Exploring The Levels - The Brittany Simon Podcast - Ep. 5
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I will, throughout the day, put in time stamps for the questions! For now, enjoy! NOTE: The last 15 mins or so, the audio is slightly off, sorry about that!
0:00 - Introduction
1:15 - A rundown of the Levels
5:21 - How does The Levels compare to other models
11:00 - Do people have to spend a specific amount of time in a level before moving on?
12:23 - Why, for level 2’s, did I decide to use ‘satisfied fool?’
14:52 - Has IQ impacted achieving enlightenment?
19:08 - Enlightenment through Kindness
20:47 - How does this relate to Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs?
23:33 - Is there a level 6
28:34 - Pyramid
30:00 - Fun and enlightenment
34:00 - Are monks level 5’s or 2’s?
41:12 - Are world leaders fake enlightened
45:00 - Malcolm X
47:00 - Are activists inherently Number 2’s?
MORE TO COME
here am I, a bored individual lol
49:30 Is it possible to accept the world but still try to better it?
54:40 Should you care about how others perceive you?
58:00 Are people who suffer from mental illness or are neurotypical, associated with a certain level? (ie staying a 2 forever)
59:20 Narcissism & Psychopathy
1:03:00 (in reverse) Can certain people be associated with mental illness. (ie 4 - Depression, 1 - Narcissism)
1:06:20 How does our social life impact the level/the journey?
1:09:20 Hero’s Journey
1:12:15 How do you start your journey? Nonverbal practices
1:15:16 Difference between observing people and being by yourself?
1:18:20 Alternatives to traveling
1:20:45 Ego Death
1:24:12 Switching points of view as a skill to growth?
1:26:00 The Buddhas path, knowing about other people’s suffering
1:30:20 Can people become fives without trauma?
1:33:45 What if someone induces trauma, is it still a trigger for enlightenment?
1:36:23 Therapy, a path to enlightenment?
1:39:45 Are 2s aware of their value systems? (Thoughts on Joe Rogan)
1:42:51 How do you know what level you are at?
1:45:00 Being in between levels, when do you reach the point of no going back?
1:50:45 Misery at level 4. Can a person take themselves back through delusion?
1:53:00 “is this it…?” 4s and 2s compared (Nihilism)
2:00:10 Arrogance in levels 3-5
2:02:00 How 4s and 2s deal with tragedy differently?
2:11:27 How do 5s interact with movements?
2:16:00 Is a five comforted by the world or do they just accept it?
2:18:32 A 5s understanding of the world (the pure skill of comparison)
2:21:30 Do you feel comforted by the existence of 1s? What do they represent in society?
2:27:10 Can you predict where you’re gonna end up/at which level?
2:29:00 Can you marry or date down/up levels? What if you change during a relationship?
2:33:50 Ouro
it's not perfect but it should do the job
@@lizywhite5743 omg thank you!!! Doing these was taking up a lot of time for me. I appreciate you
@@BrittanySimon I guessed so, no problem, I'm glad it helped ☺️
@@lizywhite5743 Honestly, so so much! You are a life saver ♡
@@BrittanySimon I'm glad I could have done that, more time for watching anime and making new content😊♥️
"I think enlightenment is knowing you don't have to be enlightened" golden
I love the idea of the levels but whenever I listen to Brittany talk about them it seems like the philosophy isn’t totally fleshed out yet. I look forward to watching/reading more about it as Brittany and the co author figure out how to communicate what it is more clearly. It’s definitely a very interesting theory!
Agreed. Although, for some reason, it makes sense to me and I can't articulate why.
Not everything single thing lands but conceptually, I feel like I get it.
Yeah it might still be being fleshed out and Im sure she is aware of this herself haha its super cool to listen to this video because its like we are all diving into this idea that Brittney has and wants to share and she is definitely getting at something- Im excited too to hear more as it gets clearer, as time goes on and more and more discussions happen it will get more and more refined and fleshed out and we are along for the refinement stage which is very cool :)
Yes she needs to create a PDF that fleshes out the meanings of each level verbally and it’s sub levels ( especially the two’s which seems very complex), also three which is a bridge but what does that entail in day to day life… searching answers maybe? And what is the difference between a four and five, they seem similar so what is the differences? One being the almost disturbed seeker and the five resolving to their discoveries as destroyed bliss because their once closed ( and happy) eyes are opened? Did I get that right? Hmmm, just interesting and really only the fours snd fives get the full picture?? Lol!
