Madsen LAR: An AK for NATO!

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  • čas přidán 7. 12. 2017
  • The Madsen LAR (light automatic rifle) was an attempt by the main Danish arms manufacturer to get into the military rifle market after World War Two (they also released a bolt action rifle around the same time, the Model 47). The first version of the LAR was chambered for 7.62x39mm and submitted to Finnish testing, where it lost out to the Valmet-made Rk-62. Madsen then scaled up the working parts of the rifle and offered it in 7.62mm NATO for testing by the rest of the international military community. Unfortunately for the company, there were no takers, and the rifle was never put into serial production.
    At its mechanical heart, the Madsen LAR is a Kalashnikov system, sharing the long stroke gas piston and the exact same style of rotating bolt and bolt carrier as the AK. It uses an aluminum alloy lower receiver with steel front trunnion, and a more complex (and much more closely fitted) receiver cover. It probably would have been a quite serviceable rifle in the field, but it was both a bit too late to market and failed to offer any substantial advantage over rifles like the G3 and FAL.
    Many thanks to the Tøjhusmuseet (Royal Danish Armory Museum) for letting me have access to these very rare rifles! Check them out at: en.natmus.dk/museums/the-royal...
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  • @altongraham2549
    @altongraham2549 Před 3 lety +302

    These LEGO sets are getting more accurate each year

    • @conradsz
      @conradsz Před 3 lety +20

      I think you didn’t get the likes you deserve for your comment because people don’t realize LEGO is from Denmark.

    • @shinobi-no-bueno
      @shinobi-no-bueno Před 2 lety +6

      @@conradsz yup, I told my dad I was getting my kids Lego for Christmas and he said "aw an American classic"

    • @shinobi-no-bueno
      @shinobi-no-bueno Před 2 lety +5

      Except Lego is so weird and lefty that they refuse to produce even military vehicles

    • @Ostemikkel
      @Ostemikkel Před rokem +2

      @@shinobi-no-bueno it's cuz they did a firehelicopter to extinguish fires
      The britisk army stopped using them or sued lego idk
      But lego wouls be richer if they made war sets

    • @ukaszwalczak1154
      @ukaszwalczak1154 Před rokem +4

      @@shinobi-no-bueno 'Lefty' No, pls, don't bring politics into Lego-
      They don't make military stuff, cuz they will never produce something that causes harm. I mean, weird rule but oke, but still, lets not bring politics into lego-

  • @speedandstyletony
    @speedandstyletony Před 4 lety +654

    Madsen gun designer says to assistant -"go find me a handle for the charging lever". Assistant can't find one so he brings back the knob off of the drawer instead. Designer says -"that will work".

    • @craigdouglas9806
      @craigdouglas9806 Před 4 lety +3

      HA! IKR. I was thinking the same.

    • @donjones4719
      @donjones4719 Před 4 lety +45

      But actually... as a submission to Finland, operability while wearing heavy gloves would be desirable for as many functions as possible.

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios Před 4 lety +29

      Yeah, try charging an AK with gloves. Same reason the swedish and finnish rifles tend to have big trigger guards.

    • @fatthumbs2020
      @fatthumbs2020 Před 3 lety

      "This will work superbly"

    • @lazygravy_brook
      @lazygravy_brook Před 3 lety +2

      @@donjones4719 thats actually a rlly big brain idea on the designers part

  • @Sergeant1127
    @Sergeant1127 Před 5 lety +2151

    Does anyone else think this would fit right into the Fallout universe as a "European Assault Rifle"?

    • @DarkhalfBreed
      @DarkhalfBreed Před 5 lety +290

      I would have prefered that over the FO4 AR

    • @weirdeurasianboy8091
      @weirdeurasianboy8091 Před 4 lety +7

      😡

    • @colinmasterson666
      @colinmasterson666 Před 4 lety +31

      Yep. Totally.

    • @nickysimi9866
      @nickysimi9866 Před 4 lety +140

      Fo4 ar was ugly and looked more like a ww1 type gun. The fo3 ar is good, reminds me of a g3

    • @squgieman
      @squgieman Před 4 lety +97

      @@nickysimi9866 thats because the fallout3 ar is an HK33 with wooden furniture

  • @yaboosnubs
    @yaboosnubs Před 6 lety +1798

    Thank you Ian for protecting us from popular firearms

    • @shad8x936
      @shad8x936 Před 6 lety +60

      It is, after all, called "forgotten weapons" channel ;)

    • @Piromanofeliz
      @Piromanofeliz Před 6 lety +26

      Antonio Tyler totally, me too. But now I can't draw (with a pencil, not from a holster) a gun without designing it internally

    • @Downloadguy1995
      @Downloadguy1995 Před 6 lety +17

      Well he still is the gun jesus

    • @weirdeurasianboy8091
      @weirdeurasianboy8091 Před 4 lety +2

      He made a vid about the Intervention though 🤷‍♂️

    • @demurevilleneuvewinslet8235
      @demurevilleneuvewinslet8235 Před 2 lety +1

      @BOB+RAYGUN+PIPE=X-DAY(1995) "It is an AK on the inside", throughout the video this is mentioned repeatedly.
      And yet, I CAN'T take an AK and try to build it, to LOOK like this rifle. And I can't go to an AK manufacturer and ask them to make a replica.

  • @Ghilliedude3
    @Ghilliedude3 Před 6 lety +339

    When he says "I think this would do pretty well in mud" i could feel him fighting the urge to drop it into the wheelbarrow of mud.

