Morton Feldman, Rothko Chapel - Les Cris de Paris - Ensemble intercontemporain

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  • čas přidán 12. 09. 2024
  • Morton Feldman
    Rothko Chapel
    John Stulz, alto
    Géraldine Dutronc, célesta
    Samuel Favre, percussions
    Adèle Carlier, soprano solo
    Les Cris de Paris
    Gregor A. Mayrhofer, direction
    Enregistré en direct le 24.02.2017 à la Cité de la musique

Komentáře • 68

  • @perry1559
    @perry1559 Před 7 měsíci +3

    This is great relaxing music. We had Feldman at Hartt for a day or so for a “Meet the Composer symposium. He was a character. A Big old chain smoker he was. Witty like you wouldn’t believe, gregarious is a good word for him. His loud sort of NY Jew bravado was at odds with his style of music. Just close your eyes and float away. He able to get through a cigarette with the ashes intact the whole length, still in his mouth talking up a storm. It was a major subject to chat about for a few days. It was hilarious, so was he. One of the most important American composers we had since the beginning of this modern era. 🥹😅🪴❤️

  • @jppitman1
    @jppitman1 Před 6 lety +23

    In the 2015 film "Seymour: An Introduction", pianist Seymour Bernstein states that the most meaningful music emanates from its softest and most delicate passages. "Rothko Chapel" is a prime example. There is a cosmic depth to this Feldman piece and it reflects the sparsely-tiered effects of Mark Rothko`s artistic style. The timbre of the chimes was something I`d not heard before; they rang with a Buddhist beauty. I also note the delicacy of the barely perceptible voices, almost to the point of the singers not being able to sing so softly. And complementary to those tones is the lonely violist with his subtle ministry to stillness and reflection.

    • @rori219
      @rori219 Před 2 lety +1

      Para meditar esta música va de lujo!!!

  • @kalleylitalo5936
    @kalleylitalo5936 Před 3 lety +11

    Beautiful performance!! One of my favorite works at the moment. Every sound seems to have great impact and purpose.
    Never been so annoyed with youtube-advertisement though. The interruption of focus and absorption the music creates is even more pronounced than usual.

    • @molllev8227
      @molllev8227 Před 3 lety +1

      those advertisements are barbaric criminality

  • @talbarak4522
    @talbarak4522 Před 4 lety +10

    1st movement: 00:20
    2nd movement: 09:43
    3rd movement: 14:43
    4th movement: 17:33
    5th movement: 22:05

  • @danieldouay773
    @danieldouay773 Před 5 měsíci

    L'expo Rothko achevée après des milliers de visiteurs sans qu'on ait y pu y entendre une seule installation audio de ce bel hommage mortuaire de l'ami Feldman compositeur, l'art musical 'contemporain' source de moindre profit, n'attirant jamais un public comparable à l'autre majusculé.

  • @Tara-fn6xg
    @Tara-fn6xg Před 5 lety +4

    Fascinating, breathtaking music. Beautiful, spiritual performance

  • @fiefbergen1
    @fiefbergen1 Před 7 lety +3

    Eine der schönsten Sakralmusiken, die ich kenne, hier wunderbar interpretiert

  • @voiceover2191
    @voiceover2191 Před 3 lety +7

    Unfortunately the choir is not up to the task and sing the wrong notes a lot of times. It is a piece as difficult to sing as it is beautiful. Probably Feldman's piece that reminds me most of Webern who is my favourite all time composer. I was part of a choir that performed it many years ago and still remember how hard it was to perform, especially finding the right notes in these at times very complex harmonies and then singing them at ppppp volume, and we didn't do it exactly perfect as well, but wonderful to perform. I think the first piece I sang in a choir was by Feldman, called Christian Wolf in Camebridge, an a capella piece with just a series of chords and then repeated, one sheet of music and we messed it up every single time, it was so hard to do, but man, I love his music. Great person as well. He wants said concerning how an audience experiences his music, that it is like a tennis match, where you normally pay your ticket and you go to your seat, relax and enjoy the game, while when you go to listen to his music, you not only pay to get in, but you have to play yourself as well. Yeah, he had a great sense of humour. Also loved singing music by his wife Barabara Borden, especially her music for string quartet and chorus, beautiful piece.
    This is a performance I personally think is better:
    czcams.com/video/p2AbTftDaZQ/video.html

    • @MrInterestingthings
      @MrInterestingthings Před 3 lety +1

      Wow! Didn't know his wife too was a composer .

