I was staying at the Flamingo in the mid-eighties. I wandered around and happened upon Bugsy's suite while staff were cleaning. They showed me lamps and ashtrays that had been smashed by Bugsy and Virginia and glued back together. I think they should have kept it as a museum given the notoriety. But that's not Vegas.
@@rockinron3215 No. I was just a kid snooping in the doorway while staff cleaned. But I've been up and down the secret stairs of Casa Loma in Toronto (from the office to the wine cellar).
@@vegastocali Thank you Cali but I am more of a reporter doing topical research and reporting on Vegas history. I don't cite all sources (though I try to cite most) and I don't have the same level of scholarship that is done by historians like David Schwartz.
@@VegasVisual Yeah, but I'm a "When in Rome do like the Romans kind of guy." I once met Nicky Scarfo, and before the introduction, I was told, "Whatever you do, don't call him "Little Nicky." The thought never entered my mind, having grown up in the streets in my youth.
@@ralphadamo1857 But people during his time called him Bugsy and many historians and biographers use Bugsy as much or more than Ben and Benjamin. He didn't like the name but being in "Rome that is what the Romans (historians/biographers) are doing". He is much more known as Bugsy than Ben or Benjamin.
In 2014, a new suspect emerged in the case: a Slavic truck driver and crane operator named Mathew “Moose” Pandza. Pandza was the lover of Bee Sedway, the wife of Siegel’s best friend and mob partner Moe Sedway. Shortly before his death in July of 2014, Sedway's son Robbie came forward with information about the case. In 1947, Bugsy threatened to have Moe killed. When Bee learned of this, she arranged to have her lover, Moose, kill Bugsy to protect her husband. Some of this information was corroborated by interviews with Sedway's family members and a filmed interview with Bee from 1993. However, investigators have not confirmed this theory; they still consider the murder an open case.
Thank you for the tip! The funny thing is I just read the Los Angeles Magazine article yesterday from 2014 about Sedway's son Robbie explaining this motive. I knew about this suspect when I started the project months ago but I just said that "Bee Sedway knew who did it" (16:52) because I didn't have any documents or sources that explained the "Moose" motive until yesterday. If I do an update down the road I will include Moose as another motive because it appears that Moe Sedway and Moose Pandza are the # 1 suspects. LA Magazine article: www.lamag.com/longform/mobster-murder-moll-secret/2/
You put this together so well. Which we expected. Lol. Always fantastic on your videos and we enjoy them all. The history of vegas is so interesting. Dice and I love watching them. Keep it going. 🤗🤗🎸
Yes, it is one of the biggest myths of Las Vegas that Bugsy was The Godfather of Las Vegas or the inventor of the strip or the one who initially built the Flamingo.
This was impressive. You hit it, outta the park⚾. Bugsy was bad, but he had a great idea. He made Vegas exciting and that’s why he’s my favorite mobster. I was sad, when his daughter died. A part of Bugsy was gone. You should look up David Berman, who ran El Cortez & flamingo a bit later. He’s impressive too.
Thank you Kissy for the kind words. I want to do something with the El Cortez, maybe I will interview the current owner, Gamblin Granny. I did run into some information on Berman for the Bugsy project but Moe Sedway and Gus Greenbaum appeared to be more prominent figures, or at least more public figures. I will keep Berman in mind for future projects, thank you for the tip!
@@VegasVisual Berman, had something to do with setting up the first Jewish synagogue in Vegas, I think his plaque is still there. I gave the Lady Las Vegas book to Adam, the El Cortez manager. Bermans, house is right down the street & Looks good. (Bermans daughter was murdered by Durst)
I find it disturbing that Millicent (Siegel daughter) had her 500 acres on the strip sold for nothing back in the 60s by her husband. When she died, she couldn't afford to adhere to Jewish burial customs because she had nothing left to pay with. Seems like some local Jewish people would have done that for her considering how many billions have been made off of Vegas and she was the daughter of one of the men that made vegas Vegas. Sad, Ben had a 20k coffin and his daughter couldn't afford a coffin. They don't talk about that on these mob stories
Wow !! I can’t believe it’s still an open case . Such drama way back when . Nothing in the safe . Hmm …Do you believe that people are really buried out in the desert ?
Yes, back in the day bodies would be found in the desert that is now Summerlin. As they were building homes in the Summerlin area bodies would be found. Many or most bodies found were not in the media because they wanted to sell the homes.
