"Reach out to a professional for help!" He says, apparently not knowing how few of us can afford doctors, how few therapists are available, and even still how few are actually any good and actually helpful. Pop yourself full of happy pills and get back to work, slave! The doc needs to buy a fifth yacht.
@@The_Serpent_of_Eden and God help you if you mention to your doc that you smoke weed, then that's the real cause of all your woes and you should no longer be treated as a human
@@markleyp03 The devil's lettuce?!?!! You need to have proper Protestant vices instead. Like alcohol, coffee, cigarettes, or good old fashioned hatred of minority groups.
I always used to think ppl just needed to stop pretending when they said they were depressed and couldn't function properly. Until I noticed myself being tired, unmotivated and generally down. Tried to shake it off. But one day at the kitchen table at home while playing a board game with my 5 year old and my wife, I had a severe panic attack. Started feeling cold and sweating, was shaking and hyperventilating. A strong feeling that I was about to die soared inside me. Years of supressed feelings and emotions take a toll aparantly. I'm now medicated and feel so much better.
My beef with “depression” as a medical diagnosis is that it often goes something like this: “Hi, my name is Sarah. I’m poor, obese, have no friends, and come from a toxic family. I can’t maintain a steady relationship and, at 35, I feel like I’m not progressing my life. I live with my dog and am constantly afraid of eviction. I’m depressed.” Or: “Hi, my name is Tom. I’m 25 years old, $187,000 in student debt, still living with my folks, and I’ve been struggling to find a job for the last four years. I haven’t had a single girlfriend all my life and am getting extremely self-conscious about it. I’m depressed.” Or: “Hi, my name is Sally and my mother died this year. My husband and I are struggling to make ends meet as I stay at home by myself to care for our twin infant boys. There’s constant bickering, I’m grieving and sleep deprived, my house is cluttered, and I can’t remember who I am outside of motherhood. I’m depressed.” There are so often several deeply upsetting circumstances people are dealing with which appear to be the glaring source of their pain. And these cannot be fixed with drugs. That makes the medical establishment next to useless to address them. It seems to me that by medicalizing people’s mental problems we assume that somehow they should be able to function at some level of wellness in any set of life circumstances. But is it not completely normal that a perfectly healthy human being would become despondent and check out from life when forced to deal with poverty, pain, isolation, disease, debt, toxicity, and all the other influences that can afflict us? I am a mentally healthy person. I have a million and one privileges to be grateful for which have enabled my state. I look at some of these “depressed” folk and can’t help but think, “Yeah, if I started living your life tomorrow, I’d be just as miserable.”
All you say is correct. _At the same time_ many people feeling depressed are not experiencing any profound, chronic stresses. Some peoole with depression have no idea why they feel depressed. And there is tremendous stigma to admitting one has depression, when everything in your life is "just fine".
@@sneakerbabeful I don’t doubt that your brain can be ill. When it is, it makes sense that you would experience effects sometimes in its various functions, like emotional regulation. I appreciate that. My criticism here is that I don’t perceive the people pushing to raise awareness about depression as making an allowance for the fact that perfectly healthy people will absolutely behave as those described to be depressed when facing sustained poverty, unemployment, disease, community deterioration, debt, corruption, overwork, isolation, toxic family dynamics, and all the many other social problems out there. It is unreasonable, in my opinion, to expect people burdened in this way to function optimally, or else it’s an indication that there’s something medically wrong with them. I get the impulse: writing a prescription is easier than fixing poverty (for example). But it also makes us avoid asking incredibly important questions like, “Why do we have an epidemic of people with depressive symptoms? Where are we going wrong in how we organize our communities, governments, and economic system? What do we need to do, systemically, to produce better outcomes?” When you understand that people need to be *set up* to thrive, to function optimally, your approach to problem solving is very different. I’m reminded a lot of when we have school shooters and everyone suddenly wants to talk about mental health. What about all the many ways our environment, lifestyles, and policy choices create a preponderance of poor, marginalized, underparented, kids with no sense of belonging in the wider community? So much feeds into our societal outcomes which has nothing to do with some medical pathology of the brain.
@@sneakerbabeful this is true--but it doesn't negate the fact that many of us suffer a deep crippling existential depression because, guess what, the world is a massive dumpster fire, and we are powerless to make any improvements. Yes, some people are helped by drugs and therapy--and many of us aren't. Maybe we should look at actually improving the world at large, to benefit everyone, rather than only helping the segment that benefits from a lifetime of expensive, side-effect riddled pills. Yes depression can have a physical cause, yes mental health is still stigmatized. But be honest: the shitty society created by our ancestors exacerbates it. If you look at the world and are depressed by the injustice, the climate devastation, and the banality and persuasiveness of casual evil, cruelty, and violence.... the solution is not pills.I don't need "fixing," I don't have a medical problem. I need a living wage and not to have my life constantly threatened by fascists, thanks.
@@anamandic4540 While I do agree (which is why integrating mental health services into a welfare state/social services seems like an good idea public-policy wise), one advantage of some level of medicalisation of those with depression with unfortunate circumstances is that it can be become a self-fulfilling prophecy. If you are so lethargic and unmotivated with depression that you can barely get out of bed, then life-circumstances become a bit of a chicken-and-egg problem, so the most effective solution would be to tackle the issue from both ends. As for your other point, I wonder what integrating societal mental health impacts on decision making might look like in practice. Aside from economic inequality (which is a whole ideological minefield of its own), many of the societal issues that might exacerbate mental health come down to things public policy can't easily touch, because they are cultural or just human. For example, people spending hours a day looking at unrealistically-perfect social media stars and developing a distorted self-image as a result - even proposals meant to address social media issues like deanonymisation and more aggressive moderation wouldn't address that problem, and you are fighting against an innate human desire to look at pretty and successful people. Or say, more people going without a long-term partner throughout their lives. Research suggests there is a positive association between marriage and mental health (although, obviously not for people with unhappy marriages), and that fewer people are forming long-term relationships (including cohabitation without marriage). Does that mean government should more actively promote marriage/long-term cohabitation for the sake of mental health? I mean, maybe, but I'm not sure how that would work and many people in the West would find it intrusive. I do agree with you overall that mental health should play into policy debates, it's that governments can be somewhat impotent in the face of many (but not all!) of the causes of issues.
Love this channel!! Thank you for talking about this. As a neuro/public health postgrad, I cannot stress this sentence enough: mental health IS physical health. And it’s high time society stop passively or actively perpetuating the myth that mental health treatment or resources, are luxuries rather than basic human rights.
@@petemavus2948ok so if you met someone mentally disabled… let’s just say that? What would you think of it as? Just curious? Resentment or possibly neglect them
I suffered from severe anxiety and depression for the last 20 years (30 now) and only in the past two years started getting help for it. So many times my parents and others have told me to "just get over it" and that hurt because I couldn't get over it, I wanted to be "normal". I wish I was treated 20 years ago rather than letting all of that anxiety and depression build up to a breaking point. It ruined a bunch of opportunities that I ran away from because of my anxiety and depression. Get help now rather than waiting til it gets really bad.
Sorry for replying so late but what type of treatment did you get that you found worked? I've tried therapy, even going in with goals and all I get are bored people waiting for me to vent to them. Medication, which works at first but after 6 months has pretty much no effect and I'm back to baseline except then I have to take a pill to not have withdrawals or just wean myself off. Mindfulness and addressing my emotions, it's had some use, I was so "emotionally constipated" before I didn't know what emotion I was even feeling at any given time. Still depressed though.
Can you imagine someone saying "it's all in your lungs" for asthma or "it's all in your stomach" for ulcers? Like, yes. That is precisely the problem. "It's all in your head" because that's where the brain is. So help with fixing the brain, pls. (Also a reminder that if you can't make your own neurotransmitters, store-bought is fine.)
That reminds me of a cartoon I saw somewhere on the internet. The text was something like this: Person 1: "Why are you depressed? There are plenty of wonderful things to enjoy!" Person 2: "Why do you have asthma? There's plenty of air all around!"
