Surprising Finds from Rome's New Subway
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- čas přidán 15. 05. 2024
- The construction of Rome's new Metro Line C is uncovering ancient artifacts by the tens of thousands. Some of these took archaeologists by surprise...
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Doing any construction in Rome must be a nightmare. Every shovel is full of history.
Yeah, I mean that’s literally what’s discussed in the video, dude..
Repitition doesn't diminish that amazing fact. @0_1_2
Technically speaking every shovel of dirt from any soil is “full of history”
You said it. We go there two times every year. Been there 33 times now. NJ
You mean a miracle! 🤩
I love that they displayed the artifacts in the metro station. Great way to modernize the city while respecting the past.
It's not that original, Athens has it since the late '90s
@@antoniousai1989 She never said it was original.
Yes, very cool!
@@antoniousai1989 Even better that a good idea is widespread!
I remember a history professor in the 70s telling us about how hard it was to build a subway in Rome. It was the same story, they kept hiding ancient stuff.
Wow! That has to be the most academically stimulating underground metro station in the world haha! My wife, an archaeologist herself here in Australia, did the very same type of work here in Melbourne. Great care needed to be taken every square foot. For us here, it was a big deal as they pinned down the home of the founder of the city when a new metro station was built. But the contrast in age always tickles her. The best she can hope for is material from the last decade of the 18th century haha. When in Rome, good lord!
Edit: One of my go to channels. I'm a PhD myself and it's super hard to find documentaries or channels online anywhere that do the past justice. It's infuriating. Audiences deserve more and you deliver. Good on you Doc, keep it up.
I was in Rome last February, and visited the forum. The clash between the ancient ruins and the Line C construction was... something else.
Thats whats cool about Rome. Different layers of history can be seen. Literally as they were buried by the sands of time, then discovered again
wow, the artifacts on display in the metro are insanely cool
What a great idea for a museum too
It's extraordinary how much work goes into simple construction. In Rome (and other ancient cities) you have to essentially be an archeologist.
Mexico City had similar problems when building the Metro. They, too, placed artifacts in the stations. It’s wonderful. And a very well thought out system to get around the city.
New Zealander here!
What an *incredible* city Rome is!
Such HUGE expanses of ancient history, waiting to be dug up with every digger-bucket-full!
New Zealand is such a young country and I'm hugely envious of the ancient culture of Rome and Italy! Greece too!
The other two toldinstone channels should have way more subscribers
Rome is just an amazing city. I was there some years ago and it's almost overwhelming with the history all around. You walk through it, over it, under it. I realize that residents, going about their day to day business can't be constantly gaping at what is all around them every day, but what a fascinating and wonderful place to be.
Beautiful subway station with such an amazing museum! Rome is so full of history and art it’s hard to build modern things but this is very well done!
if you happen to travel to Rome next year (we don't know the exact opening dates yet sadly, but they'll be available as the stations get closer to completion, they'll open probably around next summer if i had to guess), you'll be able to visit the two new stations of Fori Imperiali (which crosses with line B) and Porta Metronia. Both these stations, aswell as the future Venezia station will be, like San Giovanni, museum-stations and you'll be able to see all their findings for free on the ground level and only paying a ticket fare's worth for everything beyond that.
I guess building in Rome is an nightmare. You dig a hole and something ancient appears stalling your project. Happens in Cologne too.
This is at so many places in Europe. There are regions where archaelogists show up in spring to search the freshly ploughed fields, and pull out artefacts that have floated to the top.
Fascinating! And I really enjoy your more relaxed narration. It gives me a better idea of what a tour with you would be like! ❤
Great stuff. Love these vids. Keep ‘em coming!
Marvelous video. Thank you!
What a cool way to decorate the station with artifacts found during excavation.
The train station is more like a museum, I will probably be stuck in the station for more than half a day.. 😂👍
Thank you for your videos. As a historian i really do appreciate them.
