MK4 R32 VR6 Turbo Project Pt. 1
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- čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
- The only way to make a MK4 R32 VR6 better is by boosting it, and we're doing just that. Some may think this one should be left alone, however around here nothing is left untouched. In this one we dyno it in 100% stock form before doing any of the turbo upgrades. Follow along as we try and double the power to this 3.2 VR6.
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I bought a r32 roller here in Ontario and ended up swapping my 300hp 1.8t set up from my gli into it and the car is a blast to drive!
So you bought the awd golf to put a fwd jetta motor in it…. Makes sense
@@BRVYDEN it’s still awd if you think about it, makes more power for less 😂
Where’s the vr6
@@stevo_sir not really though the way the 1.8t is positioned it’s very unlikely, or this guy works at los santos customs he’s 🦁🦁🦁🦁
@@BRVYDEN they have a transfercase built into the transmission, the vr6 engine sits sideways in the bay too
Props for the owner to have his 💎 have such needed upgrade meanwhile being documented by CO Motorsport 😌 keep those Vlogs coming !-)
Great stuff
Agreed, and thanks.
Just bought one at an Insurance Auction in Philadelphia April 15th. R32 was sitting in the 1st owners driveway during a storm- a tree branch broke off and landed on the windshield, cracking the driver side & smashed the driver door frame. Absolute steal and project car has begun 🏄♂️
Very nice. Best of luck.
Looks like a perfect r32 to build for boost 👍🤙
Agreed
A beautiful car and an exciting project. I can’t wait to see further instalments - don’t be afraid to leave stuff in and make the running times long!
Now we are talking :).
I’d be interested in detailed explaination of each thing you do. Especially around
fitting the head spacer,
wiring for the short runner intake,
throttle body mods for the short runner intake.
Running the boost pipes and fitting the intercooler
Anything that you do for the rods like arp rod bolts etc.
Any vacuum deletes
Catch can install etc
Thanks. I’ll be doing mine in a couple of months so hoping you can help
Noted.
Such beautifully underrated and understated car. One of my favorite body styles with a vr6
Looking forward to seeing this build 👍
Super nice proyect guys! I already want to see those modifications 💪
you guys should have a lot more viewers and subscribers, good channel keep it going!
Much appreciated. We're trying.
Thats a clean r32. Cant wait to see the outcome
Reflex silver is such a beautiful colour choice on the mk4. It’s no wonder Volkswagen Germany has a line up of every generation they made of the gti in the same colour within their heritage warehouse.
Watch that car go on the auction bloc.
Great find!
This thing is going to be the ultimate sleeper haha 🤩
That thing is beautiful
Excited for the upcoming episodes on this car...however I would like to see the teardown on 1.8whoopt's engine provided that you guys have time to do so. Thanks for the content guys.
It's coming, client cars are priority so that will come when there's some play time.
Awesome project! Looking forward to seeing what you do!
What a Gem!! How nice is that!! Cant wait to see more video footage!!
Mine is being rebuilt completely. The head gasket spacer works for lowering compression on the VR6 but isn't reliable unless you are on top of fluids almost after every track weekend. Save rebuilds down the road, if boosting, forge the engine. Or don't crank the boost up too much past 10...or don't be brutal on it with the revs if you do.
The Blue one on our channel is tracked a lot and lived many many years as a headspacer motor (14psi). Only reason it's getting upgraded is because it dropped a valve. Completely unrelated to a headspacer.
So just little more detail on the 2wd dyno of a 4wd car. The VW 4motions are not "Quattro" they dont have permanent 4wd with a torsen LSD like the Audis. They have a angle gear on the "fwd" gearbox that transmits power to the rear. In the back there is a hydraulics clutch pack system "haldex system" that controls the power transmitted to the back by regulating the pressure on the clutch packs There is a controller and a hydraulic pump that controlls the engagement of the clutch packs based on what the ECU reads from wheel speed, engine rpm, throttle position, steering angle sensor and bunch of sensors. All they do to run in on the dyno is pull the fuse that send power to the haldex system and that way it is just fwd with no chance of the rear wheels engaging.
We did a complete video on this. 😉
Power. Power. Power. !!!
Still waiting to see how much boost a stock bottom end 2.5 will handle
It's on the agenda.
@@COMotorsports hell yeah!
This looks like a fun build! Not many r32s left.
That’s my favorite cup holder ever I purposely replaced the oem plastic cover to get the pop out cup holders on my 2000 gls Vr6 it’s awesome I have 4 cup holders I can get all my friends drinks when I go out to get food 😂
Insert meme of guy blinking his eyes.
