Lives of Idols: Trainees
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- čas přidán 30. 03. 2021
- Ever wondered what it takes to be a K-Pop idol? This documentary takes a look at the super-competitive, ultra-hard-working, grueling lifestyle for those who wanna take the plunge and become a K-Pop superstar. With appearances from SUPER JUNIOR, Wonder Girls, KARA, Ha:tfelt, Sandara Park (2NE1), (G)I-DLE, and PENTAGON.
0:00 How To Become An Idol
1:27 Building A New Girl Group
5:15 Evaluations
9:02 The Emotional Toll
11:55 Endless Rehearsing
15:04 Gambling Your Life Away
17:06 The Terrible Price Of Fame
20:58 ⚠️ TRIGGER: SUICIDE ⚠️
22:17 Dealing With PTSD - Zábava
Kpop fans be like "idols are humans too!" And then proceed to criticize lipsyncing, hating on kpop idols for not having stable voice while dancing, and being mad over a single wrong move
And criticized their appearance and weight
Exactly so hypocrite
It's okay to give idols constructive criticism, they need to know where they are doing well and which needs improvement. But if you don't like them then just leave them alone, don't leave malicious comments.
Also when they notice someone gaining weight and then they shows concerns once that idol loses drastic weight.
Idol fans can be really scary.
Aw the story about that STAYC/Highup Entertainment trainee Kim Minjung was sad. She dropped out of high school and didn't even end up debuting with STAYC. I hope she can find another company, she's cute
true 🥲🥲🥲
+ she was in produce101, she wants to be an idol since a really long time 😢😢
the pretty taiwanese girl got dropped too.. harsh
@@Queen-dl5ju ikr she could be famous if she debuted with the other girls
@@Queen-dl5ju I read somewhere that because of the pandemic she returned to Taiwan, so she missed her debut
That guys straight up said that public doesn't see idols as people..... Everybody knows and understands how toxic people can be towards the idols but still it is so prevalent. Your fav or not, treat them all with respect.
exactly! I always have a fav but I will always respect the others.
Exactly!
I agree with you, that's so difficult
But not only the public,many companies see idols as products that they can exploit or replace
@@sebassm8318 yes I know
They are human, just like us. Rest in peace Goo Hara, Sulli, Jonghyun. 😭❤️💐
GIDLE hwaiting!🏰💜
Yess
Yes
@@user-qs1ip7dd8e what do you mean by this comment? Do you mean we shouldn't worry or feel bad for idols? That these idols who passed away shouldn't have people feeling bad for them cuz they ""gave up""?
@@user-qs1ip7dd8e tf? So that makes it ok what people say to and about these idols??? Also this stuff puts idols into debt and also contracts make it where you can't leave
Seeing the Taiwanese trainee studying Korean in the down time in hopes of debuting and to ultimately not, was really heart breaking to see. She's cute, I hope she gets her chance.
she couldn't make it because of some visa issues and the pandemic situation
:’(
@@GON-lu4me so sadge 😥😥
@@GON-lu4me Why isn't she's in Korea now while being a trainee in highup??
@@kissmet8 When pandemic broke out, She came back to Taiwan. I don't know why exactly, That's what she chose then
Trainees sacrifices their youth, education and family. Trains hard all day long, everyday for years in numerous fields like singing, dancing, language, variety skills, interview skills and plenty more. And they are doing all of that for free without even the guarantee of debuting and even if they do debut success is still not guaranteed. So be kinder to our idols and appreciate them more, don't make life even harder for them.
Yes We need support all the members
It is not for free for the large majority of trainees, just a deferred payments(at an expensive interest rate) where companies require payment if you do not debut and cancel your contract, and if you do debut, they will withhold idol pay and take revenue until the payment has been covered. Companies are often not transparent about fees and what the debt pay off plan is upon debut. SM has plans to start monetizing their training too, and I'm sure if that's successful other companies with follow too.
@@KindaJadedish i believe some companies especially the big 3 and probably bighit too don't make their trainees pay after they debut and if they want to end their contract
@@KindaJadedishmost trainees actually do not have to pay a debt if they are dropped from the company and sometimes the company will help them look for another company to train and transfer them. But if the trainee choose to drop out on their own, it is considered as a breach of contract and theyll have to pay the relevant fees.
Also yg idols do not have to pay for their trainee debt after debut.
Gidle being all smiley in the thumbnail is so freaking CUTE
My thoughts too
I clicked immediately, lol.
I miss soojin
Shut up who cares about that? All those k-pop idols are humans to and i wanna debut to when im 16 and im gonna debut with my friend
@@simplyidontcare_gaming4834 so they can't be cute? Because their human?
