This Woman Pays Drug Users Not To Have Kids (HBO)
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- For the last 20 years Barbara Harris has driven across the country in a branded RV, advertising her non-profit to drug addicts and alcoholics. Her organization, Project Prevention, pays substance-abusers $300 to get sterilized or put on long-term birth control like the implant, or an IUD. To date, she has paid over 7,000 people, mostly women, to give up their fertility.
By using cash incentives, she feels like she is stopping a problem in it’s tracks. “We're preventing women who are strung out on drugs and alcohol from conceiving a child,” Harris says, “Nobody has a right to force feed any child drugs and then deliver a child that may die or may have lifelong illnesses.”
It seems straightforward enough - but the ethical questions behind Harris program are not. Vice News Tonight caught up with Barbara Harris during her first RV road trip of the summer, where she targets areas where addicts or those who know them hang out and speaks to long-time critics who think Project Prevention may be contributing to the very problems Harris set out to solve two decades ago.
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This woman is a Super Hero!!
As a child of a drug addict I support what this woman is doing 110% These women will likely never be good mothers and innocent kids would end up suffering because they cant stay clean or get their shit together.
Peter Leopold how can this be cruel and evil? These women voluntarily get sterilized and are gifted $300 for there decision. Nobody is forcing them to give up there fertility for a couple hundred. If this service is even an option for them, likely they aren't in the position to have children and be a parent.
KillYourHero92 It's cruel and evil because many of these women are addicted and not in their right frame of mind. $300 to buy some crack for permanent sterilization may seem like a good deal to someone yearning for the next fix, but what happens if they get their shit together?
Her whole argument is reliant on "choice" and "consent," but someone who's drugged up CAN'T make rational decisions.
Daniel I understand your point but I still can't agree with your side. I would prioritize the children in the community over an addicts possible future regrets, IF they get there lives together. The women in the video with 7 kids, she doesn't seem to care if she keeps getting pregnant and doesn't seemed concerned about the ones she has either. I personally see that kind of stuff every day. I think it is one of the worst things, seeing a women use her babies to bribe people for drug money. I can't imagine her program making a huge impact but I'm sure it helps prevent some of that.
Peter Leopold I don't understand how a woman with multiple children is going to have so many regrets later if she becomes sterile. How many kids do you have? Is it enough? Do you even HAVE kids? Do they suffer? Are they hungry? Can YOU care for them properly? Just think for a second before you get on your high horse. These children suffer. They are born without from the get go. Who is going to take care of these poor souls their whole lives? Some need constant medical ATTN & live in a world where they struggle just to eat every day. Absent fathers & a drug addict as a mother. Are you going around taking care of these disabled children & their families? I think not. You're part of the problem if you can't sympathize for these children.
"I don't see why anyone is entitled to have children, frankly. "
You hit the nail on the head. We as humans have some weird obsession with biological offspring. I wish we'd get over this archaic thinking, it's not like we're going to run out of people anytime soon.
I'm black, and to me that woman is a hero. She is not racist.
World Citizen LIAR! Black people DON’T announce that we’re black.
actually a lot of people do, if I say I`m black does that mean I`m not black??
All her kids are black
+Simon András Péter (SimonTheSorcerer) lies I am white and I see many white method addicts in these neighborhoods.very sad life that it is..praying they get well.
+Evette Arispe that meth
As a child of a drug addict, bless this woman. I hardly made it growing up, I couldn't imagine my mom having any more children, I don't think they'd make it.
Miya thankfully she had you,God bless!
Miya sorry that you had to go through Soo much. Glad you made it. Wish you well.
@ miya if you’re mother took her advice, you wouldn’t exist
@@austinadjutant5684 so? she wouldn't know that so how does it matter?
@@elisejackson2854 BRIBING DRUG ADDICTS WITH MONEY TO GIVE UP THERE MOTHERHOOD CHOICES IS SICK AS HELL. SHE WILL BE JUDGED BY GOD! OF COURSE THEY WILL TAKE THE MONEY THEY ARE SICK IN THE HEAD WITH ADDICTION. THERE NEEDS TO BE PROMOTING HEALTHIER LIFESTYLE,MAT DRUG AVAILABILITY, AND SUPPORT FOR THESE ADDICTS/RECOVERING ADDICTS IN HAVING CHILDREN. EVERYONE DESERVES TO HAVE A CHILD, AND I THINK BRIBING THESE POOR WOMEN IS TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THEM AND ROBBING THEM OF MOTHERHOOD. THIS WOMAN IS DISGUSTING AND I HOPE SOMEONE DOES SOMETHING ABOUT IT! SHE WILL END UP BEING HURT BY SOMEONE EVENTUALLY, THIS IS SICK
I work for CPS I'm telling you Barbara is providing a service to all the communities she served.
No you don't
@@jakecarlo7985 BRIBING DRUG ADDICTS WITH MONEY TO GIVE UP THERE MOTHERHOOD CHOICES IS SICK AS HELL. SHE WILL BE JUDGED BY GOD! OF COURSE THEY WILL TAKE THE MONEY THEY ARE SICK IN THE HEAD WITH ADDICTION. THERE NEEDS TO BE PROMOTING HEALTHIER LIFESTYLE,MAT DRUG AVAILABILITY, AND SUPPORT FOR THESE ADDICTS/RECOVERING ADDICTS IN HAVING CHILDREN. EVERYONE DESERVES TO HAVE A CHILD, AND I THINK BRIBING THESE POOR WOMEN IS TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THEM AND ROBBING THEM OF MOTHERHOOD. THIS WOMAN IS DISGUSTING AND I HOPE SOMEONE DOES SOMETHING ABOUT IT! SHE WILL END UP BEING HURT BY SOMEONE EVENTUALLY, THIS IS SICK
If $300 is all it takes they really can not afford a child in the 1st place
@@jessicacole8404 LMAO irrelevant
She's right.. salvador ramos mother was a drug addict. Nikolas cruzs bio mother was a drug addict.. drug addicts shouldn't have kids
I can't believe those women sat there with a straight face and advised that drugs don't harm babies. "Only 3%..." Riiiiiiiiiiight.
I cannot believe we practice eugenism like nazis and advertising it like if it was normal. Drug users are oppressed and if these poor woman are doing babies, it's literally to exist.
@ There's a huge difference in drug users and drug abusers/addicts, responsible use won't impair the general functioning of the mind. Addicts will be a lot more likely to not function properly; decreasing their abilities of being a capable parent.
It's not as harmfull as alcohol is but it's still pretty darn harmfull.