Lmao, had no idea you guys were Canadian, I saw CO Motorsports and thought it was short for Colorado Motorsports 😅😪😆
Far from Colorado. :)
This will be interesting
sick!
4:00 ashtray, the change area is a little more to the front, near the handbrake, couldn't see if you have the rubber piece, I think you're missing it. To remove the ashtray, you have to push down on the little tab you pull to open it, when it's open.
Awesome content! Looking forward to this series!
I went the turbo route on my MKIV when it had 28k miles. That was back in 2012. Currently sitting at 58k miles and has been nothing short of 👌🏼.
It also looks basically stock. Getting the front mount plumbing to fit behind while keeping the grills isn’t easy, but very doable. Relocated my power steering lines to a cooler set behind the passenger side grill. Looking forward the next parts of this build.
Only way it should be. :)
Excited for this
Yea buddy!!! New content !!!!
Clayton you lied to me! Lets go! Boost baby. Schimmel shipping me my VRT block this week
I’m confused. What did I lie to you about? Boost is always the answer!!!! :)
Ok maybe it wasnt you. who ever answerd on here under CO. you guys asked what we wanted to see next. I said VR6 turbo. Some one said maybe in the future but wouldnt be next. Boost IS always the answer. Ill be a kid in a candy store when I pull my motor of this truck this week.
Ahh got ya! This isn’t going to be a Hoopt style build. This one deserves a proper build :)
I had a MK4 24v VR6 GTI too bro!!
I loved it until I realized how slow they were once I finished my MK1. lol
Can we get more videos more consistently please like I really dig this shit and the information is really important to have
We're trying. We have lots to share but clients come first and it's hard to balance. Unfortunately at this level YTs not paying the bills, and just adds way more work to every job so we're doing what we can. Appreciate the comments though.
Watch there gonna be 5 parts to this video lol looking forward to see this build! Wanting to build one my own.
Don't plan on it, but it will be whatever time allows.
1:19 Hey, they aren't that slow ;(
I'm hyped to see this series, not too many people doing R32 builds on youtube
How about this, compared to everything else on this channel... it's slow. :)
@@COMotorsports Haha, for sure. I didn't realize you guys were the ones with the track setup turbo R32, I remember watching those videos awhile ago.
bro, these may be slow, but definitely feel way funner than a 350hp mk7 R. I don't think my 2.8 4motion is that slow tbh, the engine capacity helps with that a little. I wouldn't mind it to be quicker, yes, but it's not as tragical as people make it sound. They are not that light either
There is no comparison to a 7r honestly. But it's not always about power and performance the mk4 r32 is a unique car on its own.
Love this, lets go
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the nissan colored headliner and pillars gave it away .
Yeah not a fan.
Team purity!!!
So jealous!
Nothing like a gt35 to wake the vr up
Please capture the owners first drive and facial expression of 400bhp for the first time, secondly well done, i love the r32t mk4 content.......... please share the choice for clutch, i boosted mine hoping my stock clutch will last on 7psi, but sadly it lasted about 2 high way pulls, now its still holding on 5psi.... which will be my boost till i replace it.
We'll do what we can but not everyone wants to be displayed on the internet. I still struggle with this myself so I completely get it. lol
This vid series has come up at the right time . Looking at selling my stage3 tuned Mk7 R and getting a TT Mk1 or Mk2 VR 3.2 , I remember when the TT 8N was released and how close it was the the concept car .
Having had a couple of lower back ops driving manual can end up be painful , so how reliable are the early DSG’s ? If a cleaner manual comes up I might have to bite the bullet .
If you don’t mind what’s the difference between the high output 20V four to the lower power 20V four ?
There’s a Mk4 Golf R32 for sale near me ,their asking $25K AU ,it’s not in that great condition but Mk4 R32’s aren’t that common in Australia .
Cheers
Dude come over to germany and buy one here for 10000€ and then import it
Earlier DSGs meaning the 6 speed from the mk.5 golfs are very strong and perfectly reliable as long as you keep to regular oil changes at proper intervals or preferably earlier. I owned a 2008 Mk5 GTi DSG from new and had zero issues. Later sold that and bought a used Mk5 R32 DSG in 2017 and that had problems with intermitantly jerky take-offs from standstill aside from being a bit clunky in the lower gears in slow traffic. Turned out the previous owner was careful with engine oil changes but ignored proper gearbox oil changes. The problem according to my local VW specialists is build up of metal suspended in the gearbox oil will short the electonics in the mechatronic gearbox ECU which sits inside the gearbox bathed in oil. I had to replace that (expensive!!) and replaced the dual wet clutch (not expensive) too while I was at it and that sorted everything out, no problem till today, it now feels very nearly as smooth as a torque converter transmission in city traffic. I was told some of the later 7 speed DSGs that came with dry clutches had problems due to owners treating them like they were torque converter autos, meaning holding the car stationary on uphill inclines using the motor rather than brake. This wears out the dry clutch fast.