    • @xmm-cf5eg
      @xmm-cf5eg Před 6 lety +8

      Try burying it in sand with the bolt open for a month.

    • @johndododoe1411
      @johndododoe1411 Před 2 lety

      There's a somewhat muddy cavalry parade ground outside the museum. Named simply Christiansborg Riding Track (Ridebane).

  • @salokin3087
    @salokin3087 Před 6 lety +1286

    Its like a g3, an ak, an M1 and a galil had a love child and this was the result
    pretty cool

    • @damiangrouse4564
      @damiangrouse4564 Před 6 lety +26

      Salokin That must have been a heck of a party but only 2 can tango to make “child”.

    • @baker90338
      @baker90338 Před 6 lety +62

      It was a eldar child.

    • @strawman5300
      @strawman5300 Před 6 lety +29

      Damian Grouse this is second gen resulting from that party

    • @dezeekat
      @dezeekat Před 6 lety +16

      galil is based on ak

    • @loogue
      @loogue Před 6 lety +19

      Zeekat Ak-->Rk-->Galil

  • @ZerakTul
    @ZerakTul Před 3 lety +72

    Fun fact, they recently changed the name of the museum to 'The War Museum' (Krigsmuseet), which should be easier to pronounce if you come to visit again!
    They were worried that the old name (Tøjhus being an old-timey word for an arsenal) was confusing people as to what the museum actually contained - probably because 'tøj' and 'hus' by themselves mean 'clothing' and 'house'. :p

    • @vizzy61
      @vizzy61 Před 9 měsíci +3

      well, if they have uniforms, it's not _entirely_ inaccurate..

    • @erik_dk842
      @erik_dk842 Před měsícem

      Didn't they just destroy thousands of weapons, when the mangement changed?

  • @MrHoodey
    @MrHoodey Před 6 lety +503

    Its like someone described the Ak, and how it worked to a Dane and the Dane than went on to build one.

    • @zuser
      @zuser Před 3 lety +11

      @@Vadim3814 Of course, they're Danes, it's an important detail.

    • @Lardum
      @Lardum Před 3 lety +11

      @@zuser Its an implied detail.

  • @SilverVraith
    @SilverVraith Před 6 lety +457

    I remember getting lost in that museum as a kid. Boy was I terrified. But man I did dig wandering the halls of awesome arms. I can highly recommend visiting if you ever find yourself in Copenhagen.

    • @Squid2650
      @Squid2650 Před 6 lety +12

      Big issue is the massive weapon collection is gone to make room for the naval museum (orlogsmuseet) on that floor, the HAWK missile is even gone from the ground floor. i took my then 7 year old kid there in the summer hollidays, and he loved it.

    • @Squid2650
      @Squid2650 Před 5 lety +8

      @@rhodesianwojak2095 The museum has changed so that what is there is 90% only applicable to danish armed forces. The ground level gun hall has even gotten a very big souvenir store now, 2nd floor is a timeline exhibit, with very period and branch focused exhibits. the main weapons collection is all gone. There is exhibits on period focused assets like german weapons used during the WW 2 occupation of Denmark.. Fun fact I will be visiting the museum a few times over the next 4-5 weeks, a tradition with my kids.

    • @Helmutlozzi
      @Helmutlozzi Před 4 lety

      @@Squid2650 Why did they remove the weapons collection??

    • @martinvagnerpind6302
      @martinvagnerpind6302 Před 4 lety +6

      @@Helmutlozzi I talked to the one of the senior curators about that. He told me that the fear of break ins was the main reason for the removal. With so many weapons they had to seal them away in containers. Also (and this is might hurt some) they destroyed some thousands standard cutlass and sabres (i don't recall the exact number). They did not want to sell them fearing so many swords on the open market.

    • @christianh4723
      @christianh4723 Před 4 lety +11

      @@martinvagnerpind6302 So they just destroyed them? Sounds pretty European to me...

  • @nestrac
    @nestrac Před 6 lety +485

    Dang ..... Hope that you had a good time in our country

    • @regendasnennensieregen5430
      @regendasnennensieregen5430 Před 6 lety +6

      The only annoying thing is the euro/kronen conversion rate and the prices in some shops. Otherwise a beautiful country.

    • @metalmadsen
      @metalmadsen Před 6 lety +41

      lostinspace013 and jerks like you! Skammer mig over din slags!

    • @hansphilipsen8498
      @hansphilipsen8498 Před 6 lety +11

      Kemas ingen grund til at blande politik ind

    • @homeopathicfossil-fuels4789
      @homeopathicfossil-fuels4789 Před 6 lety +4

      Du burde læse en fucking bog og lære hvad du snakker om før du spytter den slags mongolsk savl ud

    • @SALSN
      @SALSN Před 6 lety +25

      Wow this side thread got out of hand fast :-/

  • @Sir.suspicious
    @Sir.suspicious Před 6 lety +482

    It is a good looking rifle acctualy

    • @woodrowcall3158
      @woodrowcall3158 Před 6 lety +13

      Looks very top heavy though,

    • @XtreeM_FaiL
      @XtreeM_FaiL Před 6 lety +7

      Sir Suspicious We all have our opinions.

