Byzantine Empire: Justinian and Theodora - The Reforms of Justinian - Extra History - Part 2

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  • 📜 Byzantine Empire: Justinian and Theodora - Part 2 - Extra History
    Justinian wanted to restore the glory of Rome, but many obstacles stood in his way. He brought on talented advisors to help him reform the tax system, the law code, and the military might of the empire. With them he made great strides, but these advisors had very human flaws. His tax collector, John the Cappadocian, centralized tax collection and crushed corruption in his agents, greatly increasing the revenue to the empire - but he also skimmed money off the top to feed his private corruption. Meanwhile, a lawyer named Tribonian took centuries of confusing and even conflicting legal precedents and resolved them into a single code, the Corpis Juris Civilis, which remains the foundation of modern law today. He even made a textbook for students to learn from. But he was also a practicing pagan during an era when Justinian was trying to crack down on pagan rituals. And last, Justinian's chief military commander Belisarius helped the Empire recover its military glory. He defeated the Sassanid Persians in the Battle of Dara, crushing a force of 50,000 men with only 25,000 of his own through clever strategy: he dug a trench to halt their infantry's advance, then baited the Persian cavalry into overextending and sprang a surprise attack on them with Hun mercenaries. Although Belisarius seems to have been an upstanding person, his personal historian Procopius tainted even his clean record. Procopius wrote glowing official histories of the reign of Justinian, but his long lost secret history depicted Justinian as a literal headless demon and Theodora as a debauched monster.
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  • @ameliaelaine1813
    @ameliaelaine1813 Před 3 lety +581

    "Torturing rich people until they paid their taxes."
    Hey Ferb, I know what we're gonna do today

  • @Titan360
    @Titan360 Před 9 lety +872

    "And I don't mean a figurative monster, I mean a demonic creature that could pop off its head and wonder the palace headless late at night."
    ...that describes every single character your art team draws for Extra Credits/History.

    • @0th_Law
      @0th_Law Před 2 lety +9

      @@hahaveryfunnyindeed2543 Not to your _knowledge._

  • @KennyHazy97
    @KennyHazy97 Před 8 lety +2244

    I want HBO to make a series based on this. A cast of colourful, unlikely characters working together to keep an old mighty beast of an empire alive and kicking.

    • @AVeryDandyLad
      @AVeryDandyLad Před 6 lety +48

      There was 2 seasons of Rome.

    • @MM-vs2et
      @MM-vs2et Před 5 lety +92

      That Rome was centered around Imperial Rome 50 BC - 10 BC. This Rome, or, Byzantine, are way past that era

    • @abhimanyukarnawat7441
      @abhimanyukarnawat7441 Před 5 lety +21

      I'd watch that

    • @cindchan
      @cindchan Před 5 lety +7

      I would certainly watch it!

    • @silvussol8966
      @silvussol8966 Před 5 lety +22

      A Byzantine era series could maybe even give a nod to some of my ancestors, the Varangians.

  • @Kth77
    @Kth77 Před 9 lety +1259

    This may be the most interesting story in history. A nation crumbling, enemies at the gate. Then, a peasant rises to emperor and gathers a team of quirky (to put it as friendly as possible) but talented individuals to save the empire, but the vestiges of the old world won't let go without a fight!

    • @YossarianVanDriver
      @YossarianVanDriver Před 9 lety +49

      Kth77 Man, yeah, this'd be a great movie or novel.

    • @jadeforest7924
      @jadeforest7924 Před 9 lety +59

      Kth77 I wish that Hollywood would produce movies with this high quality of plot, but alas, that will never happen.

    • @MichaelBirks
      @MichaelBirks Před 9 lety +31

      YossarianVanDriver It might run afoul of the same problem that plagues all the movies about Alexander the Great. (It's not Colin Firth's fault, honest!).
      There's just so much going on here that to crank it down into a two hour movie would mean you have to gloss over so much that it would be bland.
      I could see several movies aiming at individual elements of the story:
      Belasarius I: The Battle of Dara
      Belasarious II: The Nika Rebellion
      (Belasarius III: The time travelling talking crystal from the future - with apologies to David Drake and Eric Flint)

    • @RubberyCat
      @RubberyCat Před 9 lety +17

      Michael Birks Why not follow an Avengers-like crossover concept? ............. * Justinian * The Cappadocian * Lawman Tribonian * Belasarius - The Battle of Dara ....... And so on.

    • @MichaelBirks
      @MichaelBirks Před 9 lety +13

      RubberyCat You've got a point. I would submit, however, that while "The Cappadocian" could be an epic of sex and debauchery, "Law-writer Tribonian" might possibly be a little too dry.
      Although, if they were to crank in "the Secret history" as well, it could be more interesting.
      Have to find the right person to play Theodora, though.

  • @courtneywoodbury5198
    @courtneywoodbury5198 Před 8 lety +391

    Too bad they couldn't flood that trench and put up a sign that said something like 'enjoy your bath'.

    • @2b-coeur
      @2b-coeur Před 8 lety +13

      +Courtney Woodbury Yeah, I was kind of expecting something like that XD

    • @mankytoes
      @mankytoes Před 7 lety +13

      I was expecting them to flood a section of it and through his corpse in at the end, oh well.

    • @dagshadowville
      @dagshadowville Před 7 lety +15

      I was expecting him to get some fucked up bath as a captive, like maybe with his soldiers' blood or a bath in boiling oil.

    • @TheIbney00
      @TheIbney00 Před 7 lety +22

      That's some fucking Spartan wit right there.

    • @azelfdaboi5265
      @azelfdaboi5265 Před 5 lety

      Lol

  • @viettrungtran4500
    @viettrungtran4500 Před 9 lety +270

    What i learn from this story is "A good king is not the one who wipe out all the corruption within his kingdom. But to bring out the best from the worst people and use it for the greater good."