This is the most ignorant and disrespectful comment I've seen in a long time. Listen if you need to believe that mental health diagnosis are real to validate your sufferings that's fine I have no problem with delusion, but next time actually be informed, research first instead of insulting individuals who actually live with medical conditions such as Asthma and lung problems as you pointed out. I can see I'll have to school some young person again but before I do, please don't take anything I'm saying as truthful, prove me wrong lol do your own research and at least try understanding why so many people including those who once medicated and believed in psychiatry, no longer believe in it... It's life changing. But let's begin. I love when people try making comparisons but they fail because they don't understand the basics between conditions, you can just be put here naming conditions to compare too just because you've heard about. Now I have to set the record straight. Firstly what are you talking about when you said "If you can't make your own neurotransmitters, store bought is fine"... It sounds like you're someone who bought into the "Chemical imbalance" theory which I pray isn't the case considering the medical community abandoned that theory in the 80's,onlt parasitic therapists use that line to sell you drugs meanwhile no evidence anywhere exists proving its existence. As for store bought is fine, you realize that Antidepressants, SSRIs, SNRI, Antipsychotic and benzodiazepines actually cause temporary to permanent loss of neurotransmitter/receptor production when exposed these medications long term right? It's a big reason you here so many people speak against antidepressants and its the reason you're never find a study which shows effectiveness, safety and benefits from any antidepressant/antipsychotic and benzo beyond 6 months, such studies don't exist. The latest study we have was published in 2018 which was a meta analysis which took 522 reports (Observational meaning a survey based useless report) involving 21 antidepressants, it concluded that antidepressant were a little better then the placebo effect which is terrible. Store bought is not fine considering you're body rejects these substances, you cause shrinkage to the brain while injuring your receptors and you can Nervous system dysfunction over time. The lung and asthma comparison lol, I love it when ignorant people try putting themselves in a tax bracket such as serious autoimmune conditions to validate themselves... Sweetheart or buddy, you forgot one major aspect of the comparison... Um, we can measure, run lab work, taking imaging which concludes a person is suffering from asthma and lung conditions lol, it's not even slightly the same... Another comparison people love making is the "Would you tell someone who has a insulin sensitivity not to take their insulin" lol do you hear yourselves? Autoimmune conditions having actual testing its the biggest separation between psychiatry and actual modern medical science... Ever ask yourself why so many people have issues accepting mental health conditions and psychiatry as a field of study? It's because psychiatry is the only field within medicine which can't confirm a diagnoses because there's no known tests for any of them, its all made up backed with epidemiological and observational reports while being lied to that there's a chemical imbalance lol, not realising that these antidepressants are causing the chemical imabalnce lol its the biggest sinister lie of all time, go ahead prove me wrong... Go look at how the DSM-1 was created, then the DSM-3 all the way to 5.the one thing they all have in common is how these diagnoses formed, a bunch of psychiatrists sat around and voted on if a diagnoses made it to these books... Yeah, think about that for second, they voted these diagnoses in without medical intervention or confirmation lol hell the reason the DSM-1 - 5 was even created was because psychiatry was the laughing stock of modern medicine, it needed a way to get its foot in the door... So it took a page out of the Bible and made a book completely making up criteria and catagories... Get this, if any of the board members had a symptom in their diagnose checklist, that diagnoses was scrapped. You are literally being diagnosed within 5 minutes of meeting a patient with a big old check list, so you can be coded... Sold a pill and placed on the biggest scams for life. Next time actually do some research first, you are comparing a imaginary field of interest which is all based around puesdo-science to a actual medical condition which can be shown on paper multiple times over using medical detection and investigation... Psychiatry and its medications are so bad, its the only deilf where you can go to five other psychiatrists and get a different diagnosis from all five hell even psychiatrists are against the DSM edition which is where 98% of diagnoses involving the mind comes from so next time, be more respectful and realize you are in no place or position to compare... Again one exists and can be proven while the other can't, go ahead research this and or ask you psychiatrists, unless they convinced you about the chemical Imbalance theory, if that's the case don't even bother he or she will just lie to you again.
@@GCT1990 There are plenty of people who've benefitted from medication so that alone is a lie. And there are neuroscientists who're doing brain scans to show the differences between someone with a regular healthy brain and those with mental illnesses. The brain is an organ like all other organs in your body. It can not function as smoothly sometimes and needs treatment. That said, if OP is the worst comment you've seen, I'd wager you're the one who's delusional and sheltered in her anti-mental illness bubble.
It's truly disheartening that in today's day and age, mental health is one of the things that still gets dismissed as a hoax and 'something that fixes itself along the way'. I wouldn't say that my family is exactly against the concept, but it's taken too lightly. The usual 'focus on other things and your lethargy and sadness will go away' is the staple for adults. But I don't completely blame them for it; their parents never gave importance to it, and so it was never taught to them either. But the problem arises when they themselves refuse to change or accept scientific proofs when their own children are clearly struggling. That's either hardcore ignorance or conscious denial. But to everyone out there suffering from mental health issues, I pray that you get the help and support you need even if it isn't from your blood relatives. We are all in this together, and we'll get through it as well. Stay strong. :)
As someone who has dealt with "depression" their whole life (it's actually complex PTSD caused by my abusive NPD mother), and studied neurology and psychology, this is my theory on the cause (in the majority of cases). While genetics plays a role it's not quite in the way people think. We get our genes from our parents so those are set for life, however the expression of those genes is regulated by their environment ie your lived experiences. The brain develops along roughly the same lives in everyone, we all have the same overall structure, but the details are shaped by our lives. As infants we have billions of connections that will atrophy as other connections are strengthened, forming the basis of our behaviours as we grow older. The brain, like any organ, has an ideal environment in which it was evolved to function. For mammals this includes a period of nurture as we learn to be independent, this is essential to the correct formation of adult behaviours. This is the same in humans. If children are not made to feel safe, protected and nurtured as they grow then their brain will form connections which leads to "depression". This can also be seen in animals, for example "learned helplessness" in the famous Skinner Box experiment. Anxiety comes from feeling like you have no control over your environment. If a child never knows how a parent will react to the same behaviours day to day - because the parent's mood effects their treatment of them - then they cannot form the ability to make decisions which will keep them safe. The child finds themselves in a state of chronic stress leading to increased cortisol levels which also affect to way pathways form in the brain. Modern society also contributes in that our lifestyles are very different to those which we evolved to thrive in, we are stone-age brains living in a space-age civilisation. Overcrowding is known to cause anxiety in other mammals, it appears to be the same for us. Yet we lack the community that our ancestors had, we have no tribe to support us in the rearing of children. We are mammals who think we can live without the things that mammals need because we have so much other "stuff". But none of it matters when your miserable.
Well said, im going to break the generational trauma, my childhood was filled with terrible things i spent so much time dealing with drug abuse and my mental health, terrible insecurity and fear of everything, Because im poor i had to find mental health resources and ways to fix myself and have spent years with just self help and ive made incredible progress, for me the holistic, mindfulness and spiritual path really worked well for me and though i still have plenty of hurdles and challenges i look at them with positivity and as things that will help me grow and not things i should fear. My faith in god also feels like a cheat code and helps me immensely though everyones path to self growth will be different. I wish you all the best and hope we as a society offer plenty of mental health resources as a free human right because most people will not be able to self help as i did. I guarentee mass shootings and suicides will drastically go down if we change our society and how we raise the next generations. I will mold my kids to have everything they need to prosper and instill in them the tools and strength to be independent and also the security that love and compassion of a parent provides.
I wish it meant something to be seen. Everyone around me either sees I'm depressed or I've told them, but being seen doesn't mean people care, and people avoid me these days more than they care. I hate being diseased, I've been depressed for over half my life now since adolescence. This is no way to live, yet somehow I'm supposed to find reasons to keep fighting. I hate this, it's cruel to have to live life like this with no treatment or end in sight.
Have you experienced no symptom relief, from antidepressants, or non-medical options? Separate question: do you go through periods where you feel either: pretty optimistic and ready to make up for lost time, -or- agitated and high energy while still feeling depressed?
@@DannyD-lr5yg I have had periods of symptom relief lasting perhaps 1-3 months here and there over the years. Mostly these periods are in the spring and summer, my favorite seasons and when I'm able to get outside and enjoy the weather. I've had symptoms lessen in magnitude with medication but they've never gotten me to remission. I think of it as they help raise my baseline mood slightly to a neutral mood and they keep me from falling too deep down a dark valley of especially low moods. I've been on 3-4 different antidepressants trying a dose range for all of them. Typically they would work for a while to boost my mood and motivation, but they all seemed to diminish in effectiveness over time. I took a genetic test to get a better idea of what antidepressants I should respond best to, now I'm taking the tricyclic Nortriptyline 75mg/buproprion 150mg. They seem effective but it's the same as the rest, it keeps me at a baseline so I don't fall into a deep depression. As far as non-medication treatments go, I've always had motivation problems to sustain things like routine meditation/mindfulness practice and workout regimens, plus I'm so busy with work and school it's hard to prioritize those things which feel more trivial. I eat pretty healthy and I live a pretty active lifestyle so that's not a big issue. I have been in therapy pretty consistently over the years but I didn't have a consistent therapist until the last 2 years or so, I have been so poor that I relied on free options like employee assistance programs through multiple jobs to get therapy, but EAPs usually do a free trial to cover like 3-6 sessions for free and I'd milk that however I can. Even over the last 2 years I've gotten my therapists and my psychiatrist as volunteers from a mental health outreach program operated out of a church in the city I live in/near. They're licenced professionals so it's not like it's compromised quality treatments or therapy and my psychiatrist has stayed consistent over the years and has also volunteered his services to me over the last couple years. They have been blessings to have in my life, I'm not religious but they are angels. But I'm unfortunately not out of the woods yet and in fact I'm adding a second therapist because I'm getting tired of this hopelessness and I really just want to die. As I said, this is no way to live, but I'm at least trying.