    • @voiceover2191
      @voiceover2191 Před 3 lety +2

      @@MrInterestingthings sorry, I said Barbara Borden, great soprano, however at no time Feldman's wife, I meant of course Barbara Monk

    • @psijicassassin7166
      @psijicassassin7166 Před rokem

      In a piece like this, there are only sounds, but no wrong notes.

    • @voiceover2191
      @voiceover2191 Před rokem

      @@psijicassassin7166 That's nonsense, though you may experience it as just sounds, I assure you singing random notes would sound very different.

    • @psijicassassin7166
      @psijicassassin7166 Před rokem

      @@voiceover2191 I doubt it if the audience can tell the difference if the players played the wrong notes. In fact, the concept of the "right note" is an oppressive tonalist concept. Feldman's music is about all notes sounding wrong, and no one gives a damn.

  • @MrInterestingthings
    @MrInterestingthings Před 3 lety +1

    Really needed this . Feldman never rushes . Directionality and nn-directionality big issues in his mind and work . Took 12 and a half minutes before solo voice comes in love the idea of the viola . Feldman was a violin player but often thinks of the viola !

  • @nenadZF
    @nenadZF Před 4 měsíci +1

    - How minimalist your work can be?
    - Yes.

  • @MoiraRussell
    @MoiraRussell Před 6 lety +32

    Absolutely gorgeous, but I want to BEHEAD the people coughing.

    • @dylanneal2785
      @dylanneal2785 Před 5 lety +5

      I recommend John Cage's "4'33"

    • @anodyne57
      @anodyne57 Před 5 lety +2

      February, in Paris. Tis the season.

    • @LandOnBolts
      @LandOnBolts Před 5 lety +1

      Tis the season to bring cough drops!

    • @MarcusHK1
      @MarcusHK1 Před 4 lety

      @@davidtibbs704 The Ensemble Intercontemporain might as well go all the way and commission a guillotine piece of music to perform during the execution.

    • @verslaflamme666
      @verslaflamme666 Před 4 lety

      hey girl, how did you get verified?

  • @lotharlamurtra7924
    @lotharlamurtra7924 Před 5 lety +1

    C'est la première fois que j'entends si nettement les cloches dans l'interprétation de cette œuvre.

  • @RafaelMacedoMusica
    @RafaelMacedoMusica Před 7 lety +3

    Cette interprétatión très profonde, comme ce propre ouvre.

  • @williamfeuer4954
    @williamfeuer4954 Před 4 lety

    Fabulous job on my fav and very accessible Feldman piece.

  • @AndrewRudin
    @AndrewRudin Před 3 lety +4

    A shame that there are frequent extraneous noises in the audience, in a piece like this where silence and the meaningfulness of every sound seems so important. Also... have you visited the actual Rothko Chapel? As sparse and "meditative" as this piece might be to some, it's a barn-burning melodrama of stormy events, compared to what one experiences in the actual place, where for. quite a long time after you enter, there appears to be almost nothing to perceive in what initially appear to be. empty deep purple canvases. But if you become calm and quiet and stay for a while, you begin to see what is there. Perhaps the moment when the chimes begin to be heard he catches something of the place's ambiance.

  • @oscarrocabert6268
    @oscarrocabert6268 Před 4 lety +14

    Cough syrup everybody.

  • @My-Dear
    @My-Dear Před 2 lety +2

    펠드먼 - 로스코 채플 2악장 10:08 11:30

  • @francoisbrg
    @francoisbrg Před 5 lety +1

    si vous lancer en même temps "les cris de Paris" et "le concerto de chambre" de Ligeti cela va super bien ensemble, et mérite réflexions.

  • @Rozedesu
    @Rozedesu Před 4 lety +1

    Tüyler ürpertici..

  • @alanhardy3400
    @alanhardy3400 Před 4 lety +11

    Wouldn't be a proper concert, would it, without the audience coughing their guts up.

  • @machida5114
    @machida5114 Před 2 lety

    so good...

  • @viarnet
    @viarnet Před 5 lety

    fantastic!