    • @rob6927
      @rob6927 Před 2 lety +1

      Where is that quote from?

    • @viettrungtran4500
      @viettrungtran4500 Před 2 lety +6

      Not quote. Just something you learn from this video.

    • @rob6927
      @rob6927 Před 2 lety +4

      @@viettrungtran4500 Oh, ok. So it's your own quote then 👍🏼

    • @marshalsoult3860
      @marshalsoult3860 Před 2 lety +1

      @@viettrungtran4500 6 years ago hehe

  • @runetitan-lx4ih
    @runetitan-lx4ih Před 9 lety +987

    so many of these extra history videos make me want to play a total war game.

    • @wschippr1
      @wschippr1 Před 9 lety +10

      rune titan Yep, Tots understand that.

    • @Mr.Korzack
      @Mr.Korzack Před 9 lety +13

      rune titan Oh, same - Also, I found it weirdly good timing that days after this series started, a DLC campaign for Atilla that covers the precise period they're talking about came out. I know if CA has underwritten the series like they did Punic wars it would've been disclosed, but still, awesome timing!

    • @Marylandbrony
      @Marylandbrony Před 9 lety +30

      rune titan Also this show's very existence come from when the studio which makes the game used some left over marking funds for Rome 2 to get extra credits to make a series on the Carthaginian wars to promote the game and people liked it and wanted it full time the rest is history.

    • @michaelkemel9711
      @michaelkemel9711 Před 9 lety +7

      rune titan "Total War: Byzantium"
      Fuck yes.

    • @InfernGame
      @InfernGame Před 9 lety +7

      This series makes playing total war games so much more fun actually. Like, for Rome 2 we got the Punic War series, for Shogun 2 we got the Sengoku Jidai series and for Atilla we got the Byzantine series. We're only missing Empire, Napoleon and Medieval. (btw those three games would make a great theme for an extra history series).

  • @Psychohistorian42
    @Psychohistorian42 Před 9 lety +301

    Byzantium: History's best kept secret. Seriously, even one of my high school history teachers was miffed that they had to blow past an empire that stood for almost 1000 years. I ended up taking a class in college to fill in that massive gap, taught by the guy who literally wrote the book on the Byzantine Empire.

  • @Edward-kh5ub
    @Edward-kh5ub Před 9 lety +486

    Justinian wasn't a monster he was one of our highly intelligent reptilian overlord's.

    • @frigiderm5
      @frigiderm5 Před 9 lety +5

      The government is reptiles everyone

    • @dfadgsadfga1816
      @dfadgsadfga1816 Před 9 lety +2

      Edward 14 Don't worry TPI is gonna bring them down.

    • @kingvan7872
      @kingvan7872 Před 9 lety +4

      Edward 14 YOU KNOW TOO MUCH HUMON!!
      I mean!... Your just one of those crazy conspiracy theories.
      Reptilians, as if......

    • @grfrjiglstan
      @grfrjiglstan Před 9 lety +2

      Edward 14 Groveling, sniveling, driveling horde
      To worship scaly overlord

    • @Tailikku1
      @Tailikku1 Před 8 lety +2

      except for the fact that Icke was off his rocker, and that there were never any reptilians

  • @aaronman4772
    @aaronman4772 Před 9 lety +864

    Two things. First, holy cow I want to know more of Belisarius now, because he sounds like a commander that we need to know more about.
    Second, the Secret History sounds like something that would come after a night of binge drinking (and possibly some acid) after the ruler pissed you off. Depicting a ruler as a literal headless demon, that takes some serious stones and/or disillusionment.

    • @seret1628
      @seret1628 Před 9 lety +68

      aaronman4772 I believe there is a new Total War : Attila DLC which let's you play as Belisarius in his campaigns in the west (if that helps you)

    • @aaronman4772
      @aaronman4772 Před 9 lety +8

      Seret Actually never been a Total War fan. Just not my cup of tea.

    • @craznorse6240
      @craznorse6240 Před 9 lety +41

      aaronman4772
      After you've read up on him, you should check out the alternative history "belisarius" series by Eric Flint. Time travelers mess with the time period, and Belisarius as the main character have to fix things.

    • @redwallzyl
      @redwallzyl Před 9 lety +2

      aaronman4772 theres a really good podcast about his life. its forteen episodes the page is belisariusahistory.com/

    • @Halloweensmasher
      @Halloweensmasher Před 9 lety +7

      aaronman4772 I believe that Belisarius is most famous for his campaign in Italy, but they probably won't get to that for a few episodes.

  • @cheezemonkeyeater
    @cheezemonkeyeater Před 9 lety +2519

    "Torturing rich people until they paid their taxes."
    Sounds like a good idea, actually.

    • @VintageLJ
      @VintageLJ Před 9 lety +50

      cheezemonkeyeater Don't hurt me :(

    • @svnhddbst8968
      @svnhddbst8968 Před 9 lety +155

      cheezemonkeyeater torture is wrong, but when literally nothing else works.

    • @LtKharn
      @LtKharn Před 9 lety +62

      cheezemonkeyeater Yeah I reckon they could do with a little persuasion.You know just to give them new insights into our cause.

    • @BlaxeFrost-X
      @BlaxeFrost-X Před 9 lety +16

      ***** ... is the physical torture the only one that is prohibited?

    • @svnhddbst8968
      @svnhddbst8968 Před 9 lety +24

      pretty sure anything that could be defined as torture by a reasonable person is outlawed.

  • @satoshinakamoto5710
    @satoshinakamoto5710 Před 9 lety +408

    As usual, these stories makes me want to collect the most brilliant minds and do something amazing.

