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Tube Screamers: TS808, TS9 & TS10, JHS Bonsai, Walrus, RYRA & Hudson - That Pedal Show
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- čas přidán 12. 08. 2024
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In this episode we skip merrily once again down the Green-brick road towards Emerald City to try and find our way back to Tube Screamer home. DorothyDan clicks the heels of his ruby slippers and ends up, happily for this overblown analogy, right back in Kansas where the JHS Bonzai is waiting. Mick is probably Toto, about to be euthanised by all the people who wished he’d play the PRS Wicked Witch Of The West Silver Sky. The Audio Kitchen Big Chopper is probably Glinda The Good Witch Of The North.This analogy has definitely run its course now.
For anyone who actually wants some information (welcome, you must be new), the Ibanez Tube Screamer is among the most used/loved/hated/fabled/derided overdrives of all time ever. We have the three most popular ones - TS808, TS9 and TS10 - and we’re comparing them with what seems to be the best Tube Screamer clone yet: the JHS Bonsai. And some other things…
Okay, please enjoy the episode.
Pedals in this episode…
• D’Addario Pedal Tuner
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• Ibanez TS808 Tube Screamer w Keeley MOD+
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• Ibanez TS9 Tube Screamer
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USA: imp.i114863.net/1xGLd
• Ibanez TS-10 Tube Screamer
No longer made
Hudson Sidecar
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Australia: bit.ly/2Az2Tn3
• JHS Bonsai
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USA: bit.ly/3DO6dWI
Australia: bit.ly/2ndApWB
• Walrus Audio Warhorn
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USA: bit.ly/3EXv5fZ
Australia: bit.ly/2O4103w
• RYRA The 808 Overdrive Pedal
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Australia: bit.ly/2OE5r6n
• BOSS SD-1w Super Overdrive
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USA: bit.ly/3m6DjuO
• JHS Panther Cub V2 Delay
No longer made
• Empress Reverb
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Australia: bit.ly/2wq2lgp
• TheGigRig G2
www.thegigrig.com/g2
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Interesting bits and go-to sections…
- Intro playing: 0:00
- What are we doing today? 2:30
- Today’s pedals: 3:09
- The ‘new’ TS10: 3:45
- Today’s amps - Audio Kitchen Big Chopper: 4:08
- Today’s amps - Fender Super Reverb: 5:55
- JHS Bonsai & Keeley 808 Mod+: 8:11 (9:08)
- Slow Dancing again; tangent: 10:08
- Differences between the 808 and the TS10? 11:15
- JHS Bonsai and the TS808+: 11:45
- TS9 and the Bonsai: 14:20
- TS808 & TS9: 16:11
- TS10 & Bonsai: 16:57
- It’s not an SD-1 YOU IDIOTS! 21:12
- But we’ll do the comparison anyway.
- The Keeley setting in the Bonsai: 23:14
- Yes, the back wall has shrunk: 25:30
- RYRA 808, Leeley 808 and the Bonsai: 26:45
- Walrus Audio Warhorn: 30:17
- Hudson Sidecar: 35:35
- Warhorn with humbuckers and P90s pickups: 41:35
- RYRA 808 with humbuckers and P90s: 43:39
- Nobody needs another Tube Screamer? 46:10
- Bonsai and P90s: 50:01
Guitars in this episode:
• Fender Custom Shop 1963 Telecaster - watch Dan’s video at bit.ly/2dlZJ6K
• Fender John Mayer Signature Stratocaster, 2008
• Collings I-30LC www.collingsguitars.com/electr...
• Gibson Custom 1958 Les Paul Standard - watch Dan’s video at bit.ly/2dbwbvS
Amps in this episode
• Audio Kitchen Big Chopper & 2x12 cabinet with 1 x Celestion Alnico Blue and 1 x Celestion G12H Anniversary www.audiokitchen.co.uk/big-cho...
• Fender Super Reverb with 4x10-inch Jensen P10R speakers shop.fender.com/en-GB/guitar-...
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“I won’t rise to this”. You tell ‘em, Simon! 😂
It's the most English text response I could imagine
The Bonsai is my favorite pedal on my board... loads of tones in one box
Please give Simon a high-five from us! 😂😂😂 at 16:40
Simon! Simon! Simon! He should have schwang one of these episodes.