@@DannyD-lr5yg @Ma M I didn't respond to your second question. Yes to the first, I have had periods of optimism, but there's no making up for lost time. I'm just trying to get to a place everyone else seems to be at. And yeah everyone has their problems blah blah blah. I have a suspicion it's rare for someone to have mental health issues to the magnitude I've experienced. As for the agitation/motivation, not really. I felt that way in the second half of last year into this year but that's been the only time I've felt agitated/angry and using that as fuel for motivated action
@@DannyD-lr5yg thank you for your sympathy, it does help. I want to be recognized for the hell I've suffered through. I've been fighting this losing battle for 14 years and it's affected and infected every aspect of my life. Most everyone just want to ignore me or downplay my suffering as "everyone has their battles" but that feels insulting. I don't care if everyone has their battles, rarely do they has have to battle for the relative blessing of a 5/10 day for over half their lives give or take. Rarely do people get flash images of being shot through the head every single day. Rarely do they have an automatic reactionary tick in their brain constantly saying "I hate myself" "I'm disgusting" "I fuck everything up" "i want to die" "please kill me" I want my fucking recognition. This has been hard. So. Fucking. Hard. 😭😭😭
I've had depression in waves for my whole life, like a lot of people. As an adult I'm trying to build up an understanding of it as a bodily process, a necessary part of my body like breathing or weeping. Our brains are incredibly adaptable, so adaptable in fact that we can actually become comfortable in incredibly shitty situations, because of physical neurons actually being created. To adapt to a new situation, it would be reasonable to expect that the brain would need to go through a physical change to get out of a toxic situation. Depression feels a lot like dying because in a lot of ways, it IS dying. Your brain needs to reconfigure to get out of shitty situations and that process is going to be painful.
Self awareness of how your body and mind are affected by environmental factors is vital to all aspects of health, including mental. Sleep Diet Social interactions Work Leisure Stress Etc etc For me, the primary levers we're sleep and diet. I give a cameo to learning acceptance, of myself and the world around me; To control and affect what I can, but accept and not worry about things I have little to no control over. I also dumped nearly all social media. If I want to be social, we can talk over a meal, beer, or other activity I enjoy. Resolved my bipolar and depression issues. Been off meds for over 15 years. Last bit I changed was the diet, which was the last piece of the puzzle. Not had any mental health issues, even minor, that I can recall for over 5 years since that change, and my lives been a rollercoaster the past 3 years now..
@@Mus4shi15Systems of oppression affect us all. Care must be holistic based on our lived experiences. For example, it didn't help when my doctor told me to get outside because there were regular stabbings and shootings on my street. What you can do to cope/heal depends on who you are, where you are, and what you're going through.
I resolved my bipolar and depression issues with dietary changes, and addressing my sleep apnea. It was definitely not all in my head, though some of it was.
I'm a 27 years old man. My mind is in so much pain. 2 months ago, in an extremely distressing and painful emotional situation, I hit my head against the headboard of my bed. Now I have a minor cut on my forehead. People can't really notice it but I so much wish it fades away over time. It has impacted my self esteem quite negatively. All the time, I am conscious of myself. Every morning I wake up and get scared by seeing myself in the mirror. I repeatedly keep on asking myself questions like how could I do that to myself. But believe me, that moment was emotionally intensely suffocating and stressful for me. I wanted to scream alot to ease my pain that night but did not wish to disturb my parents.
@@user-pl1ki3ok6g Please talk to anyone you trust about this, your life has value, your discomforts have value, so do your pains and woes. Please, I repeat, please talk to someone trusted, maybe your parents, though please try to broach the subject softly with them -though they love you they still wouldn't fully understand it at first as you've had a longer time to think and rationalise the situation than them. Please don't feel pressured by all this, just get the help you need so you can get your life back. Don't forget your loved
As a neuroscientist who's career has been spent in understanding the biological basis of mental health issues, THANK YOU!!! More people need to hear this. The brain is part of the body. It's very complex and in comparison to other organ systems much remains to be understood about the brain, and this is a reason to be interested in exploring this and not a reason to write off health issues involving the brain. History has shown that as we better understand the biological basis of mental health issues, the less stigmatized they become (and the more they end up in the area of Neurology, but that's a different issue). Alzheimer's and other dementias, Rett Syndrome, and Narcolepsy are just a few of many examples that spring to mind. Additionally stigma can impeded research in many ways, including preventing people from volunteering to participate in studies on mental health and limiting funding for research into these stigmatized areas of health. Keep up the good work, and let me know if there’s anyway I can lend my expertise and experience in this field to your future coverage of mental healthcare.
I'm a 27 years old man. My mind is in so much pain. 2 months ago, in an extremely distressing and painful emotional situation, I hit my head against the headboard of my bed. Now I have a minor cut on my forehead. People can't really notice it but I so much wish it fades away over time. It has impacted my self esteem quite negatively. All the time, I am conscious of myself. Every morning I wake up and get scared by seeing myself in the mirror. I repeatedly keep on asking myself questions like how could I do that to myself. But believe me, that moment was emotionally intensely suffocating and stressful for me. I wanted to scream alot to ease my pain that night but did not wish to disturb my parents.
HCT, first time commenter. Long time subscriber. Medical student, OMS-IV. I’d love an in-depth look into mental health treatment (or lack there of) for health care professional at all levels. Stigma…current practice…data… anything you feel is important to address for both the public’s understanding and provider’s knowledge
Mental problems were seen to be spiritual or metaphysical for so long that science is just now catching up with the study of our mental life and the organs involved to studies of the heart, bones, spleen etc.. This is just now converging with the availability or better tools to help this long neglected science. I hope the prejudice fades as new generations of people trained to understand this science and new generations of the public learn with the scientific community. BTW I listened to the reproducibility crisis podcasts and I was impressed with the wide range and depth of the fields that were involved and were discussed over the series. Good Job!
3:13 - kudos to whoever snuck this clip into a video otherwise composed entirely of generic 3D medical illustrations and a [very handsome :] talking head!
I just started a new medication for anxiety and depression and casually mentioned it at work since coming on and off these medications have a few annoying symptoms (mostly nausea for me) but it shocked me when a couple people told me "I didn't need that crap" telling me it's no good for you, try meditation. I countered with I think I'll take advice from my doctor not you, not unkindly. and they came back with the doctors are the ones making money off this. I was genuinly baffled. I'm not unawear of the conspiracy of doctors being pushed into overprescribing medications for profits, a serious issue no doubt. but to believe all anitdepresents are just pushed on people for monay and don't help at all? I worry about people who've gotten that far down teh rabbit hole. Meications work for some and not others (which is probably where the controversies in their effectiveness comes from) but I think it's pretty ignorant to say they're all crap. I suppose all I'm really saying is, I wish people would be more open minded in understanding mental illness and how complicated it is to treat.
I'm a 27 years old man. My mind is in so much pain. 2 months ago, in an extremely distressing and painful emotional situation, I hit my head against the headboard of my bed. Now I have a minor cut on my forehead. People can't really notice it but I so much wish it fades away over time. It has impacted my self esteem quite negatively. All the time, I am conscious of myself. Every morning I wake up and get scared by seeing myself in the mirror. I repeatedly keep on asking myself questions like how could I do that to myself. But believe me, that moment was emotionally intensely suffocating and stressful for me. I wanted to scream alot to ease my pain that night but did not wish to disturb my parents.
Thanks for your amazing content! It's very helpful! If I could have one suggestion - the shirt you're wearing masks it tough to watch the video. CZcams makes the small pattern flash, at least on my screen.
I think accepting mental health is dictated by physical processes would threaten the idea of free will and/or a metaphysical basis for our consciousness, so people will resist regardless of evidence
Are we about to witness another leap forward in health care? I have personally been witness to several very recent, including this mention of mental health, changes in institutional understanding and behavior towards mental health not in related healthcare fields. I know this may seem like confirmation bias or proximity bias but it feels like something is shifting culturally. I hope I'm right. I hope the approaches you mention will take us in a new direction of care and understanding. For if we take away the brain is there a mind?
Just last year, after 36 years of life, I finally discovered I have ADHD. It's recontextualized so much about my life. I was never dismissive of psychological disorders anyway, but now that I've realized I have one myself it's just like...damn, I really get it now. I can't just willpower my way through stuff cuz my brain literally doesn't provide me with much willpower in the first place lol
I also discovered I had ADHD relatively recently, and it's made me re-contextualize a whole ton of memories about my life. And my parents! I think they probably both have it too and growing up around them was a big part of why I was never diagnosed earlier. It seemed to me like what I now recognize as clear symptoms of ADHD was just how our family was.
@@jliller I was already in therapy and made it a point to ask, that's all it took. And if you think that's bad, try getting diagnosed with autism over the age of 30. When not in therapy. ._. I did it somehow but Would Not Recommend.