    • @vatekehcorlon867
      @vatekehcorlon867 Před 9 lety +27

      Ikr. This shit sound soo epic and fun, but tbh I but it took a long time and in on thinkable amount of hard work . Not that I'm lazy but the emperor is on a who other level with his squad lol

    • @Sylocat
      @Sylocat Před 9 lety +9

      ***** But as always, beware the Great Man Theory of History.

    • @topnotchshinobi
      @topnotchshinobi Před 9 lety +3

      ***** In today's standards, we'd call that a think tank, right?

    • @satoshinakamoto5710
      @satoshinakamoto5710 Před 9 lety +13

      Varekeh Corlon Admittedly, the art, music and just the way Extra History is made is really what is responsible for giving off motivational "Epic" vibe.

    • @acebalistic1358
      @acebalistic1358 Před 6 lety +2

      Then do it

  • @Oddwinters
    @Oddwinters Před 8 lety +128

    I was half expecting belisarius to have the Persian commander captured, then drowned in a bathtub

    • @dyer4677
      @dyer4677 Před 5 lety +42

      OddishMaster250 Naw, Belisarius isn’t one for witty or poetic come backs. He gets back by letting his actions speak for him. He’s kinda like those guys that’ll jump into a multiplayer game and curb stomp the whole server and leave without ever saying a word.

    • @azelfdaboi5265
      @azelfdaboi5265 Před 5 lety +4

      I wouldve

    • @combativeThinker
      @combativeThinker Před 5 lety +6

      According to his actions, he's much more akin to Red from Pokémon.

  • @devonbrook
    @devonbrook Před 9 lety +60

    I feel like the Secret History is a very early example of spite fanfiction when he was grumpy about it and wanted to blow some steam.

    • @priyankarkandarpa4414
      @priyankarkandarpa4414 Před 9 lety +2

      Melly B Nah it is actually the most perverted stuff in the world, so sick it can't be fanfic

    • @a_channel2545
      @a_channel2545 Před 3 lety +2

      @@priyankarkandarpa4414 I think you underestimate how sick the minds of fanfic writers can be 😂

    • @Brrrrrrrr
      @Brrrrrrrr Před 3 lety +1

      @@a_channel2545 woosh

    • @arvt_
      @arvt_ Před 3 měsíci

      what if he was just horribly drunk lol

  • @TakoyaKyono
    @TakoyaKyono Před 9 lety +72

    "THIS. IS. PERSIA!"
    Quick, someone make a remix!

  • @starilie
    @starilie Před 8 lety +93

    How is this not an Oscar winning HBO show?

    • @marvelfannumber1
      @marvelfannumber1 Před 8 lety +16

      +starilie
      Because Hollywood sucks at adapting history.

    • @marvelfannumber1
      @marvelfannumber1 Před 8 lety +9

      John von Shepard
      Game of Thrones is not based on actual history...I hope you realize this.

    • @joinmarch76
      @joinmarch76 Před 8 lety +1

      +starilie Never crossed their minds? Personally, I see the guys behind Game of Thrones to work on it.

    • @otocan
      @otocan Před 8 lety +3

      +starilie 1. Because TV shows aren't eligible Oscars. 2. Because not everything has to be a movie or a TV show. Pick up a book.

    • @thejunks3597
      @thejunks3597 Před 8 lety

      +starilie HBO tried with a show called Rome and it sucked :P

  • @SuperLigad
    @SuperLigad Před 9 lety +133

    How great would a TV show like GOT but on this stuff be?

    • @juliahenriques210
      @juliahenriques210 Před 9 lety +9

      Ligad Ossadon Amazing, for sure. It would also probably be cancelled at least one season (or two...) short of what was originally intended, like The Borgias.

    • @etherwing
      @etherwing Před 9 lety +6

      Ligad Ossadon Watch Rome.

    • @SuperLigad
      @SuperLigad Před 9 lety +4

      edvardian Watched it.

    • @gantzisballs
      @gantzisballs Před 8 lety +2

      +Stannis Baratheon It will become GOT when the Byzantines get completely destroyed by semi-nomadic horse warriors from the Sea of Grass (Central Asian Steppe). Dothraki = Turks.

    • @stevenchoza6391
      @stevenchoza6391 Před 7 lety +1

      gantzisballs
      Wrong... the Dothraki are based on the Mongols...

  • @Muffinmurdurer
    @Muffinmurdurer Před 9 lety +37

    We need a ck2 Justinian based DLC with your court being all of these guys.

  • @anglexfluffy5669
    @anglexfluffy5669 Před 9 lety +17

    4:24 Pure brilliance right there. Why isnt this man remembered more dearly, I'll never know...

  • @Marylandbrony
    @Marylandbrony Před 9 lety +38

    I laughed when I saw "THIS IS PERSIA!"

  • @tekkaoz
    @tekkaoz Před 9 lety +12

    Belisarius really needs more credit, he was an incredible general.

  • @anosandri5122
    @anosandri5122 Před 9 lety +20

    You cannot imagine how much I apreciate these episodes about the Byzantine Empire ... I've been taught most of these names and locations in school ,but your way of presenting them is reeeaaally enjoyable !!! Justinianus is a very well known historical figure in my country . Keep up the amazing work EC !!!!!

  • @llSuperSnivyll
    @llSuperSnivyll Před 3 lety +7

    I have a tiny idea about that "secret" book by Procopious. Assuming he lived long enough to see the end of Belisarius's campaign in the west, he would have seen Justinian getting mad at him, and later Theodora removing pretty much all the power he had, that secret book could be pretty much one long rant by Procopious about how they "betrayed" his friend.

  • @Vellrick
    @Vellrick Před 9 lety +73

    There's a good book series that's sort of sci-fi/alternate history, that centres on Belisarius. First book is 'An Oblique Approach' (David Drake and Eric Flint)

    • @GamerFromJump
      @GamerFromJump Před 9 lety

      My first thought upon hearing of Belisarius, too.