I saw your comment and was going to say, "hey, how about getting Simon Keats in to talk about the Revival Drive", and 30 seconds latter Mick mentioned they'd just done an episode on it. Can't wait! I love your Cali76 btw.
Please bring Keats to properly range the Revival Drive it never gets a true perspective! Stop putting this pedal in "shootouts" it is not your basic OD or preamp pedal with normal EQ knob twisting. Can't get clean, oh my god man! And you had the manual????
Best thing is when you guys just sit and enjoy each others playing, you're such amazing dudes! Nothing like "yea yea, now it's my turn", just pure respect and love for each other and life. You're an inspiration! Amazing, love it, mega!
Thank you Johan - we’re glad you see it like that! It’s not contrived to be so, but we’re just genuinely stoked to be able to do this. Cheers!
I feel so happy when I watch your videos, and that's probably why. It's genuine joy for the things you do. Thanks for the reply guys, keep up the amazing stuff! :)
Mick, hands down if I could play like anyone on CZcams, I'd play like you. Such great tone, style, and soul.
Another superbly clarifying video with you two sounding great as always. Thanks guys, and a special thanks to Simon for his heretofore unheralded effects highlighting that adds so much clarity to each video. Yes!
Continuum was a keeley ts808..he acquired the ts10s a year later just before the Where the light is concert as a gift from Renne his (SRV's) guitar tech :)
Fascinating piece of information/knowledge! I’ve been a huge TS-808 fan going back a long time before we have all of the pedals we have today. I’ve had every iteration except for the TS-10 which I actually just purchased because I really think I overlooked for a lot of years. I’m looking forward to testing it out and seeing if it becomes my new favorite pedal. I may look into the Keeley 808 now too!
Boss SD1 is still my favourite out of this lineup- possibly because it was the first pedal that I ever bought and there's a nostalgia factor in my head
Best show description you’ve ever written, Mick. I’m still laughing!
Excellent! Thank you for reading it. :0)
Agreed! Can't stop laughing
Same tho
Completely agree. Mick, thanks for putting all the details in the show description. I use it all the time going back to past videos.
Loved it.
I can imagine Mick pulling out his Keeley-modded 808 and whispering "there's no place like home....there's no place like home"
25:10 When that strat moved my heart skipped a beat LOL
Came here to find this comment
Amazing revisit of the TS. Thx guys. I think I have to get me some Sidecar! And love the guitar face from Dan when the Sidecar kicked in. Priceless. Lol
Revisiting this episode (holeee Moses - that Sidecar!), I realised that I'd rather watch old episodes of TPS than most television shows. I haven't been playing much lately. Paused the ep after that chord that Dan schwanged on the Hudson at 36:47 and played my 335 for 2 hours straight.
Thx TPS.
Great show again guys, love the walrus pedal.
Nice play at the beginning Dan😊
32 likes and the video hasn't even been out long enough to finish watching the whole thing. That's how you know you are great.
Excellent, more excellent when louder with added Hudson, Cheers chaps :)
Great playing and great video guys! I loved every SRV sounding minute.
The TS9 sounded exactly as you described, Mick. Stringy and loose with too much sizzle. Nailed it. You spoke what I was thinking about it. Love the tighter more defined sound of the others. Loved the episode. Mayer/SRV sounds are my sound.
Always love those opening guitar improvisations. That look on Dans face (at the 1:00 mark)when he anticipated the exact riff Mick was about to toss in, almost like he'd heard the sequence a time or 2 before... ;)
Mick: "My least favorite Tube Screamer."
Dan: "Really! Why's that?"
Mick: "We're about to find out."
Honestly, I don't know what I love more about this show - the playing or the banter. I suppose the gear and knowledge thereof are also alright as well. ;)
Ace episode as always, gents!
Then the following settings show no discernable difference between the 9 and the 808. Haha.
The SD-1 was my first pedal ever (back in the mid 90s) and it still is my favorite overdrive. I had a feeling but I didn't realize how similar to the tube screamer it is.
Maaaaan! Get in! Killer tone right from the start!
Just purchased the Hudson Sidecar from Riff City. GREAT episode! Thanks and cheers from Maryland, USA
Cool! They are good guys - thanks for letting us know!
A really good comparison of some great pedals, thanks for this.