If this were true no one would be able to be prescribed opioids or amphetamines during pregnancy whereas millions of people are and there is no evidence to support that this in any way harms development.
@@roro-mm7cc you realize there is a difference between someone who uses a drug and someone who is addicted to a drug, right? Just asking.
The reporter obviously has never experienced poverty before. The first step out of poverty is not getting pregnant. The lady who provides the cash is offering an incentive for someone who is blasted out of their mind. Having scores of children with no hope for getting clean will only continue to make everyone struggle.
Well now that Roe v Wade was overturned her work is even more important!
you think women who are "blasted out of their mind" have the ability to consent to any of this
"If you believe that these woman should keep conceiving than you should step up and adopt the next one born..."👏👏👏 - this what EVERYONE should think about when planning to conceive.
@SKRIMEO Grow up. What a childish and naive response.
omg yes thank you
@SKRIMEO Of all the sexual aberrations, abstinence is the least practiced.
BRIBING DRUG ADDICTS WITH MONEY TO GIVE UP THERE MOTHERHOOD CHOICES IS SICK AS HELL. SHE WILL BE JUDGED BY GOD! OF COURSE THEY WILL TAKE THE MONEY THEY ARE SICK IN THE HEAD WITH ADDICTION. THERE NEEDS TO BE PROMOTING HEALTHIER LIFESTYLE,MAT DRUG AVAILABILITY, AND SUPPORT FOR THESE ADDICTS/RECOVERING ADDICTS IN HAVING CHILDREN. EVERYONE DESERVES TO HAVE A CHILD, AND I THINK BRIBING THESE POOR WOMEN IS TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THEM AND ROBBING THEM OF MOTHERHOOD. THIS WOMAN IS DISGUSTING AND I HOPE SOMEONE DOES SOMETHING ABOUT IT! SHE WILL END UP BEING HURT BY SOMEONE EVENTUALLY, THIS IS SICK
Drug addicts don't need to have kids 🙄
My dad often says "I have an alcoholic living in me but I don't have another recovery in me." Hes been clean 20+ years. This woman is a saint. Children born to addicts are more likely to be sexually abused and addicted themselves.
Cy Ra oh my goodness 💔
Cy Ra omg I saw the same documentary so sad
I've always heard you're guaranteed another relapse, but not another recovery.
She's right.. salvador ramos mother was a drug addict. Nikolas cruzs bio mother was a drug addict.. drug addicts shouldn't have kids
She is limiting the amount of, disabled or born addicted-to-drugs, babies due to drug-addicted mothers... how hard is that to understand? The reporter is so biased that she's seriously trying to make the woman believe she's in the wrong? Really??
If a woman is in the mindset of prioritizing drugs over whether she will affect her baby with those drugs- she should not be pregnant!
Vivian I agree with you. My family experienced the heartache it causes.
@Alexandra Ledesman "....Most of these women didn't ask to be born into a life of poverty. "
All of these babies did not choose to be born into a life with a drug-addicted mother.
There...FTFY
The rest of your post was tl;dr
Alexandra Ledesman They're not being exterminated by ONE person. And even if they were, it's not eugenics. Drug addicts is too complicated to blame on genes, and so is poverty. Your argument is not good.
@Alexandra Ledesman The first-line defense against poverty is birth control.
Alexandra Ledesman from what I've read from other comments, she only goes to women who already have children(3+) so the 'legacy' part shouldn't be an issue at least
This reporter kind of makes me mad. This isn't like they're being forced to do this. Has this reporter ever seen a baby born addicted to hard drugs? It is ABSOLUTELY abuse!
Desirae Bucholtz She is a journalist. She is doing her job by asking hard questions. Did you want her to coddle her subject?
She keeps trying to take out something negative fro the conversation but she should be thanking her that this angel is helping and healing communities all over someone cares
@@LoverGirlLove1 not asking questions invoking dialogue and debate isn't an interview. If all she did was thank her for her "service" that's also NOT an interview. that would be a puff piece or commercial promoting her "charity". Americans really don't know what journalism is since all American news stations are entirely one-sided. fox news is obviously right and reports things through a right perspective and MSNBC is obviously left and reports through a left perspective. learn some critical thinking skills
This woman is a hero. The Vice attack on her is insulting.
Dj Glass It’s not an “attack,” it’s called journalism.
Vice has gone so far to the left that they are falling off the earth - to suggest that being PC is better than considering the life and suffering of a child born to an addict is completely insane AND immoral. The stats do not lie - there are drug addicts of all races and ethnicities. In addition - even though it is not PC to say - a very high percentage of addicted black women have multiple children with multiple fathers in situations in which they are completely unable to support their children. - Barbara is HELPING them, not oppressing them. Having too many children as an addicted single mother with no means of supporting her children is oppressive - to both her and her children! For her, it is economically oppressive and to her children, it is more often than not emotionally, mentally and physically oppressive.
Not surprised when VICE’s CEO bragged about just wanting to do cocaine and screwing women in bathrooms. It’s journalism for degenerates that think glorifying sex work and drug culture is good journalism. Although I appreciate alternative journalism I don’t take Vice seriously.
@@isabelreyes6387 and what do you have against sex work? All I'm saying is you could make a lot of money if you weren't so uptight
So they want addicts to not have kids permently. Even if the addict shows potential to get clean...i guess thats fine idk but now ur just funding an addict everytime
Why is the interviewer shaming her for not wanting another child
she wasnt shaming her. she was asking questions about if she ever regrets being sterilized. the comment section is really lacking critical thinking skills. classic American education system
The last woman with two healthy children was incredibly lucky. Most people who use during pregnancy aren't. She assumes everyone is as lucky as her kids & can't see the big picture even though she says she cares & works with other drug addicts. How can she be so blind to reality?
And my grandma chained smoked 1 1/2 packs and lived to 90 therefore its okay for everyone!
Rebecca Morris sad thing is.. most women who have children addicted to herion or pills have babies who are absolutely fine.... But mother's who have children on meth or crack have babies that have a lot of problems that is just facts
exactly Jeb (ok in case you can't tell this is sarcastic it is)
Her logic "Well I drank and drive and I didn't hit anyone so drinking and driving isn't a problem"
Because she's stupid.
She's right. Just wish the Vice reporter could stop interjecting her own bias into her questions
Selma she barely asked anything of the other two women, who basically said doing drugs while pregnant doesn’t do anything to your child. This was one of the most biased pieces I’ve seen.
Yah her questions were very one sided. I 100% agree with what the woman is doing to prevent women who don't have their shit together from getting pregnant.