  • @aeverton62
    @aeverton62 Před 8 měsíci +1

    If you're going to put ads in something like this it's honestly better not to upload it at all. Ruined it completely.

  • @nicholasserrambana
    @nicholasserrambana Před rokem +1

    not the coughing at 0:55

  • @nataliaencinas933
    @nataliaencinas933 Před 26 dny

    3rd movement: choir and cough introduction

  • @dion1949
    @dion1949 Před 6 hodinami

    There ought to be a quieter way to acknowledge this type of music other than applause.

  • @margaritacastroguarin2606

    I just saw a performance by William Marx of John Cage's 4'33'' and they also cough a lot! Hahaha it's so funny and weird.

  • @alexanderreikreik
    @alexanderreikreik Před 10 měsíci

    the mahler 2ND it aint

  • @federicozimerman8167
    @federicozimerman8167 Před 3 lety

    the lark ascending ralph v williams

  • @psijicassassin7166
    @psijicassassin7166 Před rokem

    The piece sounds outdated. Too backward for the times.

  • @vicstein288
    @vicstein288 Před 4 lety +1

    After listening to this noise I suddenly realised how stupid I am. I've been trying to compose at least one hit for past 50 years and of course nil success. Now I know that all I had to do is throw a bunch of notes together and let them play where they land. And since I always had a struggle with timing, here I don't have to use the Metronome at all. Wait for my first Hit piece shortly.

    • @wids
      @wids Před 4 lety +5

      Lol? Not sure if hilarious or depressing

    • @vicstein288
      @vicstein288 Před 4 lety

      @Tim Watson Yeah! Hahahaha. Think I go back listening to Oh Macdonald had a farm

  • @1234567890ZZZZZ
    @1234567890ZZZZZ Před 6 lety +4

    Gran obra! lastima que el solista de viola tenga una forma absurdamente romantica de tocar, que el coro esta desafinado con bastante frequencia y que la grabacion esta plagada de ruidos.

    • @culturalivrebr
      @culturalivrebr Před 6 lety +2

      David Nunez não exagere

    • @armandopropati
      @armandopropati Před 6 lety +4

      El solista de viola estuvo correcto, la parte que le tocó tenía una letanía romántica. Además, Feldman abrevó de esas aguas sin ninguna clase de complejo.

  • @kpriech
    @kpriech Před 4 lety +1

    the auditory is disgusting as usual, or ill! Wonderful music though.

  • @frankfeldman6657
    @frankfeldman6657 Před 5 lety

    Funny that they play it. Boulez thought MF a rank amateur.

    • @Tara-fn6xg
      @Tara-fn6xg Před 5 lety +1

      Boulez thought similarly about Shostakovich.

    • @frankfeldman6657
      @frankfeldman6657 Před 5 lety +1

      @@Tara-fn6xg More power to him, Shostakovich is the worst.

    • @superscienceshow
      @superscienceshow Před 4 lety

      What can Boulez play bumblebee at 50 notes a second or something.

    • @captainhaddock6435
      @captainhaddock6435 Před 4 lety +4

      Well, everyone knows Boulez was a fanatic, dogmatic a-hole concerning his artistic preferences

  • @nikolausgerszewski2086
    @nikolausgerszewski2086 Před 3 lety +1

    there is no vibrato on the viola in the score! and there shouldn't be (this is not a virtuoso part!). also the turning of the pages in the choir should not be audible! from ensemble intercontemporain one would have expected a more thoughtful interpretation of this masterpiece! they basically ruin it, they have obviously no understanding of this music.

    • @davidcarter3049
      @davidcarter3049 Před 2 lety

      Are they interpreting the viola part as a memory of the past, that the viola is actually story telling from an older world? Something nostalgic from a Jewish culture that’s been destroyed..I thought it sounded over romantic and not what I thought Feldman was about, but this is a piece of theatre that has a story telling aspect to it, it’s like a fragment of heritage or something

    • @nikolausgerszewski2086
      @nikolausgerszewski2086 Před 2 lety

      @@davidcarter3049 This is not a theatre piece, it is an environment piece for the Rothko Chapel. There is no aspect of story telling either in Rothko or Feldman, and there is never any vibrato in Feldman. It is not supposed to sound romantic.

  • @korsu2615
    @korsu2615 Před 2 měsíci +1

    wouldn't be a classical performance without someone in the audience dying of covid.. smh