Great Show Dudes!!!!! That Sidecar pedal is RULING!!! Bonzai clearly doest it all!! Thanks!!!
I have the JHS Muffuletta and love it. I hope they come out with a bunch of Fuzz Faces in one pedal!
Wow the Hudson Sidecar pedal sounds amazing!!! Execellent video as always TPS -thank you for your insights! :)
I agree! Now to choose between the Sidecar and the Broadcaster...
Yea I have the same dilema ;-) There both amazing pedals!
If you want to make your own Broadcast, PEdalPCB sells the replica circuit board.
That fly landing on Mick's face and Mick saying we're not scum, I promise, has to be the best moment yet! The tears of laughter and a sore stomach made my day GENTS!
All I wish for is somebody to look at me the way Dan looks at Mick in the intro
that made my day haha
The start of that is like a John Mayer concert. Loved it. Might have to look into the sidecar
Damn, that Walrus sounds GOOOOOOD!
Might just have found my first od pedal ever!
Always just relied on the dirt I could push my amps into,- but this......
Sonic bliss incarnate!
Good job, Walrus Audio.
Youv´e gotten yourselves a new customer,- and I´m a metal head!
What do you know?
I recently bought a Bonsai, and it is truly phenomenal. The XR and TS9 settings are my favorites, used in low gain settings with the clean channel on the amp driven to just before breakup.
@fastguitar i find that each and every one of the screamers reproduced here is excellent in its own way. I still prefer those two because they do it for me: low gain boost with amazing transparency, letting a good sounding guitar keep its individuality.
Look at his face:D Welcome in Mick's World! Love this video
Mick's playing has improved substantially! Awesome licks!
Your intro-sessions are always great. Not only the sound...also the virtuosity! ...both of you!
dang this is EXACTLY what i wanted to see someone do with the Bonsai! Thanks for this
My buddy dropped me off the Bonsai pedal a few weeks ago just to mess with it. I'm not a Tubescreamer kinda guy but if I needed to get one I'd NO DOUBT get the JHS Bonsai. I'm 61 and loves me some FUZZ!! :) Killer playing as always dudes!! Shalom fromThe Big Sky Country of Lakeside MONTANA USA!!!
Always nice to watch you guys. Great job as usual.
Great to see your success and being able to add new gear. Happy for you guys. And we benefit too :)
Great video as always! Love the SRV and JM licks!
Great episode guys. Absolute Blissful tones! Im going for either the Sidecar or Banzai when its my time for an overdrive
That Hudson Sidecar is Spectacular.
Awesome sounds! Thank you
I always keep going back to my vintage 1980 TS808. To me, vintage is king. Analogman Silver Mod TS9 is a very, very good modern compromise. Wish you guys had the TS808HW in this one. It's a different tonal take on the tube screamer. Very warm, would sound great for fusion guitar.
Right on! Glad to see that I'm not the only one that can get lost doing riffs!
I’m really happy to hear that you guys like everything that Walrus Audio makes, a few years ago I started buying all their releases & have never been disappointed! Yes, I have tons of pedals from other manufacturers but Walrus is the company that has never disappointed.
I almost picked up a bonsai but instead got the new Mythos Herculean V2 & have no regrets because it is ace!! 👌
Ts10 seems like something I would dream about in a guitar dream even if it wasn’t real
First thing is first, you guys got the lighting in the room right! Looking great while sounding great.
Simon; well played sir, a dignified yet funny response. 😁
Best players & demos on CZcams. A fantastic oasis during a year of lock-downs in L.A. ☮️
Thank you. Our very best to the city of angels!
I am sure we all love the new takes on the classic pedals. One on the Marshal Gov'nor would be both fun for you guys and it could be soon the most watch dirt box review EVER!!! If you do be sure to include a pedal that has been around long enough to have been missed by thousands of new buyers the Wilson Sparkling Blue... there take has nailed the raw guts and winner take all spirit of the original. I just discovered it and was trembling trying to get my credit card out of my wallet!!! LOL
Lovely to see the much-maligned TS10 had one for 30 years still on the board but wow I may just have to swap it for the side car what a sound
Sidecar amazing in headphones!! Dripping with tonal honey!
that is THE mayer sound thats insane! I love it!
Wow. That sidecar is inspiration for days. I'm having a happy Dan moment over here. It was worth suffering all those awful green sounds for that :D
Ok.. the best strat tone EVER at the begginin'.. well done mr. Taylor!