I liked the questions. It was clarifying. perhaps it was one sided but to me that work against the other side not for it. Why is this program racist? Why can't satirized addicts adopt if they clean their lives up? Also if addicts can't give consent about this then if then if they prostitute themselves are the John's rapists?
That’s what Vice does lmao
Trash “journalism”
She's right.. salvador ramos mother was a drug addict. Nikolas cruzs bio mother was a drug addict.. drug addicts shouldn't have kids
If you are not part of the solution, just shush. Bless this woman and her family.
Being part of the solution is also about accepting and listening to outside views and opinions....otherwise, you'd just be Kim Jong
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As a foster to adopted child I am with Barbara Harris 100%. People who do not have the means or stability to have children should simply not have children, and should not subject the unborn to forced drugs or alcohol abuse. Abuse of prescription medication doesn't harm a child in the womb? Meth and heroine addiction has no affect on an unborn child? Where is their proof??? ALSO not everyone HAS to have children. Women aren't just baby machines. Some people know themselves very well and like that one woman said, they know their own limits! Telling them "they just don't believe in themselves" is rude, downright disrespectful and totally invalidates the years of introspection that went in to that person's personal choice. The interviewer implied that if the woman didn't think it was a good idea for her to have a third child, then it was just because she wasn't trying hard enough. Taking care of one disabled child is difficult. The interviewer wants her to have 2 more??? WTH! How thoughtless and arrogant! Especially coming from another woman. Disgusting. What stranger has the right to talk to her like that??? Some people realize that being childfree or to stop having more children is the best decision for them and their own families. Let people make their own decisions and stop perpetuating this unhealthy myth that women who are not mothers are somehow less than, or that motherhood and fatherhood is something for everyone. Some people are just not cut out to be parents and know that about themselves. Let them be and don't pressure people who don't want to have kids into having children. And if you are going to encourage people to have children who do not have the means to take care of them or who will birth children who are addicted to drugs, then like Barbara said, adopt them.
7:15 This is like saying: "I've driven home drunk twice and I never killed anybody while doing it. This means that not only can it not happen to anyone else, but also that any method of prevention cannot possibly be helpful in saving lives."
i like you because of your avatar. go chelsea!
heylo232 EXACTLYYYY she annoyed me, she basically said that it has no affect on the kids
That was exactly my thought!
"Well, MY kids are fine and some kids without drugs are born screwed up anyway. So obviously taking drugs while pregnant has no effect.".
It's the same with children brought up in broken and abusive homes. Just because Timmy didn't go on a murderous rampage even though his parents beat him and sexually abused him, doesn't mean Tommy won't. Obviously being beaten and sexually abused as a child has no bearing on you growing into a functioning adult. If beating kids and taking drugs leaves their future a toss up because there is no statistical difference between them and kids born to drug addicted parents or parents who beat them, let's all do drugs and beat kids.
That's basically what she's saying.
Anecdotal evidence. She was lucky but it doesn't mean that's the norm.
Right on, thought the exact same thing.
wowww!! this lady has got the right idea. I know a lot of people will sit here and act like what she is doing is completely wrong... but birthing a drug addicted child is freaking HORRIBLE. I've experienced first hand by having to help wean babies off dope and is an awful experience and I would not wish that on anybody, my cousins ex girlfriend was getting high behind his back and he was to blind to see the signs. there second born was born a meth addict and there third and final baby was born a heroin addict. the boy that was addicted to heroin could not leave the hospital for 6 months because as soon as he was born the doctors had to put him on strong dosages of methodone to wing him off of heroin. after the boy came home it was so hard, he would not sleep or eat for days. All he did was cry and cry and cry. it was terrible having to witness a newborn go through that and not being able to sooth him because his little body was basically asking for heroin.
Lobo Blanco God Bless these babies!
If there were a god, he's the one who let this happen to these innocent babies who never even asked to be here. An all powerful god who literally sits back and watches it happen every day. That god is a heartless asshole.
Thank the nurses, doctors, and medical science who brought those tiny bodies through an experience and addiction most of us could never even imagine as adults.
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Addiction in newborns is a huge problem and an awful thing for a child to experience. No argument there. I'm a little confused by the OP's anecdote though. The word is "wean" which I realize is a simple error but withdrawal does not keep a baby int he hospital for 6 months. There must have been other health issues as well. Meth in newborns isn't really the addiction that is problematic. meth actually causes physical problems for the child and some of them are very serious. I do agree with what this woman is doing as well. It isn't harming these women, it is helping them and it is preventing suffering.
white wolf im 28 now and was over amped and dead on meth when bored
the interviewer is unprofessional :(
How are IUDs or implants bad?
And sterilization is just one option of many she's giving. They chose to get sterilized.
Does this interviewer think that women DON'T have the right to choose to be sterilized?
Drug addicted or not, a LOT of women genuinely do not give a damn about having kids.
the last 10 sec of this lady's argument crushes all opposition to her program. its estimated that more than 2.5 million children are homeless in America with an additional 100k+ kids waiting for adoption each year. if programs like this can quantifiably reduce those numbers and the pain and suffering of children born into families, or lack there of, struggling with extreme poverty and drug addiction, then i see absolutely no ethical reason to why this program shouldn't exist. its clear this lady did her part to adopt children born into these circumstances, but she knows not everyone is as generous as she is, this is the next best thing. lets take care of the ones we have and try to prevent the births of children who STATISTICALLY SPEAKING, have a greater possibility of an impoverished, drug and crime ridden life.
That last question really irked me. If you used to be an addict that was sterilized and turned your life around so much that you're now 100% stable financially, off drugs, and 100% emotionally mature and stable, ADOPT. Giving an unwanted child with no home a loving, stable parent, there's your second chance right there. Family is what you make it, stop romanticizing biological ties.
Absolutely. Pressuring women into having kids who don't have the means or who don't want them comes from this romanticization of pregnancy and the "miracle of birth." Unfortunately we don't live in a dream world. I'm with Barbara 100% and the interviewer's attitude through the whole interview really irked me. The interviewer comes off as one of those type of people who cannot understand how someone could love a child that wasn't biologically related. It was totally disgusting to watch how judgmental she was. She obviously has no clue.
ROMANTIZING??
yes not everyone can have children and people can over come drugs.My best friend was a drug addict. There is nothing I wouldn't have done for him.we were friends for yrs.unfortunately he lost his life to brain tumors in2010.All people on drugs are not black. many are white and come from wealthy or upper middle class families.
Thank you
AMEN.
Barbara’s last words hit me, what an answer 👏🏼
This woman is right, the women she is helping will have time to heal and grow while they are on contraception, and they can later have a child. The ones, in particular those that have many kids already and are addicted/ selling their bodies for drugs should take up the sterilisation option 100%.