Compared to the torrent of crap churned out by the perpetual outrage machine which the interweb has become this was a lovely, uplifting, light and interesting change. Thanks!
This channel is dropping bangers. The subjects are so original.
Fantastic project, an even more fantastic findings. Thank you for sharing.
That must have been an absolutely euphoric trip. Thanks for sharing.
I think some some sort of slim sky rail would be much better for Rome at this point. But in saying that, all the amazing discoveries wouldn't be happening today without all these works going on. Displaying the finds within the station is a wonderful idea too. Respect to history right there! Thanks Darius for what you do!
The Greeks ran into this problem also. The solutions are amazing.
Very cool to have a museum of found artifacts integrated into the subway station
I came i saw i sat ..
Hell yes. I needed this kind of information right now.
I wonder how often city officials go “we just need some municipal improvements, can we PLEASE stop finding artifacts?! 😂
It’s so wonderful to see a modern culture doing what should be done. Another reason to love the Italians. Further, I really enjoyed this update by you. More please.
Amazing., Thanks for this.
awesome! thank you for sharing!
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The peach orchard portion was great. Can you recommend any literature on gardening and farming in the ancient world?
I haven't read it myself but there's a book called "The Roman Book of Gardening" by John Henderson that has the commentary of several Roman authors on gardening. I might go get it now though, the peach orchard find really captured my imagination.
@@theeccentrictripper3863 thanks for the recommendation, I’ll check it out!
Something approximately alike happened in Santiago of Chile, when the Plaza de Armas station was built. That's in the very heart of the city since it was founded by the Spanish (1541), but it had been already populated by the Mapuche people for many centuries, and at the time the zone was part of the Inca Empire.
This is amazing.
Nice of you, thanks.
Wow, that’s very interesting!
I hope to make it back to Rome again!
There in 75, & again in 90.
I’ll have to take Line C!
Thanks for sharing!
Arridet servo tuo!
That's a metro station I'd love to be stuck waiting in.
Amazing! I’ve visited Rome but never ventured into the subway. Now, I don’t need to :).
My wife and I were there in 2012. The Atheneum of Hadrian had just been uncovered but as of yet not publicly announced. Sadly, it was all walled at the time.
It would have been nice if more of the recording had been dedicated to the artifacts that were found. with the exception of the last ones, the rest were panned over quickly....
I'm thinking how awesome all these ancient artifacts and structures, but I don't live there. It must be frustrating for the locals
Thx
I expect there's a lot of great sandwiches!
TY for your well narrated video but one suggestion. Is it possible to slow your panning of at least some of incredible artifacts so one can freeze the screen to enjoy the detail of these ancient artifacts? I would have loved to better seethe detail and artistry of at least some of the reliefs you went by.
Amazing finds and great video!
Anyone know if those buried clay pipes were used for irrigation directly through seepage or just to transport the water to the orchard?
AFAIK They used the pipes for transportation only. Although even the ancient Sumerians knew the importance of crop rotation, I've never seen anything that indicated that any of them were concerned about soil erosion or water conservation in farming.
@@trent374 When you're growing an orchard you can't really rotate crops can you? I'm no horticulturist by any stretch of the imagination but it seems like it's a totally different kettle of fish, perhaps someone can elaborate on it either way.
@@theeccentrictripper3863 Don't sell yourself short on your amazing horticultural knowledge. It takes an absolute genius like yourself to know that crop rotation is not used with trees.
Thank you. It’s neat to see a small window into the ordinary history of something like the Roman Empire. I wonder if the residents tire of regularly hearing stories about new finds? I come from Arizona where we “know” how to handle irreplaceable archaeological sites/information: we spend decades in court suing to stop the construction…lose, then spend years excavating the sites (that’s where I came in), then we pave it over. Ta-da…a new freeway.
Theres a similar station in Budapest except the relics are plaster copies. Real ones are at the Aquincum museum.
that peach (or apricot-what's the diference?) farm is very surprising because of the etymology of apricot
damn my subway only sells sad sandwiches
Very intresting
Anybody else feel kinda weird having a monument to a King of Italy on the Capitoline Hill? Just me?