@@viceanterra3 because when you break it down its pretty simple.
1 people will stay in their bubbles and that's OK.
2. Human nature is predictable and there are some that interact differently with that knowledge.
3. Hierarchies don't work for everyone because not everyone distill thoughts into hierarchies. Systems like this are human natures way of simplifying things in order to not deal with the fact that we don't know shit.
I also have my concerns. The whole activism thing, with her statement being "why go to a protest with people with 5th grade education to fight". Or the definition of a Baby (socially constructed word) does not seem like she accepts nuanced reality "It is a baby bc that is what babies are" . *cracks an egg* "lets make fried chicken"
I think at the end she and I differ on our value axioms. Can you not be "enlightened" and choose to care about stuff? Why was Jan6 bad? Were the people essentially bad? No. Could they have enacted systemic harm? No. Did the display of anti democracy sentiments affect me personally? No. Now, did it harm other people and place another grain of sand in the push for fascism? Yes, oh boy. Do I feel bad about brainwashed qanons? Yes. Do I think they are funny because of how silly they are? No, fascist sentiments aint funny. Cant be tolerant of the intolerance Brittany.
When an individual is content in general, it opens the door to more opportunities and they'll hopefully be humble enough to except them.
Enlightenment is one of the scariest things to happen to someone, and remember not everyone makes it out alive after it happens. Please don’t try so hard to understand everything, it’s exhausting and crippling. Enjoy your life, do what you love and love yourself. That’s all we need IMO
Hi Matt👋 great insight
@@michelebergman4336 I really hope it helps!
@@mattb1568 have u ever heard of Chanting Nam Myoho Renge Kyo?
@@michelebergman4336 no I haven’t, what is it?
Had to look it up. Wow, I love the concept. I’m really coming to terms with the fact that I may be Buddhist so this was perfect timing
After listening to the podcast, I've come to the conclusion that I am probably a four. I made the transition over the bridge late last year. The catalyst was fully accepting that I have sovereignty over my life-for better AND for worse. I had been grappling with this truth for the past three years when a traumatic circumstance shattered my paradigm. I wanted to hold on to my co-dependencies because they gave me (seemingly) justifiable reasons to not prioritize my own life. Once I let go, I was able to begin to break through the inertia of my inner resistances. I am without excuse now and that is TERRIFYING and overwhelming. While I am hopeful toward myself and my future, I do feel quite jaded to the world right now. Any engagement with the general cares of the "two" society drains me and I am much more avoidant of those affairs. I look forward to having peace with all of this.
I know there is not much to respond to with what I've written, haha, but suffice it to say that I really appreciate your content! Observing myself through the levels has been very helpful to my journey. Thought-provoking episode as usual and Quixote was a fantastic co-host!
I'm so very glad the levels have helped you! I wish you the very best ;)
choosing to stay a two is 👏 valid 👏
I totally know what you mean about number 5 people. You meet them and they exude the energy of knowing exactly what they are. They are relaxed, sure of themselves. I just wanna soak in their energy. They are, grounded beyond belief, as if they ARE the earth. Number 5s really inspire us to be the truest version of ourselves.
You said "a 5 wouldn't be an activist because it only changes the world of the 2s" why wouldn't a 5 care about the welfare of a 2?
Altruism and being a good community member are very similar things.
@@joyf801 I was a bit confused by Brittany not believing in altruism at first, but I think the good feeling you get when you do something for others is what a lot of people call altruism, she simply thinks it's for the sake of that feeling.
@@alexigra2235 "behavior of an animal that benefits another at its own expense." Here is one definition for altruism. It doesnt seem to exclude benefit from yourself, but prioritizes benefit to others. At your expense, but not to your complete detriment.
Because the road to hell is paved with good intentions. It's a non-dualist way of perceiving the world. Where there is good, there is bad. Where there is better, there is worse. Just look at all the ways we've tried to make the world better and the consequences. A few examples: Better means of transportation lead to severe pollution. Better education leads to more competition, and therefore fewer jobs for less pay.
Throwing out a net, catching aimless, vulnerable people, monetizing them. Truly an excellent system. If hucksters were rated from 1 to 5, you'd be a 5. Get that bag.
I'm not sure if I am a number 3 or 2 but I am happy to be a 2 if so be it. Being a number 5 sounds lonely, selfish and hypocrite. Not caring for the world I am inserted in simply because it's a 2's problem and a 2's battle. I think fighting for worthless causes is more fulfilling than not caring about it at all because "it's worthless".