That lady is my hero. In nursing school I had my OB rotation and had a patient who was 34 weeks pregnant with her 7th baby and she was addicted to crack for all of them. The doctor was inducing her because the environment inside the mother would be more harmful than letting the baby be born prematurely. Wow- just let that sink in. It had a deep and lasting impact on me.
I'm a a former heroin addict and I think the non permanent birth control is hard to argue with. Using/drinking just doesn't mix with child rearing... you can't do it.
I agree that the non permanent birth control is a good idea. I just have problems with the permanent sterilization.
Where can I donate to her cause. She walks the walk and talks the talk, she has 4 adopted kids. She is amazing.
this interviewer was clearly biased, get better staff vice
Anne Lionheart No she isn’t. The journalist laid out a summary of what this woman is doing and why, and then after questioning the woman on some of the criticism she receives, the journalist allowed the woman the opportunity to respond to her critics. That’s how it’s done.
No, she gave a specific opinion "I feel like you don't believe in yourself" to a woman who has clearly said SHE DOESN'T WANT ANY MORE KIDS. When a woman says she doesn't want any more kids, to respond with questioning that woman's belief in herself is disgusting. @@AriannaSimien
@@AriannaSimien Wrong. That #FakeJournalist was full of undeserved moral superiority
The smaller issue y’all highlighted is part of the bigger issue which is the continued perpetuation that white people must or should & are the only ones qualified to save Black people. Not only that, the majority of people affected by the drug epidemic aren’t Black people; they’re white. What began as yet another means of targeted, systemic, & covertly applied campaign to decimate Black Americans has poetically flipped to destroy their very own. During the 80s & 90s crack use was demonized & the addicted were criminalized. Yet now that it’s mostly white people dying in droves from heroin, here come the calvary to save the day! 😂 It’s bigger than this old funny shaped white lady going town to town tryna sterilize certain affected people. I just hope y’all wake up to realize before u applaud the next “Great White Hope” that comes along with a seemingly grand idea to “help” people.
@@Courtney-gs3mt It kinda seems as if your personal bias is affecting the way you are taking her statements and projecting meaning into what's being said based on that bias. They were discussing why the woman doesn't regret being permanently sterilized and the reasons why she didn't want to have any more children. When she said she felt like the woman didn't believe in herself, she was pretty much summarizing the reasons the woman gave her. It's pretty obvious that the woman doesn't trust herself enough to have another child, the journalist was simply pointing out the obvious and summed up the reasons she was given, not questioning them. I'm having a hard time understanding just what it is that she said that bothered you so much cuz I didn't hear her say anything that indicated whether she personally agreed with the woman's decision or not, even after going back and watching it again to make sure. She was just asking her questions. That's what you usually do when interviewing someone.
Are these people actually justifying putting an unborn baby into danger and portraying it as a 'social problem' rather than a possibly permanent health risk? Drug addicts shouldn't have children, case closed. Putting another life into danger or justifying it because your own somehow turned out fine is just plain sad and wrong. Fix yourself before you bring another life into your misery.
This is a spectacular idea. I have nothing but sympathy for addicts, having known several myself, but they do not have a right to have children that may very likely have lifelong disabilities directly caused by their mother's substance addiction. I think temporary, long-term birth control like IUDs should be encouraged over sterilization, because many addicts go on to get clean and be wonderful parents. But as long as they are using substances they should be nowhere near children. Get clean, then have all the kids you want. This woman is doing a hell of a lot more good for society than the reporter or any of her critics who aren't actively helping addicts.
Elizabeth Cullum, for what it's worth the video left out an important detail. Most of the clients do opt for the long term birth control. The ones who opt for sterilization usually have already had multiple abortions and children who have died or been taken away from them.
Laughing--So you think they are being conned into giving up their reproductive lives? If these people have had all those tragic events happen then they are unfit to be a parent anyways.
@T C I never said they were being conned. In fact, I agree with project prevention's mission! What I'm trying to explain is that no one is taking away their chance at parenthood. The ones who do opt for sterilization have had that chance and messed up big time. Deep inside they realize that and opt for the sterilization. They still have the option of trying to get back or mending their relationship with their surviving children if they ever get their act straight.
There go the majority of the President's/Musicians/Actors/Comedians/Painters children.
Elizabeth Cullum 👍👍👍
This is the same reporter that was on the episode when they were talking about aids. She really is not professional. She always have to add her opinions and feeling into the interviews. Gul sit down and get out yo feelings
Big journalists do that also, but they say, "Some people will say" before they give their opinion.
She's so right. Not every addict is trying to quit. And she can't fix any of the socio economic situations these people are suffering from and in. She can protect the next generation of children from the terrible homes they usually become.
She adopted 4 black children, how is there even a question about her "targeting" women of color? She has a beautiful family and a seemingly open mind. God Bless her and her giving heart!
the only giving her heart is doing is giving up! all that obese weight pulling her fat figure down is costing our healthcare systems more than addiction is.
fat fuckers need eradicating, and feeding your kids bad food, setting them piss poor examples and allowing them to be lazy is also child abuse.
Barrio Salveño agree
@TheBestFortniteClips -- if these addicts have any heart it should be helpful for them to know that they aren't bringing a child into a terrible situation. Which 99.999999999999999999999999999% of them are going to do. But, I guess we should put a woman who made a choice to be an addict before the needs of a child who won't have a decent life or will have a learning disability being born to a woman who cannot choose their child over drugs?
@TheBestFortniteClips she specifically said she isnt helpin the drug addicts she is helping prevent babies bein born to these addicts.
@@rdc197810 thank you! Its not about the addict, or saving or helping them. its about preventing them from reproducing.
The women who said drugs does not affect the babies should watch this video and see what it did to the lady with the child with mental disabilities smh
I’m pro-life and I think what she is doing is smart and humane. It’s helping women make decisions BEFORE they get pregnant.
SHE SHOULD START STERILIZING MEN TOO??????????
BARBRA! my woman! My heart goes out to her! Im in full support!
She is doing a positive thing for her community, i believe she's saving thousands of lives from being born into shit situations , abuse, loser parents , from orphanges and everything that comes with living in poverty.
Most addicts are probably like "I can get a lot of dope for 300 bucks."
Thats the point
I kinda thought that was implied.
Most aren't violent
Random Sauce less than one days dope my friend.
Heurheurheur u r an idiot. I was and addict over twenty years and never had any government help nor violent. Most addicts are not violent. Ur so uniformed. Just stop.
