. Love ya man, keep up the great work!
this guys mad that a father and son are playing games together and get along so well that they can mess with each other and the kid just laughs? what a miserable dude
I'm so, so glad you include the other guy's chat in these so that at times like 44:47 when they accuse Destiny's chat of circle jerking, the irony is right next to (or under) them
This is the problem with “u mad bro” internet shit, the first half of the conversation was “are you mad” “are you upset” etc. it is okay to be mad if someone says you abuse your kid it’s also okay to “lose your shit” if someone accuses you of something heinous you are not meant as a human to have zero emotions and act as if you are an automaton this isn’t a desirable goal for humans.
Not only is it okay to be mad - being mad isn't the same as being wrong or having no argument. Like even if Destiny admitted he was mad, that doesn't make Duncan's takes correct.
Destiny fans do this too
@@pr4208 Or if you get mad in response to something, my favorite line: a hit dog will holler.
@@pr4208 Wait, I wasn't directing that at you, I was adding that as something someone might say. Ok yea, reading back it was ambiguous. Sorry about that.
Exactly this dude is acting like making baseless claims that destiny abuses nathan isnt a legitimate reason for destiny to be mad
The saddest part of this encounter was the other dude's chat. They all were outraged when Destiny said the word retarded as if he were using it as a pejorative. The word has a definition and he was using it medically, but they treated it like a cancer they treated it like the "N" word as if it can never be said, but it has an actual use and he was using it correctly. Every time he made an analogy they just assumed Destiny was racist b/c he had black people in his example even though his example was that we can't allow people to use trauma as an excuse to be racist. He literally was saying it isn't ok to be racist, but b/c he said "black people" they called him a racist. It's some of the most insane shit I've seen from a chat group. That dude's chatters are the definition of echo chamber, they even literally echoed the words w/o actually understanding the meaning or the way they were used, it was like listening to parrots. They don't even realize it was happening and I'm just sitting here with immense existential dread hoping that isn't me in anything I do or with anything i interact, please don't let that be me. Just to be safe, even though I agree with you Destiny in, I think, everything you said in this video Go Fuck Yourself. You Stupid Piece of Shit. uhh uhh You look funny and probably you don't think rationally about some of the things you say and maybe need more introspection or something, fuck i don't know.
Good comment but just so u know u can get ur account deleted by using swear words/ insults in comments. Happened to me more than once
@Lydia Even if it is being phased out; it once existed, and I think we are mature enough to understand that the word can be used not as a pejorative. A word should not make your brain shut down, nor should the mere utterance of a word make you feel a certain way. It is a word. There is NO DOUBT that people have really rough relationships with words because of past experiences, but if you find yourself as one of those people and it affects you so negatively to merely hear a word being said, I would suggest seeking help to get over that fear. A word should not have that big of a hold on you. ('you' as in a general person). It's not healthy.
The comments in general were all pure reaction and cheerleading. It must be super spacious living in the walls of a 200 viewer streamer.
@@TheHardWay71 holy moly based
*The other dude's chat IS THE WORST* Man, it sinks my soul to think this is what has happened on the left. Such moral supremacist utopian black & white rulesets, that have zero nuance, and all potential victimhood. Women are just meek fawns to these people, and men are some ruling arbiters in control of the bedroom, yet are suspect for malice. I mean, their definition of rape is sneaking a condom off during consentual sex. WOW. It's a boundary broken, but it's not a rape. Period.
this was wonderful. this guy tells you that you interrupted him twice as much and then later when you press him on it, he suddenly does not know and cant even guess as to who did it more. not to mention this guy is on a list of probably hundreds of people that destiny debated where they cant answer a simple question because they know that the question is presented so that their views can be set in stone and destiny can move on but they want to make him look bad on the point so they refuse to answer. Im a new viewer so i just unloaded alot lol. Thanks for the content Destiny.
PS, just got to the end and now this guy is saying that destiny was the one that led the debate back to the specific person even though I remember multiple times where he was the one that led the topic back to that and throughout the entire argument destiny for the most part i think is talking about society and then he only switches the topic when the other guy was. sorry if I state the obvious, i just need to get my energy out lol.
This guy said destiny talks fast, rambles, and interrupts then did exactly that the whole convo
49:48 someone in Duncan's chat unironically saying that they "leave their car unlocked because they would rather replace a cup than a window"
smartest duncan chatter
If you're an Uber driver and you're unable to confront a passenger who won't wear a seat belt then you shouldn't be an uber driver. If the passenger takes off the seat belt half way through the ride and you are unable to tell them to put it back on then you shouldn't be driving uber. If the passenger is very aggressive or angry and you feel unsafe confronting them then its reasonable to say nothing. However, anyone who's worked in customer service knows that most people are scared of being reprimanded. None of these examples put any blame on the driver for the actions of the passenger.
are you comparing rape to wearing a seatbelt /s
If you cannot control your passengers, it is dangerous to be an uber driver.
Yes.
@@ahmedshaikh7662 did you feel the wind go past your head?
@@sir.bendover3299 did you?
@@bigdawg6734 yes 😭
I'll pivot by saying it was meta humor
This guy really pisses me off, why is he trying so hard to verbally attack someone he literally knows nothing about, he doesn't even know Destiny's opinions! why are people sooooo HORNY to attack Destiny, its Extremally cringe
One word: Clout. Destiny, especially when taking a personal, not political, route of attack is just a prime target:
- already disliked by your "in group"
- not considered "dangerous" to "platform"/introduce to your audience
- likely to bring you on to actually talk to you
@@matt_9112 But he's just making himself look like an idiot! Who watches this and becomes a viewer of this guy? I don't believe they exist, I CAN'T!