The physical/mental distinction is a poor way to understand stigma against mental health. A better distinction is the "DIY" vs "MD". If I have a small cut, I put on an adhesive bandage myself. That's DIY. Broken leg? Go to the hospital. That's MD. If I went around complaining about a small cut but refusing to do anything about it, people would understandably be dismissive of my predicament. Nobody stigmatized me when I broke my leg. Mental illness is easily misperceived as having a DIY solution by lay people who don't know any better. The solution is to explain to people that mental illness is not a DIY condition.
I honestly get pissed when I hear that it’s all in my head. Someone seeking help probably shouldn’t hear that. We are aware it’s in our head. We are simply struggling to get help. Treading water and close to drowning. It’s overwhelming
I expect that there are 10 or more different conditions which get classified as depression, hence the hit and miss treatments. It seems naive to me also to assume they are all malfunctions, and that depression isn't sometimes normal healthy brain function and emotional responses to dysfunctional life situations that no one wants to acknowledge because they're near impossible to remedy.
Been a long time since I've been normal, probably never, started my paramedic career a couple years before 9/11 and now COVID is trying to stay around and bookend my career.
The thing is, the business of psychiatry is to not care about the patients' health and keep treating them for problems they dont have! When you have some health problems you find out how irresponsible and cold hearted these professionals are and they use guards to chase hurting people out of the hospital, too!
I'm know there are lots of people able to live better, more functional lives thanks to chemistry. But I've also known several people who struggled with their prescribed meds - either when starting out or when they had to change meds after several years, for whatever reason. The experimental period of trying to figure what meds in what dose will actually effectively treat the problem(s) without undo side effects makes me really uneasy. There's also the issue of collateral damage. I'm really good at what I do because I can remember a lot of things most people can't, and I notice little details most people don't. But those abilities come with drawbacks: I also remember things I'd rather forget and am troubled by things that I normal people are oblivious about. Any meds that would dull these issues would also dull my superpowers.
It's awful I became mentally unwell because of a chronic herpes virus and nearly died bit hey ho I was mad for have being worried about a chronic incurable disease.
Psychedelics are very promising. 50 grams of fresh shrooms for what McKenna called a heroic dose, with an 8 to 12 hour intense experience one will be some time in processing, is very appealing. Some like microdosing, but that is not much for me. Somewhat beneficial, but nothing like a dose of 50 grams of fresh shrooms. I look forward to your upcoming videos. Thanks for what you do.
That's true. I don't care. I just don't want to acknowledge your issues so I try to shift the blame onto your lack of personal character. By saying it's all in your head. So you can cure yourself if you really want to.
People want to help, but they don't know how, or they don't understand what you're going through. Empathy is hard. It's much easier to make a few recommendations, get outside and exercise, or seek professional help, than to actually discuss and process your issues. Besides, much of the problem is your environment or experiences. Not many people have the resources to change your environment or to help process your experiences. But you are always there for yourself, so change is most stable coming from within, even when aided by friends or professionals. It's not all in your head. I've had depression for 10+ years.
@@TreesPlease42Yup, i think creating a healthy worldview and triyng to reduce overthinking through various methods of meditation might be one of the better solutions. Also another thing that improves my mood pretty consistently is matcha tea, i think it's specifically the l-theanine wich appears to improve my mood.
Your deliverance is in Jesus Christ! Listen to testimonies from people around the world and you will hear about horrific situations they have endured from suicide to hearing voices which are demonic etc. Hear they're testimonies on CZcams. May the Lord deliver you from the bandage of oppression depression anxiety that has plague you all of your life. May you experience his peace that will flood your entire being. May the Lord surround you in love and perfect peace that only comes from him alone.
I thought I had depression but after fixing my diet, sleep and excercise I realize our brains are also physical constructs. Meaning there is no mental component it is all physical we just think there is a mental component
My biggest problem with the handling of depression, anxiety, etc. is that its viewed by patients, and sometimes doctors, as no different than a bacterial infection. Just take your pills and congratulations, you're fixed. But that was never their intended use -- they're symptom management while you, the individual, address the underlying concerns: be it stress, poor sleep habits, dietary problem, and more. If you've been on anti-depressants your whole life, or 10+ years, it isn't the drug that's failing.
They're called FEELINGS.... just because you're sad at the moment doesn't mean you're "depressed"... Sadly, everyone wants to be a victim or afflicted with some ailment.
Dose anyone who has delt with all the things he was talking about cause you tell he never has smh how someone treat something they never had to deal with lmao what a joke
My ex did this to me at 16 he was spoon fed and went to a private school he had everything handed to him. Daniel.s He is now one of those people on instagram who says he supports peoples lives! It infuriates me, the absolute ignorance and hypocrisy! How much pain it caused me back then. To feel so invalidated by someone who claimed to love me. And he’s still ignorant today. Promoting himself as if he helps peoples lives! Whilst his sister is also depressed. And he ignores her like he did me and says it’s all in your head. Be Careful of these Instagram influences they’re all fake as shit.
“Mental illness” is such a misleading, dishonest term for a video that attempts to be buddy-buddy with the viewer. Likening long periods of sadness and lowered mood to a sickness is just plain inaccurate and irresponsible.
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It seems wrong to reduce the mind to merely the brain. That reductionist argument seems to eliminate spirit, and clearly hasn't served us. While there are some physical sources for mental illness for sure, it seems like there's an untouched, broader, societal psyche that is ill and uncared for, and THAT is what is grossly sick. I have had depression for more than 20 years. I've tried numerous medications and seen several therapists. Nothing has helped. Know why? There is nothing physically wrong with me. I am not ill. I am Awake. We destroyed the planet through greed and pollution. Poisoned our water, deforested our land, eliminated thousands of species crucial to Earth's ecosystem. We won't be able to pollinate cropa soon. Let's not forget broader impacts of flooding, droughts, and severe, out of season storms and fires. We, at least in the US where I live, have a corrupt government that actively works to hurt its citizens rather than help them. Oh yes, there's also WWIII and nuclear annihilation from an old bloated egomaniac, egged on by American bloated egomaniacs, going on in Europe. And beyond that, I'm a slave to capitalism. I have a college degree and work a full time job, and can't afford to heat my crappy apartment. My generation is crippled by college debt, flat wages, no benefits; we can't afford to buy homes or start families; and robber baron oligarchs steal from us. Oh yes, and the fascists, who could forget the fascists? They want to kill me because I'm gay and non-Christian. And you want to say depression and anxiety are due to chemical imbalances in my head? There is nothing wrong with my brain. The illness is not located there. "Reach out to a health care professional, they want to help!" Get outta here. You offer no real solutions, no real aid, just an ugly judgment far, far out of reach for most of us. You're part of the problem.
There's a difference between having biological depression where your brain literally isn't functioning properly, and going through a depression due to troubling circumstances. If that's where you are, I'm sorry for that pain. But telling others that it's some con is disingenuous considering by your opinion, you don't have a mental illness, you're just going through a stressful time. So why are you here?
Close to 300 million people(according to sources you can all find) have depression. How come the rest of the world's population are so lucky? ;) Well, I guess the rest of them decided to stop blaming something else but themselves.
Well at least it’s not the 1800’s. I mean clearly there’s a stigma in our head cuz we grew up in harsher society back then. Well I’d wish they put the same thought to mentally disabled people? Wait, isn’t that supposedly considered a mental health status? They actually don’t care about that? There’s also mentally disabled people in Africa who are starving.
Well shifting blame onto the personal failure of the individual is so much cheaper than actually doing any for them.
"Reach out to a professional for help!" He says, apparently not knowing how few of us can afford doctors, how few therapists are available, and even still how few are actually any good and actually helpful.
Pop yourself full of happy pills and get back to work, slave! The doc needs to buy a fifth yacht.
@@The_Serpent_of_Eden and God help you if you mention to your doc that you smoke weed, then that's the real cause of all your woes and you should no longer be treated as a human
@@markleyp03 The devil's lettuce?!?!! You need to have proper Protestant vices instead. Like alcohol, coffee, cigarettes, or good old fashioned hatred of minority groups.
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I always used to think ppl just needed to stop pretending when they said they were depressed and couldn't function properly. Until I noticed myself being tired, unmotivated and generally down. Tried to shake it off. But one day at the kitchen table at home while playing a board game with my 5 year old and my wife, I had a severe panic attack. Started feeling cold and sweating, was shaking and hyperventilating. A strong feeling that I was about to die soared inside me. Years of supressed feelings and emotions take a toll aparantly. I'm now medicated and feel so much better.
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@@ems7623 it sure did.
Hopefully you’re in therapy also, that’s important also. Best of luck working through those feelings, it’s tuff but worth it.
@@bianca4829 Have been going to therapy yeah. and to be quite frank. I think everyone should try. It Was so worth it.
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My beef with “depression” as a medical diagnosis is that it often goes something like this:
“Hi, my name is Sarah. I’m poor, obese, have no friends, and come from a toxic family. I can’t maintain a steady relationship and, at 35, I feel like I’m not progressing my life. I live with my dog and am constantly afraid of eviction. I’m depressed.”
