Beat It: Was Jeff Porcaro a Genius?

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Komentáře • 33

  • @guus007
    @guus007 Před 8 měsíci +18

    There is no need to ask yourself the question ‘if Jeff Porcaro was a genius’. The answer is obvious. Jeff is one of the drummers that I highly admire.

    • @miker5233
      @miker5233 Před 8 měsíci

      Jeff came out of the seventies with all the other drummers

    • @guus007
      @guus007 Před 8 měsíci

      He was dominant in the eighties though where he was a session musician for many many people and bands.

    • @Leddrums
      @Leddrums Před 5 měsíci

      Ditto

  • @rickg.3571
    @rickg.3571 Před 7 měsíci +9

    Better said "Most iconic drummer ever?" Yes, one of the best studio drummers ever recorded. From Steve Lukather in MusicRadar, how Jeff Porcaro created his iconic drum track in Michael Jackson's "Beat It". "[It was] was two 24 tape machines back in the day, after we were able discover, you could get more than 24 track with one machine, they were able to sync up two 24 track machines that would give you 48 tracks," explains Lukather. "Actually 46 because track 24 on both machines would have a SMPTE code which I believe is a permutation of a 60 cycle thing that would lock the machines.
    "Like anything like that, if you cut that it will not lock up," continued Lukather. So what happened was, Ed (Van Halen) didn't want to play through the section that they wanted him to so he cut the tape and played the part that's now the record. So what happened is he sent that back to Quincy Jones and it wouldn't sync up. So you had Eddie's first generation [take] and Michael's first-generation vocals and the SMPTE code. And the only thing else that was on the track was Michael hitting a trap [flight] case on [the] two and leakage through four of five takes of Michael's vocals through the headphones where you could hear what the track was.
    Quincy said, 'I don't want to do Michael's vocals again, I don't want to transfer them - I want to keep it first generation [with] Eddie's solo on this - you've got to make it work'
    "So Quincy called me, Jeff Porcaro and an engineer called Humberto Gatica to go to Sunset Sound [LA studio] and fix the track. He said, '… I don't want to do Michael's vocals again, I don't want to transfer them - I want to keep it first generation [with] Eddie's solo on this - you've got to make it work."
    "So me and Jeff went down there and Jeff, the musician that he was, he goes, 'I'm gonna go out and I want you to crank Michael's vocal [bleed] so I can hear the two and four.' And he went out there with two drumsticks and a mic, and he made his own classic Jeff [clicktrack] that he would do with drumsticks - he was the best. He got that together… so of course he goes out and it could have been the first, no more than the second take and he was done (recording the drum track). He goes, 'You're up.'" Iconic? Indeed :)

  • @miker5233
    @miker5233 Před 8 měsíci +6

    I tell you you're a really good drummer even a better teacher and not everybody can teach

  • @dondeluze8424
    @dondeluze8424 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Love your humor. And also that you're a very instructive and talented drummer. You remind me of my drum teacher from years ago. Keep up the good work.

  • @SeaMark782
    @SeaMark782 Před 3 měsíci

    Just found the channel, very cool, I'm percussion centric.
    Could be my age, but it sure makes me smile and remember my old school because my schoolmates were the Porcaro bros. and Steve Lukather.
    50 years ago this month I saw Jeff play one of his first gigs with Steely Dan, I should say 2 nights, it was a weekend with SD.
    We hung out with Jeff and the Dan, they played 2 sets both nights. Jeff made sure to introduce us to everyone. We're with the drummer!
    Pretty heady stuff for a bunch of 18 yo kids from North Hollywood, it was fantastic.
    Watching Jeff play with your favorite band, were we lucky SOBs or what?!

  • @grahamsalmons2027
    @grahamsalmons2027 Před 8 měsíci +1

    There are so few channels pitched at this level, I’m so pleased to have found it.

  • @charlesbrown0413
    @charlesbrown0413 Před 8 měsíci +1

    You're awesome!! Lots of information, skill...and FUN!!