Yeah there is a strong sense of nihilistic acceptance the farther along the totem pole you climb with this philosophy
@@anobletone not nihilistic acceptance, but enlightened acceptance. There's a huge difference between the two.
Heck ya! 2 and a half hours! Let’s get into it
Buddha is all of us, some are aware of the Buddhahood inside and some are not. The first was a prince who after getting fed up of, more like bored of, the finest luxuries in life (in those times) decided to run away and become a beggar to know suffering. He went and lived and suffered and came to the realization that suffering sucked, there was no happiness to be gained from living in suffering. He then went to sit under a tree and in the stillness of reflection became enlightened after knowing the top and bottom from the perspective of the side.
I could listen to you for hours! I love learning more about the levels. The first time I heard you explain this idea, it literally felt like you were describing what I had just walked through & learned, but didn’t know how to put it into words. Loving these podcasts! So much love to you❤️
I am honored!!! Thank you so much! I really love my work and I'm so glad so many people feel seen or understood. That is everything!
I work a 9-5 and clicked on this at 4:30, legit could not wait
It's a common misconception but IQ actually refers more to "street smarts" as aposed to "book smarts". IQ is the ability to reason, think quickly, learn new skills and judge situations.
It can refer to both but is a more reliable indicator of book smart potential
Hey Brittany! Do you have a reading list that you've made, available on patreon or elsewhere? If not, is there any particular list you'd recommend? I can't quite remember if it was on this video or not, but I remember you giving a recommendation at some point to read "the classics" and I'm very interested to know what all that might entail.
Everytime I see a religious but awesome person not want to leave their religious bubble I feel envy but not resentment. I will validate their beliefs and encourage them to keep practicing it. I tell them that cause once they stop believing there's no way back 😢😩
I think I’m a 3. I know some stuff. I understand the whys of a lot of society but I really don’t like it. I feel like I can’t tell anyone. I feel like I couldn’t explain it. I don’t think I want to explain it.
Why don't you want to explain it?
How do 2s perceive 4s and 5s?
Watching this makes me so happy. As I dive in am completely happy being a 2B Idk if I mentally could handle being a 4 or 5.I like having an understanding from this perspective
So I am going through your levels content, and I wonder about the distinction between a 1 and a 4. I can see some similarities… like a particularly nihilistic 4 could, from the way I understand it, appear, at least externally, like a 1.
How would you distinguish them (assuming I’ve understood their similarity correctly)? Would it just be that sort of awareness of the bubbles? I guess on a similar note, when you say “1s have every opportunity to be successful but just don’t take it” (paraphrasing), what kind of success are you referring to?
idk if i personally subscribe to this but i love learning about other people's philosophies and beliefs since i've gone through two solid handfuls of my own, thanks for sharing this :)
I appreciate that!
I study the yoga sutras and my teacher often says “it’s a description not a prescription.” I love that because it allows for the freedom of thought, nuance and individualism.
This was such a great podcast. I was recommended this by my sister because she listens your channel and thought we had very similar thought processes, and I am pleasantly surprised that we do. I really want to get to the level where I feel more open about having discussions like this on camera though...but yeah lol, this is not about me and you are doing a great job! So kudos to you 😊
I know that this is probably basic but when you mentioned Sadhguru ideas being similar to yours I was like.....YASSSS!😎😊
I'm currently in the process of reading a few of his books. I'm blown away by his wisdom and I restarted doing yoga every day thanks to him :D
Yay! I am sooo here for this! This was awesome Brittany, good work :) Thank you!
Yayay! Im so glad♡
level 1 is the alpha fk this pyramid
Okay this is a really interesting and cool concept. I think I can pinpoint all of my transitions if I think about it, and if I'm correct then I'm at level 4 currently. I just recently experienced another ego death, but I know for a fact that I'm not ready for level 5 at all, so I don't think I'm there but I could possible be beginning a transition.
Ooo monetized boi!! Thank you for expanding on this in such detail! It’s been wonderful learning about more about this :)
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54:08 long term sustainable change through direct action within your means
Loved this so much ❤️❤️❤️
It would be really interesting to have you and Jordan Peterson have a conversation. ^^
Also regarding the newly "converted" atheists.