Or: “Hi, my name is Tom. I’m 25 years old, $187,000 in student debt, still living with my folks, and I’ve been struggling to find a job for the last four years. I haven’t had a single girlfriend all my life and am getting extremely self-conscious about it. I’m depressed.”
Or: “Hi, my name is Sally and my mother died this year. My husband and I are struggling to make ends meet as I stay at home by myself to care for our twin infant boys. There’s constant bickering, I’m grieving and sleep deprived, my house is cluttered, and I can’t remember who I am outside of motherhood. I’m depressed.”
There are so often several deeply upsetting circumstances people are dealing with which appear to be the glaring source of their pain. And these cannot be fixed with drugs. That makes the medical establishment next to useless to address them. It seems to me that by medicalizing people’s mental problems we assume that somehow they should be able to function at some level of wellness in any set of life circumstances. But is it not completely normal that a perfectly healthy human being would become despondent and check out from life when forced to deal with poverty, pain, isolation, disease, debt, toxicity, and all the other influences that can afflict us?
I am a mentally healthy person. I have a million and one privileges to be grateful for which have enabled my state. I look at some of these “depressed” folk and can’t help but think, “Yeah, if I started living your life tomorrow, I’d be just as miserable.”
All you say is correct. _At the same time_ many people feeling depressed are not experiencing any profound, chronic stresses. Some peoole with depression have no idea why they feel depressed. And there is tremendous stigma to admitting one has depression, when everything in your life is "just fine".
@@sneakerbabeful I don’t doubt that your brain can be ill. When it is, it makes sense that you would experience effects sometimes in its various functions, like emotional regulation. I appreciate that.
My criticism here is that I don’t perceive the people pushing to raise awareness about depression as making an allowance for the fact that perfectly healthy people will absolutely behave as those described to be depressed when facing sustained poverty, unemployment, disease, community deterioration, debt, corruption, overwork, isolation, toxic family dynamics, and all the many other social problems out there. It is unreasonable, in my opinion, to expect people burdened in this way to function optimally, or else it’s an indication that there’s something medically wrong with them. I get the impulse: writing a prescription is easier than fixing poverty (for example). But it also makes us avoid asking incredibly important questions like, “Why do we have an epidemic of people with depressive symptoms? Where are we going wrong in how we organize our communities, governments, and economic system? What do we need to do, systemically, to produce better outcomes?” When you understand that people need to be *set up* to thrive, to function optimally, your approach to problem solving is very different.
I’m reminded a lot of when we have school shooters and everyone suddenly wants to talk about mental health. What about all the many ways our environment, lifestyles, and policy choices create a preponderance of poor, marginalized, underparented, kids with no sense of belonging in the wider community? So much feeds into our societal outcomes which has nothing to do with some medical pathology of the brain.
@@sneakerbabeful this is true--but it doesn't negate the fact that many of us suffer a deep crippling existential depression because, guess what, the world is a massive dumpster fire, and we are powerless to make any improvements. Yes, some people are helped by drugs and therapy--and many of us aren't. Maybe we should look at actually improving the world at large, to benefit everyone, rather than only helping the segment that benefits from a lifetime of expensive, side-effect riddled pills. Yes depression can have a physical cause, yes mental health is still stigmatized. But be honest: the shitty society created by our ancestors exacerbates it.
If you look at the world and are depressed by the injustice, the climate devastation, and the banality and persuasiveness of casual evil, cruelty, and violence.... the solution is not pills.I don't need "fixing," I don't have a medical problem. I need a living wage and not to have my life constantly threatened by fascists, thanks.
Excellent, excellent comment.
@@anamandic4540 While I do agree (which is why integrating mental health services into a welfare state/social services seems like an good idea public-policy wise), one advantage of some level of medicalisation of those with depression with unfortunate circumstances is that it can be become a self-fulfilling prophecy. If you are so lethargic and unmotivated with depression that you can barely get out of bed, then life-circumstances become a bit of a chicken-and-egg problem, so the most effective solution would be to tackle the issue from both ends.
As for your other point, I wonder what integrating societal mental health impacts on decision making might look like in practice. Aside from economic inequality (which is a whole ideological minefield of its own), many of the societal issues that might exacerbate mental health come down to things public policy can't easily touch, because they are cultural or just human. For example, people spending hours a day looking at unrealistically-perfect social media stars and developing a distorted self-image as a result - even proposals meant to address social media issues like deanonymisation and more aggressive moderation wouldn't address that problem, and you are fighting against an innate human desire to look at pretty and successful people.
Or say, more people going without a long-term partner throughout their lives. Research suggests there is a positive association between marriage and mental health (although, obviously not for people with unhappy marriages), and that fewer people are forming long-term relationships (including cohabitation without marriage). Does that mean government should more actively promote marriage/long-term cohabitation for the sake of mental health? I mean, maybe, but I'm not sure how that would work and many people in the West would find it intrusive.
I do agree with you overall that mental health should play into policy debates, it's that governments can be somewhat impotent in the face of many (but not all!) of the causes of issues.
Love this channel!! Thank you for talking about this. As a neuro/public health postgrad, I cannot stress this sentence enough: mental health IS physical health. And it’s high time society stop passively or actively perpetuating the myth that mental health treatment or resources, are luxuries rather than basic human rights.
Industry messages need industrious solutions?
@@petemavus2948 More like capitalism will sell a solution to problems it causes only if that's more profitable than doing nothing.
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@@petemavus2948ok so if you met someone mentally disabled… let’s just say that? What would you think of it as? Just curious? Resentment or possibly neglect them
@@Scrub_Lord-en7cq I don't really understand your comment or questions... Sorry.
I suffered from severe anxiety and depression for the last 20 years (30 now) and only in the past two years started getting help for it. So many times my parents and others have told me to "just get over it" and that hurt because I couldn't get over it, I wanted to be "normal". I wish I was treated 20 years ago rather than letting all of that anxiety and depression build up to a breaking point. It ruined a bunch of opportunities that I ran away from because of my anxiety and depression. Get help now rather than waiting til it gets really bad.
Sorry for replying so late but what type of treatment did you get that you found worked?
I've tried therapy, even going in with goals and all I get are bored people waiting for me to vent to them.
Medication, which works at first but after 6 months has pretty much no effect and I'm back to baseline except then I have to take a pill to not have withdrawals or just wean myself off.
Mindfulness and addressing my emotions, it's had some use, I was so "emotionally constipated" before I didn't know what emotion I was even feeling at any given time. Still depressed though.
Same kinda story
Can you imagine someone saying "it's all in your lungs" for asthma or "it's all in your stomach" for ulcers? Like, yes. That is precisely the problem. "It's all in your head" because that's where the brain is. So help with fixing the brain, pls. (Also a reminder that if you can't make your own neurotransmitters, store-bought is fine.)
"Just breathe! It's easy! I do it all the time. Have you tried exercise?"
That reminds me of a cartoon I saw somewhere on the internet. The text was something like this:
Person 1: "Why are you depressed? There are plenty of wonderful things to enjoy!" Person 2: "Why do you have asthma? There's plenty of air all around!"
This is the most ignorant and disrespectful comment I've seen in a long time. Listen if you need to believe that mental health diagnosis are real to validate your sufferings that's fine I have no problem with delusion, but next time actually be informed, research first instead of insulting individuals who actually live with medical conditions such as Asthma and lung problems as you pointed out.
I can see I'll have to school some young person again but before I do, please don't take anything I'm saying as truthful, prove me wrong lol do your own research and at least try understanding why so many people including those who once medicated and believed in psychiatry, no longer believe in it... It's life changing. But let's begin. I love when people try making comparisons but they fail because they don't understand the basics between conditions, you can just be put here naming conditions to compare too just because you've heard about. Now I have to set the record straight.
Firstly what are you talking about when you said "If you can't make your own neurotransmitters, store bought is fine"... It sounds like you're someone who bought into the "Chemical imbalance" theory which I pray isn't the case considering the medical community abandoned that theory in the 80's,onlt parasitic therapists use that line to sell you drugs meanwhile no evidence anywhere exists proving its existence. As for store bought is fine, you realize that Antidepressants, SSRIs, SNRI, Antipsychotic and benzodiazepines actually cause temporary to permanent loss of neurotransmitter/receptor production when exposed these medications long term right? It's a big reason you here so many people speak against antidepressants and its the reason you're never find a study which shows effectiveness, safety and benefits from any antidepressant/antipsychotic and benzo beyond 6 months, such studies don't exist. The latest study we have was published in 2018 which was a meta analysis which took 522 reports (Observational meaning a survey based useless report) involving 21 antidepressants, it concluded that antidepressant were a little better then the placebo effect which is terrible. Store bought is not fine considering you're body rejects these substances, you cause shrinkage to the brain while injuring your receptors and you can Nervous system dysfunction over time.