That lattice work is still there or was a few years ago. I had to trespass and walk up the neighbors driveway but I was able to stand in the same spot as the shooter. It was quite surreal. I drove all the way from seattle just to see it. I have a very hard time believing that Sedway and Greenbaum took over the flamingo minutes after siegel was shot. It would have been extremely stupid of them. It's very hard to find but there is an interview of chick hill online. A little trivia. Kirk krikorian was the pilot who flew bugsy to LA right before his muder.
@@VegasVisual the story is in the biography of kerkorian called the gambler. And the chick hill interview is on a video about bugsy that I have come across 3 or 4 times on CZcams. He describes bugsy.
Moe Greene murder is at least partly based on Bugsy's murder because both were Jewish mobsters who were executioners for Murder, Inc. and they both worked in Vegas for the mob.
2:17 I went with what the FBI memo said about how many shots hit Siegel. I try to go with official sources or reporters at the time of the event when getting facts (and show where the facts came from on the screen) but even official sources and reporters can get information wrong. Historians and reporters to this day still don't have access to the Beverly Hills Police murder files because the murder case is not closed yet so the FBI files were the next best source of information. If the murderer was 20 years old at the time they still could be alive (about 97 years old).
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I was staying at the Flamingo in the mid-eighties. I wandered around and happened upon Bugsy's suite while staff were cleaning. They showed me lamps and ashtrays that had been smashed by Bugsy and Virginia and glued back together. I think they should have kept it as a museum given the notoriety. But that's not Vegas.
Imagine how much money people would pay now to stay in the Presidential suite.
Did you see where the tunnel was in the closet?
@@rockinron3215 No. I was just a kid snooping in the doorway while staff cleaned. But I've been up and down the secret stairs of Casa Loma in Toronto (from the office to the wine cellar).
20:35 wow that is crazy they still wont let anyone see the file. Excellent job Kevin. Have a wonderful week my friend 🤗👍
I heard that from a historian trying to do research on Bugsy.
@@VegasVisual you are a Historian doing research on Bugsy too.
@@vegastocali Thank you Cali but I am more of a reporter doing topical research and reporting on Vegas history. I don't cite all sources (though I try to cite most) and I don't have the same level of scholarship that is done by historians like David Schwartz.
Finished watching part 1 today and now just finished part 2. Fantastic job, you are the Ken Burns of Vegas history!
Thank you for your kind words Movestro, that means a lot!
Lots of gaps filled in on my Vegas History, thank you so much VV
Most welcome Ace, many gaps were filled in for me too.
The name's Benjamin Siegel. Respect, please.
Actually, his name was Benjamin Siegelbaum but he earned the name Bugsy and deserves the name Bugsy and he is commonly referred to as Bugsy.
@@VegasVisual Yeah, but I'm a "When in Rome do like the Romans kind of guy." I once met Nicky Scarfo, and before the introduction, I was told, "Whatever you do, don't call him "Little Nicky." The thought never entered my mind, having grown up in the streets in my youth.
@@ralphadamo1857 But people during his time called him Bugsy and many historians and biographers use Bugsy as much or more than Ben and Benjamin. He didn't like the name but being in "Rome that is what the Romans (historians/biographers) are doing". He is much more known as Bugsy than Ben or Benjamin.
👍😁looking forward to watch this
See you soon Cali!
No youtube for me this weekend, sorry amigo. Will watch after work 😉
No problem amiga.
In 2014, a new suspect emerged in the case: a Slavic truck driver and crane operator named Mathew “Moose” Pandza. Pandza was the lover of Bee Sedway, the wife of Siegel’s best friend and mob partner Moe Sedway. Shortly before his death in July of 2014, Sedway's son Robbie came forward with information about the case. In 1947, Bugsy threatened to have Moe killed. When Bee learned of this, she arranged to have her lover, Moose, kill Bugsy to protect her husband. Some of this information was corroborated by interviews with Sedway's family members and a filmed interview with Bee from 1993. However, investigators have not confirmed this theory; they still consider the murder an open case.
Thank you for the tip! The funny thing is I just read the Los Angeles Magazine article yesterday from 2014 about Sedway's son Robbie explaining this motive. I knew about this suspect when I started the project months ago but I just said that "Bee Sedway knew who did it" (16:52) because I didn't have any documents or sources that explained the "Moose" motive until yesterday. If I do an update down the road I will include Moose as another motive because it appears that Moe Sedway and Moose Pandza are the # 1 suspects.
LA Magazine article:
www.lamag.com/longform/mobster-murder-moll-secret/2/
Very very intriguing murder indeed...
Oh geez I must’ve walked away from my computer. Sorry I missed it
No worries my friend, no worries.