So fIrst of all I think a lot of people don't understand what religion or faith is ( I dont know it as well either but here are some thoughts about that). A lot of people just substitute their god with something else. For example with a specific dietary choice (it gives restrictions, moral highgrounds, etc.) or with a political opinion (people just become so obsessed with it and think they have all the answers and cancel everybody who doesn't fit in.... kind of like the crusaders XD)
My family has never been really religious but I do appreciate it for what it is and I think it can be helpful during difficult times and why not use it than. The granfather of my boyfriend passed away 3 months ago and nobody of their family was breaking apart because of that. Of course they were very sad but they always sad that now he doesn't have to suffer anymore and now he can be happy (meaning heaven). ANd I think that's great even though I don't believe in it. But I wish I could somehow.
So all in all I don't get why people hate religion because they do practice themselves a sort of religion (it just has different names but for me it's the same) and it's like with everything - a tool and can be used for good and for bad.
SO sorry for this long text but I just thought about that today and wanted to share it. :)
I think I have been a three for a while since I had an experience where I was kind of away from people and my peers for a while, honestly since I was about 16. I will be for ages though until I overcome my need for social acceptance and connection with everyone, on a complete and loving level. It will take me a longg time to ever make it to a 4 if I do 🤷♀️
This is such and amazing philosophy. I really hope Brittany and her co author are able to write a book about this some time in the future.
i thinkkkkk im a level 4-5. I try to live in this so be it mindset/state, and i honestly feel like ive reached a level where i truly thrive off being vulnurable and figuring out what my next "flaw" or (personal quest i guess you can say) is so that i can work on it. I just enjoy existing, im greatful for even being alive, being abe to have the ability to talk,walk,drink water just so many small/big things that are taken for granted.
a personal example of my transition from a 2 to a 3-4? is-
when i was in high school i was in a 5 year long relationship. it was full of minipulation,pettyness,3d surface bullshit, just...basically this super toxic ass relationship. while i ended things with him i was at a verrrrrry low point in my life where i was doing lsd,coke,zannies alll sort of drugs. and aided by said drugs i experienced this ego death. i realized during that trip that i finally had all the answers to all the questions i had. (questions like: why is my life so shitty? why are people assholes? why do men not love me? etc..) i realized i didnt need to even answer them. i cant control everyone or everything- that i dont and will never know why my life is the way it is or why people do the things they do. i just have to have grace,compassion and empathy and my life will be rich. not rich in the surface 3d material sort of way- but in a spirital personal sense.
recently that ex reached out to me in hopes to catch up. turns out he became very very wealthy and actually tried using his status and material goods as a means to get back with him. ( i personally want to grow and build with someone not be plucked and placed into a life to act and fit whatever narritive im expected to.) the growth part comes into play here because the old me wold have taken advatage of him for his money. i would have been petty toxic just... anything to gain and spite him.
but what i did was the complete opposite. i let him speak his mind, i didnt invalidate his feelings. i set boundries and maturly explained why i could not be with him in a romatic way anymore- and that i was willing to be friends and even be someone he can turn to if he needed advice or help. ( eye for an eye akes the whole world blind) i just realized alot of things about him that i have 0 right to try and change. he acts the way he does because of events in his life-- how does hating on him help the situation at all?? especially when it got me nowhere hating on myself.
i dont know if i made any sense or if i rambled on way to long opps. but im happy to be here and have the ability to understand some of the topics/questions in this video. i wish i was better at articulating my thaoughts into words haha but thank you for taking your time to make and put this content out their.
(im shit at spelling and grammar so pls dont hate on me to much)
Totally interesting discussion on comparison to others similar models. I enjoy watching these, and ive commented in the past regarding a model created by my dad and myself of Irrational, Rational, Enlightened. We intend to write a book it eventually. However one notable thing I've differentiated from other models and my own, is mine allows movement between phases, to some extent and within contexts. I.e. enlightenment with moments of irrationality. Irrationality with moments of rationality. And then of course more solid states of people who are only one of the three, or people who become one of the three. Obviously too compliment for a comment but u no lol.
this is really interesting, I prefer this to the idea of shifting but 'permanent' stages
i am level six billion
For this section that starts at 17:45, the question that was asked stood out to me because it feels like it's something so obvious but not common knowledge. Like yeah kindness is good and proper but most twos don't think about there place in the world adjacent their actions of kindness towards others or the reality of themselves with the world, some just live in their bubble, sometimes obviously. Like the basics of being a human being that the question proposed, the reality is that a large number of people live life without knowing the basics so when they discovers the basics it feels awe-inspiring or enlightening. Certain twos might take that as a "I've reached this point of enlightenment that is exclusive to me". I hope my random thoughts made sense lol
I love how you explain autistic an distinct learning disabilities at 2s. I think they are 2’s because they are already seeing their life as different which makes them have a top understanding of what it takes to go up but they have a wall that really causes them to struggle to not be able to go up.
