If you place 4/10 lay it only pays 1:2 plus vig, so if a 7 wipes out 6/8, you're only getting back half of the winnings, plus if you roll a 4/10, you lose the lay bet each time. You can absolutely lose with this one.
Another variation, since you inspire such creativity, Waylon: So, been playing at $5 level on crapsee and watching the pay history. I noticed that each loss is 1 unit or a bit more (once vig is included) So risk is ~ one unit on a loss(4.7.10) On a win, press the risk. Say you're at ladder step 3 and have lost ~3 units (2 losses) Win =~3 units. Press up 3 units and win ~6 for total of ~9 on second hit. I get so excited when i see you start a strat that i switch over after 5 minutes and start crapsee and follow along. So $5 lay 4&10 $5 place 6&8 Up won unit on a win for one hit. Ladder up one unit on a loss. A lot of Bankroll needed due to the laddering , but risk is not laddered up so much. Nice one Waylon.
For real this is my new favorite strategy. I can't believe you hit that many 4 and 10 and you still made BIG BIG money and this shows how strong this strategy is. I know where Waylon is going in the next few days The Casino. THANKS for all you do!!!
Thanks ! If you're laddered up high your first win bring it down 2 levels is a smart move also! Take a look at br and go from there! I'm thinking every other win is a 2 level drop with this one or close to it
$4600 profit on a $5000 bankroll🎉👍👍 Great strategy Waylon...despite Randy! ...hey...I even got some recognition from Waylon for all the badly placed 4 & 10's and those 7's...like Waylon says...Nobody can toss 7's and 4's & 10's like old Random Randy!!🤪🤪
Love this, Waylon!! Could actually cut your risk IN HALF by simply laying $200 on JUST the 4 INSTEAD of $100 on the 4 AND 10...(goes from 16 ways to win vs 6 ways to lose DOWN to 16 ways to win and JUST 3 WAYS TO LOSE!!!) I'll take those odds any day of the week!!!!! ;) Keep up the good work!!!
The Waylon Warlock is at it again fellers😂! Bankroll pressure, laddering, is a necessary part of winning at this game. You prove that over & over & over & over again. Saw in a chat one day some JAFU arguing about laddering doesn’t work. Then watch his video and he’s pressing his bets, what does he think that is? Dummy doesn’t realize that’s laddering, just not on a same unit level and only half a unit. Does any casino give you grief for the 6/8 not on the easy math unit size? I know you show the $100 level to make dealing easier. Very easy to just lay 4/10 at $120 and 6/8 place at $120 while at the casino. But I would think the dealer would rather have the 6/8 at $100 units, less hassle for them not dealing all those red chips? Thanks again Brother for all your effort & hard work. God’s Blessings!
Thanks brother! No my Casinos don't mind paying the 6&8 at 100$ increments! It's easier for them! Good dealers mostly! If they did I would just do 90$ increments on everything everytime ! No biggie
I have been playing craps for years and this may be the best strategy I've seen. I have not tried it at the real tables. But I have played it on the wizardofodds craps simulator many times and I can't make this system lose. The strange thing is even when you think you are getting killed (with 4's and 10's and 7's), if you follow the game plan and ladder up, it still works.! I must admit that if I try this in the real casino at the real table, I would probably get nervous on level 5 or 6....Thanks for posting this unique but profitable way to play craps.
I did play this at the $30 level at the casino with a $2000 bank row got to level five one time very scary the dealers were laughing and then he hit three 6 and 8in a row got back down cashed out over $500 profit
So simple gotta run this thru crapsee all night. One change I'm trying so far: two hits when laddering up. Brings back a lot.. I almost wanted it to hit 4.7.10 a couple times first. Lay410 and place 68 are lowest house edge.. this makes so much sense.. the only hole is a really long run of 4.7.10 10 ways to win 12 ways to lose
If you want to lower risk play a hard ways 4 and 10 for $25 each at base level-make $175 when hard 4-10--now you got 2 more ways to win $175 for only $25, And drop risk from loss of 12 ways to 10. An idea🤔
Played this on the $30 level done awesome made over $500 in less than 45 minutes at the casino had a $2000 bank row did get to level five one time Kinda was scary😅
I watched the video again several times. I was thinking a $60 lay on the 4 and 10, $30 on the 6 and 8. Go up to a $96 lay and $48 6 and 8 at the second level. Would that be the correct way to play it?