"Fame. It means you're loved by people. It's a really dangerous thing, fame. It's a bubble and it's nothing, but it looks like it's something. A bubble, when you touch it, it bursts. I hope they know that. If they don't have another goal after becoming famous, they'll become depressed."
this needs to be shown to every fan...ur idol is human..there is no PERFECT idol..so be respectful even if a certain group is not ur bias..you can only see what they do on TV, you have no idea what they go through behind the cameras
true. i hope every fan know this
And not only the fans, but also their companies.
no one ask them to be idol ... the lot of money and manipulation for that ...
We know and sadly not every fan knows this, it breaks my heart when i see some nasty kpop fans
@@lunamoon4880 wdym? They become idols because they wanna be idols
(G)I-DLE fighting, let get through this difficult times together, excited for LAST DANCE tomorrow
The focus on Rado, the HighUp staff and STAYC during their pre-debut training period was very nice. Felt bad for the Lydia and Min Jung knowing that they didn’t make it in the end and hope they are doing well now.
I am a big fan of Stayc, this showed their true personality, without the glossy sheen of poppy happiness. I appreciate that, especially the conversation that Chae young and Sumin have.
The most unpredictable reason was Chien-Chien... just because of visa issues, she can't join rehearsal + final evaluation...
that guy at 24:21-24:24 was so damn creepy. he giving me bad vibes. i mean like some of these girls are underage like bruhhhhhh
When sumin talked to isa.. I can tell how much they were suffering. And they were trying their best not to cry. And i can tell sumin really cares about them. And Isa is such a great listener.
What were they talking about exactly? Please give me some context
@@applicorn1351 I WROTE THIS COMMENT a month ago. i think they were talking about how hard it is to be a trainee and how she wants to debut.
@@applicorn1351 it’s starts around this area 21:10
Thats why they looked familiar they where stayc i thought i sae sumin,isa,chieun (i think thats her name i just started being a stayc fan)and more of the members!
so happy that STAYC is getting attention now and slowly getting successful
Thank you for having Pentagon and Cube’s artists.
that guy at 24:21-24:24 was so damn creepy. he giving me bad vibes. i mean like some of these girls are underage like bruhhhhhh
But Cube didn't let CLC participate. I wonder why...
I don’t listen to Kpop but watching this makes me think like wow they really deserve the fame they get
that guy at 24:21-24:24 was so damn creepy. he giving me bad vibes. i mean like some of these girls are underage like bruhhhhhh
@@jess_jessica bruh. he was watching over them 😐
@@zenntune i see i see. sorry i guess i was feelin' overprotective over the girls and was overreacting
@@jess_jessica yeah i understand. StayC 4ever 💖
@@jess_jessicaI'm super late but High Up Ent is one the best agencies I've ever known. They seem genuinely taking care of Stayc and girls are always super thankful for them.
My respect for Rado-nim/B.E.P and High Up entertainment went all the way up. I'm a new Stayc stan and they seem treating Stayc so genuinely well. One of the few agencies who really take care of their employees. Salute!
I really liked this one because they actually touched on stuff that other docs haven't really shown which is the mental and physical stress it puts on trainees and idols. Even if you don't like a group or specific members it's better just to keep your opinions to yourself because you never know what they are going through.
Sometimes when I hear idols talk about the things they went through before debuting and the trainees who didn't get to debut really make me feel bad for them, I just want to talk to them and give them a hug (platonically)
Me too evaluation is one of the scariest thing in life too especially pass or out back then when Seungri, T.O.P, Daesung, Jiyong (GD), Youngbae (Taeyang), Hyunseung (Beast) when they're on training back then especially YHS was still there for evaluation too 🤢😧
International fans will complain that knetz are horrible then act the exact same way, if not worse. All idols present their best side, but they're human and will make mistakes. They deserve to learn and grow, not be constantly harassed by strangers on the internet and be subjected to lies and rumors after a slip-up. These are real lives that are being messed with.
I agree with you it very hard the live of the idols
And people how toxic these days & uneducated 💔😠😡
@@visualbeauty3427 Í know this is very annoyed
I get your point, but I think that Korean fans are a lot harsher on idols, just because of their way of thinking and how Korean culture is. As one of the journalists said in one of the previous episodes: "idols are a reflection of Korean society, they just want to see the best of the best". And as a result (from my point of view as a Westerner) they demand those levels of perfection, they are not humans for them, they are idols.
@@lil_loonatic4237 sounds stupid
The fact that some of the girls in the scenes shown in the video actually debuted in the girl Group known as 'STAYC'
This is not news to anyone familiar with the group or kpop in general.