It's an interesting perspective, but one that i feel is inherently restrictive by its very nature. This is only one aspect of a person you're examining here, it won't and can't fully describe the entirety of their being. And i can see there being exceptions as well.
Really loved this in depth look at your philosophy! I'd definitely be interested in a follow up 😊
(especially since itd give me more time to think about which level I might be before I try to write a comment about it 😅)
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Yess I have been waiting for this
It’s super unfortunate that this doesn’t have closed captions :( Us with hearing impairments would still love to hear this conversation too!
I will say that it is much easier to hear with headphones though! So if there’s anyone else struggling to hear as well, that’s always an option too!
I wonder how one can kind of identify which number they are. I find the number system fascinating as someone who is what I consider a fledgeling stoic lol.
I don't think I'm a 2 based on your description but I'm definitely not a 5. I do identify with the 3. Being in the bridge knowing there is more, but not really fully willing to cross the bridge.
The simple life of a 2 sounds pretty sweet lol.
From what I've gathered through your framework that overlap with SD (Spiral Dynamics)
Level 1's - N/A from SD (could be anyone with some sort of mental illness from stage Beige to Green)
Level 2C- Stage Beige, Purple & Red
Level 2B : mostly Stage Green
Level 2A : mostly Stage Orange, Blue
Level 3,4 : Intermediary stage between Stage Green to Stage Yellow
Level 5: Integral Stage : Stage Yellow & beyond
literally merch that i'd actually buy!! finally. i love it. humans gonna human. this is the youtube channel, i never knew i needed lololo
At 31:50 I just thought of Aang from ATLA. I think you brought that show up in past video about the level too. A good way to visualize that aspect.
Over 2hrs! 🥰😍
Wait I don't understand why would a five not be able to understand someone that's a two if being the five means that you understand people that are twos I'm speaking specifically on the question about relationships and dating up or down on the scale
These are always so interesting. I show so many “symptoms” of being a 2, 3, and 4 so I’m not really sure which I would be. I don’t really care any more than I would about 16 personalities or something but it’s interesting to talk about and think about myself in relation to other humans. I left my bubble and already saw more than most people will ever see end chose the culture and way of life that I wanted to live (way different from the one I was born). I had trauma that I overcome and when talking about “throwing your old self away and not being able to get it back” related to me on so many levels. But most people are twos and all people have trauma so trauma doesn’t make people not 2s inherently. I struggle understanding the 2 vs 4 nihilism but I’m mildly both of those things. I’ve had the ego deaths where I’m not special and accepted that that’s fine. But I think the biggest thing that still makes me a 2 is my anger at the past and I’m definitely superficial about my appearance (but I think it’s for myself???). Just because I can’t go back to the person I was before my trauma doesn’t mean that I don’t want to and that I’m not angry at what caused that. I’m petty too, if I’m not left alone. If I’m actually a 3 or 4 I’m like the co-author and definitely want to be a 2.
As a likely 2, I gotta say though, some of these questions and comments are sooooo unaware level 2 questions and comments.
More levels content pleeeaaassseee
Yay!!!!
This is really fascinating. I would feel like I'm a 5 just because i know exactly what you mean when you say ego death that changes your outlook on life and your willingness to discuss topics that scare or repulse people, not in an edgy way but generally conspiracy theories or whatever, I want to talk to my boyfriend about things and he just doesn't even understand why i would even spend mental energy on them. That ego death was completely shattering to me. It honestly felt like my life had been a dream and i was just waking up. I'm open to all things and people now, where I wasn't before, but my key difference is that I moved out of that initial atheist phase and back into a religious phase, But i think a non materialistic religious phase, I don't go to church or anything.
Insane narcissism!