Ah come on. Go and listen to Philip Sayce and Matt Schofield immediately! Cleanse yourself!
Best of all tube screamer videos! Can't get over the warhorn and sidecar. Think I need both... Because tone.....
Both of your playing is really exceptional in this one. Also, the Super never cowers in a corner but it does sound incredible. Every episode you do with it makes me want one... But I really want a Two Rock Classic Reverb Signature.... *pulls hair out*
You guys should check out the sparkle drive mod. Never tried it but sounds really interesting. The original sparkle drive is basically a ts808 with the ability to blend your clean sound back in to varying degrees. The mod has 3 additional modes that are different than TS style, but all with the blend knob..
Finally the episode I've been waiting for but you missed out my poor man's favourite - the Bad Monkey ;-)
Mick has been getting some practice in ;) killer licks and killer tone, well done boyos
Sold on the Warhorn!! Dan on the Tele, yeah man smoking tone!!!
Back in the nineties I bought a distortion pedal, which was my only guitar pedal until like two years ago when I started playing electric a bit more again. Only when I started watching guitar gear CZcams videos I checked what that pedal actually was - a Tubescreamer TS10 :) I was a bit disappointed that it wasn’t the famous original TS, but it’s still a nice pedal.
I knew this time was coming...TSOD (an additional DSM/ICD-10 code added to ADHD). If you ask me - and I know no one did, or perhaps ever will - the best pedal on this board is the Sidecar. The Bonsai is an excellent 2nd choice for you screamers. To my ears, it sounds as if Josh and crew at JHS took a tip from Hudson and went a littler more "low-end" for roundness, more gain and headroom. So, if not the Sidecar, the Bonsai comes in second - get the Bonsai and go do what you do with traditional Tube Screamers.
btw, A look at/consideration of the Meris Polymoon would be interesting...
Hey guys!
Love all of the stuff you put out. I would really dig a show about the anatomy of a tube amp. I feel like a lot of us guys know the basic terms but not anymore than that. It would be great to learn more. Thanks
"I wont rise to that" I cracked!! hahahaha
I recently came back to using a tube screamer after many many many years. For the longest time I just couldn't get the slight clean poking through to work for me. I stack it into my JHS Morning Glory and WHOA! The TS sound I'd been looking for. (And poor Mick being violated by that fly!) 😅
Couldnt believe I saw a guy make a video about using drive pedals on clean channels and how he didnt like it he said you can hear the clean through it and im like yeah thats why it sounds so good the guy made no sense at all the best way to use a drive pedal for me is through a clean channel because it gives it that bluesy tone with a little drive behind it its just beautiful just like shown in this video its the best tone with overdrive pedals yeah you can use it with the amp pushing a little still sounds good but not the tone that zi prefer I love absolutely love it through a super clean setting then adding the drive to it thats how you get more of that twangy snappy slightly dirven bluesy tone
Great show and epic description!
"There's nothing like a tube screamer!There's nothing like a tube screamer! "
Hahahhaa!!!!
That Bonsai sounds great, not the biggest fan of JHS pedals but I'm really tempted to give that a go. And I quite like the floor-board look of the back wall :)
Hi! May I ask what you dont like about the JHS pedals? I'm looking into this and their new Tighty Whitey compressor, but I've never owned a compressor or Tube screamer. Thanks!
D-Nasty's Noise
I own several JHS pedals and they are all top notch. I own a Morning Glory, Cheese Ball fuzz, and the Unicorn V2 Univibe. They are all great pedals. I am about to buy the Bonasi for the TS-10 and TS-7 settings alone even though they all sound great.
Heyyy, that's my Big Chopper! Can't believe it took me this long to find the vid, ya'll are awesome as always. Rock on!
Great show today boys and that bonsai is a very impressive pedal. 👍
Cheers Ant, yeah, it’s really great
Great TS Show! Personally I use the TS808DX which adds a clean boost to the OD as a second channel. You can engage both sides and flip order just like the D&M Drive. Me thinks I need to check out the JHS pedal, that was well done.
excellent vid as usual guys for drool worthy pedals, thx guys for emptying my wallet once again. the sidecar is truly special.
Mick's gigantic water bottle makes a return :D Stay hydrated kids!
