Xero® C1 Pro Chronograph Comparison With MFJJ!!!

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  • čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
  • Break down and test of the new Garmin C1 Chronograph!!!!
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Komentáře • 76

  • @jacobspath4793
    @jacobspath4793 Před 8 měsíci +4

    I got mine last week. I've used it... it's amazing. It's cool putting it down range next to your target and seeing your impact speed. Worth the money for sure

  • @Majeskty
    @Majeskty Před 8 měsíci +2

    Nice video for the Xero C1 Pro using a Bow and arrow. Just one of the many options that can be used with this chronograph. I have been reloading for over 50 years, mostly pistol calibers and few rifle for deer hunting. I had been intrigued about using a chronograph instead of relying on the reloading manual for velocity of my reloads for many years. However, many just seemed to be somewhat of a hassle in setup and the potential of shooting the Chronograph. Newer technology made them look interesting like Lab Radar and another one (cannot remember the name but similar to LR). Then this came out and which will be a game changer because 1) Size 2) portability 3) ease of setup. Been looking at them since the first article back in October or November 2023 with many stores going out of stock as soon as they received their allotment. I finally pulled the plug earlier this week Jan 03, 2024 and received it yesterday ( 4 day shipping from Scheels). I will get out in a few days to put it through its paces for my pistol reloads and maybe take a rifle as well. Amazing product, wonder if others were caught asleep on this newer form of tech, but it does cost. Good luck!

  • @Fite234
    @Fite234 Před 8 měsíci +14

    This will be the undisputed chrono champion of the foreseeable future.

    • @Rikcey
      @Rikcey Před 8 měsíci +2

      I think you're right, seems accurate and is super convenient.

    • @Fite234
      @Fite234 Před 8 měsíci +4

      Everything about it but the price tag is amazing. Even the price is understandable when you use it across all of its platforms. Garmin just works, period.

    • @Rikcey
      @Rikcey Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@Fite234 I've had a lot of issues with my instinct sadly. But yeah, the price is steep but fair, given it's capabilities. Even on the rifle range it seems smart enough to only measure your own rounds.

    • @Fite234
      @Fite234 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @Rikcey sorry to hear that and hope they took care of you. The screen on my S62 got punctured. They had a new one out as soon as I sent mine in. I'm super curious to see this used down range. Down range speeds would be awesome to see.

    • @Rikcey
      @Rikcey Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@Fite234 there's definitely merit to knowing. I'm curious what the difference in energy loss is between heavy and light-ish arrows at about 50 meters is. Which is kinda risky with the old chronographs.

  • @mmoatsy
    @mmoatsy Před 8 měsíci +2

    Seems like a guy could mount it to the end of a stabilizer for a very consistent distance from arrow with each shot. I think there was an old chrono that could do that back in the day, but it was inconsistent due to tech. Thanks for the content!

  • @ericduncan3864
    @ericduncan3864 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Garmin definitely has outdoor electronics figured out. This looks like a solid addition to their other offerings.

  • @schrrobert
    @schrrobert Před 8 měsíci +8

    For a direct comparison of every shot would it work to place the Garmin directly in front of and just below the other shoot-through chronograph? Then you might be able to have two readings of every single shot in comparing results between the two units?

  • @michaelmangino9819
    @michaelmangino9819 Před 8 měsíci

    I just bought that same new bow. I don't blame you for loving on it!💙🎯

  • @johnjordan9945
    @johnjordan9945 Před 8 měsíci +5

    Love it.
    Any reason why the Lift 29 Video got taken down?

  • @douglasscholl4681
    @douglasscholl4681 Před 8 měsíci

    I've been waiting for your review. Can't wait to see what other down range testing you do.

  • @AtotheK17
    @AtotheK17 Před 8 měsíci +2

    It would be cool if that could connect to the garmin xero, so you input arrow weight etc and it figures out your pins automatically.

    • @mgrundy
      @mgrundy Před 8 měsíci

      man, gotta hope that's in the works.

  • @Aldocello1
    @Aldocello1 Před 8 měsíci

    Good to see THE BOW CHANNEL on CZcams doing a review on this , It has blown up the shooting world , pretty much ending the Labradar , Im a long range shooter , pistol and PRS guy and its phenomenal , but I am also a bow guy , several Mathews , and this thing works great , no clamp needed like for the LR , they cant make these fast enough

  • @user-mv4ri9qe8g
    @user-mv4ri9qe8g Před 2 měsíci

    Great info! Thanks

  • @steve8828
    @steve8828 Před 8 měsíci

    Garmin simply works. I know that because I have used the A1i bow sight for 6 years. Flawless.

  • @JamesBond-oc4gm
    @JamesBond-oc4gm Před 8 měsíci +6

    A bit pricey for the regular guy, but it is nice.
    What happened to the lift build video?