I love your content, while I don't agree with everything you say I find many of your ideas inspiring. And I mean inspiring in the sense that it pushes me to do self-reflection and discover what I want from life. And to learn more and go outside of my comfort zone! I appreciate your content and hope you are doing well
Thank you Mollie! Wishing you well ♡
I wonder if there is a similar bridge between the 1 and 2 , like a limbo stage. Similar to the 3 bridge. That maybe they can , in a very rare occurrence, veer away from the 1 life which might also allow them to bypass going back to the 2 life and go right to 3. Almost like a reroute? Like this baby here: They are born a 2. They were severely neglected or abused which caused damage to their psychological make up and they were headed towards becoming a 1 but something happened to interrupt the transition to 1 - maybe a mentor or therapy or a passion in life intervened- and they were able to almost bounce back, possibly back to 2 but because of the trauma most likely directly to 3 perhaps even a 4. Hope this makes sense. I am very high.
I don't think you need a bridge to go between 1, 2 and 3, since they're all on the same island. Only the 4's and the 5's live on a totally different island
I am also very high haha
@@BrittanySimon lol Thanks for this truly fun and thought provoking system! I love your brain. Your evolution is *chefs kiss* ! Have a great weekend!
oh yes and I would go into more deets about what I meant : I guess I wonder if 1s are absolvable ? You might have mentioned that in the podcast but I don't remember. I think when I think of a 'monsters of the world' I think of the people who have gone off the deep end mentally like psychopaths etc. There is no reform for them. But narcissists in some very rare instances can develop self awareness and consciously change. I guess the 2 who could potentially become a 1 just stays a two with help and self awareness maybe. I was just imagining them on a bridge of sorts to 1-hood and then having something shift them back towards 2. Eek! I need to find frands to talk to about this lol
oh and if you haven't already shared : would you ever talk about what your transition from 4 to 5 was like and what sparked it? ok bye now. ive talked to much lol
I'm new-ish 4 (last couple years or so, probably starting when I stopped drinking in 2016) and I have been dabbling with trying to get back to level 2. I find myself pinging back and forth. A month on, a month off. I love returning back to my 4 ness but then I turn bitter or something cringe happens so I turn towards my old 2 life. And the cycle continues. I'm turning 40 this year and I feel that I will probably let myself become absorbed into the warmth of a level 5 over the next few years. I've always been a late bloomer ;)
wait. does that mean im a 3?
@@b12shotz you tell me ;)
@@BrittanySimon hahaha! let me think on it for a few years.
@@b12shotz I'll wait!
Recently started diving into your levels stuff and not finished watching this yet but I'm loving it, I think we're born 5s, most of us are trained to become 2s by our environment and then from there we go wherever we go through life
I think all of this is not correct or useful, BUT, I still like you and find it interesting.
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I am really intrigued about why you consider the world to already be perfect, I would love to hear you expanding on that more,.
Not who you’re asking but..there is no “perfect” in any sense other than preference. But the world is functional, which in essence all that it could be because that’s what it is because this world was not made for us, we just inhabit it.
*is
@2:09:15..used to watch Faces of Death in my teens.
@53:00 i actually recently came to this same idea. the idea that the activism and “fighting” for causes/ participating in all the discourse is kind of irrational because ultimately it doesn’t make much of a difference. i personally only concern myself with what i, personally, can do as an individual which is: be kind, generous, respectful, thoughtful, etc. within my surrounding. i cannot change what goes on, for example, in Palestine, so why should i use my limited time alive, “fighting” for things i realistically have no control in.
i think i’m a 4 idk if i understand what 5s are to know if i’m a 5 or close to being a 5
So from my understanding, being a "five" is:
- not caring about "petty" two issues
- not believing or not committing to believing in a god
- having patience and humility with oneself
- introspection
- ability to process trauma
- openness to change and general open-mindedness
- ability to disconnect from society and see through societal norms and expectations, and understanding why they exist
- understanding people's motivations behind their opinions and actions
- making peace with oneself and the fact of human suffering
Very interesting. I attempted suicide at 14. Ostracized by my entire family at 29. By 33, I’ve allowed them all back as if normal, but detached. I am a hermit by nature. I see things as if we’re living in a simulation. I am ok with everything, quite happy where I am today and I think life is magical.
Thank you Brittany for doing at 2hr and 30 minute video on this. I think I understand it a lot better now. Also you got a lot of ads on this video I’m so proud of you! I hope you are getting a lot of money from this.
Omg really!!! Ads!! Yay! And thank you for watching ♡
@@BrittanySimon yess you had so many and I was like I’m gonna watch these all the way through so you can profit as much.