The lung and asthma comparison lol, I love it when ignorant people try putting themselves in a tax bracket such as serious autoimmune conditions to validate themselves... Sweetheart or buddy, you forgot one major aspect of the comparison... Um, we can measure, run lab work, taking imaging which concludes a person is suffering from asthma and lung conditions lol, it's not even slightly the same... Another comparison people love making is the "Would you tell someone who has a insulin sensitivity not to take their insulin" lol do you hear yourselves? Autoimmune conditions having actual testing its the biggest separation between psychiatry and actual modern medical science... Ever ask yourself why so many people have issues accepting mental health conditions and psychiatry as a field of study?
It's because psychiatry is the only field within medicine which can't confirm a diagnoses because there's no known tests for any of them, its all made up backed with epidemiological and observational reports while being lied to that there's a chemical imbalance lol, not realising that these antidepressants are causing the chemical imabalnce lol its the biggest sinister lie of all time, go ahead prove me wrong... Go look at how the DSM-1 was created, then the DSM-3 all the way to 5.the one thing they all have in common is how these diagnoses formed, a bunch of psychiatrists sat around and voted on if a diagnoses made it to these books... Yeah, think about that for second, they voted these diagnoses in without medical intervention or confirmation lol hell the reason the DSM-1 - 5 was even created was because psychiatry was the laughing stock of modern medicine, it needed a way to get its foot in the door... So it took a page out of the Bible and made a book completely making up criteria and catagories... Get this, if any of the board members had a symptom in their diagnose checklist, that diagnoses was scrapped. You are literally being diagnosed within 5 minutes of meeting a patient with a big old check list, so you can be coded... Sold a pill and placed on the biggest scams for life. Next time actually do some research first, you are comparing a imaginary field of interest which is all based around puesdo-science to a actual medical condition which can be shown on paper multiple times over using medical detection and investigation... Psychiatry and its medications are so bad, its the only deilf where you can go to five other psychiatrists and get a different diagnosis from all five hell even psychiatrists are against the DSM edition which is where 98% of diagnoses involving the mind comes from so next time, be more respectful and realize you are in no place or position to compare... Again one exists and can be proven while the other can't, go ahead research this and or ask you psychiatrists, unless they convinced you about the chemical Imbalance theory, if that's the case don't even bother he or she will just lie to you again.
@@GCT1990 Jesus Christ, relax! You should take a deep breath.
@@GCT1990 There are plenty of people who've benefitted from medication so that alone is a lie. And there are neuroscientists who're doing brain scans to show the differences between someone with a regular healthy brain and those with mental illnesses. The brain is an organ like all other organs in your body. It can not function as smoothly sometimes and needs treatment. That said, if OP is the worst comment you've seen, I'd wager you're the one who's delusional and sheltered in her anti-mental illness bubble.
It's truly disheartening that in today's day and age, mental health is one of the things that still gets dismissed as a hoax and 'something that fixes itself along the way'. I wouldn't say that my family is exactly against the concept, but it's taken too lightly. The usual 'focus on other things and your lethargy and sadness will go away' is the staple for adults. But I don't completely blame them for it; their parents never gave importance to it, and so it was never taught to them either. But the problem arises when they themselves refuse to change or accept scientific proofs when their own children are clearly struggling. That's either hardcore ignorance or conscious denial.
But to everyone out there suffering from mental health issues, I pray that you get the help and support you need even if it isn't from your blood relatives. We are all in this together, and we'll get through it as well. Stay strong. :)
“Of course it’s all in your head, harry. But why should that make it any less real?”
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As someone who has dealt with "depression" their whole life (it's actually complex PTSD caused by my abusive NPD mother), and studied neurology and psychology, this is my theory on the cause (in the majority of cases).
While genetics plays a role it's not quite in the way people think. We get our genes from our parents so those are set for life, however the expression of those genes is regulated by their environment ie your lived experiences. The brain develops along roughly the same lives in everyone, we all have the same overall structure, but the details are shaped by our lives. As infants we have billions of connections that will atrophy as other connections are strengthened, forming the basis of our behaviours as we grow older.
The brain, like any organ, has an ideal environment in which it was evolved to function. For mammals this includes a period of nurture as we learn to be independent, this is essential to the correct formation of adult behaviours. This is the same in humans. If children are not made to feel safe, protected and nurtured as they grow then their brain will form connections which leads to "depression". This can also be seen in animals, for example "learned helplessness" in the famous Skinner Box experiment.
Anxiety comes from feeling like you have no control over your environment. If a child never knows how a parent will react to the same behaviours day to day - because the parent's mood effects their treatment of them - then they cannot form the ability to make decisions which will keep them safe. The child finds themselves in a state of chronic stress leading to increased cortisol levels which also affect to way pathways form in the brain.
Modern society also contributes in that our lifestyles are very different to those which we evolved to thrive in, we are stone-age brains living in a space-age civilisation. Overcrowding is known to cause anxiety in other mammals, it appears to be the same for us. Yet we lack the community that our ancestors had, we have no tribe to support us in the rearing of children.
We are mammals who think we can live without the things that mammals need because we have so much other "stuff". But none of it matters when your miserable.
Well said, im going to break the generational trauma, my childhood was filled with terrible things i spent so much time dealing with drug abuse and my mental health, terrible insecurity and fear of everything, Because im poor i had to find mental health resources and ways to fix myself and have spent years with just self help and ive made incredible progress, for me the holistic, mindfulness and spiritual path really worked well for me and though i still have plenty of hurdles and challenges i look at them with positivity and as things that will help me grow and not things i should fear. My faith in god also feels like a cheat code and helps me immensely though everyones path to self growth will be different. I wish you all the best and hope we as a society offer plenty of mental health resources as a free human right because most people will not be able to self help as i did. I guarentee mass shootings and suicides will drastically go down if we change our society and how we raise the next generations. I will mold my kids to have everything they need to prosper and instill in them the tools and strength to be independent and also the security that love and compassion of a parent provides.
I wish it meant something to be seen. Everyone around me either sees I'm depressed or I've told them, but being seen doesn't mean people care, and people avoid me these days more than they care. I hate being diseased, I've been depressed for over half my life now since adolescence. This is no way to live, yet somehow I'm supposed to find reasons to keep fighting. I hate this, it's cruel to have to live life like this with no treatment or end in sight.
Have you experienced no symptom relief, from antidepressants, or non-medical options?
Separate question: do you go through periods where you feel either: pretty optimistic and ready to make up for lost time, -or- agitated and high energy while still feeling depressed?
Also I’m sorry you’re going through this 😔❤️🩹
@@DannyD-lr5yg I have had periods of symptom relief lasting perhaps 1-3 months here and there over the years. Mostly these periods are in the spring and summer, my favorite seasons and when I'm able to get outside and enjoy the weather. I've had symptoms lessen in magnitude with medication but they've never gotten me to remission. I think of it as they help raise my baseline mood slightly to a neutral mood and they keep me from falling too deep down a dark valley of especially low moods. I've been on 3-4 different antidepressants trying a dose range for all of them. Typically they would work for a while to boost my mood and motivation, but they all seemed to diminish in effectiveness over time. I took a genetic test to get a better idea of what antidepressants I should respond best to, now I'm taking the tricyclic Nortriptyline 75mg/buproprion 150mg. They seem effective but it's the same as the rest, it keeps me at a baseline so I don't fall into a deep depression.
As far as non-medication treatments go, I've always had motivation problems to sustain things like routine meditation/mindfulness practice and workout regimens, plus I'm so busy with work and school it's hard to prioritize those things which feel more trivial. I eat pretty healthy and I live a pretty active lifestyle so that's not a big issue. I have been in therapy pretty consistently over the years but I didn't have a consistent therapist until the last 2 years or so, I have been so poor that I relied on free options like employee assistance programs through multiple jobs to get therapy, but EAPs usually do a free trial to cover like 3-6 sessions for free and I'd milk that however I can. Even over the last 2 years I've gotten my therapists and my psychiatrist as volunteers from a mental health outreach program operated out of a church in the city I live in/near. They're licenced professionals so it's not like it's compromised quality treatments or therapy and my psychiatrist has stayed consistent over the years and has also volunteered his services to me over the last couple years. They have been blessings to have in my life, I'm not religious but they are angels. But I'm unfortunately not out of the woods yet and in fact I'm adding a second therapist because I'm getting tired of this hopelessness and I really just want to die. As I said, this is no way to live, but I'm at least trying.
@@DannyD-lr5yg @Ma M I didn't respond to your second question. Yes to the first, I have had periods of optimism, but there's no making up for lost time. I'm just trying to get to a place everyone else seems to be at. And yeah everyone has their problems blah blah blah. I have a suspicion it's rare for someone to have mental health issues to the magnitude I've experienced. As for the agitation/motivation, not really. I felt that way in the second half of last year into this year but that's been the only time I've felt agitated/angry and using that as fuel for motivated action
@@DannyD-lr5yg thank you for your sympathy, it does help. I want to be recognized for the hell I've suffered through. I've been fighting this losing battle for 14 years and it's affected and infected every aspect of my life. Most everyone just want to ignore me or downplay my suffering as "everyone has their battles" but that feels insulting. I don't care if everyone has their battles, rarely do they has have to battle for the relative blessing of a 5/10 day for over half their lives give or take. Rarely do people get flash images of being shot through the head every single day. Rarely do they have an automatic reactionary tick in their brain constantly saying "I hate myself" "I'm disgusting" "I fuck everything up" "i want to die" "please kill me" I want my fucking recognition. This has been hard. So. Fucking. Hard. 😭😭😭
I've had depression in waves for my whole life, like a lot of people. As an adult I'm trying to build up an understanding of it as a bodily process, a necessary part of my body like breathing or weeping.