I had no idea the peach was an exotic fruit, nor that they started growing them in Italy themselves, gotta love Toldinstone for neat little factoids like that
I hear a good amount of Italians don’t like the monument and not worth their time to visit
@@Anngrl69 I wouldn't imagine so, of all the places to have pro-monarchist sentiment Italy would be the last I'd gamble on. I figure it's still worthwhile, but it would've made more thematic sense to put it on the Palatine Hill.
@@Anngrl69alcune sculture di questo monumento sono capolavori!
Yes, it can happens here in Italy; every damned time we try to create a new metro, a new building, a new road… So they need to stop the works, call the Archaeological Superintendence, let them do their job, understand if the must change the project or if they can continue with the original project, restart to work, find some new archeological discovery, stop the works, call the Archaeological Superintendence, let them do their job, understand if the must change the project or if they can continue with the original project, restart to work, find some new archeological discovery, stop the works, call the Archaeological Superintendence, let them do their job, understand if the must change the project or if they can continue with the original project, restart to work, find some new archeological discovery, stop the works, call the Archaeological Superintendence, let them do their job, understand if the must change the project or if they can continue with the original project, restart to work, find some new archeological discovery […] stop the works, call the Archaeological Superintendence, let them do their job, understand if the must change the project or if they can continue with the original project, restart to work, find some new archeological discovery, stop the works, call the Archaeological Superintendence, let them do their job, understand if the must change the project or if they can continue with the original project, restart to work, find some new archeological discovery, stop the works, call the Archaeological Superintendence, let them do their job, understand if the must change the project or if they can continue with the original project, restart to work, find some new archeological discovery and so on. It is the prive we have to pay living in the Ancient Rome land.
but what happens if they find another new archeological discovery? 😂
Thank you for your sacrifice lol, all of Antiquity and all posterity thanks you as well.
😂
Similar to Barcelona, which was originally a Roman city. A whole city is underground.
Rome: We're going to display these gorgeous and priceless handmade artifacts in the starkest most shit ugly post-modern transit station you can imagine.
I feel sorry for the one assigned to be responsible for planning the subway, for the excavators, and for everyone else.
Makes me glad to be in the US, here nearly all the history that's happened that one could actually dig up was the product of our shenanigans; the natives didn't leave much in the way of stuff to actively search for, let alone randomly bump into whilst digging a tunnel.
@@theeccentrictripper3863just think, in 2000 years they will say "We found another pile of rust and concrete dust, what should we do?"...
@@theeccentrictripper3863 It's much rarer, but it is AT LEAST as big of an issue when native artifacts or remains are found while building in the U.S.
@@WilliamSanderson-zh9dq Well sure, I never suggested otherwise, nobody wants to just grind up artifacts to build a road, we just don't encounter it much.
@@sneeringimperialist6667 More like think of all the work stoppage there will be over finding a plastic spork lol, the things we will value in the future will be just as silly as the billionth Roman oil lamp, or their limitless supply of base metal coins. Some goofball will collect pennies, if they survive the test of time.
And London construction companies think THEY have it bad...😂
Why did you walk through the artifacts so quickly, I couldn't focus on a dang thing
"Media età imperiale" on the wall around 4'30"... does it tell you which layers of Roman history you're passing through as you're on the down escalator there?
Where can we see this? Do we need to enter a specific subway station?
Yes, the San Giovanni metro station
What's the stuff in the liquid containers?
Seeds and pollen
You don't have to visit a museum in Rome.
Just go into the subway stations 😊
Or walk the streets
How long before the subway is destroyed by massive earthquakes and hot lava? I say hot lava is more likely.
Didn't expect Mario to suddenly show 6:23
But then again...it's about farming peaches
You’re standing on the wedding cake !
The solution could have been several tram or light rail lines, but the construction of underground subways lends itself more to theft and state corruption.
it was already building when I visited in 2013 xD
The worst thing about Rome is the drivers of cars it's a scary experience to cross the road.