@@userkmunhwaock ok and what did your comment add?
STAYC GIRLS, ITS GOING DOWN 💯
one of the most catchy sayings in kpop
LMAO the melody is embedded in my head
It really is heartbreaking to see idols suffer. We might think that they signed up for it but I hope everyone agrees that loving your bias should be your focus. Let’s stop fandom wars and stop creating issues which makes our idols suffer. Let’s respect one another. There might be competition but it should be a healty one. No one deserves to suffer.
Ouch 💔☹😔
literally every single one of these idols put so much hard work and dedication into their careers and seeing how so many of them said they thought about just giving up on life really hurts... we really all need to show them so much love and support
People on the internet really needs to stop cancelling idols for stupid reasons. Someone should educate them and make them realize that idols are humans too
Seeing Twice's songs being practiced and looked up to by hardworking trainees who didn't know where it would go rlly hits knowing that they were in the same place years ago🥺
Yes, and having to go through it all while everything is being filmed for a competition show :(
kpop isn't just about your bias. all Korean people contribute to advancing kpop, all the artists are also working hard. for kpop fandom, it is better if we respect each other's artists and fans, stop the fandom wars.
Nadie te pregunto igual
We need support all the members because is very difficult stay in a group with the hardships.
mas dimas not surprized even fanwars since 1st gen until now. 💔
@@skymisoo Uy que le pasa.
@@skymisoo nadie le tiene que preguntar igual.
(G)I-DLE THE LEADERS
that guy at 24:21-24:24 was so damn creepy. he giving me bad vibes. i mean like some of these girls are underage like bruhhhhhh
GIDLE 🥺 I’m so proud of you girls! 💜
It'd heartbreaking to see the predebut team of StayC with the Taiwanese girl and the one that dropped out highschool who weren't able to debut
You just demonstrated something really interesting: the names of both girls are shown when they speak but you can't even remember their names they are just "the Taiwanese girls" and "the one that dropped out" . This is how audiences de-humanize idols and trainees, you forget they are humans with names.
@@stuyvesanth.189 Yo she was just describing as the attributes that caught her attention. Stop getting so heated. I watched this just now but I also couldn't remember their names after watching this once. Calm down
@@stuyvesanth.189 its not that deep
@@stuyvesanth.189 DEHUMANIZE? Lmao. What if the person didn’t catch what their names were in the video? At least they recognized them, and yes, as people, and their struggles! 🤨 I can’t believe so many people liked your comment
@@ejikemeetudo6766 yeah especially cause their names are in a different language too
I’m so proud of Gidle and the amazing group they have become. Every time I saw them I teared up. I love them so much
stan (G)I-dle💗
YAS (G)I-DLE
(G)I_DLE you can go through this, you're so powerful and inspirational !! Love y'all ❤️❤️❤️
Behind your favorite groups and biases, there's MANY trainees who suffers and sacrifices without knowing that in the end they will not be part of the group
I'm so proud of our STAYC girls
Some days ago, I had seen a pretty similar video on Asian Boss. The only difference was that how the trainees were being treated. Over here, HighUp Entertainment is treating their trainees well, everyone looks healthy and energetic, and even the trainer is teaching her students in an appropriate manner. However, in the Asian Boss video, the trainees were being treated harshly, were being scolded and ridiculed by their trainer for making mistakes, and one of the trainees had a mental breakdown, 'cause despite working the hardest, she wasn't able to debut. I hope these agencies keep on treating their trainees in a proper way, 'cause they work really hard to achieve their dreams.
Depends on what company you are especially expenses training, food, apartment, classes, of course shitty people you meet. 💔
우리 스테이씨..♡ 목표를 이루기위해 열심히 앞으로나아가고 끊임없이 연습하는모습이 대단하고 너무예뻐..
앞으로 꽃길만걷자😭🌸
Thank you for the documentary,
Thank you for having Ye-Eun, Joon Park, Amber, (G)I-DLE, etc. They speak with honesty and care.
(G)I-DLE💞💞💞💞💞
My girls (G)I-DLE 💜❤️
Oh wow STAYC. Did not expect to see them here. They are definitely the next big thing and they are coming back soon!
Also, imma cry now seeing Hara. RIP :(
(G)I-DLE 💖
I came here to rewatch GIDLE, but I saw familiar faces and those faces are now debuted as STAYC!!