  • @raulortega8808
    @raulortega8808 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I love your videos and your English accent.😍

  • @brianhotaling5849
    @brianhotaling5849 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Check out his work on the SILK DEGREES album

  • @ramilopez6921
    @ramilopez6921 Před 3 měsíci

    Could you show me how to play the Ringo shuffle? What he plays in the song "Help!" among others. Thank you

  • @GraemeChartDrumTeacher
    @GraemeChartDrumTeacher Před 8 měsíci

    Check out the biography about him…. Very interesting

  • @synthesizers
    @synthesizers Před 8 měsíci +2

    I’m super distracted by the weird angle of your 12 (?) tom! ;)

    • @DrummerDanVa
      @DrummerDanVa Před 8 měsíci

      Can't say I was distracted but I noticed it right away. The beauty of drums is there is no RIGHT way to setup or play. Everyone hopefully finds what works for them.

  • @redeemedrhytms
    @redeemedrhytms Před 8 měsíci +1

    In terms of groove, I will pick Jeff Porcaro over Steve Gadd or any drummer. Steve Gadd and others has a lot of chops obviously but Jeff’s groove is deeper.

    • @DrummerDanVa
      @DrummerDanVa Před 8 měsíci +1

      I can agree but it depends on the music. Gadd was brought in on Aja because Fagan and Becker knew their normal stable of drummers couldn't create the fill excitement on that song.

    • @redeemedrhytms
      @redeemedrhytms Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@DrummerDanVa i agree. but If you notice, that is the only song of Steely Dan that Steve Gadd was appreciated in all steely songs. When you think of it, Jeff was their primary drummer. Even Chuck Raine told that Jeff was the go to guy drummer of the Steely dan.
      But I love Steve Gadd, He is so great.

  • @theCountOfTotal
    @theCountOfTotal Před 8 měsíci +1

    I don’t want to be an annoying wise ass, but didn’t Jonathan Muffet play on the studio version of Beat it?
    Beside that: nice vid, keep up the good work!

    • @knutgrindhaug6196
      @knutgrindhaug6196 Před 8 měsíci +5

      Nope, he did not, Jeff Porcaro played this tune together with mainly all TOTO guys. You can say the tune is TOTO with Michael Jackson on vocals and Eddie VanHalen on guest guitar............ LOL

    • @theCountOfTotal
      @theCountOfTotal Před 8 měsíci

      @@knutgrindhaug6196 I am now a little bit wiser. Thanks for straightening that out!

    • @TheCure508
      @TheCure508 Před 8 měsíci +1

      ​@@knutgrindhaug6196Eddie Van Halen Solo ☝️ Steve Lukather Bass and Rhythmen Guitar 💪😁

    • @eskiltester3913
      @eskiltester3913 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Jonathan never played on any album of Michael.
      He did for the jackosns.
      Jonathan played live with Michael

  • @sigmaman721
    @sigmaman721 Před 6 měsíci

    You're brilliant but I'd suggest playing with the oryginal track some 30sec at the beginning of the video

    • @sionsollis
      @sionsollis Před 6 měsíci

      We don't do that to avoid getting copyright claims. 😌

  • @chatchaat
    @chatchaat Před 8 měsíci

    The whole album is drum machine

    • @jukesjointOG
      @jukesjointOG Před 8 měsíci +1

      Actually, No. But Bruce Swedien recorded in such a way that you think that.

    • @eskiltester3913
      @eskiltester3913 Před 6 měsíci

      That's just not true.

    • @jukesjointOG
      @jukesjointOG Před 6 měsíci

      @@eskiltester3913 What’s not true?

    • @eskiltester3913
      @eskiltester3913 Před 6 měsíci

      @@jukesjointOG that the whole album is a drum machine.

    • @jukesjointOG
      @jukesjointOG Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@eskiltester3913Then we are in complete agreement!