    • @Acularius
      @Acularius Před 9 lety +7

      Vellrick "Deadly with a blade is Belisarius".

    • @christiandauz3742
      @christiandauz3742 Před 9 lety +2

      Vellrick Lest Darkness Fall

    • @Zeus67
      @Zeus67 Před 9 lety +3

      Vellrick One of my favorite series.

    • @tekkaoz
      @tekkaoz Před 9 lety +8

      Vellrick One of the best book series I've ever read. I'm half tempted to break them out again.

  • @themanwiththeplan1401
    @themanwiththeplan1401 Před 7 lety +59

    Secret History of Procopius. It was Walpole

    • @robertwalpole360
      @robertwalpole360 Před 7 lety +15

      I had to hide it somewhere. You'd be surprised what kind of things I had to hide for people.

    • @procopius-scribe281
      @procopius-scribe281 Před 7 lety +10

      Yes indeed, Walpole, (Moneys in the back for hiding this)

    • @azelfdaboi5265
      @azelfdaboi5265 Před 5 lety +3

      I'm not surprised at this point, walpole does everything

  • @u4icdissonance180
    @u4icdissonance180 Před 9 lety +16

    I am really loving this series on Justinian and (what is now known as) the Byzantine Empire. Its a period I'd never really learned about before and it fascinates me. That being said, I often find books on history to be very dry and I get nowhere near the same level of engagement I do from these videos. Would you consider adding a recommended reading list to the end of your "lies we told you" videos for those of us that would like to explore these periods more and would appreciate a place to start?

  • @joshuagrahm3607
    @joshuagrahm3607 Před 8 lety +23

    1:39- Jon the Cappadocian for pres.

  • @kdipi
    @kdipi Před 9 lety +34

    5:44 well here's your bath

  • @ImperatorPenguin
    @ImperatorPenguin Před 9 lety +693

    Torture the rich until they pay there taxes eh?... I think this John guy had the right idea!

    • @kevinyoung947
      @kevinyoung947 Před 5 lety +4

      drsdino on your smart phone couldn’t that money have been used to help the poor?

    • @Gamingetic
      @Gamingetic Před 5 lety +10

      Kevin Young sorry, I didn't know a 10 dollar used windows phone could help the poor much

    • @Matthew-Anthony
      @Matthew-Anthony Před 5 lety +3

      In the U.S. rich people pay more in taxes than the middle class, working class, and lower class COMBINED.

    • @PennyDreadful1
      @PennyDreadful1 Před 5 lety +17

      @@Matthew-AnthonyWell ofcourse they do! They have astronomical sums of money compared to everyone else. Whether they are paying the percent of money that they should is another thing.

    • @nguyenhuy2163
      @nguyenhuy2163 Před 5 lety +9

      @@Matthew-Anthony Sources?

  • @Heroroar
    @Heroroar Před 6 lety +10

    Coming back to this series after watching the Khosrau series is absolutely great. Seeing the events from both perspectives is hilarious.

  • @Monochromicornicopia
    @Monochromicornicopia Před 7 lety +49

    Can you drop a date every once in a while? I'd love to know what year you're talking about.

    • @Monochromicornicopia
      @Monochromicornicopia Před 7 lety +2

      Dean Cutler Um, no?

    • @Monochromicornicopia
      @Monochromicornicopia Před 7 lety +6

      Dean Cutler That defeats the purpose of asking for the dates to be included in the video.

    • @albertm7178
      @albertm7178 Před 7 lety +6

      GDI Well one, As much as it is a good idea for EC to put in dates in their videos, you still probably should look it up yourself
      History is not exactly a clear cut case. Justinians reign is unique sure, but even conflicting historical sources exist.
      If you truly want to learn about the times, the history and understanding, it is best for you to look it up on the internet

    • @BriarGermanovich
      @BriarGermanovich Před 5 lety

      The dates could be unknown

    • @Sea-zu4bj
      @Sea-zu4bj Před 5 lety +2

      It's literally just dates, can they not pop it in

  • @MisterGunpowder257
    @MisterGunpowder257 Před 9 lety +37

    Well, from what I'm hearing, this Tribonian guy wasn't that bad. No worse than our modern politicians, except he managed to be a major official with an alternative religion.

    • @bobjimboob6920
      @bobjimboob6920 Před 2 lety

      If Honore, Tribonian's biographer, is anything to go by, he probably didn't even have an 'alternate' (certainly not a Pagan) religion - never quite made my own mind up on that one, reports certainly do conflict...

  • @ZanraiKid
    @ZanraiKid Před 9 lety +86

    You thought John the Cappadocian reformed the taxation practices?
    It was Walpole.
    You thought Tribonian organized the legal canon?
    Walpole.
    You thought Belisarius united the East Roman Empire?
    (actually Walpole would never get his hands dirty on the affairs of the military, but...)
    You thought Belisarius created the tactics necessary to win the East?
    Starts with W, rhymes with Qualquole.

    • @joeandrew8752
      @joeandrew8752 Před 9 lety +1

      ZanraiKid can you explain the Walpole reference please

    • @hsnd2388
      @hsnd2388 Před 9 lety +12

      Joe Andrew There was a line in the last episode of the South Seas Bubble series: "...Who knows who took over th- it was Walpole." People thought the line was hilarious. People made jokes about it being Walpole on every video. That's it.

    • @thegeneralissimo470
      @thegeneralissimo470 Před 9 lety +2

      ZanraiKid Oh no, He's created a meme!

    • @lizzygoldburg5442
      @lizzygoldburg5442 Před 9 lety +5

      ZanraiKid If anyone in Roman history is Walpole, its Caesar Augustus. That guy, like Walpole did with Prime Minister, created the post of Roman Emperor through manipulation to an amazing degree. In fact, I'd say the rise of Augustus and the birth of the Roman Empire/Death of the Roman Republic is an excellent candidate for an Extra History series in the future.
      Also, "it was Walpole" has now joined "warrior monks" and "British flag problems" as Extra History memes.