Or better yet the hedge to win … vs. even or even a loss? Otherwise what’s the point of risk .. risk with loss vs risk with win is still risk either way.., so mine as risk with win?
It's a small modification, but at the lowest level, if I get a couple of 6 and 8 hit hits, I'll turn everything off while I've locked up a profit. Seems better than waiting for a 7, or even worse, the 4 or 10 which wipes out your profit or at least reduces it.
Wouldn’t it be better to just lay the 4 for twice as much ,instead of both 4 & 10? The payout would be the same but you’d only be bucking 3 possible of 4 vs six possible outcomes on 4-10 ? And then put half the amount of $ you put on the easy 4 on the hard 4 as a hedge……And you’d have only 2 possible 4s instead of 3
Thanks Waylon. You always amaze me with your fresh takes on this old game. I am a senior who loves the game but bankroll limited. Trying this on-line for sure.
If you lay the 4 and 10 for 100 each and you put 100 on 6 and 8 each wouldnt you only win 100 and lose 200 if a seven comes? Cuz the lays only pay half
Waylon (and all others), how much do you trust the bubble craps machines? I've played them several times with decent success but I'm also playing at very low levels. Due to gaming commission regulations, I'm assuming the machines are legit and not rigged. Sorry if this is a dumb question but anytime there is an electronic machine, it crosses my mind.
@@waylonswaycraps One strategy I have played on the bubble craps machine is to lay the 4 and 10 on every roll and if I get wacked, just double the lay bet for both numbers. It's almost boring but seems to work. I saw one of your videos the other day that was similar.
@@BW-kv9wj iron hop is one of the best it just takes a big bankroll! 3 or 4 PSOs and it's in deep! I only play it really when someone I know or myself is shooting
I am watching and when you have 200 on everything and a 7 comes, you say you lose 200 and win 200. You have 200 on the six and 200 on eight. That's lose 400 and make 200 - from the lay 4 and 10. so you are actually losing 200. You did that twice in the beginning . Or am I wrong?
Mr. Waylon you have the best craps strategies I’ve ever seen!! Thank you so much. God bless.
Thanks my friend!
Seems strong love your ease of explaining strategies. I will try this out :-)
I like it myself ! Ty brother
I love it... Thank you for all that you do to help the craps community!!! Go noles
Yw brother
Love this!! I don’t think you can lose with this one!
If you place 4/10 lay it only pays 1:2 plus vig, so if a 7 wipes out 6/8, you're only getting back half of the winnings, plus if you roll a 4/10, you lose the lay bet each time. You can absolutely lose with this one.
Another variation, since you inspire such creativity, Waylon:
So, been playing at $5 level on crapsee and watching the pay history.
I noticed that each loss is 1 unit or a bit more (once vig is included)
So risk is ~ one unit on a loss(4.7.10)
On a win, press the risk.
Say you're at ladder step 3 and have lost ~3 units (2 losses)
Win =~3 units. Press up 3 units and win ~6 for total of ~9 on second hit.
I get so excited when i see you start a strat that i switch over after 5 minutes and start crapsee and follow along.
So
$5 lay 4&10
$5 place 6&8
Up won unit on a win for one hit.
Ladder up one unit on a loss.
A lot of Bankroll needed due to the laddering , but risk is not laddered up so much.
Nice one Waylon.
Thanks brother I love it
For real this is my new favorite strategy. I can't believe you hit that many 4 and 10 and you still made BIG BIG money and this shows how strong this strategy is. I know where Waylon is going in the next few days The Casino. THANKS for all you do!!!
I'm on my way today lol! I'll let you know how it goes! Leaving around noon
@@waylonswaycraps 👍👍
How did it go?
Hi Waylon! Going back on win from 3 units to one is genius. I love it!