"I know nothing about you besides twitter clips but it's JUST MY OPINION that you're a child abuser, get over it sweaty 💅💅💅"
But he clearly knows a lot about Destiny. He's obviously well acquainted.
it's actually worse: he knows exactly who Destiny is and just acts like he doesn't so he doesn't have to back up anything he claimed and he can appear cool/not caring :)
The upsetting thing about conversations like this is the arrogance of the individual he's chatting with. No attempt what-so-ever to actually engage and see his opponents side... :/
56:06 - my heart sunk, holy shit I cannot believe what this guy just said that. I was on the fence with Destiny, I understood where his point was coming from, but still thought it was a bit wild to play the "blame the victim" card. However, after the guy on the right starting saying that women should just basically "lay there at take it", was the nail in the coffin for me and his arguments. As a guy, the level of fear that I felt when he said that was horrible. NO ONE should lay there and be traumatized, hence why I understood where Destiny was coming from at first. That is absolutely terrifying that dude on the right would even say that casually. It is simply anti-progressive and takes away all the power from women to tell them to simply become victims of SA (let alone r*pe). I am terrified, disgusted and appalled. Destiny is being critical, but he is right. Women need to be be stern with their boundaries and be careful with who they hook up with, as well as men.
Sinister world
Seriously, look in his chat and you can see someone saying "Sometimes it's easier to just take the d and leave after". The fact that this could, even only theoretically, be a rapist tacitly encouraging this, means your stance is not a good one. "Yeah girls, guys are scary, if you speak up you might get killed, huh? ;)" - Is this a progressive worried about women or a rapist?
I do not see it as "Blame the victim". Destiny, I am guessing here, would be for the man getting in trouble for stealthing. He is not saying they should be able to stealth. He is, however, saying the woman should try to avoid BECOMING the victim by not being able to do the basic act of speaking up.
It's amazing when a male feminist is against female assertiveness.
@@claytoncourtney1309 He explicitly stated "If someone stealths you, they're a fucking asshole, leave them".
The other guy can't deal with two different things being true at once. He's got a binary mind. It's either _this_ or, _that._ Nuance is beyond his capacities.
you know someone is a special brand of scumbag when they bring up someone’s kid out of thin air so they can make a quick dunk on you
You can never trust a redcoat or an Australian or whatever he is.
But saying women who can’t defend themselves when being raped shouldn’t have casual sex is just regular everyday-brand scumbag? Lol
@@rogerbriggs8102 Since you also can't seem to understand, I'll restate this nice and slow for you. "If you cannot state your boundaries during a sexual encounter, you should not be having casual sex." This has nothing to do with "can defend themselves" as much as you want to agree with that strawman.
@@rogerbriggs8102 But saying women who didn't take martial arts shouldn't either is what?
@@kyle8971 whatever charitable reading you want to give to the phrasing has nothing to do with my point, which was that Destiny’s response is scummy. Retort that premise.
Duncan's chat was mind-numbing. An hour into the conversation and there are still comments implying that Destiny approves of rape, or proposes that rapists shouldn't be punished. And predictably, the "car theft" analogy provoked angered comments suggesting that Destiny is saying cars are basically women.
or the "why does destiny keep bringing up black people" "destiny more like destined to say racial slurs"
it's actually hilarious
Ikr. The point Destiny was trying to push was that if you’re not comfortable setting boundaries mid sex, you shouldn’t be having casual sex in the first place. It seems like a simple solution to help decrease the amount of rapes. However I saw nobody in Duncan’s chat who understood what was being said. They were just busy being appalled at arguments Destiny was no where close to saying.
@@kawanzaii8698
The echo chamber comment seemed a bit rich coming from him
They never let the "r word" shit go lmao
@@mazdaroadster-mx5 It's funny because retard is not an actual slur... it's a condition. And he never called the specific woman or rape victims retarded children, he said people like Duncan pretend they are with the advice they are giving them that removes their agency from a situation where they very much still have it.
the way destiny completely dismantles everything this guy says is fucking hilarious
That first clip was so sweet. They're just playing a game, and a sort of "fooled you" metagame. I did the same things with my siblings and it was fun. I was actually way more mean to my little brother in game, cause I would kill him in coop Halo for no reason.
Epic “making accusations about a child and father’s relationship without actually knowing anything about them” moment
Love this, at 35:38 Destiny makes probably the most to-the-point summary and statement about his position that is probably the most important thing said here, the other person reacts with maybe the worst misinterpretation possible of the statement, and his chat has a fit about Destiny using the dreaded R-word which was referring to a hypothetical woman, not any actual person, and doesn't even take in the statement. Truly incredible.
They got so stun locked it was hilarious.
very interesting watching the chats.. every point made by either party is perceived differently by each chat. Id like to see a debate where the goal is finding the truth and not just a point in the win column.
We needed the piano this stream
Bruh why is everyone going after this dude's family?
They'd do anything for clout
@@DB1Dragoon you just summed up todays society lol
Deranged leftists tend to get super personal and toxic against anyone they deem isn't on their side.
Wow. I have never seen a better example of if you don’t say something EXACTLY how I want you to, then I can’t agree with you even though you are demonstrating that I agree with you. And I have to say this is one of the best examples I have seen of Destiny holding back when he is clearly talking to someone who doesn’t understand what he’s saying. Also a pretty good example of patiently dealing with a passive aggressive person who feels they are morally superior.
“Passive aggressive person who feels they are morally superior” is the PERFECT description of this dude in this conversation. I hate when ppl act like this; It feels like a constant optics battle. Almost like high school. It’s sad that ppl still feel the need to act this way.
The constant petty patronising and looking down his nose smugly while spewing dogshit take after dogshit take was making my stomach turn.
@@aWildNelby Very true
Him and his entire chat are simpletons, and anything with nuance is code language
The clip at the beginning was so wholesome and sweet