The mom crying saying she knows her limitations is telling her truth. Everyone should watch this woman if they are thinking about making a baby with a substance problem. She has her kids and is raising them. She has done well.
The world is better for this woman.
TUH! she shut that reporter down! NO SOLUTION NO COMMENT unless you wanna start adopting these kids!
AmazedByKay I love your hair.
AmazedByKay This is progressive thinking.
The Tea The picture is someone else.
The Tea Warren Buffet ,gives 300 million, for free birth control.
AmazedByKay Exactly
Who cares about the skin color of her clients? It's about the lifestyle. If where she is, more Black people are in that lifestyle, then that's who she is doing this for. She is a servant, not a Master
TheUptownGrrl She DROVE 9 hours to Mobile. That's not her area. From 1 end of Alabama to another is not 9 hours.
That is a false statement, that is the perception, look at the stats! Look at meth, crack, and cocaine stats. It's actually the opposite with the exception of marijuana use, which is a large contribution of African American incarceration. If she has the perception that black people are doing more drugs she is going to be in urban areas where they reside, making this a racial issue.
She is providing these people incentives with permanent effects. We all know when you're an addict you'll do anything for money, so this permanent procedure providing a large amount of money will be what everyone will go for. This is a racial issue, because of where she conjugates, and she needs to stop!
I would be in agreement with her, if they were IUD and birth control injections, as they have a high rate of reversibility. What is she going to say to those who are clean now and are ready for kids but can't because they can barely remember signing up to be sterilized PERMANENTLY? This is ethically wrong, and she IS Disproportionately targeting African American areas and targeting people not able to think objectively. Whether she knows it or not is irrelevant, she is! This is racism at its finest!
www.cjpf.org/who-uses-crack-cocaine-and-why/
TheUptownGrrl Warren Buffett gives away free birth control.
Irrelevant to the efficacy of her practices. These are free individuals making a free choice. The permanence of sterilization is also irrelevant. The benefits outweigh the cons, no matter who she targets. Though out of curiosity I would like any stats she had available, if any.
so sad how some people feel the need to make every. damn. thing. about skin color...if she was helping mostly whites, they would be whining that she was ignoring blacks and being racist! so tired of the people who try to find something wrong with everything & everyone.
People need to visit a detox ward for newborns, then ask if they believe this is ok as long as the birth mom retained fertility.
This is incredible. My boyfriend is a heroin addict and if we had kid's he'd choose heroin. Drug addicts will neglect anything other than their drug. Such an amazing idea 😍
He should not be your boyfriend. You can't save people and you have a life to live too.
@@rachelnstephens It's been a horrendous journey
As a heroin addict myself. I hope you moved onto something better.
@@ChiTownGuerrilla Nope lol. I found the strength to break the emotional connection I had and kicked him out and got the police involved for the first time ever in 5 years. He's in a drug rehab place doing well being looked after like a baby. Seeing him for Xmas but hopefully we'll try and break free from each other after. We're both in a food place. I just feel a tad resentful as he stays clean in these places he ends up in - charities. Guess he just can't deal in normal life x
im a clean drug addict & i couldnt agree more w barbara. as for the host we dont need babying, some ppl rly need a reality check & a permanent solution, bc its true that u r an addict for life even if ur not using the chance of relapse is always there & i think the worst kind of abuse is done to an unborn bby when the chance of escape from it is absolutely 0%
Hey VICE! Great that you share the opposing views in this matter. But when one of the views is that drugs don't harm babies in the womb I think you also have the responsibility to confront that argument with scientific facts. Some people are stupid enough to actually believe that.
Amen!
Exactly! There was this girl in high school that said that woman could drink up until the 6th month of pregnancy without it harming the baby and some girls actually believed her.
I’ve watched this when I was hurting with my moms addiction, I’ve watched this after I forgave my mom, and was healing, now I watched again while pregnant. My opinion hasn’t changed, Barbara is doing something amazing, she’s changing a small section of her world, she’s adopted, she’s helping addicts make good choices. Those women at the end are promoting ideals that aren’t factual, and that blonde one is so entitled. If you are not capable of being parent who can’t even take care of themselves then don’t even become a parent.
3:07 *"How is that any more than a band-aid on a huge problem?"*
What is your point, Jenny Kleeman & VICE? Even if it is a band-aid, it isn't the responsibility of this woman or her organization to look at the social issues that are causing the problem. Hell, it isn't even her responsibility to prevent drug addicts from giving birth to drug-addicted children, but she's trying to do some good and I don't support you taking issue with that.
We need women like her in every state!
That's insane that they are saying illicit drugs don't affect birth defects. That can not be true. Even if it isn't the drugs themselves the health of the mother is what the infant grows with what she consumes so does the child and if drugs have a negative effects on the user it would definite affect the child they are growing
Praise this woman for actually taking action...!!! ❤️🙌🏽
Thumbs down for pointed bias against the person who is doing the work to solve the problem.
We need a MILLION more just like her!!!
Shedonista Shamanatrix A billion! True u r
BRAVO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 👏👏👏🌎❤️
My own mother sterilized herself after having 2 children because her health was declining and she knew that another pregnancy would be extremely risky for her own health and that of the child, and she wanted to be around to raise the kids she had already. She was shunned and guilted for that choice by many family members and 'friends', (one of many reasons I don't put a high value on blood relatives). I don't understand how someone who is pro-choice with abortion can be so against chosen sterilization.
If I weren't gay I would probably opt to sterilize myself. The only way I can even think about having kids in the world we live in is if I were able to help a child that was already in need of a home. I honestly see it as similar to getting a pet from the local shelter vs. insisting on a dog from a breeder.
The problem I see is that she’s sort manipulating the situation. These women are not in their right mind set to make an informed decision. They’re thinking of the next score and disregarding what’s actually being done. It’s not about being against sterilization, it’s about proper consent. You wouldn’t have sex with someone who’s drunk or completely high out of their minds because they can’t give consent. So why is it ok for her to dangle money to these drug addicted women who would do anything for drug money and ask them to get sterilized? It’s just not right.
The consent is obtained by the doctor who is making the call that the patient understand what the operation will involve. The doctor has sworn an oath to protect his/her patients and will not go ahead if a patient doesn't understand or cannot give consent because they are delusional or under pressure or in withdrawal. She is not the one making the final call, professional doctors are.
Eliseo Bondoc If they aren't in the mindset to consent, they aren't in the mindset for pregnancy either. Innocent people should be prevented at all costs
I almost cried when I heard what this woman was doing. She may not have the most right answer but she has been trying her best to help.