    • @Jordanationalismtion
      @Jordanationalismtion Před 9 lety +1

      Lizzy Goldburg One can also make the point that it was always Livia doing everything, ever. Alexander getting assassinated? It was Livia. Germanicus being discredited and poisoned? Livia. Marcus Aurelius' Germanic campaigns losing their steam after his death? Livia. The JFK assassination? Livia. It was always Livia, and forever will be Livia.

  • @DeGreekDollmaker
    @DeGreekDollmaker Před 9 lety +32

    You know, not to complain, but you guys havent exactly elaborated on the Rome/Byzantium/Eastern Rome naming thing that some people may not be knowledgeable on.
    Basically, the Byzantine empire /was/ the Roman Empire, its people continued to identify themselves as romans up until the fall of Constantinople in the 15th century.
    The Byzantine term was slapped on them afterwards from mostly western Historians, either to seperate it from the proper Roman empire, or to try and legitimize their own claims as being heirs to the one true Roman Empire.

  • @BlueSugarMaple
    @BlueSugarMaple Před 8 lety +8

    Belisarius was a stand up guy, but you didn't mention that he had the worst unfaithful wife ever, Antonina.

  • @kyledabearsfan
    @kyledabearsfan Před 4 lety +2

    These videos are so perfectly put together. Great scripting for sure! It is amazing how you guys manage to make these videos digestible for everyone.

  • @nehemiahjacinto8439
    @nehemiahjacinto8439 Před 4 lety +3

    3:26 Boi that sacreligiousness ain't got nothin' On BEN LEE

  • @wu1ming9shi
    @wu1ming9shi Před 8 lety +59

    "Torturing the rich until they pay". Just me or does that actually sound like a good idea?

    • @asapyvx_9995
      @asapyvx_9995 Před 8 lety +1

      +KasparovBBQ LOOOL!

    • @kevinyoung947
      @kevinyoung947 Před 5 lety +3

      If you want the rich to take their money to another country then yes just lol at America’s corporate tax rate it has the same affect

  • @typograf62
    @typograf62 Před 6 lety +14

    Belisarius did reappear, in Asimovs Empire and Foundation-series. There he is called Bel Riose.

  • @peternguyen1085
    @peternguyen1085 Před 8 lety +1

    Thank you so much for making these series! I enjoy them so much!

  • @DDZTDD
    @DDZTDD Před 9 lety +4

    this whole thing is so amazing!
    After watching Yale course mid age history, I got interested and deadly wanted something some videos like these. Thanks for sharing this with us!

  • @j.d.norcross9362
    @j.d.norcross9362 Před 9 lety +5

    I liked the diagram for the Battle of Dara. It helped me better understand what was going on.

  • @waternapkinvondushenhofen8717

    +Extra Credits I utterly admire the efforts and work you put in those magnificent downloads of historical marvel :) The intriguing and adapted manner in which you deliver the material is evidently delightful

  • @brycevo
    @brycevo Před 5 lety +2

    He hated his boss so much he made a secret diary of how much he thought they were demons

  • @hsnd2388
    @hsnd2388 Před 9 lety +40

    8:17
    So the story is, a Vatican Priest finds a hidden book called _"The Secret History"_, written by Procopius talking about how Justinian is a demon, and his wife is cruel. One of two things are going here: Either Justinian and his wife were cruel and everything detailing how they were good was made up, despite the fact Procopius wrote good things about them, or The Church is doesn't like Justinian for whatever he did and his wife for being a escort.

    • @HIPEOPLE1887
      @HIPEOPLE1887 Před 9 lety +16

      Or it could be Precopius had an issue. As far as I know Justinian was held in high opinion in the west during the 1600s seeing as the west uses his legal code.

    • @hsnd2388
      @hsnd2388 Před 9 lety

      HIPEOPLE1887 Who knows, until Episode 3 we wouldn't know.

    • @hsnd2388
      @hsnd2388 Před 9 lety +9

      ***** I would just like to say that if you want to know about a Pagan ruler or something like that, look in the Vatican's library. Then, take anything they say and think the exact opposite of that.

    • @chaoswarhound
      @chaoswarhound Před 9 lety +17

      gavinrichard ladd Do you really think the Vatican would just make up a book filled with ridiculous and impossible stories to trick people into believing what they want them to? Pfft... thats just crazy talk

    • @priyankarkandarpa4414
      @priyankarkandarpa4414 Před 9 lety

      The secret history was much worse. It is X rated and if made a movie, the R21 would be an understatement

  • @Galistarwater
    @Galistarwater Před 5 lety +4

    I remembered writing my research paper for university about this emperor! I believe mine was on the depiction of Emperor Justinian by Procopius as mentioned near the end of this video, especially the secret history part of the king being a demonic man. Awesome series, you guys. Love your Extra History videos!

  • @ilejovcevski79
    @ilejovcevski79 Před 9 lety

    Guys, i just LOVE your Extra History episodes, but this series about the Byzantine Empire is probably your best one yet! :D
    kudos!!!!

  • @AntimatterPower
    @AntimatterPower Před 9 lety +1

    I love how you just referenced Dune so perfectly! I love your channel even more than before!

  • @FatrickAteman
    @FatrickAteman Před 7 lety +6

    "The rich didn't pay their taxes and the poor couldn't"
    hmmm sounds awfully familiar

  • @Caspar67
    @Caspar67 Před 9 lety +3

    I love this series, I show it to my friends who love history too

  • @anoinks6511
    @anoinks6511 Před 5 lety

    I love how perspective changes EVERYTHING here

  • @BDeerhead
    @BDeerhead Před 9 lety +2

    1:33
    I FUCKING LOVE this idea!