    • @robertkalinic335
      @robertkalinic335 Před 6 lety +3

      its like mosin assault rifle, disgusting ugliness. If u disagree compare it to sturmgewehr

    • @aleksanderolbrych9157
      @aleksanderolbrych9157 Před 6 lety +32

      Yeah, I agree, visualy it's very cool, a weird and somewhat elegant-despite-overdesigned look that mixes old-school wooden elements and parts that look like an oversized AK/M41A Pulse Rifle. I totaly dig it, looks kinda' retro-futuristic.

    • @xmm-cf5eg
      @xmm-cf5eg Před 6 lety +3

      The NATO caliber one looks too large for my standards. But I would definitely use the Finn one if provided to me in combat.

  • @Maltechr
    @Maltechr Před 6 lety +16

    Im Danish, and I'll freely admit. Before I started to watch your channel, I had no idea stuff like this was in our history.. Pretty cool, thank you!

    • @ethanor
      @ethanor Před rokem

      Well, the only successful Madsen weapon was the LMG from the end of the 19th century. Pretty much all their own weapons after that was a failure

  • @doorguner01
    @doorguner01 Před 6 lety +235

    That collapsing carry handle genius!

    • @scottwatrous
      @scottwatrous Před 6 lety +5

      I did enjoy seeing it. Not like it's very different from the carry handle of a standard ammo can so it's common stuff.

    • @doorguner01
      @doorguner01 Před 6 lety +12

      Scott Watrous The reason I said that is because they added It to the rifle to carry it and collapsed down out of the way unlikesome of the others that's fixed!

    • @doorguner01
      @doorguner01 Před 6 lety +1

      Reckless Roges the same with the side folding ones like the m249saw,m60 etc

    • @doorguner01
      @doorguner01 Před 6 lety +1

      The Stoned Videogame Nerd oh and the sights on top of the carry handle
      Drastically Changes were the bore of you're barrel is actual aimed and were you're line of sight is actual looking at, the butt stock has nothing to do with the carry handle or the iron sights

    • @doorguner01
      @doorguner01 Před 6 lety

      The Stoned Videogame Nerd that's true but this solution they had minimized that you can also smash your hand ask how i know" with a Ammo can we buy fat fifty cal and standard one's for tool boxs.

  • @karlnemo8658
    @karlnemo8658 Před 2 lety +7

    Looks like a G3 and a SIG 550 had a fling, and LARry was the result. And somebody has been taking care of the furniture. Wood looks in _great_ shape. Kudos to the curator, and thanks to Ian for showing us another forgotten marvel of engineering. For it's not just a gun; it demonstrates _ingenuity_ to come up with something like that. Not many systems with the recoil spring _inside_ the gas tube.

  • @Dieselkraftwerk
    @Dieselkraftwerk Před 6 lety +101

    While some Design choices might be quistionable the manufacturing quality of the gun seems really high. Beautifully build gun

    • @johndododoe1411
      @johndododoe1411 Před 2 lety +1

      It's an original prototype, not a production unit.

  • @amandahammond2691
    @amandahammond2691 Před 6 lety +52

    Those are both gorgeous rifles

  • @talesofshatou
    @talesofshatou Před 6 lety +96

    That's an extremely cool looking museum.

    • @topcat5700
      @topcat5700 Před 6 lety +12

      It is extremely awesome, going from medieval to modern times. Loads of stuff to see.

    • @jegergladformad86
      @jegergladformad86 Před 6 lety +2

      do the still have that WWII german 357mm piece from Hansted displayed in the court yard?

    • @tropisk.
      @tropisk. Před 4 lety

      did the germans use cheat codes. perhaps

    • @klauslehrmann4927
      @klauslehrmann4927 Před 4 lety

      Tak. You'll be wellcome here/there.

    • @erikrungemadsen2081
      @erikrungemadsen2081 Před 3 lety

      Great for gun nuts, sword nuts, history nuts and nuts in general. I will also recommend it for kids. Usually alot of interactivity and nice staff.

  • @JohnDoe-pv2iu
    @JohnDoe-pv2iu Před 3 lety +10

    Between the wafer thin sides of the stock and the mainspring being housed inside the gas system, I can see why no one adopted this rifle. That mainspring would be subject to so much heat, especially with automatic fire, that I couldn't imagine it holding any sort of temper.
    Yall Take Care and be safe, John

  • @Clay3613
    @Clay3613 Před 6 lety +95

    Seeing the wood on an otherwise modern looking rifle feels weird.

  • @jumperharz6270
    @jumperharz6270 Před 6 lety +23

    That is the sort of video i enjoy the most. A truly forgotten weapon. Love everything else aswell though.
    Greetings from Germany

  • @lassea
    @lassea Před 5 lety +14

    I love rifles which have the look of the modern(ish) rifle and still use wood in furniture. They look so nice

  • @michaelspence3675
    @michaelspence3675 Před 3 lety +10

    That's beautiful, I would LOVE to have one, even in semi auto. Such a shame they are so rare

  • @MDPToaster
    @MDPToaster Před 6 lety +45

    You make such great and informative videos, you definitely deserve a spot on CZcams rewind 2018.

    • @mads918
      @mads918 Před 6 lety +5

      I lolled

    • @strawman5300
      @strawman5300 Před 6 lety +23

      Mr.Dr.Professor Toaster no. This is actualy good. For being on the rewind you must reache a minimal lvl of dull and awefull.