    • @bigz5262
      @bigz5262 Před 8 měsíci +2

      It had no audio. Hopefully he still has a copy with audio

    • @JamesBond-oc4gm
      @JamesBond-oc4gm Před 8 měsíci

      @@bigz5262 ahhh ty sir 👍

  • @DavidBowCrazyBabyak86
    @DavidBowCrazyBabyak86 Před 8 měsíci

    I definitely like it but just being somebody that's at home. I don't know how soon I'll be getting one. I definitely would like to have one, but we'll see. Thanks for the video. Definitely like that as always

  • @zacchurch502
    @zacchurch502 Před 8 měsíci

    Without a doubt that is going to be handy as hell. It's up there on price but sweet for sure.

  • @toddparsons2980
    @toddparsons2980 Před 4 měsíci

    Good to know.

  • @IVIaster801
    @IVIaster801 Před 6 měsíci

    Would’ve been interesting to see if you set the garmin in front of the other chronograph and compared speeds on the same shot

  • @cmoslof
    @cmoslof Před 8 měsíci +3

    The size and how it is always actively reading is a nice feature. But the Labradar can measure at your current location and down range up to 100 yards. I've used it with my bow to track the velocity from 0-100 yards. Could be something to use to compare the effect of fletchings or broadheads downrange on speed. The problem with the labradar is you have to buy a separate tool to trigger it to detect the shot. I use the JKL recoil trigger. It has a magnet I attach to the weights on my stabilizer.

    • @alexmlawsky4170
      @alexmlawsky4170 Před 8 měsíci +1

      I’ve never thought about using the trigger on the bow, just on my rifles… do you get good results using it? I always thought I might have to use the LabRadar bow add-on device/attachment.

    • @cmoslof
      @cmoslof Před 8 měsíci +2

      It works great. I just use the magnet but you could velcro it as well. I don't remember it ever dropping a shot.

  • @TangoOne
    @TangoOne Před 8 měsíci

    Pretty incredible piece of equipment

  • @ericgrant8783
    @ericgrant8783 Před 8 měsíci

    Sweet, going to have to order one

  • @JoeOttPhotography
    @JoeOttPhotography Před 8 měsíci

    Can't wait to see some "down range" speed tests

  • @MrChiumiento
    @MrChiumiento Před 7 měsíci

    I have not seen you to continue to use the Garmin going forward like you said. I been dying to see this thing work with all lengths.

  • @DIYSportsman
    @DIYSportsman Před 8 měsíci +2

    Could you clarify/confirm that it actually displays downrange velocities like a LabRadar? Most of the marketing material and reviews I've seen on gun channels just show point blank velocities so they can read their ES and SD measurements across a group. Being able to actually read the downrange speeds (vs physically having to set it up downrange like you can do with any light-based chrono) would be pretty important for a doppler device.

    • @Juliang61
      @Juliang61 Před 8 měsíci +1

      it doesn't do downrange. However, it's super reliable, small and perfect for most people in the gun world where BC is already known

    • @DIYSportsman
      @DIYSportsman Před 8 měsíci +1

      ​@Juliang61 Yea, I could see how reliability and simplicity is huge for guys doing load development on a bench. The Hornady crew did a deep dive showing how actuals vary from posted BC based on how different a bullet profile is from the standard curves, but that's a bit out of my wheelhouse. As an archer, it seems like a prochrono could give me the same info, albeit less efficiently and worse form factor, lighting issues etc. But $599 vs ~$130... Garmin mentioned needing more free space before the target, but clearly here MFJJ showed it works in a small shop. With labadar you could go straight to long range and quickly evaluate velocity decay of different vane profiles, arrow weights etc vs moving it around and building a data grid. I have to imagine Garmin will implement that in their app down the road, seeing as the device should be collecting the data already.

  • @hossfox30
    @hossfox30 Před 8 měsíci

    Garmin does such a great job with most of their products. I wish the price tag was a bit lower.

  • @darrind8697
    @darrind8697 Před 8 měsíci

    That looks like a cool piece of kit .

  • @bullitkatcher
    @bullitkatcher Před 8 měsíci

    I may be late, but something like this has been used in paintballing for a long time. It's called a virtue clock and costs about a third

  • @jasonard7227
    @jasonard7227 Před 8 měsíci

    I think I want one lol but will have to wait till after I get the new lift..thx for showing us

  • @robertwilliamson6958
    @robertwilliamson6958 Před 8 měsíci

    This would be killer for a guy like me that wants to use a chrono for bows, modern firearms, traditional muzzleloaders (buddy of mine lives em) and I even have a pump pellet gun I rebuilt the internals of specifically for power I’m curious about just for s&g’s If I buy a chrono.

  • @zackofalltrades510
    @zackofalltrades510 Před 8 měsíci

    Only chrono I will use now!!

