Worked out nicely in the end... 1990-91 was my favourite season as a Wednesday fan... beautiful football promotion and beat man u in the league cup final...then the big man turned judas and pissed off to villa... first game of the season for Wednesday?...yep you guessed it big fat rons aston villa at Hillsborough 😂...we gave him a lovely welcome but he had the last laugh... they came back from 2-0 down to win 3-2....can remember it all like yesterday
TBH, I can’t really see how Sheffield Wednesday had a valid claim to be re-instated back in The First Division. For they’d been relegated at the end of the 1989-90 season (maybe unluckily) under the “normal” rules, and thus had had no involvement at all in the play-offs. For this matter was surely was surely a play-off issue first and foremost. Therefore, if you’re going to demote the actual play-off final winners, then surely the logical replacement is the play-off final runners-up, in this case when Sunderland replaced Swindon? All a matter of speculation I guess, but also of course now all "water under the bridge" as it were.
The play offs should never have started in the first place, the 2nd thing is it was the play offs so got nothing to do with Sheff w. If that Swindon had been in London they would have got away with it !, QPR, Spurs, WHU just to name a few. Anyhow SAFC do deserve something for the utter rubbish we have had to put up with for the last 46 years, and even now lanuashing in the 3rd tier of football because of amature owners and it is still going on.
I seem to recall that Sheff Wed were never in a relegation position that season until the end of the final day's fixtures. They were never going to get a reprieve after Swindon's demotion. The Football League were determined to uphold their new and still controversial play off system. When the play off winners were disqualified they gave their place to the play off runners up. That's why Sunderland went up.
@@jennytaylor415 Yes I agree 100%. Sheff Wed were relegated fair and square. I wasn't voicing any opinion on the subject, I was just explaining the reasoning behind the Football League's decision to promote Sunderland rather than give Sheff Wed a reprieve. The Football League had made their decision about Swindon not being allowed to go up before the play off semi finals had even taken place. They were desperately hoping any team but Swindon would win the play offs so they could avoid a messy situation. They had also decided beforehand that if Swindon did win the play offs then who ever the beaten finalists were would go up instead. I was told all of this some months after it happened by the then president of the Football League who I was casually acquainted with at the time.
Firstly they should have relegated Sunderland,then with the major issue sorted out they could have tossed a coin between Swindon Town and Sheff. Wed.In fact most football matters could be sorted out by just relegating Sunderland.
@Tom D actually I don't think any of them were murder that's my fucking point! And why are u assuming I'm a man utd fan!? I took exception at your use of the word murder, which is clearly bullshit as u still haven't said anything to back it up. Not sure how u know I'm a habitual liar from this exchange but I know that u are slightly unhinged. Now piss off
@Tom D lies!? What lies!? You're the one casting wild accusations of murder around! Get over it and move on ffs. I look forward to your response as I realise I'll never get the last word in with a gobshite like u have a nice life.
Taffy Machen you are 100 percent right Sunderland are a lot bigger club then swfc better stadium. Bigger support. More trophies richer history the top league will be better with them in it.and yes they are a bigger Draw
@@jennytaylor415 Tin pot. 😀What division are you in. Dipshit.? 😀 Or are we picking any era that suits, to strengthen your argument.? The old 'my club's bigger than your club' insecure bollocks.Go and have a lie down.
@@kennethdodd5924 it's not a come down. Just tell us why Sunderland are not bigger than Wednesday I can't think of any reason to believe Wednesday are a bigger than average club. It's just deluded thinking they are
There is only one reason Sunderland got the promotion spot after Swindon's disqualification. The Football League were determined to uphold their new and still controversial play off system. When the play off winners were demoted they gave their place to the play off runners up, simple as that. It didn't matter who the play off runners up were, that was the team going up. It was all about supporting the play off system. The Sunderland board knew before the play off final that they were going up regardless of the result.
1:05 "you have to be careful what you say", well done Ron!!!
Worked out nicely in the end... 1990-91 was my favourite season as a Wednesday fan... beautiful football promotion and beat man u in the league cup final...then the big man turned judas and pissed off to villa... first game of the season for Wednesday?...yep you guessed it big fat rons aston villa at Hillsborough 😂...we gave him a lovely welcome but he had the last laugh... they came back from 2-0 down to win 3-2....can remember it all like yesterday
The games v villa also cost you the title as well 😂
@@natureclips5849 it's the games against the pigs that hurt more..we lost both...
Ossie pulling a Bond villain impression........