  • @peetertarvas
    @peetertarvas Před 9 lety +4

    Sheet this is like Game of Thrones

  • @Eccentrick218
    @Eccentrick218 Před 5 lety +3

    Make a video on Napoléon Bonaparte!

  • @Evalan321
    @Evalan321 Před 5 lety

    Dudes, this is one of the most awesome channels out there...three cheers, river of mead and honey...and I also have a teeny request... Could you guys make a series on scientists/philosophers/thinkers? Like the life and death of Archimedes? That's be soooo cooool...

  • @annlimjoco
    @annlimjoco Před 5 lety

    I always wondered how I could keep learning about history after required courses in university since I'm still busy with post-grad in a different field.
    I'm definitely hooked on these series!!! Hope you could do a series on Nero!!!

  • @Dalpima
    @Dalpima Před 9 lety +6

    Always never eat candy on Sundays....
    Maybe.

  • @heavymetla666
    @heavymetla666 Před 9 lety +4

    These things are so awesome that they should be thirty minutes long.

  • @briankasper7946
    @briankasper7946 Před 8 lety +2

    Extra Credits,
    I love your history videos well done! You all make history so fun and interesting. Do you think you all will ever make some videos on the decline and Fall of Rome, that would make some awesome and educational videos; anyways keep up the good work!

  • @Cosminen
    @Cosminen Před 9 lety +1

    These are so good!! :) I just wish they would be out more often

  • @AnguishedDead
    @AnguishedDead Před 6 lety +10

    Who else came back here from episode 2 of Khosrau rehear the Roman side of this war?

  • @Zatiels
    @Zatiels Před 7 lety +144

    I actually rather watch this then Netflix or Anime =_=

  • @fatmanfalling
    @fatmanfalling Před 9 lety +1

    I am so glad Extra History is weekly

  • @cadeheaton7253
    @cadeheaton7253 Před 9 lety

    I love this history series. You do excellent work!

  • @mutopis
    @mutopis Před 9 lety +11

    "torturing rich people to pay taxes"
    you know, that doesnt sound like a bad idea.

  • @aaronpaul9188
    @aaronpaul9188 Před 8 lety +41

    Belisarius is not a napoleon or a Alexander. Nor is he a Hannibal. That is not an insult, he is very firmly a tear below those men. He is a Eugene, Prince of Savoy, a Julius Ceaser, Suvorov, or Tourenne, or Conde. Those are some of the greatest generals to ever live. The difference between those men, and a Napoleon, an Alexander, or a Genghis Khan, is that the former were some of the best who lived, the latter changed warfare to the point where they were simply not playing by the same rules as anyone else.

    • @aaronpaul9188
      @aaronpaul9188 Před 7 lety +9

      Dean Cutler I mentioned how, a napoleon, Alexander or others changed how battles and wars were fought. Those men changed the understandings of war. Julius Ceaser just did amazing things with the playbook that had existed.

    • @aaronpaul9188
      @aaronpaul9188 Před 7 lety +4

      Dean Cutler The battle of Alesia was very very good engineering and excellent command staff, right down to army NCOs. He won due to superior engineering and army structure that enabled him to maneuver his army to counter treats rapidly, engaging larger percentages of this troops than his adversary. Thats impressive, but as much a victory of Marius as Ceaser.
      Alexander all but invented the cavalry charge, a tactic that would dominate western military tradition until machine guns. True Phillip II reformed the Phalanx compared to the greek one, but it was alexander brought tactics and innovation to levels never before seen.
      Hannibal managed a double envelopment of a numerically superior force. That probably should not be possible.
      Napoleon changed pretty much everything about how was were fought, and gave birth to modern military organization.

    • @sophiejones7727
      @sophiejones7727 Před 7 lety +7

      nah, actually the reason why the comparison is stupid is that Alexander, Hannibal, Genghis Khan and Napoleon were all active political leaders at the same time that they were generals.
      The comparison with Alexander comes to mind, because their attitudes are similar. Belisarius is asking himself "how do I break this army?" not "how do I kill the enemy?" In this he is very like Alexander: but in this he was also like every general at his time. The other way in which he is behaving like Alexander is in his willingness to change the terrain of the battlefield to his advantage. But the way he does it is completely different, because in one way his attitude is different from Alexander's. Alexander viewed his army as a hammer and an anvil. Belisarius however views his army as a net and trident. Instead of trying to crush the opposing army between the parts of his army: Belisarius is laying a clever trap for his opponent, and then when he's got them entangled he goes for the kill. Remember that Alexander's hammer-and-anvil attitude, is the playbook at the time of Belisarius. Belisarius is actually rewriting the playbook of his time in this battle.

    • @azelfdaboi5265
      @azelfdaboi5265 Před 5 lety

      @@worsethanjoerogan8061 He doesnt mean about changing strategies, he means about how good they were on the field
      on the field, he was easily a rival of any of the great generals who are so famous

    • @JP-rf8rr
      @JP-rf8rr Před 5 lety +3

      @@aaronpaul9188
      Julius Caesar did things completely out of the play book, things never done before.
      Who else built a fort around his enemy's fort?

  • @direvus
    @direvus Před 9 lety

    The visual illustration of the battle of Dara was really well done, my Total War brain was easily able to understand the way the battle unfolded. Nice!

  • @yodog1446
    @yodog1446 Před 9 lety +2

    I just got a promotion at work and I think I might spend some of that on supporting Extra History!

  • @hsnd2388
    @hsnd2388 Před 9 lety +16

    So... Basically you're sayng John the Cappadocian is Blunt, and Tribonian is Walpole... makes sense, after all, we here all know Walpole is behind everything.