Why doesn't the authorities in Rome pedestrianize most of the old city between 8am and 8pm where deliveries can deliver between 20:00 and 08:00. With only emergency vehicles allowed on this streets
Like what happens in most Northern European cities ie Stockholm.
Then they could put trams on the roads to move large amounts of people between Termini and old areas of Rome without having to dig it up.
Saving lots of time and money while giving most people exactly what they want which would be both good for tourists and businesses.
This is both a blessing and a curse. Rome stands on soil immensly rich in History, but that's very inconvenient for modern infrastructure... Now, walking up a station as the same plays actors used to walk up to the stage if one of the world's most important venue 2000 years ago is something you just acnnot experience anywhere else.
aaaaaahhhh the image from the video cover is not in the video? 💔
You see it from the side. That case displays all the different kinds of pollen and nuts they discovered.
That had to cost a fortune to have that displayed down there and to excavate it whos paying for that?
Where are the pits?
Bene! Optimum est!
*The Metro Line C was meant to start in 2000* ------------ but actually started in 2007 ------------ *Now I understand why --- 'Rome wasn't built in a Day'*
Victor Emmanuel I, he loved a parade
I think they just have to build the station inside the original structures 😂maybe not the best station designs out there but as long as the tunnels and platforms are way under the sites maybe the entrances, gates and hallways will fit into some of these boxes and make them something that can be enjoyed during a mundane trip
They finally are replacing the original line from 100 AD that was pulled by Roman slaves and putting in electric trains instead? I will miss the Caesar line that ran from Porta Capeta to Esquilline Hill. The conductor Gaheris Corvinus was always good for a laugh. 😂
I call this the curse of history, or the burden of history. It is interesting to the parallel of approaches. during the Maoist-era of mainland China, inspired by the Soviet/Eastern bloc's urban planning, many of Beijing and much of northern China's city walls, hutongs, and siheyuans, were simply demolished to be set aside for contemporary infrastructures, with little regards to the priceless historical artifacts that many hold. But only with these methods mainland China's was able to swung back to the forefront of the world's economy. (Although the current government have somewhat reversed this policy, intending to protect these instead, to strengthen the usage, and availabilities of culture repertoire.) The trend is similar in the rest of East Asia, where many historical properties were re-appropriated for new amenities, although Japan's surface-level historical properties (that was less durable than a thickly-compacted northern Chinese's city walls) was considerably destroyed post-war.
Rome is presented with a similar sorts of dilemma. Do they prioritize on conserving the artifacts, or to have an administrative region that can reliably hold the number of tourists that come to see the things that Rome is known for.
Thanks for pointing this out. Sick of all the stereotypes of why are buses, trains, planes always late in Italy? Why does construction of anything take so long? Rome has 7-10 million tourist a year and up to double that in holy years, 65 million for all Italy that's larger than the population. Most Heritage sites, number of art work of any country. The Duomo in Florence alone will take 6 years to repair/renew just the millions of mosaic pieces.
Rome is the last place I’d expect a subway, on the bright side, I guess all the digging they are doing for the subway, incentivizes them to discover so much more of the ancient city. Even if at this rate we won’t see a usable subway in that city in our lifetime.
Why the last place? It's a big city
Sounds like a win to me, a dedicated revenue stream that consistently churns out archaeological finds. I guess if the subway is all someone is after it's a nightmare, but for antiquarians it's a dream come true; just digging up half of Rome for the shits and giggles of it wasn't ever going to be on the table in a meaningful way, but if it's for a building project even the cynics will approve.
When your history is so rich it acts as a burden on future generations.
Question: What does one do in Rome if one is walking around all day and one has to pee? I found most restaurants.. except usually McDonald's.. will not accommodate you solely for that purpose. (I felt obliged to patronize McDonald's quite often in Italy, just because I relied upon their washrooms!)