TBH, I can’t really see how Sheffield Wednesday had a valid claim to be re-instated back in The First Division. For they’d been relegated at the end of the 1989-90 season (maybe unluckily) under the “normal” rules, and thus had had no involvement at all in the play-offs. For this matter was surely was surely a play-off issue first and foremost. Therefore, if you’re going to demote the actual play-off final winners, then surely the logical replacement is the play-off final runners-up, in this case when Sunderland replaced Swindon? All a matter of speculation I guess, but also of course now all "water under the bridge" as it were.
Swindon shouldn't have been denied their 1st Division place.
The play offs should never have started in the first place, the 2nd thing is it was the play offs so got nothing to do with Sheff w. If that Swindon had been in London they would have got away with it !, QPR, Spurs, WHU just to name a few. Anyhow SAFC do deserve something for the utter rubbish we have had to put up with for the last 46 years, and even now lanuashing in the 3rd tier of football because of amature owners and it is still going on.
Has Ron got over it yet?
I seem to recall that Sheff Wed were never in a relegation position that season until the end of the final day's fixtures. They were never going to get a reprieve after Swindon's demotion. The Football League were determined to uphold their new and still controversial play off system. When the play off winners were disqualified they gave their place to the play off runners up. That's why Sunderland went up.
Any team that finishes in the relegation places should go down its as simple as that .
@@jennytaylor415 Yes I agree 100%. Sheff Wed were relegated fair and square. I wasn't voicing any opinion on the subject, I was just explaining the reasoning behind the Football League's decision to promote Sunderland rather than give Sheff Wed a reprieve. The Football League had made their decision about Swindon not being allowed to go up before the play off semi finals had even taken place. They were desperately hoping any team but Swindon would win the play offs so they could avoid a messy situation. They had also decided beforehand that if Swindon did win the play offs then who ever the beaten finalists were would go up instead. I was told all of this some months after it happened by the then president of the Football League who I was casually acquainted with at the time.
What they should of done is a winner takes all Wednesday v Sunderland match that's the answer
@@RubyMarkLindMilly on the monies. Now that would of been the most sensible way to complete this
@@RubyMarkLindMilly sould have.
Firstly they should have relegated Sunderland,then with the major issue sorted out they could have tossed a coin between Swindon Town and Sheff. Wed.In fact most football matters could be sorted out by just relegating Sunderland.
Typical fucking mag 🖕obsessed why are you even watching this 🤣🤣
Typical backward Geordie
That shirt
@Tom D explain how it was murder
@Tom D I'm neither. And u still haven't described an act of murder.
@Tom D you haven't got a clue what you're talking about. Out of interest, was Heysels murder too?
@Tom D actually I don't think any of them were murder that's my fucking point! And why are u assuming I'm a man utd fan!? I took exception at your use of the word murder, which is clearly bullshit as u still haven't said anything to back it up. Not sure how u know I'm a habitual liar from this exchange but I know that u are slightly unhinged. Now piss off
@Tom D lies!? What lies!? You're the one casting wild accusations of murder around! Get over it and move on ffs. I look forward to your response as I realise I'll never get the last word in with a gobshite like u have a nice life.
Oz speaks how his attackers played......can’t finish
Taffy Machen you are 100 percent right Sunderland are a lot bigger club then swfc better stadium. Bigger support. More trophies richer history the top league will be better with them in it.and yes they are a bigger Draw
No they arnt.
@@kennethdodd5924 Sunderland are and has been far bigger than an average championship club tinpot swfc
@@jennytaylor415 Tin pot. 😀What division are you in. Dipshit.? 😀 Or are we picking any era that suits, to strengthen your argument.? The old 'my club's bigger than your club' insecure bollocks.Go and have a lie down.
@@jennytaylor415 Quite a comedown from your original post.
@@kennethdodd5924 it's not a come down. Just tell us why Sunderland are not bigger than Wednesday I can't think of any reason to believe Wednesday are a bigger than average club. It's just deluded thinking they are
What this isn’t about Newcastle lol ha ha
Poor little piggies. Still got the front page of the green in from may 5th 1990. Blades up Wednesday down ha ha ha.
Share the trauma !!!!
Atkinson is a prat.
Atkinson is a lot more than that most of the club's he has managed have gave him money. But what has he won in a 50 year career not that much really
Stop crying Ron. They promoted us as we were the bigger draw ....
I agree it was a no braina
There is only one reason Sunderland got the promotion spot after Swindon's disqualification. The Football League were determined to uphold their new and still controversial play off system. When the play off winners were demoted they gave their place to the play off runners up, simple as that. It didn't matter who the play off runners up were, that was the team going up. It was all about supporting the play off system. The Sunderland board knew before the play off final that they were going up regardless of the result.
@@charliepeebles2531 ok what ever
@@jennytaylor415 True story as related to me by the then president of the Football League in late 1990.
@@charliepeebles2531 yes I know it was a 2 division side that had to play in the top league. It was only right the worst sides went down.