  • @perryknetter8577
    @perryknetter8577 Před 8 měsíci

    I like it Garmin make pretty good products

  • @josephr1198
    @josephr1198 Před 8 měsíci

    Really wish it would do downrange speed like the lab radar

  • @captureoutdoormedia
    @captureoutdoormedia Před 6 měsíci

    Will be getting one very soon

  • @flyknotrancher4158
    @flyknotrancher4158 Před 6 měsíci

    Would you spend it if it was just for your own Bow (meaning just the home bow shop), or get the less expensive Chronograph - the difference is between building a complete set of RIP SS V1 with some to spare.

  • @dylanhoude1091
    @dylanhoude1091 Před 8 měsíci

    Interesting vid pretty cool 👍

  • @ImperiousArchery
    @ImperiousArchery Před 8 měsíci

    We love ours!..
    but what happened to that video premier the other day?…

  • @wingman327
    @wingman327 Před 8 měsíci

    Very cool!

  • @nicholaswarwick9580
    @nicholaswarwick9580 Před 8 měsíci

    I definitely need one

    • @Liam-ql7tr
      @Liam-ql7tr Před 8 měsíci

      Look at FX chrono. they have a 2-3 radar ones

  • @goldtip34
    @goldtip34 Před 8 měsíci

    Pretty slick

  • @claywynn4507
    @claywynn4507 Před 3 měsíci

    How well does it work for measuring pistol bullet performance using pistols?

  • @ghaugsness
    @ghaugsness Před 8 měsíci

    I've been looking at this but price tag had me a little gun shy on it.

  • @Farmersforever1993
    @Farmersforever1993 Před 8 měsíci

    The idea is to not gave to use a big triangle and have the correct lighting.

  • @Oleman72
    @Oleman72 Před 8 měsíci

    Really cool I might need one 😂

  • @chrisennis1915
    @chrisennis1915 Před 8 měsíci

    That string angle is money for you, totally off topic. Given the size, what it does… no brainer to go garmin

  • @Arrowhacked
    @Arrowhacked Před 8 měsíci

    Whatever happened with the video of the bow build that premiered Monday?

  • @6saturdaysaweek
    @6saturdaysaweek Před 8 měsíci

    I’d trust the radar over the chronograph. Chronographs are to fickle to completely trust them.

  • @savelinkralev4204
    @savelinkralev4204 Před 8 měsíci

    Can you do a comparison test between Xero C1 Pro to Labrador

  • @sofasquirrel
    @sofasquirrel Před 8 měsíci

    I neeeeeeeeed that..........

  • @brianlew9559
    @brianlew9559 Před 8 měsíci

    Thus endith the age of big honking chronographs.

  • @falkmachtsachen
    @falkmachtsachen Před 8 měsíci +1

    I'll stick to my FX airguns chrono.

    • @chrisfranke1759
      @chrisfranke1759 Před 8 měsíci +1

      How well does the fx one work for archery? I was looking at it, I particularly like the stabilizer mount option

    • @falkmachtsachen
      @falkmachtsachen Před 8 měsíci

      @@chrisfranke1759 You can use the included barrel mount. But it's totally sufficient to place it beneath your bow on a gorilla pod. Most of the time i'll just ask some one to hold it. The results change for 1-2 fps at max with 1m distance to your axis. Detectionrate with 100grs tips is >99%. Problem is rather that it detects not only your arrows. FX stopped including the floorplate with 1/4" tripod thread, but there are STL on thingiverse and it is a 10 minute print. I did use a magic arm blog.falkduebbert.com/images/510.jpg but it was totally unnecessary.

  • @fishead6384
    @fishead6384 Před 8 měsíci

    Looks like it would be real handy. Are you gonna try and re upload the Mathews 29.5 build that didn’t upload the other day?

    • @davefisher5196
      @davefisher5196 Před 8 měsíci

      I wouldn’t think so. As just installing the loop/sight/rest. Not a big deal

    • @fishead6384
      @fishead6384 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@davefisher5196 yeah it’s not a big deal but it’s more podium archer content I was looking forward to

  • @chadeastman4832
    @chadeastman4832 Před 8 měsíci

    Definitely cool just wish was a little cheaper lol

  • @roccomanucci
    @roccomanucci Před 8 měsíci

    I want one

  • @josephr1198
    @josephr1198 Před 8 měsíci

    MFJJ make a bow mount for it

  • @cjr4497
    @cjr4497 Před měsícem

    Just get a lab radar and be done with it. I have seen chrono's be as much as 12 fps off!

  • @Liam-ql7tr
    @Liam-ql7tr Před 8 měsíci

    nice gear but $600 to high.

  • @kevinszoke4117
    @kevinszoke4117 Před 8 měsíci

    MFJJ could review dog poop and I woulld still watch it.