What is the BEST martial art?
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- www.iainabernethy.co.uk/ Discussions and debates about which is the best martial art are commonplace. However, which martial art is “best” will ultimately be determined by the specified goals of the individual practitioner. In this video we discuss some of the key considerations in determining which is the most suitable martial art for any given practitioner. Topics discussed include:
Self-Protection
Sport
Pressure Testing
Fitness, Health and Longevity
Traditional or Modern
Training Environment
Cultural Interest
Personal Enjoyment
And More!
I hope that you enjoy the video!
All the best,
Iain - Sport
I love this open minded and wise way of talking about this. People tend to be very dogmatic about what's the very best style... I'll recommand this video to anyone looking for a martial school.
This video is good for both beginners and long time practitioners. I'm sharing it on facebook because I have friends of both kinds.
This is a learned man. Love the breakdowns. Would enjoy some classroom videos. I am older by far and miss the class dojo settings. OSU.
Watch this space ... I have something lined up that you may enjoy :-)
I really feel the point about longevity. I love the tough training but I always have longevity on my mind. I'm kind of a fan of mma but I also like the traditional uniforms and the Warrior spirit
I tried Tae Kwon Do when I was around thirty years old after 15 years of karate. Those jumping monkies just punished my knees even at that age. I'm amazed that there are much older practitioners.
@@billc.4584 what's a jumping Monkey? And yeah it can be tough on the joints especially if you overextended your kicks a lot.
Great video!
I think it's really important, when practicing a martial art, to understand its inherent assumptions and biases.
I learn Kali. One of the basic assumptions of Kali is that you're armed and fighting more than one armed opponent in the context of a battle - not a sport challenge, not self defense, but a battle, in which legal considerations or mercy towards an attacker are irrelevant. As thus, Kali isn't particularly well suited (without modification) for a purpose that isn't an armed conflict.
The same applies to all martial arts in different contexts.
And more seriously... I moved from traditional karate(shorin-te) to modern ju-jitsu - and now... AT LEAST I finally started to _get_ what all those kata moves really means and for what are they for... as I started to recognise them in Modern Ju-Jitsu... it's a pity that so many karate practicioners - THAT I GOT TO KNOW - seems not really know what those moves in kata are really for and conjure some really strange and impractical interpretations - and I'm not talking about author of this video I'm talking about the people that I met in person(not all of them, but quite many).
Good points. I'm currently studying a Shorin-ryu Dial, and fortunate that my sensei helps us cover all those applications.
Similar thing happened to me. I am a long time and still, a Shotokan karate practiotioner. Been doing Shotokan for almost 40 years (since I was 6). Starting 3 years ago, I started learning BJJ too. I did it because I think karate is not complete, that I have to learn grappling, throws, submission and locks. Apparently after a while, I recognise a lot of moves in shotokan karate kata, that is the application is actually more make sense than those had been taught to me for years. I am happy that I made the move, learning other arts (BJJ, kick boxing, muay thai). Aside from learning other techniques, I found that I actually am learning deeper in karate.
Great video. The only thing I would add is that the quality of the instructor is key to success.
Great video Sensei :) Plenty of great considerations for anyone interested in trying a Martial Art and/or Martial Sport.
The best martial art speech and lesson that i've ever listened.
I'm a karateka, judoka, bjj and boxing practicionner and MMA figheter and after years of matches and training i do only karate.
You're a Real Sensei with a very open mind.
Thanks for this lesson
How are you not getting more views? To-date 306! Not reflective of your presentations' quality. I wish you nothing but success, particularly with respect to Covid19 restrictions that are likely hampering you. Thank you very much for for the many quality presentations you have shared. There are a few quality karate guys out there sharing but you're my favorite. Our philosophies are very similar. Thanks.
As usual, very good advice indeed! I too consider myself a "Modern/Progressive Traditionalist" :)
I've done judo, bjj and traditonal martial arts. This is exactly why I went back to karate at age 50.
Thank you sir. This is the best breakdown I've ever seen publicly discussed on this subject. But now I have to do some research to figure out which branch of Karate is the one in which you train. ;)
I really like your view on the martial arts. Thank you for sharing.
You might have to compromise a little as well, I am a bit limited on choice near me so ended up with karate instead of Jujitsu which I fancied but still enjoy it none the less!
Convenience is important. I found an awesome traditional Judo school but it was a very long drive, so I chose a much closer BJJ school. I know if it is too far away I would be less likely to consistently get there to train.