My (white) cousin's daughter was born 10 months ago. She spent her first 4 months in the NICU coming off heroin, and suffering from seizures everyday. My husband and I are fostering and adopting her as well as her older brother who'll be 2 in November. I would love for that lady at the end who thinks it only affects 3% of babies, to come and meet my daughter and see how she struggles to hit her milestones. I also put my cousin's race out there, just for whoever wants to think this is a racial issue. I wish someone would pay my cousin to at least get an IUD. Both of her children's biological father was her dealer who didn't want anything to do with them, and immediately signed his rights away. What kind of life is that for any child? Shame on you Vice! This is why I stopped following you (thank you, CZcams algorithm). You allow for too much of your bias to seep into your stories!!!
They should go ask state social workers if they think drug addicts should have kids. Ask them about their clients. I'm very liberal but facts are facts and this piece to me came off as the reporter having a definite viewpoint. It's not eugenics it's people acting irresponsible with their lives which is their choice but providing them a means to not bring other lives into this world that they can't take care of.
IKR! Me too, but reading some of the posts some idiots dont understand that it's the liberal left that supports what this woman does the most. That's also why we're Pro-Choice, Anti-War and Anti-Death-Penalty. We dont want to have to kill something that never should have existed in the first place.
Often it's not even a choice, or it doesn't seem that way. I've known people who were well educated and had a career and it started off with the attitude of, "try anything once," only to find out they were addicted pretty quick and they were never the type of person to waste money.
These were people more interested in saving for a home or travel, but the drugs are that powerful. They need to be forced to "hit bottom", and if they cannot afford treatment, the next best way to rehab someone is take em to another city or even better, outside a city where they can't catch a bus or cab, delete all contacts from that life from their phone and keep them off social media and away from other triggers, change their number, don't give em money or car access for 6-12 months. Keep em at home and have therapy appointments. Have them take care of a home, gardening, cleaning, etc. and get them back to a schedule.
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Same, it's not like the lady was forcing them to! I'm also a liberal, but she has likely improved thousands of lives.
I absolutely love what this woman is doing only thing it needs services like this all over the US and to the people who are in disagreement in what this woman is doing needs to go to a hospital when the Drs are trying to detox a newborn baby off of Crack or Meth it will change your whole life around so I salute this woman she has to be God sent!
@Russ Carr first of all you're racist and are you going to adopt one of those drug addicting children ? No, so you sir are part of the problem.
@Russ Carr so youd rather have babies born with defects and addiction? the woman either pays for birth control or sterilization. after going off of birth control they can get pregnant... idk you look like the dumb ass
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In nursing school, when I did my o.b. rotations, I saw a baby that was born to a mother that did heroin and smoked cigarettes. The baby was blue and shaking pretty bad. It was so sad. I'll never forget it. It was her 4th baby. Her other three were in foster care.
Pants the Mancat There should be mandatory sterilization in order to prevent child abuse Ike that!!! 😡Absolutely horrific, especially that she reproduced 4 times!!!! Sorry you had to witness that. HOW on earth can we help prevent these tiny babies from suffering at the hands of evil, selfish people?...
I adopted two boys(biological brothers) who were born addicted. I assumed by adopting them and removing them from their biological family’s environment that I’d somehow be able to break certain inherited characteristic traits. My boys cognitive skills totally off. They have absolutely no impulse control. They’ve been in and out of behavior facilities because somehow they don’t comprehend certain bad choices. I’m not going to lie, it’s been hell. I love my sons but it’s been a rough time with them as well. If you’re an addict simply don’t have kids.
So that one woman just did drugs while pregnant & bragging about it? "Oh my kids turned out fine." Then they sit there with smug looks on their faces saying only 3% of kids come out messes up cuz of drugs. Wtf.
This lady is a saint and should be applauded for her efforts!
You cannot call her a racist if she has adopted Black kids! 🤦♀️
Amen! Common sense
Marina Khan, plus she is helping a lot of women from having children that would likely come into this world with fetal alcohol syndrome and a lot of developmental disorders that their moms unintentionally passed onto them while pregnant.
You can adopt all the black children and still be racist
There's more than 2 races out there y'know...
if you actually raised black children then no, you cannot be racist....
thats the equivalent of saying you can not be racist but still be a racist
i love how men are commenting on this about a woman’s choice to sterilize when they obviously have no idea what it’s like to go to a gynecologist and request a sterilization. it takes multiple visits and most doctors require a psych evaluation as well before a sterilization. at the end of the day the procedure is entirely based on the doctors opinion. a woman who’s older and has had kids is most likely gonna get one. an 18 year old with no kids and no desire to have them (me) has been denied by 4 different doctors. these men have no idea what it’s like to be a woman and to not have the choice to do what you want with YOUR OWN BODY. this woman is doing an amazing thing and i really don’t think sterilization is the first thing she or any doctor are recommending. the addicts have the option. why are we not supporting this woman’s effort to end drug addicted newborns being in foster care??
Someone commented that she doesn’t accept women who do not already have children. They actually said at least 3.
You realize men can be sterilized too, right? It's not unique to women. It can be hard for men to get vasectomies when they're under 30, because doctors don't feel comfortable doing it.
There is a reason why Doctors won’t let 18 year olds get sterilized, it’s because many people both men and women don’t want to have kids at a young age, but a large percentage of them change their mind as they get to their late 20’s or find a partner they really like, and doctors know this. I completely agree with what this women is doing, and support it, but sterilizing a young healthy 18 year old is a completely different situation.
18 is way too young to make a permanent life long decision like that, your brain hasn’t even finished developing. How could a doctor live with themselves knowing they sterilized someone who might regret it in 10 years because they made a decision when they were still basically a kid. Also it’s not just male doctors who would refuse this, female doctors will too.
I know of people even in their early 30’s who say they never want a kid, but then they meet the right person and want to have kids. 18 is much too young to make a permanent decision like that and is definitely something you might regret.
Girl you some kinda stupid.
They deny you so you don’t change your kid after or your future partner sues them for your choice.
I have a child that has been affected by drugs during pregnancy. And his cousin's (there's about 10 of them) has permanent damage from the drugs the mom used.
These two ladies do not know what they are talking about.
I watched this video a year ago, and am still pissed off about how the reporter treated this woman. She's doing an incredibly good thing for these women and for these children. She stepped up and adopted these children, she's stepping up and actually trying to help solve the problem. Where do these armchair critics who have done little to nothing to help get the gal to criticize her?