Good luck in your search:)
@@zahimiibrahim3602 Thanks for the reply . My wife’s Polo GTi has the 1.8T with dry clutch 7 speed and we do treat that with care ,I get the DQ200 & DQ250 serviced every 15K kilometres which works out every 2 years given the K’s we both do in our cars .
Cheers
I'm in the process of buying a R32 MK4 in red but it doesn't run so I'm thinking of doing a 3.6 swap but it's gonna sit till I'm done with my 2.5 MK6 but it's $1000 so it was a no brainer to buy it
If you haven't bought it yet, it's already sold. :)
@@COMotorsports no I payed the guy I'm just trying to get paperwork so I can have it towed
"PUT SOME HEAT IN THE MOTOR" (not too much though don't wana spit out part numbers like WCF) also i didnt know these were a thing in japan, i had seen a few over the years show up at import places but i assumed that was a north American vehicle someone had imported over there that was now for sale/to come back to North America.
This is how they were sold their. I don't know the rules and stuff behind it all but I do see some come up to import from there. I'm pretty sure they got a 4dr version as well which would be super rare...and me being a 2dr guy they can keep. Lol
45k miles?!?! that's insanely low, what a gem
Agreed
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Its like the 1.8hoopt but not as hoopty-ish
It's like the exact opposite you mean. lol
@@COMotorsports same but different... Lol
Put a fuel pressure regulator, vr6 love's hight fuel flow
The amount of power you’re shooting for is what dictates the amount of fuel you throw at it.
And the fuel.
Excellent channel!! have you ever done an engine swap on a jetta or golf mk4 1.8t to a r32 mk4 engine? How easy will this exchange be with the harness and accessories? may remain as original' Greetings from Mexico
MK4 alot of the same stuff.
@@COMotorsports I am about to make that swap in my GLI mk4, I hope to be able to reuse the same harness!!
I want to do it myself because here where he lived, the people who do these jobs are no longer trusted and I am collecting all the information I can!
thank you very much for your reply!!
All these years later and I still chuckle that a golf weighs what a similar year vette weighs, can't remember if it's still classified as a compact though.
She's definitely got some junk in the trunk 😂
Yet a Corvette is fiberglass... So who's really doing it wrong? :)
@@COMotorsports that's a pretty big car though and a golf is an economy car at it's base though.
@@COMotorsports don't get me wrong I dig em ,it's just the weight is a killer sometimes
@@MrTheHillfolk agreed
@@COMotorsports
Can't wait to hear some wookies though, this is gonna be a hoot!
I'm gonna need a vr6t in my life one day.
wish mine had no sunroof, nothing but trouble for the last 15 years
any update on this project? about to undertake the same thing across the pond
fuck. yes.
Nice ass car!!! Getter hot boys!.. do you need to do a rod upgrade like the 1.8? Or they hold better.. just curious
Just doing a headspacer. Pistons are the weak point in VRs.
Where’s part 2!!
A Japanese left hand drive 2dr R32? Mhmm.
I could’ve sworn all in Japan were rhd and 4dr.
Maybe it wasn't Japan, it came from somewhere in Asia. :)
@@COMotorsports The 2-door MkIV, MkV and MkVI Rs in Japan are (I believe) all the same spec: LHD and manual, no sunroof. I did read that these 2-door Rs were actually imported from the US market, but I’m not sure how true that is now.
@@fmarinosfromafar9512 there are other differences we missed also, 0BD2 port in center console, no center headrest in back seat and a few others.
@@fmarinosfromafar9512 it appears to be a 2003 European spec R32. Very common in Japan for them to import the cars new from various European countries with favorable import duties as LHD is considered prestigious in Japan. Makes for a great place to import exotic German cars.
Being an early European R32 it didn't get the updated dash with the relocated cup holders. If I remember correctly these were produced before the North American 20th anniversary cars with the black headliners that ended up being carried over to the North American R32's.
Definitely in agreement with CO Motorsports with stock form being a bit of a dog without turbos. That AWD takes some of the fun out of the platform. Looking forward to seeing this car woken up!