This is a very strong point. I moved after training GojuRyu for something like five years. I thought I just find a dojo and keep at it. No GojuRyu in this town. No GojuRyu in the neighbouring towns. Closest was ShitoRyu in a neighbour town. Ok Sensei said, you might try aikido? I tried. Not for me. I tried Kyukushin, sort of similar but not ... And most of all the spirit in this dojo was very different, almost all teenagers ... So I tried various gym classes, some of them box, and endurance sports for twenty yrs, and now I do Shotokan. Fun, but perhaps not the right thing my age.
This is the best video about this topic and the definitive answer this question. Theres no single best martial arts, Context is king...Just go and do what you like, period!
Thanks for sharing.
Well said Iain! 🤓💯
I have always wanted to take karate because I need some striking skills. I took Judo for about 3 to 4 years before my gym shutdown and I loved it and I am currently taking a 1 year contract which is $150 USD a month for BJJ. After my 1 year contract, I won't be able to renew my BJJ contract due to finance. Since I am a college student. I have been looking into Karate in my local area and the only karate is Isshinryu Okinawan Karate and the monthly payment cost less.
the real question isn't "what's the best martial art", it's "what' s the best martial art for you"
Absolutely … and determining what is the best one for you needs you have a clear idea on what you want from a martial art. That’s the message I hope comes across in the video.
i apreciate if you might talk more slowly because i speak a litle bit english,thanks for your attention
Judo.
Though some people might prefer another art I find Judo checks the most boxes. There's the philosophy and tradition of the art, the sports aspect (and it's Olympic), live training, develops an excellent base, and its a great foundation to proceed to other arts
john saxon read maybe wrote the lines in a documentary about martial arts in flims, and paraphrasing here is.... the best MA is the one you wake up every day to do, everyday.
May He Rest in Peace.
Glad you separated the self protection from martial art.ive always seen karate as great body conditioning but not really a good self defence system.i think you've got to love your martial art and not concern yourself with street defence.great video as usual
Art is just that. You can't argue with art or human creativity. It's all subjective. The Martial part is really in question. If you won for the goal in mind then your martial endeavor is the "best" at that time. I've been smacked in the beak before and immediately ceased all forward momentum and stated, Hold on, hold on. You win my friend. My martial arts training at that moment was severely lacking. This was fun.
No such thing as a best or most useful martial art, it all depends on the user. Having said that, the 3 main arts that have worked for me are Thai Boxing/Kyokushin (for fists and elbows, especially the clinch), wrestling (to control levels and stop takedowns) and BJJ (to help if the fight does go to the ground
Perfect, to be used as a guide by newcomers (maybe not only by them)
Iain, OT but I’m curious about injury aspects of training that you touched on. I’ve been plagued by tendon and ligament injuries. I’m mid 40’s and train ju-jutsu. What’s your experience of middle age tendon injuries amongst students and how do they manage the problem.
As I say in the video, that’s something that you need to raise with medical and health professionals who are aware of your specific issues. Generic “advice” from the internet is almost sure to be ill-informed and could do more harm than good. I’m not a doctor, and even if I were, you are not a patient of mine. A good doctor or physiotherapist will be able to advise when they are aware of the specifics of your issues. I have had tendon trouble, and it was the experts who were able to help me.
Great points Iain! Maybe a 'progressive purist' is a fit definition?
Thank you! I’m not sure “purist” would be a good fit as that tends to play into the notion that there was once a “pure” karate that we should all aspire to get back to. I’m with Ed Parker when he said, “Pure karate is when pure fist meets pure face” :-) “Progressive Traditionalist” would seem to be the right label. Progressive = “favouring change or innovation” and Traditionalist = “advocating the maintenance of tradition”. It seems like an oxymoron until we realise that the innovation has always been endorsed and taken place i.e. we have a tradition of innovation. It’s only relatively recently that the false idea of an unchanging tradition has been put forth.
Where do you find self protection classes?
My martial art is the BEST!!!
...for me ;-)
the one you practice in earnest, does not waste your time and offers pressure testing
Tang soo do is awesome
Ok... so I left... with ballet? Do they have any kata? ;) ;) ;) Because I like doing kata...
What this video utterly fails to communicate is that my own style of incredibly obscure kung fu, of which I am the sole inheritor, whose lineage I cannot substantiate with evidence but which is nevertheless a couple thousand years old, whose techniques include supernatural feats that I can't prove, is the pinnacle of achievement in the fighting arts and objectively superior to any so called martial art that has ever existed or will ever exist. Please edit your video accordingly, thanks in advance. ;)
So in other words, you are Po from Kung Fu Panda??
If you're unable to substantiate the lineage of your art, how do you know how old it is?
@@genemyers2816 magic. Obviously.
I don't much consider myself a fan.. of anything really - but you and your views' probably as close as I get.