Okay! So you said you like for people to challenge your ideas, but also I am just curious as to whether or not I'm picking up on this correctly. You say God is for the 2's and refer to him as "the Invisible Man", which, for reference, I want to point out is ONE interpretation of God. Certainly the most common as most of the world is religious, but not necessarily by their own volition-- I hope this makes sense.
So we recognize God is a belief, not a fact.
You say enlightenment focuses not on what we believe, but what IS.
But! As human beings, we ALL hold both knowledge and belief. Atheists may not hold a faith in a deity, but they hold beliefs of their own. (Unless, by belief, we're referring to faith which is a word that lends less to belief and more to trust. The faithful have a trust, of sorts, without fact. I'd have to workshop this a bit, but do Atheists have faiths/trusts that aren't rooted in fact? Surely, many have faith, say, in a partner (if in a monogamous relationship) not to be cheating when out of sight. Do we always know what are partners are doing? I'd hope not. But I believe mine is being faithful and, thus, I have faith that has been tested but is not based on fact in the now.
That said... By your ideology, can one be enlightened while holding a belief in a God-- a belief that is fluid, explorative, and self-aware?
Some of us choose (note: we choose and we recognize it's a choice) to believe, but we also recognize that we don't know shit. The thing is that some of us recognize that as much as we don't know shit, so does everyone else... so doesn't everyone else? No one knows shit.
So can we have fun exploring this concept (while choosing to hold the belief) of God (which can mean anything, really) but claim to be enlightened?
Or am I just stunted if I hold onto this thing for now?
Great video ty
If you see the LONG ass comment I left on part one, thank you for this elaboration. I love this philosophy.
Hi Brittany is it possible that for one person the difference between being a one and a five is action? Maybe a person could think like a five but because they hold themselves back and allow this perspective to restrict them they remain a one where if they had the same perspective but became comfortable with it and worked with that information to the best of their ability they could be a five. Basically a one could have a five mentality but without action will remain a one.
Still going through all the videos but the concept is very interesting and I think all the holes you have will be eventually worked out with more experience and understanding. Knowing is not necessarily understanding and even when you believe you may understand we must be open to see that we can grow of what we have and do learn and know on the way to full understanding/enlightenment. I think, with what I have heard so far. I would argue a 5 is someone that has learned and gained the tools to be enlightened. So much more but I will stop there.
Thanks for hearing me out ♡
The levels idea is really fun to think about, thanks for sharing.... All this reminds me of the anime FATE/EXTRA last encore where they move trough stages to reach a wish (I think, didn't really finish the anime lol)...but on the way to the top there are opportunities to get stuck or choose to not continue and instead learn to live or dominate the stage (also to move on there was a boss/ego to defeat... kinda fitting). I really liked the concept of the anime, but it wasn't super well done so i got bored with it (still loved the characters and music tho). Anyways, really enjoyed this and would love to hear more stuff about it.
Anime is my favorite story telling medium for so many reasons! It just allows for such introspection because it's outside our "world" and allows for people to "what if" without feeling threatened.
I'm a 2b and proud of it
I definitely got the gist of it from the get go, though I didn't get the specific incidents (i.e. I thought I was a 1, which automatically meant I was a 2, and I think I'm now either a 2A or a 3). Pretty sure I personally have to get to 5 to be happy unfortunately. Also based on your first video, I don't think the Hitler conundrum is nearly as controversial to the public (or at least your fam) as you think.
wait does thinking you're a 1 mean you're automatically a 2? I thought it was different. in her levels video she made it sound like if you're a 1 you just stay a one no matter what.
"Karma is the consequence of an action." - Nanoo, ‘Girl from Nowhere’
The pyramid structure & majority being the base could just be looked @ as where the majority of people stay? Just a thought.
