Dealing with Cyanobacteria
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- čas přidán 1. 12. 2016
- When one of my tanks suffered an attack of Cyanobacteria, here's how I successfully treated it.
Since then, I have also tried Chemiclean: amzn.to/3274n0T and I like the results!
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Excellent, and very helpful video Rus.
colinbarsby Thank you Colin!
As always surprisingly interesting you channel and video lads great success and development of your friend 💕💕💕 Our like # 15
We bought a product from Amazon. UltraLife blue-green algae remover. It works.
Djordje Djukic great to hear! it is an antibiotic?
We have battled cyno in our South America Palu. It grew on the clay balls in the plant bed. Seachem excel and water changes worked. I like your idea of cutting the photo period. That we will do today. The cyno is gone but I don't want to create the conditions for its return. Perfect video!
FunctionBuilt-Aquatics Thanks Ron! Sorry you had to deal with the dreadful stuff as well, but glad it is gone. I like that you're taking steps to make sure it does not return. Was it growing on immersed hydro balls, or those exposed to the air?
Exposed! Then over to the Java just below the surface. I'm thinking the Iron feeds it also. I'm pretty sure it does.
What a great video! Very informative.. im dealing with it now.. Its started up in a new tank while cycling.. I used a couple handfuls of already filtered media from other tank. It started growing.. I never had it in my old tank so i have no idea how it got into this tank. I put that plant fertilizer into the tank as you just mentioned and turned off the lights and covered the tank with a big towel. So hopefully that all works! :)
Lil Val Since ai made this video I discovered Chemi-clean!
Fabulous stuff, it works quickly and is safe for fish.
You are absolutely right and this is the #1 video I send people too when they need help dealing with an outbreak. Improving overall water quality, as well as the oxygen levels, and water circulation in the tank is the best way to combat it. Also hydrogen peroxide I believe works best in low but prolonged doses with lots of water changes every day to multiple times a day. From what I understand it somehow increases the oxygen levels in the water temporarily and also kills bacteria. SO use a low enough dose to raise oxygen and not kill bacteria, that way you are only targeting the cyanobacteria and not the beneficial bacteria in your filter and substrate. Another thing I would suggest is to not change the filter pads, the filter pads are where your water is most oxygenated and is also very dark so you will probably have very little if not 0 cyanobacteria.
This is what works for me but every strain is a little different and depending on where you live or where your tank is in relation to your windows will have a significant impact on what works and what doesn't.
The Lamezone Thank you, and you have very good points! I agree--it makes senses that low doses of hydrogen peroxide over time would have the effect of increasing oxygen, and changing the filter pads would likely be counterproductive, removing the beneficial bacteria that would already be under some strain.
rubbing off from surface, daily water change, and flourish Excel worked for me!
Did you do a normal water change or do it in the substrate too? Just asking
I just got over Cyano, it killed 95% of my carpet plants. Jungle Val survived, I treated it by consistent water changes at first every other day about 50% for 3 days. Then once every 5 days, I'm now at once a week. I did do a 4 day black out on the tank and it helped A LOT!. They say once you get Cyano you will always have it so never let the conditions worsen. It likes low oxygen, high light, phosphates and ammonia. I believe I got it from my tap water. I've been boiling my tap water for 20 minutes let it sit tell cooled then water change.
Be careful when you get Cyano it is very toxic even to humans and pets when it is blooming. Make sure it is not in bloom before you play with it or your health could be at risk. If you have fish or any other creatures like shrimp snails etc. Watch them for a day before undertaking your fight with Cyano if they live I would say it isn't blooming.
:+:+:+: Hydrogen Proxide will kill the beneficial bacteria in soiled substrate! :+:+:+:
I took the time to study Cyano while I had it cause they say once you got it you will always have it...... It seems to crawl across the tank and then leak downward into your rock and substrate. Watch your glass for this effect, it actually gets light from doing this so you might want to black out the substrate up to your surface area.
WHAT TO DO TL/DR: Watch critters when you get cyano for a day. If they die its toxic tank. If they live 50% water change to remove most of what Cyano likes chemically(phosphates & ammonia). Then black out the tank for 4 days no light. I wrapped a towel around my tank & Lights out. After... remove Cyano and put a tank cover around the bottom half up to your surface level to black out any Cyano below and on the side of your tank substrate as it will feed off room light, do a water change after removing. If you don't have Oxygen pump add one ASAP. Do not attempt to fight Cyano itself fight the conditions! If need be there is Blue-Green Alge remover's at pet stores.