Our brains are incredibly adaptable, so adaptable in fact that we can actually become comfortable in incredibly shitty situations, because of physical neurons actually being created. To adapt to a new situation, it would be reasonable to expect that the brain would need to go through a physical change to get out of a toxic situation.
Depression feels a lot like dying because in a lot of ways, it IS dying. Your brain needs to reconfigure to get out of shitty situations and that process is going to be painful.
Self awareness of how your body and mind are affected by environmental factors is vital to all aspects of health, including mental.
Sleep
Diet
Social interactions
Work
Leisure
Stress
Etc etc
For me, the primary levers we're sleep and diet.
I give a cameo to learning acceptance, of myself and the world around me; To control and affect what I can, but accept and not worry about things I have little to no control over.
I also dumped nearly all social media. If I want to be social, we can talk over a meal, beer, or other activity I enjoy.
Resolved my bipolar and depression issues. Been off meds for over 15 years. Last bit I changed was the diet, which was the last piece of the puzzle. Not had any mental health issues, even minor, that I can recall for over 5 years since that change, and my lives been a rollercoaster the past 3 years now..
"It's not all in your head" is a great podcast
But that's a lie because it is all in your head (literally).
@@Mus4shi15Systems of oppression affect us all. Care must be holistic based on our lived experiences. For example, it didn't help when my doctor told me to get outside because there were regular stabbings and shootings on my street. What you can do to cope/heal depends on who you are, where you are, and what you're going through.
I resolved my bipolar and depression issues with dietary changes, and addressing my sleep apnea.
It was definitely not all in my head, though some of it was.
I'm a 27 years old man. My mind is in so much pain. 2 months ago, in an extremely distressing and painful emotional situation, I hit my head against the headboard of my bed. Now I have a minor cut on my forehead. People can't really notice it but I so much wish it fades away over time. It has impacted my self esteem quite negatively. All the time, I am conscious of myself. Every morning I wake up and get scared by seeing myself in the mirror. I repeatedly keep on asking myself questions like how could I do that to myself. But believe me, that moment was emotionally intensely suffocating and stressful for me. I wanted to scream alot to ease my pain that night but did not wish to disturb my parents.
@@user-pl1ki3ok6g Please talk to anyone you trust about this, your life has value, your discomforts have value, so do your pains and woes. Please, I repeat, please talk to someone trusted, maybe your parents, though please try to broach the subject softly with them -though they love you they still wouldn't fully understand it at first as you've had a longer time to think and rationalise the situation than them.
Please don't feel pressured by all this, just get the help you need so you can get your life back. Don't forget your loved
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As a neuroscientist who's career has been spent in understanding the biological basis of mental health issues, THANK YOU!!! More people need to hear this. The brain is part of the body. It's very complex and in comparison to other organ systems much remains to be understood about the brain, and this is a reason to be interested in exploring this and not a reason to write off health issues involving the brain.
History has shown that as we better understand the biological basis of mental health issues, the less stigmatized they become (and the more they end up in the area of Neurology, but that's a different issue). Alzheimer's and other dementias, Rett Syndrome, and Narcolepsy are just a few of many examples that spring to mind. Additionally stigma can impeded research in many ways, including preventing people from volunteering to participate in studies on mental health and limiting funding for research into these stigmatized areas of health.
Keep up the good work, and let me know if there’s anyway I can lend my expertise and experience in this field to your future coverage of mental healthcare.
I'm a 27 years old man. My mind is in so much pain. 2 months ago, in an extremely distressing and painful emotional situation, I hit my head against the headboard of my bed. Now I have a minor cut on my forehead. People can't really notice it but I so much wish it fades away over time. It has impacted my self esteem quite negatively. All the time, I am conscious of myself. Every morning I wake up and get scared by seeing myself in the mirror. I repeatedly keep on asking myself questions like how could I do that to myself. But believe me, that moment was emotionally intensely suffocating and stressful for me. I wanted to scream alot to ease my pain that night but did not wish to disturb my parents.
HCT, first time commenter. Long time subscriber. Medical student, OMS-IV. I’d love an in-depth look into mental health treatment (or lack there of) for health care professional at all levels. Stigma…current practice…data… anything you feel is important to address for both the public’s understanding and provider’s knowledge
Hi! We actually have treatment episodes in the works for mental health awareness month! -Tiffany
Mental problems were seen to be spiritual or metaphysical for so long that science is just now catching up with the study of our mental life and the organs involved to studies of the heart, bones, spleen etc.. This is just now converging with the availability or better tools to help this long neglected science. I hope the prejudice fades as new generations of people trained to understand this science and new generations of the public learn with the scientific community.
BTW I listened to the reproducibility crisis podcasts and I was impressed with the wide range and depth of the fields that were involved and were discussed over the series. Good Job!
3:13 - kudos to whoever snuck this clip into a video otherwise composed entirely of generic 3D medical illustrations and a [very handsome :] talking head!
I just started a new medication for anxiety and depression and casually mentioned it at work since coming on and off these medications have a few annoying symptoms (mostly nausea for me) but it shocked me when a couple people told me "I didn't need that crap" telling me it's no good for you, try meditation. I countered with I think I'll take advice from my doctor not you, not unkindly. and they came back with the doctors are the ones making money off this.
I was genuinly baffled. I'm not unawear of the conspiracy of doctors being pushed into overprescribing medications for profits, a serious issue no doubt. but to believe all anitdepresents are just pushed on people for monay and don't help at all? I worry about people who've gotten that far down teh rabbit hole. Meications work for some and not others (which is probably where the controversies in their effectiveness comes from) but I think it's pretty ignorant to say they're all crap.
I suppose all I'm really saying is, I wish people would be more open minded in understanding mental illness and how complicated it is to treat.
Great video. An excellent illustration of why using that phrase as a dismissal of mental health issues is not a good reaction.
This is great stuff. Can't wait to see the data in future videos
I'm a 27 years old man. My mind is in so much pain. 2 months ago, in an extremely distressing and painful emotional situation, I hit my head against the headboard of my bed. Now I have a minor cut on my forehead. People can't really notice it but I so much wish it fades away over time. It has impacted my self esteem quite negatively. All the time, I am conscious of myself. Every morning I wake up and get scared by seeing myself in the mirror. I repeatedly keep on asking myself questions like how could I do that to myself. But believe me, that moment was emotionally intensely suffocating and stressful for me. I wanted to scream alot to ease my pain that night but did not wish to disturb my parents.
Thanks bro 👍🏼
Thanks for your amazing content! It's very helpful!
If I could have one suggestion - the shirt you're wearing masks it tough to watch the video. CZcams makes the small pattern flash, at least on my screen.
Sounds balanced, reasonable, practical.
🎯I am so tired of hearing “it’s a chemical imbalance “
Why isn't it? Low mood for no reason sounds like an imbalance to me
I think accepting mental health is dictated by physical processes would threaten the idea of free will and/or a metaphysical basis for our consciousness, so people will resist regardless of evidence
Are we about to witness another leap forward in health care?
I have personally been witness to several very recent, including this mention of mental health, changes in institutional understanding and behavior towards mental health not in related healthcare fields. I know this may seem like confirmation bias or proximity bias but it feels like something is shifting culturally. I hope I'm right. I hope the approaches you mention will take us in a new direction of care and understanding. For if we take away the brain is there a mind?
Just last year, after 36 years of life, I finally discovered I have ADHD.
It's recontextualized so much about my life. I was never dismissive of psychological disorders anyway, but now that I've realized I have one myself it's just like...damn, I really get it now. I can't just willpower my way through stuff cuz my brain literally doesn't provide me with much willpower in the first place lol
I didn't get a diagnosis for ADHD until I was 40! Still trying to figure out how best to treat it, too.
I also discovered I had ADHD relatively recently, and it's made me re-contextualize a whole ton of memories about my life.
And my parents! I think they probably both have it too and growing up around them was a big part of why I was never diagnosed earlier. It seemed to me like what I now recognize as clear symptoms of ADHD was just how our family was.
How you get an ADD or ADHD diagnosis as an adult? I thought psychology professionals were only willing to diagnose it in children?
@@jliller I was already in therapy and made it a point to ask, that's all it took.
And if you think that's bad, try getting diagnosed with autism over the age of 30. When not in therapy. ._. I did it somehow but Would Not Recommend.