    • @labrynianrebel
      @labrynianrebel Před 9 lety +2

      gavinrichard ladd Walpole is secretly immortal

    • @topnotchshinobi
      @topnotchshinobi Před 9 lety +3

      gavinrichard ladd Makes me want to write an Extra Credits fanfic where Walpole builds a time machine to visit all the other Extra Credits episodes, changing their events to his liking behind the scenes.

    • @hsnd2388
      @hsnd2388 Před 9 lety +3

      Michael Shan Go on ahead. However, you'll have to be very creative to explain why Walpole would want to have Tokugawa Ieyasu be in control of Japan.

    • @topnotchshinobi
      @topnotchshinobi Před 9 lety +4

      gavinrichard ladd When Walpole entered the Sengoku Jidai period, he already knew that Nobunaga would become a major player in the events to come (he "cheated" by stealing a 21st century textbook and reading up on the Sengoku Jidai era beforehand). He started sending anonymous letters with useful bits of advice (and tactics) to Nobunaga, asking for money in return (Walpole was hoping to send the money that he had collected over his various travels to his future self, in hopes it would have accumulated tons of compound interest over the centuries). The arrangement worked out at first, but when Nobunaga started getting greedy (paying Walpole progressively less as time went on), Walpole was furious. It was his bribing (and goading) that motivated Mitsuhide to betray Nobunaga at Honnoji; and when Mitsuhide demanded a bigger payment than was initially promised, Walpole retaliated by secretly sending a messenger to Hideyoshi. Anyway, I still haven't figured out how or why Walpole picks Tokugawa Ieyasu instead of Hideyoshi as his puppet ruler/ally; it's a work in progress.

    • @hsnd2388
      @hsnd2388 Před 9 lety +2

      Michael Shan You're a natural, that took you only 40 minutes at max to come up with that! Also, try to add on the bits of stuff that would have gotten most people, like the time Tokugawa managed to hold out a castle with only 5 men.

  • @croikar
    @croikar Před 9 lety +7

    Talking about Belisarius right after The Last Roman campaign came out? Coincidence, I think not!

    • @julianogodoy964
      @julianogodoy964 Před 9 lety +8

      croikar Extra History DID start sponsored by Total War:Rome

  • @nedpeters8408
    @nedpeters8408 Před 9 lety

    I hope this one goes on for a while; so far it might be my favorite Extra History.

    • @priyankarkandarpa4414
      @priyankarkandarpa4414 Před 9 lety

      Ned Peters It will. There is just too much to put into five episodes: Justinian's constructions, his war with the Vandals, his diplomacy and wars with the Ostrogoths, the Persian invasion of Syria, the sack of Antioch, the Plague, the empire's gradual reconstruction, Totila and the Ostrogoth revolts, the eunuch Narses, Theodora and her death in 548 *spoiler* and a Kutrigur invasion in 559. Sounds like a lot, no? Well each deserves its own episode ;-)

  • @AJ-et3vf
    @AJ-et3vf Před 2 lety

    Awesome video! Thank you!

  • @gamecaesar6743
    @gamecaesar6743 Před 9 lety +5

    Can you Guys PLEASE make an extra history series about THE napoleonic empire

  • @samramdebest
    @samramdebest Před 9 lety +6

    4:27 yes really brilliant

  • @danielziltener7195
    @danielziltener7195 Před 6 lety

    I was always intrigued by Justinian. Thanks for this. :)

  • @ianmoore3470
    @ianmoore3470 Před 6 lety

    The great thing about this channel is they can cover both sides of a war and make you root for whoever's side they are talking about

  • @Pingthescribe
    @Pingthescribe Před 9 lety +13

    I'd like to know how and where the Byzantines recruited the Huns. I thought they disappeared from history after Attila's reign.

    • @priyankarkandarpa4414
      @priyankarkandarpa4414 Před 9 lety +4

      Ping For the hundedth time, it was of Byzantine state and society to recruit people from the frontiers. Yes, the Huns were now a virtually non-existent force at the time, but there were smaller groups of them in existence. So its kind of like the Vikings; after 1000 they were non-existent in Europe but William the Conqueror was a Viking because he belonged to a Viking fief in northern France

    • @infamousempire8302
      @infamousempire8302 Před 6 lety

      There were some scattered left over tribes that sometimes tried to reclaim attila's legacy (and utterly failed because Attila was a genius and these people weren't)

  • @CommissarWallace
    @CommissarWallace Před 9 lety +12

    Belisarius is the Walpole of Byzantium.

    • @hsnd2388
      @hsnd2388 Před 9 lety +3

      CommissarWallace He _is_ Walpole.

    • @priyankarkandarpa4414
      @priyankarkandarpa4414 Před 9 lety +1

      CommissarWallace Belisarius is, as portrayed in the Secret History, a weak-minded and loyal guy who wasn't your power-hungry leader. Theodora is Walpole

    • @CommissarWallace
      @CommissarWallace Před 9 lety +3

      Priyankar Kandarpa The Secret History is a very spurious document, which some have dated to after Procopius's death.
      Also, weak-minded is not something one can apply to Belisarius. He was poised to become a new Western Emperor after his Italian campaigns, and is aptly called 'the last roman' for his great loyalty in not betraying Justinian.

    • @priyankarkandarpa4414
      @priyankarkandarpa4414 Před 9 lety

      CommissarWallace Kind of. Though *spoiler alert* his actions in Ravenna in 540 (when Justinian told him to return because the Persians were about to sack Antioch) wasn't as diplomatic.

    • @priyankarkandarpa4414
      @priyankarkandarpa4414 Před 9 lety

      Priyankar Kandarpa Yeah and the S.H. is messed up

  • @PJDonoghue
    @PJDonoghue Před 9 lety +1

    Fantastic content as usual!

  • @PaulGaither
    @PaulGaither Před 9 lety

    I look forward to these every week.