Fuuma Monou Great tips! I like how you said, ‘don’t fight Cyano, fight the conditions’
I have tried the Hydrogen Peroxide Method too with limited success, I found that blacking out my tank with a towel for approximately 3 days worked perfectly leaving my tank without a trace of BGA. Also my plants seemed to be unaffected by the blackout. I feel that this method subsequently allowed me to attempt to address the cause of the imbalance rather than fixating on the removal BGA.
Jonathan Marsh Good points...it is amazing how long most higher plants can go without light. I've had aquatic plants in the mail for 2'weeks without light that arrive as healthy as ever. As you say, addressing the environmental causes seems more effective than treating the symptoms. 👍
So you did the Hydrogen Peroxide method and the blackout? Did you remove your fish?
Thank you for the video and tips..so cyanobacterias can come from the air? I think probably, since every time i have a hangon filter and the blue algae starts on the exposed midia....
Marcelo 2020 you’re welcome! It could very well be, that makes sense.
This was helpful. I thought what I had was just a basic algae issue. I was so wrong. It is now so out of control. I have my tank in pure darkness right now and ordered everything I'll need to take on this garbage.
The chemiclean seams
To be the best method I have encountered so far.
I have delt with a major case of cyanobacteria. I used E. M. Erythromycin by api. I started using the hydrogen peroxide and lights out method but it kept coming back. So far it hasn't came back. 🌿🌿🌿🌿🌿🌿🌿
Terry Underwood I hope it never returns! I have since learned about Chemiclean...that works great too!
no mention of spot cleaning? what's gone is gone!
just use some air tubing. sterilize the substrate that comes with, using boiling water, before putting it back into the tank.
Cuda FX Good point! I didn’t mention spot cleaning, but as with true algae, manual removal can be an important part of the arsenal as well
I am struggling with it now.
Have cut out the light. Great reduction in the cyanobacteria.... But I am sure it will come back if I turn the light on again. Have to find out the source.
Am planning to increase the filtration as suggested by you...
Also try Chemi-clean...after this video I learned about that, and it works great!
I’m struggling with this right now. I’m also struggling with matter getting trapped on my plants along with the algae. It’s the only tank with this issue. Not even the tank I intentionally over feed (to produce snails for pea puffers) does this happen. I’m going to try getting a second filter and maybe even something to create surface agitation
Have you tried Chemi-clean? I learned about it after I made the video., for another outbreak...it works perfectly!
@@Aquarimax I haven’t, but I’m going out to look for a second HOB filter so I’ll look for that as well.
I was told about the hydrogen peroxide treatment (a lower concentration than yours, a capful in 29 gallons) but was skeptical. I was desperate so I tried it. By the next day the stuff wasn't just dead but _gone_ which I didn't understand but was happy about. I have had the problem other times and sometimes it doesn't work as well. I think it's because there are different species of cyanobacteria and some are more resistant. In those cases I just keep treating and it goes away as long as I also change half the water too. Antibiotics would kill it but also biological filter bacteria.
Zom Bee Thanks for contributing your experience👍 I agree...I think dosage and type of bacteria must play a role in the efficacy and safety of treatments. Fortunately,p with the greatly increased water flow, I have not had any recurrence of the nasty stuff.
You added 1 cap o hydrogen Peroxide? That's it? I have a 29 gallon as well. I have a little bit of this blue green algae here and there... I was going to lower the water to 50% and spray it on the plants and pull out some plants that had it on... And then use liquid CO2 the next day... 3% Peroxide?
I killed it off by treating the tank with antibiotics. 24 hours after adding the right type Myocin brand,the algae turned orange,then was gone forever from that tank.
Stan TheObserver Glad to year it worked for you 👍 since Cyanobacteria are so similar to true bacteria, it is great that antibiotics can be effective against them .
Hi!
Antibiotics can be harmfull to shrimp?
What’s the exact stuff that you used for it?