Drugs are no fucking joke. Meth for example, releases almost 200x the pleasure inducing hormones that sex, food or even water give you. That means it's not just about "feeling good", it means these drugs literally reprograms your brain to interpret meth to be more important, and more necessary to life than food, water or sex. An addict's brain interprets withdrawal as more dangerous than starvation, or dying of thirst. These women are not in a safe place in any sense of the word to become pregnant. The dangers to the developing fetus are far more than "3%:", what a fucking joke.
The foster care system is flooded with kids with developmental disabilities, and that have, by these circumstances, far higher chances of becoming addicts themselves. This program is honest salvation. Full stop.
7:50 drugs do not cause unique permanent damage?
wtf is this woman for real? She obviously has no clue what she is talking about...
But its caused by poverty! Being drug addicted has no relation to being impoverished in the first place!
This woman is doing God's work!
Dakota Hope
It is 100% impossible for there to be a overlord who lives in the clouds who controls everything.
lOzZa WiLlIaMs anything is possible
This is a BRILLIANT idea!!!! Well done ma'am!!! I applaud you. I think this is something that governments everywhere should adopt.
Lo Lo ABSOLUTELY!!!!!!!!!!👏🌎❤️
Where are you Barbara, I can't find any recent news about you.... I've seen some of your story on various videos and hope you are ok and still doing this important work.
That reporter is extremely biased and is just asking loaded questions to the point you can feel her dislike/hatred for what that woman does. .
Shermingtan No, she gets the story by asking hard questions. Made her look better IMO
There is a huge difference between tough and loaded questions. She is crossing a line no journalist should cross.
this same "reporter" would probably go on and on about how she loves margret sanger
Shermingtan I like Vice, but tbh loaded questions are how they try to convince people to agree with them. These types of interviews have predetermined goals for how they want us to consume their content. Biased but I find the general idea to be informative.
The thing that I've noticed with vice is that unlike some other sources they don't lead you to a concrete conclusion. Yes they have some amounts of bias but they put facts out there from diverse perspectives, as we've seen in the video. and they leave you to develop your own opinion.
Omg! Why aren't there more people like her?? She's completely right
Wow I am going to donate some money to this lady. She is so right!
Vice need to take notes on interviewers from unreported world or asian boss. They're very open minded and try to be unbiased as possible
That woman is an angel. God bless her! The Vice reporter asked ridiculous questions at times, as if she was set on finding flaws in her work.
Damn she kept it 100% and you have to respect that.
I wish there were something like this on a global scale, to encourage certain people to not have children...
This woman is a hero. She has a mission and she knows exactly why she does what she does.
this woman is an angel sent from heaven
she definitely is
I'm so torn whether I should give a thumbs up or down because of the bias reporting.
how about neither?
MEE TOO like i support the sterilizer lady not those bullshit pregnancy group ladies
reporting wasn't biased the job of the interviewer is to play the devils advocate - it would be biased if we only heard the side of the interviewee
true the interviewer was so biased
Finally someone with Common sense,good job ma'am
Birth defects have nothing to do with the drugs? Have you ever seen a baby just born on drugs? I 100% agree with Barbra.
I'm tired of these pompous, arrogant vice reporters who push their own agendas...
Guy then, stop watching
+MrAnasAnderson There's no truth without bias when dealing with human problems, but you can try to formulate 'more objective' and 'less politically charged' arguments. You can do so, for instance, by trying to be less judgamental when reaching conclusions or using less value charged adjectives. I think that some Vice reportes could give these a go sometimes.
Hola Tio couldn't agree more...
The vice reporter never even gave her opinion on the issue. Did you even watch the video?
+Kevvy Kim HBO Vice is still top notch, to my mind. VICE News, on the other hand, leaves much to be desired. This is a personal opinion. They have been broadcasting the good clips on HBO, uploading them to CZcams 1+ year later, and in the meantime, feeding you off Vice News.
Exactly step up and adopt these children because a strung out or drunk person is utterly incapable of caring for any child.
This lady is a TRUE BLESSING..ANY ONE THAT disagrees is SLAP CRAZY!!
If you let someone pay you to get sterilised- then you shouldn't have kids in the first place. They're choosing to let her pay them, it's their choice to give up their fertility.
It's absurd how they are defending drug users having children and denying the face that a lot of the children born from drug abusing mothers or even alcohol many of them have issues when they are born which may be lasting with them for many years after birth
lol are they really saying that if an addict gets clean they're no longer addicted?? That's not how it works, you will always be addicted the only difference is you're not going to be doing those drugs. But if there was crack in front of an ex crackhead they would still probably do the crack. Addicts have to deliberately stay away from their addictions because at any moment they could relapse.
Do you speak from personal experience? Maybe you should stop being so hard on yourself.
HotCrazyCatLady I have family that are addicts and everyday is a struggle not to go back into their old habits.
Aimee Mena maybe your family is full of inbred pieces of shit, most likely.
Aimee Mena Pay no attention to PsychosisRecords. I don't know what he is trying to prove since you didn't insult anyone. I don't want to imply pity or anything of that nature for you but I do wish you did not have to know so much about addiction at age 16. You have insight into this issue that someone who has not lived it doesn't possess. Thank you for sharing your thoughts. It has been my experience as well that most addicts need to avoid their addictions. some people truly do move on to the point where they no longer feel any urge to use but for the most part the addiction is always there. I do know people who have many years of clean time and almost to a one they will still refer to themselves as addicts. I don't think all addicts are bad people, far from it. They are just people, good, bad, smart, stupid, and every other mix of characteristics just like anyone else.
a l thank you for understanding what my comment was trying to say I wasn't trying to hate on anyone when I said that. :)
I’m a recovering heroin, meth, and opiate addict. I’m coming up on 3 years clean this June!💗 finding out I was pregnant with my daughter was what saved my life!💗 I sadly found out at 25 weeks being I had no symptoms and have pcos where I don’t have periods in the first place.. but the day I found out I was pregnant was the day I went back where I was living and packed up and left to go back home with family to get clean and re start my life! My daughter is truly the best thing that ever happened to me and I thank God everyday I was blessed with such an amazing, beautiful gift!🙌💗 I know many girls though that used all the way through their pregnancy and still use today.. I’m so thankful that I did change and chose a better life for me and my daughter and that she was born healthy and is a smart, beautiful, thriving little girl!😊💗
Why aren't we funding this!?!? Don't worry I know why the private sector stands to gain nothing from it.
Why does the interviewer have to bring race into this?
Cause she's racist against whites
James Greco it's basically eugenics look at the stats of babies born addicted to drugs a majority of them are white
She brought up race because of the issue of Eugenics.
there was a time not too long ago when blacks were the target of forced sterilization by white people.