    • @user-bfg9000
      @user-bfg9000 Před 6 lety +16

      CZcams hates guns

    • @JonJonGTA
      @JonJonGTA Před 6 lety +11

      And be a SJW. I'm sure Ian like most of us don't even want to be a mile close to the people that get picked for CZcams rewind.

  • @ristoalanko9281
    @ristoalanko9281 Před 6 lety +5

    A young Madsen designer: "Sir, here we have the new black rifle!" - An elderly Danish general: "Where is the beech stock? A rifle has to have a wooden stock" .... I'm sure the Finns never required a wooden stock, because the Valmet managed to get adopted without one. Great video, Ian! Those trial rifles must have been somewhere in storage, I've seen the normal display items several times!

  • @Jonas-bl4cz
    @Jonas-bl4cz Před 6 lety +234

    This is so great! I feel most Danish firearms are forgotten by Danes themselves.
    Was it hard getting to take a look at this one? I've always had a feeling that stuff like this is hard getting permission to do from them.

    • @ajesbayes9057
      @ajesbayes9057 Před 6 lety +43

      As a dane i didnt know this rifle existed and you are right, its a damn shame.
      (also, the hell Ian??? You ought to notify us when you come to denmark :///)

    • @emilchristensen1268
      @emilchristensen1268 Před 6 lety +17

      As a dane, i can confirm.

    • @Masseffect1601
      @Masseffect1601 Před 6 lety +34

      Ajesbayes He did warn us and there was even a meet up... Well for us patreon supporters.

    • @theordinarytime
      @theordinarytime Před 6 lety +42

      I must say I find danish military firearm designing sort of amusing. Except for the 1902 LMG (which you may argue they were a little too early to the party) they seem to be experts at being late to the party.
      1946: Denmark be like: LOOK GUYS! I've made this cheapo Submachine gun!
      Everyone else: Yeah, we've had them for like 10 years now.
      1947, Denmark be like: LOOK GUYS! I've made arguably the best military bolt action rifle in the world!
      Everyone else: Aww that's good Denmark, but.. We all switched to semi auto rifles.
      Late 50s: Denmark be like: LOOK GUYS! I've finally came around to make a decent Battle/Assault rifle!
      Everyone else: Should I choose G3, FAL or M14, and what's this CETME, have you seen those Soviet shootas? Um? What you say Denmark?

    • @Jonas-bl4cz
      @Jonas-bl4cz Před 6 lety +14

      I feel we've been incredibly conservative when it comes to joining new development trends. The few times we've tried to be on the cutting edge of things, it rarely went that well. Either because it wasn't received as well as it "should have", like the Madsen LMG.. Or it just sucked, like our fancy electric cars of the 80's.
      I guess we just ended up with a culture of trying to play it safe, and let others take the risks with the cutting edge stuff.

  • @emilhajbert5326
    @emilhajbert5326 Před 6 lety +154

    As a dane i've been waiting for this!

    • @Grobut81
      @Grobut81 Před 6 lety +2

      Me too! I was afraid Ian might never get a chance to look at these, as they are very rare guns indeed, so it was very cool to see this vid pop up in my notifications.

    • @emilhajbert5326
      @emilhajbert5326 Před 6 lety +5

      He will upload more from Tøjhusmuseet, and i can't wait to see what it is.

    • @BushmasterXM15E2S
      @BushmasterXM15E2S Před 6 lety

      Do you own any guns?

    • @emilhajbert5326
      @emilhajbert5326 Před 6 lety +2

      BushmasterXM15E2S Not yet because Demark does not have a right to bear arms and i'm only 18

    • @SkolopenderDK
      @SkolopenderDK Před 6 lety +2

      Emil Hajbert betyder ikke at du ikke kan eje skydevåben, du skal bare have jagt tegn eller skv

  • @StephenStine
    @StephenStine Před 6 lety +17

    what an intriguing design. first thing comes to mind seeing this is a Galil

    • @CaptainGrief66
      @CaptainGrief66 Před 6 lety +1

      Stephen Stine
      So an AK? You know, the first generation of Galil rifles were AK copies in 5.56mm.

    • @tostie3110
      @tostie3110 Před 6 lety +3

      I thought it looked like an M1 carbibe had a child with an AK

  • @Keichwoud357
    @Keichwoud357 Před 6 lety +366

    Gun Jesus is within 20 km of me?

    • @Ivan-gb3gn
      @Ivan-gb3gn Před 6 lety +12

      same, I have been in danish national museum like 3 hours ago (Not the same that Ian is in, but 5 min walk from it)

    • @iGottaRandomName
      @iGottaRandomName Před 6 lety +27

      If you were on patreon, you would have been invited to a meet-up in copenhagen.

    • @Masseffect1601
      @Masseffect1601 Před 6 lety +2

      He was

    • @dreamingflurry2729
      @dreamingflurry2729 Před 6 lety +5

      Fall on your knees and WORSHIP, gun peasant :D

    • @emilhajbert5326
      @emilhajbert5326 Před 6 lety +4

      Actually no, because he filmed this 2-3 months ago, sorry...

  • @cupcakecomrade2378
    @cupcakecomrade2378 Před 3 lety +13

    damn they are large, i thought it was just H3VR that had them oversized.

    • @Dja05
      @Dja05 Před 2 lety

      Same here, just got this gun in h3vr and I was like "bruh... WTF is this lego gun shit... Oh... It's finish... That explains it..."

  • @peterkluwer8913
    @peterkluwer8913 Před 6 lety +6

    Its so nice to see you have come to Denmark! I hope you enjoyed your stay!!