More 18Hoopt content please
It's coming.
Can I do similar things to my 24v 3.2 vr6.... in my.... 😑Lifted Porsche 😅😂 I want to Frankenstein the thing and this is exactly what the Dr ordered
Yes sir.
👍👍
I need to get my hand on one of these heads to do testing! Or 3.6
Clayton has a wrecked one.
@@COMotorsports what’s he doing to that?
Hi , can you help with mono o2?
Ik this is dumb but if you were trying to save gas on your commute could you just drive around with the rear wheels turned off like that?
That's what Haldex does 99% of the time in standard form. Rear wheels only engage when I slips. (Never Haldex is a bit more predictive but same premise. Regular driving fwd only).
What were they thinking putting a cup holder over the stereo 🤦
Not just a cup holder, one of the worst cup holders ever.
@@COMotorsports the were trying to beat the mk3 cup holder🤣
Will be an interesting journey, wonder how the gearbox, transfer case, diff, haldex will cope with 400HP? My manual MK6 R became 2WD for the past couple of months not long after replacing a slipping clutch (45K kms and stage 2 Bluefin tune+turbo back Miltek, stock clutch couldn't cope with that tune, flashed back to stock and no slipping, now running SACHS perf clutch still with DMF ). I thought the 2WD issue was the transfer case input shaft gear slipping similar to I think one of your previous vids, but suddenly a couple of days ago it is happily 4WD again... very confusing issue.
They're typically good for 400whp, with upgraded clutch of course.
Interested in the origins of that car being LHD, any ideas? I have the 5dr version, and like most Japanese imports it's RHD (because like UK, Australia, NZ we drive on the left hand side of the road).
They were LHD there also.
What’s the easiest way to get power from the VR6 with out the turbo ?
Nitrous, or sell it and buy a car with more power.
Find someone that has the perfect cam for it...
euro tails don't have reflectors in the sides of them.
Ah, interesting
If the car is AWD how you doing dyno with back wheels strapped
I'll pretend you're not serious.
I own an mk4 r32 too, how much would this turbo kit cost me?
Email us for pricing, it's all going to come down to power goals, what mods the vehicle currently has, what's required, etc.
Left hand drive from japan🤔🤔
Correct
Does it have awd or did you just disconect awd pump fuse xD.
It's just a 32.
@@COMotorsports How heavy it is? Im interesed how much lighter it is without awd? I think that awd version is 1400ish kg (idk pounds).
@@Nikola-wk8si did you watch the video?
@@COMotorsports yes but i probbably missed it😅.Sry .
What turbo kit are you guys getting?
This was the same kit that came off of Kayla’s R32t. There’s a few video on this channel about it.
omg!! can I use this same info to turbo my 24v vr6?????
Sure
what would be the best turbo kit for a 24v vr6?
There really aren't many left.
@@COMotorsports any suggestions on turbo, injectors, front mount intercooler?
@@isaacallen7102 yep we can supply all that no problem.
So your gonna pull the motor and put a head spacer????? WHY???? If your gonna add boost and going to the trouble of pulling the motor why not build the motor properly? Get some lower compression FORGED pistons meant for boost!! And I would upgrade the connecting rods as well with all ARP fasteners including the head stud kit!! Also get whatever diffs needed from Quaife so that you can actually put the power to the ground!
Because all that's totally unnecessary for this post level. Headspacer VRs have been proven for decades.
Hang on… we didn’t get mk4 R32’s in Canada?? What?!
No we did not.
@@COMotorsports I never knew that, and I’d consider myself a vw fanboy. I know I’ve seen them… must have been imported.
@@okanelkin all have been imported yes. Most from the US but like this one some are coming from other lands. :)
gtx 40 on e plz
We got one on deck with a Gen2 3584. :) That turbo is good for 1k.
can i buy your stock airbox
Not for sale.
Websites not working
Seems to be working fine. I just checked and clicked a few links in the description of this video and all works fine.
Maybe its me, thanks for the fast reply!.
Love your work. Hope to be coming in shortly for new clutch.
How have prices been.with inflation? Feeling it much?
@@Greatnewhope all depends what it is really.
You should really make the purists mad and swap in an AEG 🤔🤔🤔
This is a customer car, so no. And if it were our car, still no. Haha
247hp is slow as balls? My car is slower than balls then and I'm happy 🤷🏼♂️
240 crank hp, in a 3400lb car. In this day and age.. yes it's slow unfortunately.