Also, there have been cases where white people have used blacks as guinea pigs to study the progression of certain ST diseases.
targeting blacks for birth control is a race issue but the way this woman is doing it, it is hardly the worst things a person can do for a struggling community and society:
these drug addicts 1) can elect to take her money
2) have various options for birth control to choose from
3) most are already parents
4) she is actually solving a problem of women having unwanted children they cannot take care of
so the issue of race is important. most drug addicts come from poor backgrounds and most poor drug addicts happen to also be black.
there is one other point here that was brought up but never fully addressed and that is the issue of poverty; why poverty disproportionately affects blacks?
birth control sure helps because nothing makes poverty worse when you add more mouths that need to be fed but we are still stuck figuring out how to solve the problem of poverty.
Libtard reasoning; that's why. It seems like everything boils down to sex, race and poverty to them.
James Greco I think the previous commenter is right. If she didn't bring up the question then people who saw her stats and protested against her program on this aspect wouldn't see what she had to say. She was given a chance to clarify so this question is a good question.
Even if nothing is physically wrong how can u be a good mother strung out on drugs.
Do they offer sterilization for men who are drug addicts as well? Good job lady.
Yes! You can see at 2:07 that the van says they pay "women and men who are addicted to drugs"
“When you talk to the medical researchers, the great news is that none of the criminalised drugs cause unique, permanent, terrible damage”....Lady, I don’t know what the hell kind of ‘medical researchers’ you’ve been consulting, but that is the biggest load of bullshit I have ever heard.
Now this woman gets it. I'm a libertarian and I believe people should have the right to do whatever they want with their own body, but keep children out of it! I want as few serious drug addicts to have children as possible; this seems to be too soft on em in my book. Maybe make it a law, Idunno--I'd at least make this organization government subsidized, I'll say that at least. But as far as drug laws go, I say let people do whatever they want with their OWN body. Children are just a different story.
Smither Sink no one should have a child unless they are married and financially stable. Just my opinion
Yes, and it's a shame so many people do anyway.
The problem with drug addicts is they don't sit there in their house getting high and not bothering anyone. They create mayhem and often do dangerous and criminal things when under the influence. They often cannot maintain employment and will steal and rob to obtain money for their addiction. Lifting the prohibition didn't reduce the number of alcoholics, it just made it unprofitable for organized crime syndicates. Because alcohol is so easily obtainable, homeless alcoholics fair significantly worse than homeless drug addicts, and create more problems. Drug addicts sober up on a fairly regular basis due to the fact that it's not as easy to obtain drugs as it is alcohol. Homeless drug addicts will use this sober time to attend to personal hygiene and personal and business affairs. Homeless alcoholics have access to a steady, unbroken conveyor belt of alcohol. They never sober up and their hygiene, state of mind, and quality of life suffer significantly because of it. They are significantly more likely than homeless drug addicts to completely forgo personal hygiene and care, live in clothes soiled with urine, vomit, and feces, and urinate and defecate on streets, sidewalks and buildings. San Diego is having a deadly hepatitis A outbreak for this very reason. They have had to pressure clean the sidewalks with a bleach solution in an effort to prevent the virus from spreading, as it's easily communicable.
SepherStar bro 90% of the harm drugs cause is from them being illegal and the cut uncontrolled drugs that are over 100x what they should be out of the black market.. people wouldn't have to steal if the drugs didn't cost more than gold.. also if drugs were legal and sold by pharmacies gangs would not exist anymore! trillions would be kept in our own economy to help our own people.
Smither Sink if a person does drugs they can't control what they do to others bodies so that logic doesn't make sense
That woman is a fucking Angel!
She's a wonderful woman,wish I had met her years before,alot if pain could have avoided...god bless her mission!
Considering the effects of mere malnutrition and poor health on the child during pregnancy, I think it's not at least an unthinkable solution to give birth control to women who struggle with addiction. On top of that, addictive traits runs in genes, so it's extremely important that a child who inherits that trait gets the best possible chance to grow in a healthy and drug free enviroment, so they don't inherit the addiction as well. Psychological effects of abuse, neglect and poor parenting on a child's psyche are immense, so it's ridiculous that anyone suggests that a person who isn't able to consent to birth control in their opinion, is able to consent to getting a child or is even able to function as a parent. It's either or. Either the parents are able to decide on having as well as not having children, or they're not. If they're not able to consent to birth control, they sure as hell shouldn't be having kids either.
the mother with the two " healthy kids" look a bit off
As a recovering alcoholic & addict from a privileged background I completely agree. Myself as a recovering successful, productive member of society completely agree. My father is a recovering alcoholic and he has been clean and sober for 45 years. Way before I was born. I know that if I get pregnant, no matter how privileged the up bringing or how loved the child is they have a HUGE chance of becoming and alcoholic/addict. It's a disease, it doesn't discriminate. A person who has no financial back-up, family/financial/medical support should not have to deal with 3 or 7 (not unwanted but a side effect or means to an end) child.
There are an incredible amount of children out there who have NON alcoholic/addict back grounds. Never mind the huge amount of children born with health/learning disabilities born to addicted parents.
Yes alcoholics & addict DO recover but most often leave a trail of destruction in our wake.
I would rather foster & adopt child now in recovery than know I left children behind. Children with disabilities. So unless you FULLY understand addiction you have NO right to judge this woman.
Yes her method is not conventional but she is DOING SOMETHING. She has cared for and continues to cre for children who come from addict mothers. If you have not done the same.If you are not part of the solution or community you have NO RIGHT TO JUDGE.
Bless this women. For the past decade my sister has been on and off (mostly on) drugs and during her time she birthed four children. which 3 of them all have special conditions. i love my nieces and nephews but it’s not right for these children to be given such a terrible life. they’ve been in 2 foster homes within the last year while my 60 year old parents are trying their best to receive custody for them. my sister lost custody to these kids after she was tested after giving birth to the last one. through her whole pregnancy she was using crack and still acts naive on why her children are cognitive or physically disabled. these people might love of their children but they are in no way have the capacity to take care of them. Drug addiction is a serious problem in the united states and it’s sad to see the lack of resources there is to help people. bless this women for understanding and being blunt about this
a lot of people don’t realize that addicts are given multiple chances on getting clean but nearly 90% relapse in 10 years. this is a serious issue and these children shouldn’t be put in foster homes or be in critical conditions their whole life. it’s not fair that these people can decide and suddenly act like they are doing the right thing by keeping the child and ruining the rest of their life while still snorting things. these people are hypocrites. they decide not to have an abortion because it goes against their views but continue to harm the child in their stomach with their ignorance.