  • @spencerc7819
    @spencerc7819 Před 6 lety +1

    Thanks for the video! You never fail to find increasingly obscure rifles that I never knew I needed...

  • @esporev
    @esporev Před 3 lety

    This is the best background you have in any of your videos, they’re usually pretty simple but well done but this one is very nice with the museum in the background... very cool... great video

  • @vchalmel
    @vchalmel Před 6 lety +7

    Those things are gorgeous. Wonderful woods... nice ak variants.

  • @ChrisRoblesSenior
    @ChrisRoblesSenior Před 6 lety +12

    That's a beautiful rifle!

  • @maxgreig7356
    @maxgreig7356 Před 6 lety

    Thanks for all the work you do to bring us such amazing content.

  • @stevotv6457
    @stevotv6457 Před 6 lety +1

    Glad you did this review. I have always admired the LAR, mostly for it's looks, (kinda like my admiration of the AR-16) but it appears to be a very well machined product. Glad the museum gave you access to their artifacts.

  • @rasdread0989
    @rasdread0989 Před 4 lety +4

    I like how ian kept it cool when they just decided to film this in the museum front

  • @danditto4864
    @danditto4864 Před 4 lety +3

    That is a great Museum; one of the best parts of my trip to Copenhagen. The Naval collection upstairs and military hat collection is really great.

  • @CowboyWubWub
    @CowboyWubWub Před 6 lety

    I’ve been waiting for you to make a video on these rifles since I found your channel. Glad it finally happened!

  • @DominusRexDK
    @DominusRexDK Před 6 lety

    Wauw!!! you actually got a hold of one. much envy. and so happy that we finally get a video on this gun. having been the guy who have requested and hoped for it, for years. its nice so nice that others now are made aware of, what to me at-least, is one of the prettiest military styled battle rifles ever made.

  • @pLAST3RdISAST3R
    @pLAST3RdISAST3R Před 5 lety +3

    Man, I wish I had known about this place when I was visiting Cobnhavn back in 2006, my aunt and I went to Tivoli Gardens instead. One thing I'll never forget is how strange the cartoons were on T.V..

  • @paint_thinner
    @paint_thinner Před 6 lety +56

    This seems like a gun more "enthusiasts" should know about.

    • @ethanor
      @ethanor Před rokem

      Well, according to the Internet Movie Firearms Database, it's featured in all of one videogame (a VR game to boot) and 0 movies, so it would be hard for them to know it even exists. I only found the video because I found the gun on wikipedia after looking though all the weapons Madsen A/S made

    • @TheMegaPingasMobile
      @TheMegaPingasMobile Před rokem

      @@ethanor which game?

  • @jacobvestergaard9097
    @jacobvestergaard9097 Před 6 lety +1

    YES! I've been waiting for this gun for a loooong time! Hope you enjoyed our country!

  • @556boris
    @556boris Před 4 lety +1

    The field stripping process is really elegantly done. Looks like a really well made rifle too.

  • @obama-san958
    @obama-san958 Před 6 lety +15

    Im danish, and i have been to the museum more than once. I understand why its hard to pronounce, its a tricky language.

    • @giplon
      @giplon Před 5 lety +1

      Obama-san the museum has change its name from Tøjhusmuseet to Krigsmuseet (war museum) not even us danes understood the meaning of the old name

  • @Mixu.
    @Mixu. Před 3 lety +3

    As much as I love our service rifles as a Finn, these have seemed extremely interesting to me for a while now

  • @jeremiahcherry5283
    @jeremiahcherry5283 Před 3 lety

    All of those variants look awesome.

  • @loupiscanis9449
    @loupiscanis9449 Před 3 lety

    Thank you , Ian .

  • @Backertothegrave
    @Backertothegrave Před 6 lety +7

    That rifle is dope.

  • @GustavMeyrink
    @GustavMeyrink Před 6 lety +8

    The pistol grip looks so much like danish furniture design!

  • @stevebrown8745
    @stevebrown8745 Před 5 lety +1

    These are beautiful. I love the position of the safety.

  • @lukapaic7560
    @lukapaic7560 Před 5 lety

    This channel is amazing love this guy his videos are on point very educational

  • @erikliljeberg1796
    @erikliljeberg1796 Před 4 lety +4

    What a nice looking rifle Denmark, greetings from Sweden!

  • @PaltryPete
    @PaltryPete Před 6 lety +15

    Hopes that there's more from Tøjhusmuseet!

    • @ForgottenWeapons
      @ForgottenWeapons  Před 6 lety +15

      Yes, a couple more that will post over the next few months.

  • @TheParallellinial
    @TheParallellinial Před 4 lety +1

    Seriously, the design of this rifle looks absolutely beautiful!

  • @littleteethkeith
    @littleteethkeith Před 6 lety +1

    I love the way those look.

  • @jaymassengill3340
    @jaymassengill3340 Před 6 lety +75

    The thigh bone's connected to the bolt carrier...

  • @m2hmghb
    @m2hmghb Před 6 lety +19

    I am quite curious as to how accurate the rifle is. It looks like it would be capable of decent accuracy.

  • @patherek7914
    @patherek7914 Před 5 lety

    Ian, I want to personally thank you for giving me the opportunity to learn about numerous guns, and operating systems :).

  • @nat040496
    @nat040496 Před 6 lety +1

    Absolutely gorgeous, especially with the wooden stock. I need one.