Thanks ! If you're laddered up high your first win bring it down 2 levels is a smart move also! Take a look at br and go from there! I'm thinking every other win is a 2 level drop with this one or close to it
Love this Strategy brother short and sweet I'm going to share it and play it out on my channel!
Cool brother! Go for it
$4600 profit on a $5000 bankroll🎉👍👍
Great strategy Waylon...despite Randy!
...hey...I even got some recognition from Waylon for all the badly placed 4 & 10's and those 7's...like Waylon says...Nobody can toss 7's and 4's & 10's like old Random Randy!!🤪🤪
I’m trying this on bubble craps, thanks Big W!!
Yes sir!
How did it work out?. What amounts did you use?
WAY to go WAYlon!!! Your mom should have named you WINlon (:
Love this, Waylon!! Could actually cut your risk IN HALF by simply laying $200 on JUST the 4 INSTEAD of $100 on the 4 AND 10...(goes from 16 ways to win vs 6 ways to lose DOWN to 16 ways to win and JUST 3 WAYS TO LOSE!!!) I'll take those odds any day of the week!!!!! ;) Keep up the good work!!!
True but if you get hit on it the one 6&8 win doesn't nearly cover your loss! But you can do that if you like no doubt!
Looks great, Waylon
Waylon---How about a trip report? I'm headed to the Palace next week and thought I might try this strategy out.....
Definetely gonna give this bad boy a try tonight or tomorrow!
Goodluck brother
The Waylon Warlock is at it again fellers😂! Bankroll pressure, laddering, is a necessary part of winning at this game. You prove that over & over & over & over again. Saw in a chat one day some JAFU arguing about laddering doesn’t work. Then watch his video and he’s pressing his bets, what does he think that is? Dummy doesn’t realize that’s laddering, just not on a same unit level and only half a unit.
Does any casino give you grief for the 6/8 not on the easy math unit size? I know you show the $100 level to make dealing easier. Very easy to just lay 4/10 at $120 and 6/8 place at $120 while at the casino. But I would think the dealer would rather have the 6/8 at $100 units, less hassle for them not dealing all those red chips?
Thanks again Brother for all your effort & hard work. God’s Blessings!
Thanks brother! No my Casinos don't mind paying the 6&8 at 100$ increments! It's easier for them! Good dealers mostly! If they did I would just do 90$ increments on everything everytime ! No biggie
I have been playing craps for years and this may be the best strategy I've seen. I have not tried it at the real tables. But I have played it on the wizardofodds craps simulator many times and I can't make this system lose. The strange thing is even when you think you are getting killed (with 4's and 10's and 7's), if you follow the game plan and ladder up, it still works.! I must admit that if I try this in the real casino at the real table, I would probably get nervous on level 5 or 6....Thanks for posting this unique but profitable way to play craps.
I did play this at the $30 level at the casino with a $2000 bank row got to level five one time very scary the dealers were laughing and then he hit three 6 and 8in a row got back down cashed out over $500 profit
@@ericdodson233 Glad u got the last laugh.
Thanks brother! Glad you like it!
@@ericdodson233 very nice my friend
So simple gotta run this thru crapsee all night.
One change I'm trying so far: two hits when laddering up. Brings back a lot.. I almost wanted it to hit 4.7.10 a couple times first.
Lay410 and place 68 are lowest house edge.. this makes so much sense.. the only hole is a really long run of 4.7.10
10 ways to win
12 ways to lose
If you want to lower risk play a hard ways 4 and 10 for $25 each at base level-make $175 when hard 4-10--now you got 2 more ways to win $175 for only $25, And drop risk from loss of 12 ways to 10. An idea🤔
It’s mind boggling but the concept looks right just can’t wrap my mind around the variables n possibilities.. is it just luck? Or solid math..
Why not 120 dollars each?
Played this on the $30 level done awesome made over $500 in less than 45 minutes at the casino had a $2000 bank row did get to level five one time Kinda was scary😅
nice job, Waylon
The lay should be enough to cover both the 6/8 bets not. Just one ?❤😮
Could you play this with a 40 on 4& 10 with 35 on 6&8 love the system just too big for me Christ is the king of all
Why don’t you lay off the 4 and 10. And put the 4 and 10 money on the 6 and ??