Freedom Eagle has your back, and your bladder. Now would you like to supersize that Coke?
Jokes aside what are the portion sizes like over there? I'm visiting Greece in a few months and will probably pop over to Italy a couple of times as I mozy about but I've heard the food is better but sizes are way smaller, especially for sodas.
When I was in Italy, the daytime temperatures were about 30°C.. one can buy drinks in about any size you want.. including in a convenience store. I think that there was a free washroom (and a decent buffet restaurant) in the Rome train station.
@@m.e.345 I meant McDonalds specifically lol, I figure as a Western 1st world country with access to the global market there are definitely drinks of all sizes and varieties, I'd be flabbergasted to find out otherwise. Italian buffet sounds either really good or really bad, but I'm biased as I don't much care for Italian food, at least stuff with tomatoes.
..my recollection was that they are similar, if not the same. I thought it a bit sad.. I prefer to patronize what I perceive to be local small businesses, but the washrooms at McDonald's were always free even if I didn't buy something, at least in my experience, and they were air conditioned.. as far as I could tell, I always got the correct change, and the prices were often more reasonable.
@@m.e.345 I almost feel bad lol, the most reliable institution in a foreign land shouldn't be McDonald's but it's good to know, I have a bladder of steel but even it needs emptying from time to time.
You mentioned correct change, implying elsewhere you had an issue with that, is this something to watch out for like a hawk or can you reasonably expect most places to hand you correct change? If not what's the best way to mitigate that risk?
Capitoline Hill
Metroline Sea
Signs are only in Italian. 🙃
I read somewhere that the son of Agrippa choked to death eating a peach.🤔🍑
Rome: Making a subway here is the most difficult undertaking on Earth.
Los Angeles: Hold my beer.
Beautiful subway station, as the citizens respect their cultural past, with its faults and achievements. NYC and other urban centers in the U.S. could never have a station like this, as many of the people don't have a cultural past (or future).
miss those Confederate statues huh? 😂
@@reddykilowatt Caesar killed a million Gauls and enslaved another million, and we have a whole month named after him, heritage isn't rendered worthless because of moral reservations.
@@theeccentrictripper3863 oh yeah we should live by the same standards of 2000 years ago. good idea! 🤣🤣🤣
@@reddykilowatt Go tell the Mongols to tear down the statue of the Great Khan first, then you can moralize about southern slavers. This isn't an archaic paradigm it's what normal people have done throughout human history.
@@theeccentrictripper3863 lol love the people who want to defend human slavery in 2024. cuckoo cuckoo! 🤪🤪
Wasn't the point of this video to see the artifacts ? Yet you race through the underground station in a blurr !
Let's just say the Romans peaked about 2,000 years ago.
Rome should throw out all the private cars from the city centres. It's a no brainer. Probably would serve preservation as well. Maybe the subway is part of such a direction, but I'm not holding my breath. Most Cities are incredibly slow on the uptake when it comes to this issue, despite all the obvious advantages it brings. I really hate it when society is married to stupidity.
Need to slow down
Very unfortunate that so much can be lost by just building an infrastructure. Rome is a museum city, and honestly I don't think a modern infrastructure will ever be able to coexist with the deep history and richness of the city.
I mean Rome is one of the best examples in the world (if not THE example) of modern / daily / mondane and ancient coexisting
Rome is a thriving capital city of a major country with nearly 6 million inhabitants... so a lot more than just a museum.
Cancel the subway extension. Cycle, walk, scooter.
Two options. #1. Build the subway and damn the artifacts. #2. Don't build it and limit tourists from Rome. I don't have an opinion one way or the other because in another 1000 years, all of this will be dust.
The artifacts aren't dust after 2000
Why don't you just show what they found instead of the entire video of you talking
Good information but for fuck sake slow down when showing the artifacts
you pause too much... way too many commas in your speech pattern. You add you 1/2 to 1 second pauses way too often.
Show the artifacts! Quit talking so much.
Not very surprising to find roman artifacts when digging in Rome...