So pleased to see the Audio Kitchen amp on the show, they're sooooo good!
Yep, Dan here, it’s a revelation
Thanks, Tim!
I don’t know how I missed this show. Great playing, Mick! I absolutely love my TS-10. It’s my favorite TS; I’ve had the 808, TS-9 (modded and unmodded) and a TS-5. I recently built a 10 clone and in some ways like it better. It’s like a boutique TS-10 with mods. But there is something about the 10 that the clone doesn’t have. Funny, I feel I still need both. Haha
Wow, that strat has an amazing tone!
ooooh mama, i've been waiting for this! Can't wait :D
Just a really good shew.........!!! And such a great bunch of pedals that pursue such nuanced sounds. My problem is I can't deal with all the plethora of pedals that are out there these days. That John Mayor Strat sounds awesome, Mick! And that Gemanium Hudson pedal drives a Les Paul to the sound of Rock!
Great ep. Dan and Mick! Dan, that lick on 4:36 is awesome! I'm going to make a little 'how-to video' for it : ). I've made three of these so far on my channel. The Big Chopper indeed sounds awesome!
To hell with the screamers. That Sidecar, holy hell! 😳
This show always makes me want to go play guitar. 👍
I bought a Bad Monkey to let my Lionheart L5T-112 sound a bit better at appartment volume. Did the job. ☺ After seeing this show i'm willing to upgrade!
Wow, you're 1K away from 150K subs - congrats in advance!!
Gain/fuzz based episodes are what I live for. Some of the best tones come from these. Funny enough I was never interested in fuzz until your show covered them. Great vid!
Matt38977897 - ha! Same with me! I think the analogman fuzz show really did it for me, those pedals are so musical. I have played big muffs etc and its just a wall of noise with no dynamics. Cant get into it. But the AM fuzz is much different...playable.
Ryan Hill yes! The sun face fuzz’s! Same here!
I am just not a TS guy. But even a show about pedals that you don’t like helps you to eliminate “what if” questions. I now know that I don’t need any of those pedals for my own style. Thanks Dan and Mick.
See, it’s all useful right?
I bought my Tube Screamer TS10 at a Thrift Store for $6.00 ! That's SIX BUCKS!!!! It is a 1986 Model made in Japan so it has the JRC 4558 in it. I opened it and checked. Best deal I ever got. It is in mint condition too. :)
Ten seconds in and already it seems like Mick is in his happy place
Hello from the US (Central Daylight Time)! I just woke up to find this video in my queue and I’m enjoying it whilst eating my breakfast! Cheers, TPS gang!
Good day to you sir. A man should breakfast heartily.
bloody hell, I think I manifested this - been thinking about buying the Bonsai...
really great show guys
Great video, would have loved to have seen a few of the maxon od's, jhs moonshine and the khdk ghoul screamer.
Strangely, I woke up panicking that I'd sold my Tube Screamer & genuinely couldn't remember if I still had it or not! It's not been on my board for sometime. Rushed downstairs to check and to my relief, yes I've still got it! Was really worried for a few moments, Will be back on my board this morning :)
love the show by the way. x.
Great show boys , I’ve gone back again and keep doing so as fresh re views always give me another angle 👍 also picked up a Tubescreamer 808 clone , Route 66 American Overdrive by Visual Sound V1 and just wanted to compare.
Waiting on my 60s logo tee to come in the mail. Stoked. Good show, fellas.
Thank you for buying one! Keeps us making vids! /0)
Simon freezing the fly on Micks face😂. Great TPS! Walrus Audio sounds great!
That’s what we pay him for. ;0)
This might not be a popular opinion, but I think the best sound of the whole video was the RYRA 808. It has a little more life and sparkle than the TS808 and even the JHS. You guys really came to life as players when it came on- like, it inspired you. It sounded like a TS, but just a really good one with a touch of "magic" so to speak. That said, I doubt I'm going to buy one...
..love Mick’s taste for strats..(..and playing isnt bad at all...haha..wonderful as always!...dan’s too;)
Btw..just got my Bonsai 2weeks ago...love it..not gonna use all 9 of them probably..but 5-6 most certainly...)
Thank you sir!
The Bonsai is really, really, really good. :0)
Almost sounds a little Derrick Trucks at around 43!! KILLER