  • @HoboTango
    @HoboTango Před 8 lety +6

    If you want to step foot in Belasarius, play Attila : Total war ; The last Roman :)

  • @Sylocat
    @Sylocat Před 9 lety +41

    1:33
    That would not make him less popular with me.

    • @JaytleBee
      @JaytleBee Před 9 lety +3

      ***** I'm sorry if this is a stupid question, but you're not *serious*, right? There's some weird people on the internet...

    • @BlaxeFrost-X
      @BlaxeFrost-X Před 9 lety +6

      JaytleBee von Miraus think that it was centuries ago when torture wasn't wrong just bad, and, he was torturing those rich men who never paid their taxes

    • @VintageLJ
      @VintageLJ Před 9 lety +3

      ***** That's because your a horrible person.
      :)

    • @BlaxeFrost-X
      @BlaxeFrost-X Před 9 lety +6

      VintageLJ i think that is because he's not rich XD

    • @dLzzzgaming
      @dLzzzgaming Před 6 lety +1

      Right, because right and wrong are dependant on time and if people are doing it commonly or not, right? ... freakin idiots on the internet..

  • @natewhite192
    @natewhite192 Před 9 lety +1

    These videos make my Saturday

  • @Ethnod
    @Ethnod Před 9 lety +1

    Awesome work guys, loving this series... well I love them all lol ;)

  • @MarquisForneus
    @MarquisForneus Před 9 lety +81

    The use of the pentagram is kinda inaccurate, it was originally a Christian symbol and has only been used by Neo-Pagans, not the original ones.

    • @Jensaw101
      @Jensaw101 Před 9 lety +4

      Marquis Forneus I thought it was a symbol of Venus. I have only heard as much in rumor and hearsay though, so I very well may be wrong.

    • @infernocop1009
      @infernocop1009 Před 9 lety +23

      Marquis Forneus "original pagans" is a strange term to use, since at the time "pagan" was a catch-all for any non-christians. I'm sure there's SOME group out there that used a pentagram. It isn't a very complicated shape.

    • @patrickfilion7950
      @patrickfilion7950 Před 9 lety +14

      They probably used it because most people associate that symbol with paganism. Wait for the lies episode, it's probably going to say it.

    • @MarquisForneus
      @MarquisForneus Před 9 lety +5

      Inferno Cop No, it was not a catch all term, It was only used to describe polytheistic Religions, very broad I know, but not all catching.

    • @DrKhallos
      @DrKhallos Před 9 lety

      Patrick Filion Lies episode?

  • @voldlifilm
    @voldlifilm Před 6 lety +5

    Who else came here from the Khosrau videos to freshen up on Justinian?

  • @sallylee4924
    @sallylee4924 Před 6 lety

    That battle is incredibly well explained.

  • @selenabaozi
    @selenabaozi Před 7 lety +1

    Your portrayal of Justinian is so spot on it, it makes it easier for me to understand lol

  • @MarcieParcie
    @MarcieParcie Před 6 lety +7

    Hello commenter. I see you decided to rewatch justinius's story after he appeared in an extra history about the persians

  • @rjfaber1991
    @rjfaber1991 Před 9 lety +4

    Nice map at 4:01, Extra Credits, but you have no idea what you're bringing onto yourself by mentioning the Bulgars...

  • @dem5571
    @dem5571 Před 5 lety

    We've learned about this at school but these videos help me understand more things that 10 years of school thought me

  • @HumanRights4Everyone
    @HumanRights4Everyone Před 8 lety +2

    HBO should make a series about Justinian & Theodora

  • @bradford7765
    @bradford7765 Před 9 lety +4

    How do we know that Secret History was really written by Procopius? If he did write it, doesn't it invalidate his other writings?

    • @rjfaber1991
      @rjfaber1991 Před 9 lety +4

      Bradford Makara In an age where the death penalty was excessively common, and being a historian that was actually employed and paid by people in the highest echelons of Byzantine society, I entirely understand why he would not publicly commit lèse-majesté...

  • @TheZoobZoobs
    @TheZoobZoobs Před 7 lety +3

    is the persian king referred to here the same Khasrow from later episodes?

    • @bkjeong4302
      @bkjeong4302 Před 5 lety

      Either him or his father (that family has their own series, where Justinian is a bad guy)

  • @The4x4truckerman
    @The4x4truckerman Před 8 lety

    Love the videos, just gained a subscriber

  • @surgeonsergio6839
    @surgeonsergio6839 Před 3 lety +2

    4:58 Now I can't stop imagining Xerxes kicking Dilios, screaming " *THIS IS PERSIAAAAAAA!!!!!!* "

  • @gabrielajo2972
    @gabrielajo2972 Před 6 lety +6

    “The rich would avoid their taxes, and the poor would just pay.”
    Oh, that sounds familiar.

  • @ebaeba6640
    @ebaeba6640 Před 9 lety +4

    :P No Narses? You better talk about Narses in the future :P.
    Also Procopius probably skipped writing his primary patron's flaws, so we have a bit rosier a view of Belasarius then the man probably warranted.
    Also using the term immortals always makes me cringe a little as a historian. It is such a poor translation that gets foisted on any and every group of royal or household troops within every persian empire. Herodotus made the term up (or mistranslated a Persian translation of a greek term for royal/household troops, eg companions) to describe Archaemenid persian household troops and then added some flavor to them. Also it is a bit ambiguous in the video, but the Zhayeden (immortals) are heavy cavalry, while the traditional achaemenid 'immortals' were heavy infantry.

  • @julien1055
    @julien1055 Před 5 lety

    I’m actually doing a school report on Belisarius so
    Thanks bro.
    Also I’m in 6th grade and i know more about history than other people. Thanks to you. Keep up the good work.

  • @8calcifer
    @8calcifer Před 9 lety

    I love extra history, it's a fantastic series