  • @thegoldencaulk2742
    @thegoldencaulk2742 Před 6 lety +222

    Next you should check out the Armalite for USSR, the AR-10 in 7.62x39 that was trailed in Finland

    • @genericpersonx333
      @genericpersonx333 Před 6 lety +88

      Good Mr. TheGoldenCaulk, please be kind to the Finns and don't say that the AR10 in 7.62mm/39mm was the USSR's Armalite. The Finns trialed the gun you mention specifically to fight the USSR, and I think Finland earned the right in 1940 to not be considered a friend of the Russian Empire/USSR in any way. If not for me, do it for Varusteleka, who may send agents after you if they find out. :)
      However, I agree, it would be very good of Ian if he could find one to show off such a genuinely forgotten weapon.

    • @Tripp426
      @Tripp426 Před 6 lety +38

      It was trailed in Finland? By who? Did they ever catch up to it?

    • @truktronton88
      @truktronton88 Před 6 lety +13

      Eustace Stritchers shut up

    • @blackore64
      @blackore64 Před 6 lety +16

      Eustace Stritchers That didn't stop Finland from having good relations with USSR and trading with them. Most of the cold war Finnish military vehicles were bought from USSR.

    • @steadly3668
      @steadly3668 Před 6 lety +4

      TheGoldenCaulk Finland wasn't ussr

  • @robertjoergensen
    @robertjoergensen Před 6 lety +79

    Velkommen til Danmark! :D

  • @programmer437
    @programmer437 Před 6 lety

    Great episode.

  • @soarDK
    @soarDK Před 3 lety +2

    It's also worth noticing that on the last rifle the firing modes have been changed as well. Now it goes from 'safe' directly to 'auto' and then have 'semi' in the furthest away position. The others had 'safe' -> 'semi' -> 'auto'.

  • @Russkiman96
    @Russkiman96 Před 6 lety +38

    never understood the concept of making the ak so much more complicated

    • @qazwedssaq3345
      @qazwedssaq3345 Před 6 lety +1

      Russkiman96 maybe better tolerance and more accurate. I'm not really sure myself.

    • @mpetersen6
      @mpetersen6 Před 6 lety +13

      An AK leaves the factory with a "I could of been a Madsen" bumper sticker

    • @xmm-cf5eg
      @xmm-cf5eg Před 6 lety +2

      The Modern AK's are a little more complicated compared to the AKM, but this rifle seems to overdo it.

    • @dphalanx7465
      @dphalanx7465 Před 4 lety

      @@mpetersen6 The Navy SEALS liked to grab samples of various world ARs and BatRifles. In Vietnam, they tested early models of CETMEs & G3s. Im surprised they never grabbed any of these in 7.62x39 as a smooth-functioning AR that would run on enemy ammo.

    • @1014p
      @1014p Před 3 lety

      Actually simplified in a compact way.

  • @stevotv6457
    @stevotv6457 Před 5 lety +3

    I always love listening to Ian. He usually makes me laugh at least once during every review. This one contains the phrase "veritable smorgashbord"....which MUST be a Danish word. LOL

    • @MumrikDK
      @MumrikDK Před 4 lety +3

      That would be Swedish.

  • @pommel47
    @pommel47 Před 6 lety

    Ian, So glad you went to this museet. I visited there about 20 years ago and it was the highlight of my tour of Copehagen. I will never forget the ornately decorated wheel-locks which were gifts to the Danish Kings. I will definitely be funding you in 2018(100th anniversary of Armistice Day), so you can continue your much appreciated work. I am now going to watch your WW1 proposed archeology video. Keep up the good work !

  • @honkhonk6443
    @honkhonk6443 Před 4 lety +1

    i watch this every time i see it, i just soooo much love the aesthetics

  • @CheeseDanish85
    @CheeseDanish85 Před 6 lety +3

    Just adding another thanks from a Dane. Hope you had a good time in Denmark. Sorry about the sky-high prices. If you get a chance, visit the west coast. Beautiful sandy beaches with grassy dunes - and you get away from the city-slickers.

  • @asgerlindbjerg3326
    @asgerlindbjerg3326 Před 6 lety +82

    I see something danish, I press like

    • @littleteethkeith
      @littleteethkeith Před 6 lety +1

      Xegt Cookies especially.

    • @Floris_VI
      @Floris_VI Před 6 lety

      So you didn't like?
      Edit: i'm a bloody ideot, i heard him saying finnish the whole time.

  • @Warranty_Droid
    @Warranty_Droid Před 2 lety

    its cool to see you in denmark covering some of our more or less forgotten weapons, never knew we made these til i found this vid

  • @TheArmy1775
    @TheArmy1775 Před rokem

    I’ve totally been to this museum. Very cool Ian.

  • @SearTrip
    @SearTrip Před 6 lety +4

    Pikes! Real long arms!

  • @kennyvancleave2422
    @kennyvancleave2422 Před 6 lety +20

    It's like a surgical tool compared to an AK. Beautiful!

    • @xmm-cf5eg
      @xmm-cf5eg Před 6 lety +12

      I direct you to the AN-94, which by these analogies is a rocket-powered chainsaw.

    • @fireblazesmobileaccount2607
      @fireblazesmobileaccount2607 Před 6 lety +2

      7.62 x39mm Only Kraut Space magic compares to that.