We love to see Soojin 🖤
(G)I-DLE fighting!!! 🏰
이런거 보면 차라리 잡덕이 많아지는게 한편으로는 안전한것 같기도..경쟁도 완화되고 기본적인 존중과 인터넷 매너의 중요성에 대한 공감대도 넓어질듯
im so proud of stayc
thank you for showing the importance of the pentagon and everyone in the cube thank you
STAYC AND (G)I-DLE FIGHTING!!!!
To be honest im soo proud of stayc... these girls have grown up soo well. Please show them love and support them🌸
(G)I-DLE (G)I-DLE (G)I-DLE (G)I-DLE 💖
that guy at 24:21-24:24 was so damn creepy. he giving me bad vibes. i mean like some of these girls are underage like bruhhhhhh
So this was shot in 2019, STAYC had come a long way to get to where they are now. Makes me appreciate them even more.
(G)I-DLE 💗💜💗💜💗💜
Now that STAYC finally debuted it's up to us now to ensure their success and that they won't fall victim to that occupational disease.
This is STAYC
우리가 만들어지는 스타에 거부감이 없는 이유는 최초의 연습생이 김완선이니까..김완선 무대 한번 보면 재능에 노력이 더해지는게 얼마나 대단한지 알게될걸. 근데 그분 얘기는 다큐에 없네 이수만 연습생 시스템에 영향을 준 최초의 스타인데.
Yes she set the model for the system including being exploited by others and having all her money stolen
Idol contracts and her contracts are completely different. In the 1990s, Korean singers were fooled by a typical Hollywood contract in which money was taken away from their aides. There is no problem like her because idol is a 7-year standard contract. The problem that idols don't get paid these days is due to the negative system of trainee expenses. This is also changing positively as we move on to investment issues that are not burdensome to individuals. The two are completely different cases. I want to correct it because you are interested in K-pop and believe that the tragedy of the past is reaching the present.
I see (G)I-DLE, I clicked! But wait there's also PENTAGON & other artists I love, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS!! 😘😘😘
Gidle💜❤️
(G) I-DLE 🥰💗
that guy at 24:21-24:24 was so damn creepy. he giving me bad vibes. i mean like some of these girls are underage like bruhhhhhh
I really wish Lydia could have joined Stayc. I thought she was so pretty and seemed like she was working really hard. I hope she's able to continue training with High UP and make a debut someday.
Like Ye-eun said, there need to be a system that protect them mentally and even financially. Even the ones that succeed they're too young to manage their finance and need to be protected even from their own family.
I feel bad for the girls that didn’t make it in stayc but I am so proud of them especially seeun knowing she trained for a few months before debut but she looks like she’s a professional stayc are monster rookies!
(G)i-dle ❤️
I bet when this was filmed, Rado was hoping this would help launch the group, not knowing this would be posted at their first comeback...
What is the group's name?? I just stopped at 14:07
@@vittoriasalvia3778 Stayc I think
@@vittoriasalvia3778 they're called STAYC
@@vittoriasalvia3778 Ha ha why not just watch the final 10 minutes ... attention spans :)
Apreciamos todo su esfuerzo STAYC, swith las ama mucho!!
Girls generation said before that if you are not girls generation you won’t understand them.
I hope that fans will respect their favorite artist. I hope they know that their favorite artists are humans too. Nobody is perfect. Even machines malfunction when over used. Fans support the artists. Fans do not own the artists.
bullying people should be stopped
Ps. Companys should treat their artists better
The first minutes of this episode remind me of ryeowook in super junior comeback show when he said he hurt his arm but it's his job to not show us, the fans, the pain (something like this) and it hurt even more :(
thank you for having STAYC as the trainee ❤❤
This video is more important than y'all think. Everybody needs to watch this. Share this and don't stop.
To all those who say " they choose this path they have to bear the consequences "... yall are not only nornalising the toxic kpop industry rules bit being toxic yourself. I bet you are the person who will go on hating an idol to bring up your fav.
I believe that fans are the power to change this heartbreaking part of the kpop industry because we are the consumers so if we press them (high producers and society in general) I'm sure that some things will change. Slowly, we can make a better place to our artists where they can be really human as they are.
this documentary was very important to show us the reality behind the camera of the videos how idols really feel. very necessary to show that idols are also human beings And that they have emotions just like us.
This needs to be seen and understood by many
(G)I-dle queens! They have pass through so much! Neverland will be always with you! ❤💜
What is really sad is that the one of the only times that an idol gets a break is when they do their mandatory military enlistment. I know when Onew, Key and Minho of SHINee were discharged, they looked so healthy and well rested. They were able to get away from being in the public eye 24/7 for 20 months and were able to find their true selves. Key in fact said how he was trying to get Taemin to enlist earlier because of how much rest he was getting being enlisted into the military band. I remember him saying on his welcome back Vlive that the most rest he had ever gotten was in the military. That yeah sure he missed being able to go eat whenever and whatever he wanted and being able to see his fans all the time but at the same time it was really refreshing having a steady schedule instead of having to work 20 hours a day on only 3 hours of sleep.