Soo... Your enjoyment of kata - is that tied to practicality ? Or Is it a cultural or aesthetic thing? I see you spending a lot of time analyzing katas and finding practicality within them - but isn't that in fact a cultural interest? Sort of.. historical detective work?
I mean; from a practical stand point shouldn't you just be drilling a ton of combinations? There are so many practical people out there willing to teach practical combos. From a practical stand point: is there a reason to spend that time analyzing ancient forms?
And then I asked myself... He must have made a video about that so I round the 'role of kata' ;)
@@fredeuhrbrand3789 Thanks for the support and kind words. For me, it has always been the practical aspects of kata that was the appeal. I can understand the aesthetic, physical, health and competitive aspects; but they were not the main attraction for me. While I can appreciate those aspects, those aspects alone would not be enough. It was the kata that brought into sharp focus just how holistic “old-school” karate is. My analysis of them revealed very useful information, and it is that information that is of value. It’s not that I find the core value in the process of analysis itself. I find the value it what it reveals. Basically, I don’t enjoy the digging so much, but I do enjoy finding the treasure, and I enjoy spending that treasure all the more :-)
YOU WROTE: “from a practical standpoint shouldn't you just be drilling a ton of combinations?”
The kata provide those self-protection combinations for us.
YOU WROTE: “There are so many practical people out there willing to teach practical combos.”
Indeed, there are. The only difference with us is that we put them end to end in a methodical way and call those collections “kata”.
YOU WROTE: “From a practical standpoint: is there a reason to spend that time analyzing ancient forms?”
Students should not be analysing kata. It’s not the student’s job to “work out” what they show … it’s the instructor’s job to show it. This podcast explains my thinking around that in much more detail: iainabernethy.co.uk/content/karate-30
Kata has proven its utility to me and mine; which is why we do it. Of course, it’s entirely possible to become a functional martial artist without kata; just as it is possible to do kata (i.e. the solo kata alone) and never make it functional. However, for us, the fact the kata is there is structure and guide our training is invaluable. We like that it is so systematic and holistic. It’s the whole “syllabus”.
For me, karate without kata would be disjointed and unordered. In accord with the theme of this video, a kata-centred approach is “best” (for us) because, first and foremost, it provides the bedrock functionally. We like the logical structure and holistic syllabus kata provides. However, kata are also is good for my health; they provide longevity in training; they give me the “evolving tradition” that I like feeling part of, and I massively enjoy the wider kata process (not to be confused with the process of analysis): czcams.com/video/y02d-QU_aoE/video.html They tick a lot of boxes :-)
I hope that helps expand my thinking a little bit. Much more on that coming to CZcams soon :-)
Thanks once again for the support!
All the best,
Iain
@@fredeuhrbrand3789 Yes, there is that video too :-) czcams.com/video/aK_YWpjg4Gg/video.html Coincidentally, I am wearing the exact same shirt and filming that against the same background as this one! I swear they were filmed over 1 year apart! :-)
I don't know much about karate, yeah, but with my experience so far, I really enjoy kata for the workout, and being able to pull news out of it and apply them in bunkai, kumite and sparring.
Truth has been spoken. I'll stick with Karate until the grave.
what style of karate do you practice?
I have no idea :-) My karate instructors come from Wado, Shotokan, Shukokai, Kick-Boxing, etc. To me, it’s all just karate and hence I don’t label what we do beyond that. “One serious problem, in my opinion, which besets present day karate-do is the prevalence of divergent schools. I believe this will have a deleterious effect on the future development of the art … There is no place in contemporary karate-do for different schools … Indeed, I have heard myself and my colleagues referred to as the Shotokan school, but I strongly object to this attempt at classification.” - Gichin Funakoshi iainabernethy.co.uk/article/styles-are-they-killing-karate
@@practicalkatabunkai Thanks for the answer! :) Tell me, how do You feel about such areas of karate, such as Kudo, which has become a sport? And how do You feel about Ashihara karate, which is different from the old karate styles?
I apologize for my poor English.
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Kudo Karate is the way.
@@lionsden4563 Kudo karate is a sports direction, with an Arsenal of sports, not martial arts. With all due respect to this beautiful style))))
@@user-wv6tc8ki8g,
It is a martial art.
Pfft, Ameri-Do-Te is the best martial art, everything else is BS. 😂
It's not the art. But, the combat you enjoy.
I have always said there is no such thing it ultimately boils down to application I have known white belts to beat a black belt in sparring session purely because that black belt didn't apply what they learnt and the white belt dude did. This applies for different martial arts too Also Martial arts are not about being better than others its about self improvement
Aikido (or Judo or Jiujitsu) 80% +boxing 10%+karate10% = best