The physical/mental distinction is a poor way to understand stigma against mental health. A better distinction is the "DIY" vs "MD". If I have a small cut, I put on an adhesive bandage myself. That's DIY. Broken leg? Go to the hospital. That's MD. If I went around complaining about a small cut but refusing to do anything about it, people would understandably be dismissive of my predicament. Nobody stigmatized me when I broke my leg. Mental illness is easily misperceived as having a DIY solution by lay people who don't know any better. The solution is to explain to people that mental illness is not a DIY condition.
What if it's the DOCTOR who's gaslighting you? And what if your insurance (or lack thereof) prevents you from seeking help or finding another doctor?
I honestly get pissed when I hear that it’s all in my head. Someone seeking help probably shouldn’t hear that. We are aware it’s in our head. We are simply struggling to get help. Treading water and close to drowning. It’s overwhelming
I expect that there are 10 or more different conditions which get classified as depression, hence the hit and miss treatments. It seems naive to me also to assume they are all malfunctions, and that depression isn't sometimes normal healthy brain function and emotional responses to dysfunctional life situations that no one wants to acknowledge because they're near impossible to remedy.
It is all in your head, literally and figuratively.
i needed this today. thank you.
4:33 “Gazzlight” lol.
Could you, if you haven’t, cover psychiatric service dogs? Especially with how they may be trained to assist with things like C-PTSD and depression?
Been a long time since I've been normal, probably never, started my paramedic career a couple years before 9/11 and now COVID is trying to stay around and bookend my career.
I wish we'd go back to using Mental Illness for disorders and Mental Health for, well, healthy psychological states.
We're so focused on how our brain is working it seems like we pay little attention to the material conditions in a person's life.
Central to the issue is the mind-matter problem philosophers still can't agree on, let alone scientists.
Can you do one on modern electroconvulsive therapy? That's gaining popularity seems like
Very good
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The thing is, the business of psychiatry is to not care about the patients' health and keep treating them for problems they dont have! When you have some health problems you find out how irresponsible and cold hearted these professionals are and they use guards to chase hurting people out of the hospital, too!
I'm know there are lots of people able to live better, more functional lives thanks to chemistry. But I've also known several people who struggled with their prescribed meds - either when starting out or when they had to change meds after several years, for whatever reason. The experimental period of trying to figure what meds in what dose will actually effectively treat the problem(s) without undo side effects makes me really uneasy.
There's also the issue of collateral damage. I'm really good at what I do because I can remember a lot of things most people can't, and I notice little details most people don't. But those abilities come with drawbacks: I also remember things I'd rather forget and am troubled by things that I normal people are oblivious about. Any meds that would dull these issues would also dull my superpowers.
The stigma? The stigma begins with the psychiatrists themselves. They're the ones who do the stigmatizing.
It's awful I became mentally unwell because of a chronic herpes virus and nearly died bit hey ho I was mad for have being worried about a chronic incurable disease.
Well......Where else would it be?
Don't use the term "Gaslight." Tell people you are here to help them.
Psychedelics are very promising. 50 grams of fresh shrooms for what McKenna called a heroic dose, with an 8 to 12 hour intense experience one will be some time in processing, is very appealing. Some like microdosing, but that is not much for me. Somewhat beneficial, but nothing like a dose of 50 grams of fresh shrooms. I look forward to your upcoming videos. Thanks for what you do.
Lessen over time?! There is still stigma
Oh man I totally thought that this was a scishow episode based on the thumbnail.
40 years mentally ill I got stigma thousands of time
When your family are the biggest stigma carrying
Nobody actually cares though people just say they do for social media
That's true. I don't care. I just don't want to acknowledge your issues so I try to shift the blame onto your lack of personal character.
By saying it's all in your head. So you can cure yourself if you really want to.
People want to help, but they don't know how, or they don't understand what you're going through. Empathy is hard. It's much easier to make a few recommendations, get outside and exercise, or seek professional help, than to actually discuss and process your issues.
Besides, much of the problem is your environment or experiences. Not many people have the resources to change your environment or to help process your experiences. But you are always there for yourself, so change is most stable coming from within, even when aided by friends or professionals. It's not all in your head. I've had depression for 10+ years.
@@TreesPlease42 Noone gives a shit. Everyone has problems and their own degrees of depression. This is all bullshit. Life is hard get over it.
@@ALLAHDRINKSCUM Facts.
@@TreesPlease42Yup, i think creating a healthy worldview and triyng to reduce overthinking through various methods of meditation might be one of the better solutions. Also another thing that improves my mood pretty consistently is matcha tea, i think it's specifically the l-theanine wich appears to improve my mood.
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It is horrible
Your deliverance is in Jesus Christ! Listen to testimonies from people around the world and you will hear about horrific situations they have endured from suicide to hearing voices which are demonic etc. Hear they're testimonies on CZcams. May the Lord deliver you from the bandage of oppression depression anxiety that has plague you all of your life. May you experience his peace that will flood your entire being. May the Lord surround you in love and perfect peace that only comes from him alone.
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Yeah but all that training costs money.
I thought I had depression but after fixing my diet, sleep and excercise I realize our brains are also physical constructs. Meaning there is no mental component it is all physical we just think there is a mental component
"i, one person, had one experience. which means everyone else is just faking it for attention"
My biggest problem with the handling of depression, anxiety, etc. is that its viewed by patients, and sometimes doctors, as no different than a bacterial infection. Just take your pills and congratulations, you're fixed. But that was never their intended use -- they're symptom management while you, the individual, address the underlying concerns: be it stress, poor sleep habits, dietary problem, and more. If you've been on anti-depressants your whole life, or 10+ years, it isn't the drug that's failing.
They're called FEELINGS.... just because you're sad at the moment doesn't mean you're "depressed"... Sadly, everyone wants to be a victim or afflicted with some ailment.
Brain tumors are all in your head, at least you hope they haven't metastasized.
You will never know peace until you get back in your sand box
Dose anyone who has delt with all the things he was talking about cause you tell he never has smh how someone treat something they never had to deal with lmao what a joke
Glioblastoma.
It’s all in your head.
My ex did this to me at 16 he was spoon fed and went to a private school he had everything handed to him. Daniel.s He is now one of those people on instagram who says he supports peoples lives! It infuriates me, the absolute ignorance and hypocrisy! How much pain it caused me back then. To feel so invalidated by someone who claimed to love me. And he’s still ignorant today. Promoting himself as if he helps peoples lives! Whilst his sister is also depressed. And he ignores her like he did me and says it’s all in your head.
Be Careful of these Instagram influences they’re all fake as shit.
“Mental illness” is such a misleading, dishonest term for a video that attempts to be buddy-buddy with the viewer. Likening long periods of sadness and lowered mood to a sickness is just plain inaccurate and irresponsible.
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It seems wrong to reduce the mind to merely the brain. That reductionist argument seems to eliminate spirit, and clearly hasn't served us. While there are some physical sources for mental illness for sure, it seems like there's an untouched, broader, societal psyche that is ill and uncared for, and THAT is what is grossly sick.
I have had depression for more than 20 years. I've tried numerous medications and seen several therapists. Nothing has helped. Know why? There is nothing physically wrong with me. I am not ill. I am Awake.
We destroyed the planet through greed and pollution. Poisoned our water, deforested our land, eliminated thousands of species crucial to Earth's ecosystem. We won't be able to pollinate cropa soon. Let's not forget broader impacts of flooding, droughts, and severe, out of season storms and fires. We, at least in the US where I live, have a corrupt government that actively works to hurt its citizens rather than help them. Oh yes, there's also WWIII and nuclear annihilation from an old bloated egomaniac, egged on by American bloated egomaniacs, going on in Europe. And beyond that, I'm a slave to capitalism. I have a college degree and work a full time job, and can't afford to heat my crappy apartment. My generation is crippled by college debt, flat wages, no benefits; we can't afford to buy homes or start families; and robber baron oligarchs steal from us. Oh yes, and the fascists, who could forget the fascists? They want to kill me because I'm gay and non-Christian.
And you want to say depression and anxiety are due to chemical imbalances in my head? There is nothing wrong with my brain. The illness is not located there.
"Reach out to a health care professional, they want to help!" Get outta here. You offer no real solutions, no real aid, just an ugly judgment far, far out of reach for most of us. You're part of the problem.
There's a difference between having biological depression where your brain literally isn't functioning properly, and going through a depression due to troubling circumstances. If that's where you are, I'm sorry for that pain. But telling others that it's some con is disingenuous considering by your opinion, you don't have a mental illness, you're just going through a stressful time. So why are you here?
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Close to 300 million people(according to sources you can all find) have depression. How come the rest of the world's population are so lucky? ;) Well, I guess the rest of them decided to stop blaming something else but themselves.
Well at least it’s not the 1800’s. I mean clearly there’s a stigma in our head cuz we grew up in harsher society back then. Well I’d wish they put the same thought to mentally disabled people? Wait, isn’t that supposedly considered a mental health status? They actually don’t care about that? There’s also mentally disabled people in Africa who are starving.