    • @NaruSanavai
      @NaruSanavai Před 6 lety +1

      Don't tell Doomguy about that. He'll start ripping and tearing everything to find a rocket-powered chainsaw.

    • @bmxriderforlife1234
      @bmxriderforlife1234 Před 6 lety +2

      idk the an 94 is pretty badass but i think id almost rather go for an am 180 due to reliability. apparently the an 94 has jamming issues. also its rate of fire is only a little faster then the 180.

  • @TheBlandetgodt
    @TheBlandetgodt Před 6 lety +1

    Uhh welcome to Denmark Ian !
    Thanks for being here, you are awesome, and the Tøjhus museum is awesome.

  • @ronaldmasterbud1551
    @ronaldmasterbud1551 Před 4 lety +1

    That's A Pretty Slick Rifle, Very Elegant Design. And Looks Very Smooth in Operation... I Would Enjoy Owning One.

  • @NovaXP
    @NovaXP Před 4 lety +5

    Does anyone know how the dovetail mounts at 7:29 would work? Those seem spaced pretty far apart, so are they only intended for larger optics? What kind of sights could you mount on that model?

  • @Procket12
    @Procket12 Před 6 lety +4

    I wonder why nobody thought of the flexible spring loaded dust cover that allows the bolt to push it out of the way until the FN FNC.

    • @Procket12
      @Procket12 Před 6 lety

      SonsOfLorgar what army did you serve in? Belgium or Sweden? Your user name has me leaning towards Sweden. Lol

    • @Procket12
      @Procket12 Před 6 lety

      SonsOfLorgar and yeah. Better the spring and the cover be full of crap than the fire control group.

    • @Aalienik
      @Aalienik Před 6 lety +1

      Judging from the username, he served either in the Colchisian army or the XVII Legion ;)

    • @xmm-cf5eg
      @xmm-cf5eg Před 6 lety

      I really wish more countries would use the FN-FNC, I love that rifle and wish I had one.

    • @Procket12
      @Procket12 Před 6 lety

      If I was going to use one, I'd spring for the Swedish Version, it's got a few improvements like having last round bolt hold open.

  • @reecethurman4714
    @reecethurman4714 Před 3 lety

    I love how this looks

  • @av0-cad03
    @av0-cad03 Před 6 lety

    Those are some beautiful rifles

  • @aljr357
    @aljr357 Před 6 lety +43

    I’d love to own one of these or any other ak but being in Canada and not listening to my best friends dad in the 90s I won’t be able to get one anymore. He bought a bunch of sks and aks rifles back then and wanted me to buy a few because he knew they would be getting banned soon and having ones that were imported before the ban would stay legal and he was right. The sks has to be turned in because it became fully automatic all on its own after about 50 rounds ir started giving 3 round bursts and after 150 it was just fully automatic and almost un controllable.

    • @amandahammond2691
      @amandahammond2691 Před 6 lety +13

      allan fulton Sounds like it's slamfiring. Make sure the bolt/carrier is clean and it should be fine

    • @TheGorillafoot
      @TheGorillafoot Před 6 lety +4

      It's kinda strange how you can have ARs, but not AKs there.

    • @nindger4270
      @nindger4270 Před 6 lety +29

      About as strange as the import ban in the US, and maybe for the same reason. Protectionism disguised as gun control laws.

    • @Ace12GA
      @Ace12GA Před 6 lety +14

      A lot of the laws specified specific firearms by name, not general configuration. You can totally have a SKS rifle in Canada though. My kid brother bought a surplus crate of the things (5 packed in grease paper) a couple of years ago, along with some surplus ammo; around 5000 rounds. There are all sorts of odd exceptions though. You can totally buy a XCR in semi in Canada with no problems. Same goes for the FN SCAR L and H. So long as they are semi, no problem. Further, you can get some AK pattern rifles in Canada, but they are super expensive. The Valmet Hunter M78, for example. Anything full auto is prohibited, and frankly I don't have an issue with that. It's fun, but a good semi is just as fun in my experience. Heck, my favourite rifle is a Ruger 10/22, because it's cheap to run, and fun to shoot. I can't afford to run my larger calibre stuff like I can a .22lr.

    • @braedengriffiths4249
      @braedengriffiths4249 Před 6 lety +9

      Ummmm that ban had been repealed, a while ago actually. People kicked up a pretty big fuss and the RCMP said it was a stupid law to put in place. So knock your socks off and buy one now if ya wants mate!

  • @fibrewire08
    @fibrewire08 Před 6 lety +3

    Ah Denmark my favourite holiday location. I wonder if Ian has ventured up north while he was there to look at the remnants of the Atlantik Wall. If I remember correctly there are nice examples up in Skagen or near Løkken. If not here's a nice idea for a future video

  • @dshrecksBW
    @dshrecksBW Před 2 lety +1

    Looking at them in thumbnail: Oh, that's a neat little compact rifle.
    Looking at them next to gun Jesus: Holy, crap those are massive!

  • @Scooby556
    @Scooby556 Před 6 lety +1

    Nice, I was just there in October. Fantastic Museum.

  • @TheGorillafoot
    @TheGorillafoot Před 6 lety +39

    Cool rifles, but way over engineered IMO. Probably why they were never adopted. The look really expensive.