I have a betta fish in a 10 gallon tank, should I remove him before doing the Hydrogen Peroxide method? After maybe an hour? Can I do a water change (after the Hydrogen Peroxide solution) and will it still work if I do the Peroxide method, let it soak in and then do a water change as to not harm my betta?
Ethelinda Morte honestly, after this experience I would suggest erythromycin instead...safer for the fish.
I delt with it for months nothing worked tore down my tank nd cleaned the he'll out of it nd it grew back in 2 weeks I put a phosphate remover in my filter nd haven't had it since
Dan Kerns Great to know that phosphate-removing resins can be helpful, thank you!
Cyanotrol is a product I released to the hobby, it is the only product that will kill cyanobacteria and nothing else. Water quality is #1 importance to prevent algae blooms, but while you're trying to get your tank back in order, cyanotrol gives you relief and prevents future outbreaks. Check it out!
Definitely hydrogen peroxide works on cyanobacteria as well as everything else in this video. However it can also raise your tanks pH and it also can kill beneficial bacteria. Having a balanced tank is the most important. This product is to assist you in our shared goal of keeping beautiful aquascapes. I hope this helps the hobby out. Thanks for letting me share with the community.
Sir,
I have tank of almost 6 gallon. Facing some problems with cyanobactaria. Here api erythromycin is not available please suggest me how much erythromycin 200 tab I have to use for above.
Can you get Chemiclean? It seems to work extremely well.
My angelfish and platties love eating Cyanobacteria.
4u25out biocontrol is always good! 🙂👍
They arent rating cyanobacteria its toxic to all fish and people. They're eating algea.
We had a stinky blueish-green cyanobacteria in the tank at work. We tried turning off the lights & improving water quality, but it never went away (I think b/c that species formed endo spores, so even if the cells die due to lack or light or neutrients, it can come right back later.) We also bought algae eating fish & they died! It smelled sooooo bad people were throwing up!!!! We broke down the tank, put the surviving fish in an emergency container & soaked the surviving plants (Anubias & Java Ferns) in 3% peroxide for 30 seconds & then put the plants in 1 gallon water buckets & pounded them with 10 times the recommended dose of Erythromycin for a week & got a new tank & new filter & new gravel & new drift wood. We salvaged the lid of the tank by scrubbing it with 100% undliuted bleach! That was what it took to get rid of the cyanobacteria in the office tank, but that was the worst cyanobacteria infestation I've ever seen. Remember, there are many different species of cyanobacteria. Some are more persistent than others.
wcdeich4 Wow, and I thought my Cyanobacteria attack was bad... 😳Sorry to hear of such a virulent case! I'm glad you were able to take care of it though. Good point--some strains are worse than others. 👍
I'm in a the middle of treating my tank right now for Cyanobacteria. I'm using chemiclean. I have a bunch of hornwort and it started in that and began to quickly kill it off before it moved to the substrate. I took the same steps you did minus the peroxide as I've used that before and almost lost fish then. How's the tank doing now after several months? Do you still have issues with it?
Day5 Aquatics Sorry to hear that, it must be a really aggressive strain! I am happy to report that I no longer have any issues with Cyanobacteria in that tank (or others)...In my opinion the most important factors in eliminating it, I think the high water flow rates and weekly filter pad replacement prevent the cyanobacteria from gaining a foothold.
Aquarimax replaxe filter pad more often?
What do you replace, filter floss more often?
No chemicals? Also I believe cyanobacteria is not harmful to fish, in fact they eat it. It can kill animals like dogs when they drink from infected water though
Tim G it depends...from what I understand, some strains of Cyanobacteria are benign, while others can kill fish. There are chemical options to kill cyanobacteria, but in this case, higher water movement was the crucial factor. With some aggressive strains, that might not be enough.
Aquarimax Pets I hope mine is a non aggressive strain ...
They were the first creature to produce oxygen
Nature Zone indeed they were!
@@Aquarimax TASTE THE S U N
ndjkamdkja Alparslan In a sense, they were the first organism to do that too 😊
Chemiclean! Done
Sane Person I need to take a look at that...
@@Aquarimax works well. Safe for your fish and shrimp
Sane Person I’ll try it out 👍
I bought some for a recent outbreak in an aquaponics experiment of mine. It’s working well! Thank you for the suggestion!
@@Aquarimax my last outbreak was cleared up with one dose. Great stuff.