The female idols don't do military service though. In fact they end up doing all these free gigs to entertain the troops added to their schedule if they become popular...
@@stuyvesanth.189 yes I am well aware of that.
@@stuyvesanth.189 Worked out for Brave Girls though. The military made them huge
@@Threshk That's more marketing mythology than fact actually, but the kind of story audiences like to hear.
The Kpop creation machine should pay for several "retired" K-POP artists to go to college to become licensed mental health therapists so they can come back and help the newer generations. They would understand the 50,000 fans. Football teams in America often have performance therapists on staff and mandate every player use the services so that there is a support network for the mental health. K-Pop machines should create the same concept.
Fans should also pay since they are the ones constantly demanding new content and who have the unrealistic expectations of the performers. Supply responds to demand.
I agree!! I felt heartbroken when that one girl said she felt like the therapist couldn’t understand her because they never went through the things idols have to endure
Tqs for making this vedio. Whenever people write any hate comment I hope that this vedio comes to their mind atleast once.
I think everyone can relate, that in the first 30 seconds of this video you thought of the k-idol group/artist you stan and felt like a proud parent
(G)I-DLE ✨💜
came back here to celebrate the success of STAYC today. Love them!
If that dance instructor was responsible for the choreography in ASAP she's a genius. There's so many details in it that you don't notice until you see it many times.
Now im crying. Soojin, pls be strong.
So glad STAYC songs are getting recognitions these days
It's sad to watch this and sometimes feel that this is labor exploitation only for reaching an unreal perfection.
Yes I agrre
And branding?!
Thank you 🙆♀️🙆♀️ this is very informative for us fans/supporters. Hopefully many fans/supporters of different idols will understand them. And also realize the hardships that idols are also experiencing. Thanks again for this 6 part episodes. 😊😊😊
STAYC ahora es un grupo de chicas muy lindas que ha tenido éxitos en estos años me siento muy orgullosa de ellas y de todo lo que están logrando 😭💗 tienen talentos increíbles cantan y bailan muy hermoso 💗💗💗las amo tanto mis niñas 💗 gracias al esfuerzo que le pusieron lograron cumplir sus sueños 💗💗💗las apoyaré en todo 💗💗💗
아이사가 사실상 멤머 멘탈 케어사였네. 그런데 아이사 멘탈은 누가 챙겨줬을까?..
so great to see stayc here..now they're quite big
I know everyone should definitely see this documentary
Nurture that empathy inside, always being grateful, appreciate others to truly see the humanity in us for every line of work on this earth. If its really that hard for you, i am really sorry for you. Be kind, that is the least we could do.
Thank you for having PENTAGON~~!!
Also, the idol life is indeed harder than it seems, even since trainees everything is like being on the hunger games and each day the competition is getting harder, also all of them work so hard and yet only a few of them receive recognition is quite sad, tbh. whether you like their music or not, always respect their hard work.
They really went through a lot over the years. That is why I could never understand how other people could easily say bad things and spread nonsense rumors about them because they are still humans. It's okay that we have our opinions about them, but not to the extent that we will ruined their life already :((
my heart in pain when i saw (g)i-dle 💔😞
Amber said
"It's "no pain, no gain" but when people get tired, up here gets tired too."
I felt that hit real hard
Jinho and Hui: universe miss you we hope you comeback well and healthy.
Yuto and Yan An: thank you for stay strong even in the hardest moments
For the rest of the members: Thank you for give us amazing songs, for take care each other, for your hard working.
Pentagon fighting, we were always be your universe
중간중간 기들 너무 예쁜거 아니냐며....
So Lydia and Minjung(former PD101 participant) didn't make the cut huh? I mean I would love to see StayC with them but I think the current lineup is just fine and balanced.
20:22 exactly 💯✔
Giving up your education, physical pain, and metally exhaustion is the worst part of this 💔 plus they can't debut unless they are perfect 💔
Si Eun looks so much like Park Bo Young!
Also, yeeun is so smart. All her analogies were really relevant.
my heart aches for yeeun/ ha:tfelt, her tone, her way of elaborating things. it's like her eyes are screaming that kpop is not all pretty and shiny and perfect just like what we see in our screens. as a senior artist, she must have went through a lot and hearing her speak about the hardships of kpop idols/trainees makes my heart yearn to hug her.
(G) I-DLE Fighting!