    • @Grobut81
      @Grobut81 Před 6 lety +13

      The price really was what killed it from what i've read. There's not a lot of data out there on the military trials it was part of, but what there is seems to indicate that the LAR did very well in trials functionally, but it was noticably more expensive than the G3 and FAL (which were already proven designs and a safe bet at the time), and nobody felt it offered enough to justify the added cost.
      Perhabs if they had given the LAR another R&D run, to trim the fat and simplify it as much as possible, it could have been a thing.

    • @GundamReviver
      @GundamReviver Před 6 lety +1

      my thoughts too. like the ak itsself, it needed a "we dont have the money Ivan, make it cheeper!"-design round.

    • @martinjuulandersen9694
      @martinjuulandersen9694 Před 5 lety +6

      It was more an issue that the homemarked (Denmark) got Marshall arms. So no incentive to for Danish military to buy them. They had the M1 up to 1975 as the main rifle (and it stayed around untill late nineties, start twothousand) when the army adopted the G3 (M/75) by then Madsen was out of business. A shame really...

    • @wynfrithnichtwo8423
      @wynfrithnichtwo8423 Před 3 lety

      @@martinjuulandersen9694 that is terribly sad.

  • @Dimetropteryx
    @Dimetropteryx Před 6 lety +7

    Just waiting for someone to exclaim that the Finns should have adopted this reject instead of the AK.

  • @footbroke
    @footbroke Před 3 lety

    That's one hell of a good looking rifle. That's an incredibly aesthetic rifle.

  •  Před 6 lety

    So cool to see this gun reviewed by you. Greetings from Denmark :)
    Seeing you at Tøjhusmuseet is quite the experience!

  • @gooondie
    @gooondie Před 6 lety +6

    *likes before watching*

  • @Procket12
    @Procket12 Před 6 lety +6

    I don't know. Michael Madsen sounds a lot more badass than Michael "Massen".

    • @baltichammer6162
      @baltichammer6162 Před 6 lety

      Sounds like Dutch as Maasen is fairly common name in Klommpen Land. LOL

    • @Procket12
      @Procket12 Před 6 lety

      That was just a way to try and spell how the Danish pronounce Madsen. Michael Madsen is Danish and Irish.

    • @NaruSanavai
      @NaruSanavai Před 6 lety

      Michael "Mad Son" Madsen.

  • @Spike-13
    @Spike-13 Před 6 lety

    Wow! That's pretty cool, thanks Ian

  • @lcl7wrkr
    @lcl7wrkr Před 3 lety

    Nice of them to allow you the opportunity to inspect these!

  • @lakewooded4929
    @lakewooded4929 Před 6 lety +7

    Smorgasbord is Swedish. The Danish word is buffet. :-)

  • @zadyeDK
    @zadyeDK Před 6 lety +14

    DÆ DANSK!

  • @andrewithtaylora9666
    @andrewithtaylora9666 Před 3 lety

    I really like how the wood goes across the lower reciver.

  • @BPedo8IGHT
    @BPedo8IGHT Před 3 lety +1

    You weren't even close to saying the name of the place, but I'm really happy you're covered a danish gun.

  • @philips.5563
    @philips.5563 Před 6 lety +45

    If the D is silent in Danish pronunciation, would we pronounce it as "Anish"?
    I'll stop now.

    • @andrewsuryali8540
      @andrewsuryali8540 Před 6 lety +26

      Song in Silence The nation of Enmark welcomes you.

    • @philips.5563
      @philips.5563 Před 6 lety +13

      Thank you so much for your frienly wors.

    • @HimmelGanger
      @HimmelGanger Před 6 lety +9

      Well...considering that it isn't Denmark in Danish, but rather Danmark, I don't know the rules of written Danish, as a Norwegian I can read it perfectly, but I suspect there are rules regarding how the d is pronounced, in relationship to where in the word, with which letter the d is, governs if it is silent or sounded. Good example in English is knife, where the k is silent, where as in Norwegian it is kniv, and the k is pronounced.

    • @philips.5563
      @philips.5563 Před 6 lety +5

      Andreas Bach Lindsmann t that is very interesting. Thank you.

    • @andrewsuryali8540
      @andrewsuryali8540 Před 6 lety +2

      Himmelganger Off-topic, but the k in English words like knife and knight was not silent in old pre-Norman English when the language was more Northern Germanic. Knife was pronounced kni-veh with a prominent k.

  • @damiangrouse4564
    @damiangrouse4564 Před 6 lety +81

    Ok, so it doesn’t take AK mag but, how bout glock mags? Sorry...

    • @damiangrouse4564
      @damiangrouse4564 Před 6 lety +6

      kyubey, the cute little devil And you took it to next lower level...sometimes is better to remain silent, Moron.

    • @JonJonGTA
      @JonJonGTA Před 6 lety +3

      Can anyone explain how this glock mags started and why its so popular? I once told someone as a crappy joke that submachine gun was belt feed only to get negative responses.

    • @damiangrouse4564
      @damiangrouse4564 Před 6 lety +5

      Jonathan probably when kel-tec or some other company started making guns that take glock mags. It’s become a joke about a joke.

    • @damiangrouse4564
      @damiangrouse4564 Před 6 lety +1

      kyubey, the cute little devil Obviously!

    • @lucascebulla5784
      @lucascebulla5784 Před 5 lety

      I think the real question is does it take Ruger 22lr mags

  • @kenhelmers2603
    @kenhelmers2603 Před 6 lety

    Good looking rifles. Thanks for sharing them with us :)

  • @shitwardtesticles4840
    @shitwardtesticles4840 Před 2 lety

    What a cool AK retexture