Awesome!
Thanks brother
Hey Bro. that is easy money no sweat!
Ain't no lie! It sure was here even with all the 4&10s!
I watched the video again several times. I was thinking a $60 lay on the 4 and 10, $30 on the 6 and 8. Go up to a $96 lay and $48 6 and 8 at the second level. Would that be the correct way to play it?
Yeah sounds good
Or better yet the hedge to win … vs. even or even a loss? Otherwise what’s the point of risk .. risk with loss vs risk with win is still risk either way.., so mine as risk with win?
It's a small modification, but at the lowest level, if I get a couple of 6 and 8 hit hits, I'll turn everything off while I've locked up a profit. Seems better than waiting for a 7, or even worse, the 4 or 10 which wipes out your profit or at least reduces it.
I have no problem with that! I would probably reduce them down if I did anything!
Looks like a real winnner
Wouldn’t it be better to just lay the 4 for twice as much ,instead of both 4 & 10? The payout would be the same but you’d only be bucking 3 possible of 4 vs six possible outcomes on 4-10 ? And then put half the amount of $ you put on the easy 4 on the hard 4 as a hedge……And you’d have only 2 possible 4s instead of 3
Well if you get hit on the 4 it will take twice as many wins to recover lol gotta think about that one to brother
@@waylonswaycraps Yeah either way mathematically it’s the same….But yes twice as many wins to recover not good
Thanks Waylon. You always amaze me with your fresh takes on this old game. I am a senior who loves the game but bankroll limited. Trying this on-line for sure.
If you lay the 4 and 10 for 100 each and you put 100 on 6 and 8 each wouldnt you only win 100 and lose 200 if a seven comes? Cuz the lays only pay half
@@kingrick8608 that's correct
Yw my friend
Losing $200 but still winning? Wow .. that’s something
This really recovers!
Just learning... I understand the lay against 4/10, it pays half you bet. I thought you 6/8 was increments of $6?
Would it limit the exposure to play just the 4 instead of the 4 & 10?
Its possible! Sometimes the 4 won't show for a long time but when it does it's time to swap to the 10 lol
The only drawback is you would have to put more on the 4 instead of splitting it up.
Waylon (and all others), how much do you trust the bubble craps machines? I've played them several times with decent success but I'm also playing at very low levels. Due to gaming commission regulations, I'm assuming the machines are legit and not rigged. Sorry if this is a dumb question but anytime there is an electronic machine, it crosses my mind.
I only play the individual machines with the white dice in the bubble! The others can cheat your ass
@@waylonswaycraps That's what I played at the IP and Palace.
@@waylonswaycraps One strategy I have played on the bubble craps machine is to lay the 4 and 10 on every roll and if I get wacked, just double the lay bet for both numbers. It's almost boring but seems to work. I saw one of your videos the other day that was similar.
Hey Bro. Do you think your Iron Hop is strong? I think it’s solid. I’d like to see a series of it to see if it ever loses????
This one is tough as alligator hide
@@waylonswaycraps Yes. I know it is. I’m surprised you don’t do a series on the Iron Hop??? I think it’s the best.
@@BW-kv9wj iron hop is one of the best it just takes a big bankroll! 3 or 4 PSOs and it's in deep! I only play it really when someone I know or myself is shooting
Would love to see this on the $30 level 30 60 90 120
Combine this with the 568 field strategy?
Keeper
Yes sir
Made another gem
100 place bet?
Can some explain 6/8 bet ... I thought it go to 120$
Not with my strategy! It pays what it pays! True payouts ! 6&8 caps are a rip off
I am watching and when you have 200 on everything and a 7 comes, you say you lose 200 and win 200. You have 200 on the six and 200 on eight. That's lose 400 and make 200 - from the lay 4 and 10. so you are actually losing 200. You did that twice in the beginning . Or am I wrong?
I see what you did, you just left the bets on the table instead of taking it all off and paying. My bad Waylon. Christ is King !!!!!!
@@kevinjohnson2552 amen brother
If you roll a 7 using this strategy you break even right? You would win on the 4 and 10 and lose on the 6 and 8?