You put this together so well. Which we expected. Lol. Always fantastic on your videos and we enjoy them all. The history of vegas is so interesting. Dice and I love watching them. Keep it going. 🤗🤗🎸
Thank you Granny, the details are delightful. More to come but the future projects will be shorter, this one was a beast.
This was very well done. Thank you for making this in-depth documentary.
Thank you Alan, this one led me off into several different weed patches and I learned many things.
So looking forward to this! Hope I will be back home and able to make it to the premiere!
I hope you can make it JR, safe travels.
Love this Stuff ❤. I watch all the Old Gangster stuff on CZcams, TV 📺. Fantastic video 📹 👍👋😎🇺🇸
Thank you, more history vlogs coming!
“Not a good look on our casino” but at the same time we’re gonna profit off his name and image and Meyer lanskys with restaurants named after them “
Exactly.
This was a great watch 👍👍👍
Thank you for watching.
Very good document!
Thank you!
Interesting that he was known as “The Godfather Of Las Vegas “
Yes, it is one of the biggest myths of Las Vegas that Bugsy was The Godfather of Las Vegas or the inventor of the strip or the one who initially built the Flamingo.
This was impressive. You hit it, outta the park⚾. Bugsy was bad, but he had a great idea. He made Vegas exciting and that’s why he’s my favorite mobster. I was sad, when his daughter died. A part of Bugsy was gone. You should look up David Berman, who ran El Cortez & flamingo a bit later. He’s impressive too.
Thank you Kissy for the kind words. I want to do something with the El Cortez, maybe I will interview the current owner, Gamblin Granny. I did run into some information on Berman for the Bugsy project but Moe Sedway and Gus Greenbaum appeared to be more prominent figures, or at least more public figures. I will keep Berman in mind for future projects, thank you for the tip!
@@VegasVisual Berman, had something to do with setting up the first Jewish synagogue in Vegas, I think his plaque is still there. I gave the Lady Las Vegas book to Adam, the El Cortez manager. Bermans, house is right down the street & Looks good. (Bermans daughter was murdered by Durst)
@@texadonkey34 Thank you for the info, you are a Vegas history buff!
I find it disturbing that Millicent (Siegel daughter) had her 500 acres on the strip sold for nothing back in the 60s by her husband. When she died, she couldn't afford to adhere to Jewish burial customs because she had nothing left to pay with. Seems like some local Jewish people would have done that for her considering how many billions have been made off of Vegas and she was the daughter of one of the men that made vegas Vegas. Sad, Ben had a 20k coffin and his daughter couldn't afford a coffin. They don't talk about that on these mob stories
It is sad how people have money one day but die with not enough for a proper burial.
Wow !! I can’t believe it’s still an open case . Such drama way back when . Nothing in the safe . Hmm …Do you believe that people are really buried out in the desert ?
Yes, back in the day bodies would be found in the desert that is now Summerlin. As they were building homes in the Summerlin area bodies would be found. Many or most bodies found were not in the media because they wanted to sell the homes.
That lattice work is still there or was a few years ago. I had to trespass and walk up the neighbors driveway but I was able to stand in the same spot as the shooter. It was quite surreal. I drove all the way from seattle just to see it. I have a very hard time believing that Sedway and Greenbaum took over the flamingo minutes after siegel was shot. It would have been extremely stupid of them. It's very hard to find but there is an interview of chick hill online. A little trivia. Kirk krikorian was the pilot who flew bugsy to LA right before his muder.
I didn't know about Kirk Krikorian flying Bugsy to LA or the chick Hill interview.
@@VegasVisual the story is in the biography of kerkorian called the gambler. And the chick hill interview is on a video about bugsy that I have come across 3 or 4 times on CZcams. He describes bugsy.
@@VegasVisual yours is the best examination of bugsy I have seen. I learned several things I didn't know.
@@johnwright291 Thank you, I tried to rely heavily on original sourcing (people/documents) and basic facts.
coincidence or not, moe greene was also shot in the eye.
Moe Greene murder is at least partly based on Bugsy's murder because both were Jewish mobsters who were executioners for Murder, Inc. and they both worked in Vegas for the mob.
@@VegasVisual also, both probably rejected the offer they couldn't reject.
Other documentary accounts state that segal was actually shot 4 times
You say twice
Which is correct ?
2:17 I went with what the FBI memo said about how many shots hit Siegel. I try to go with official sources or reporters at the time of the event when getting facts (and show where the facts came from on the screen) but even official sources and reporters can get information wrong.
Historians and reporters to this day still don't have access to the Beverly Hills Police murder files because the murder case is not closed yet so the FBI files were the next best source of information. If the murderer was 20 years old at the time they still could be alive (about 97 years old).
Lots of false information but entertaining
What is false?