I think this video made me realize I am on the journey to enlightenment and now I'm like wtf shit didn't mean to do that seems like it would me better to stay as I am but also I want to learn everything like I can't shake the feeling there is more I want to know I have been consuming belief systems and cultures like crazy and like even now I can tell I don't even know how much stuff I don't know but I feel like that's all ok and I will take my time and build my views on the foundation of my core beliefs that are deep down inside me somewhere and use the knowledge I consume through my life experience to build them up but that will take time experience and allot of self reflection and examination to try understand myself. I'm only 15 I don't even know what job I want so I definitely need to focus on reality and my present too sometimes I get so swept up in thought I forget I have a life and school and stuff lol so I need to balance that spiritual journey with my present reality if I want to have that journey I think alsooo I still need to find motivation to actually try in anything which I'm still stumped on I have heard people talk about meditation and learning about ones self for that so now that I'm at this point in my journey I think it might tie in together but not even sure yet
typing this out actually helped a bit so that's cool
thank you allot for this video it means allot to me and your content as a hole has been a god send for me since I was having a little bit of a problem with my gender identity and I think I was conflating stuff with gender that shouldn't be conflated and your content helped me so thank you I wish you the your best life and hope you continue to make amazing content
I wish you well on your journey 🥰
@@BrittanySimon so i think i reached a conclusion i am a 2 and dont care about it idk if i will ever go to a different level but idc i just want to understand other people better and also have my views based in facts and then anything subjective i want it to be thought out fair and compatible with me and like idk maybe ill end up on another level but there is plenty of stuff for me to learn as a 2 and plenty happiness so idk also thank you your super awesome a great content creator and its cool as heck to me that you replied to me
@@adam4326 I am happy for you ♡ Thank you so much for sharing an update. I love to hear it!
4 is Johnny Depp
this is all so interesting i found this thru ur vids on sneako who ive been watching for a few years and your theory is very exiting trying to observe the difference behaviours of ppl around me is always enjoyable and your theory gives a lense to categorise and bring order to what you actually observe, but there are problems with personal supremacy, narcissism and exclusivity almost cult like functions ,, i don’t necessarily think this us bad i think its cool to analyse and understand but when im watching something and notice myself trying to self determine which level i would be, it gives me astrology vibes like the people who need to determine their separation from others (thru looking at comments) i imagine any level system of sepparation will have an affect on ppl where they still blind themselves to critiques of that system, for example the way you talk about religion,, to mark it on the level system the ppls who form and lead religions would be 4s 3s and A2s ppl that would fit into 4 have a grasp on most function of the world and how we interact but lack peace and form religions as a way of teaching themselves their peace thru their truth helping others understand life as well, 3s editing and shaping the religion as it becomes more of an organisation than a belief set or view , and then A2s who would organise and create their own hegemony over the religion and the rest of the followers being other 2 categories.
I’d like to think my brother who is on the low functioning part of autism spectrum(He’s non verbal) could be a 5. He can’t speak, so how could you or anyone assume what is going on inside his head?
That is a very good question ♡ I don't think it really matters if others know what we are, so much as our ability to know ourselves. People say I am not a 5 and maybe I'm not. That is indeed the fun of figuring it out 🥰
Well if ultimately what you're interested is understanding the self there is a thing called Shadow work which explores your subconscious your subconscious beliefs and where those beliefs stem from which are usually experiences some of which could have been traumatic Social Work helps you find these traumatic experiences and the beliefs you formed because of it. My belief is that if you have beliefs that stem from trauma then subconsciously that trauma will make decisions for you but once you bring that from the subconscious to the conscious and become aware of it then you're able to change it according to your desire
I've commented on the initial video about levels saying that the naming of "levels" is part of the confusion people have with the system. After thinking about it more, a better naming convention would be "Dimensions". It implies a difference at certain ranges of a factor without implying a sense of one being better or a need to progress.
The 5 Dimensions of Introspection.
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Okay, around 12:30 the question becomes "Why use the term 'fools' when describing 2's?", which never gets answered. Immediately you jump into talking about IQ and academia, how you don't like that only once going through academia are you considered knowledgeable at something, which then goes into you asking your own question about intelligence and its association to enlightenment. Seems like quite the pivot and dodging of the question that clearly, by calling people fools, is a result of judging ego putting others down for being lesser. Appears as if a defensive dodge; or to give you the benefit of the doubt, a jumbled ADHD mind that never comes to an answer that could also be a mask used to dodge. Hmm. Not the first time I've noticed the appearance of a seeming mask on you. Third time actually.
Fool isn't an insult to me but could be to 2s, so I stopped using that word in my current work.
This was incredibly enlightening. I learned a lot. Thank you for clarifying these stages!
Thank you for watching ♡
I would be extremely interested in seeing how motherhood looks on Brittany.
Here's hoping 🥰
@@BrittanySimon Full support here, my guy. It's a wild ride in all the ways. ♡
10:10 I thought it would be explained at some point later in the podcast. Just curious about it. Is it a story worth telling or not something that needs to be talked about.
I don't think either of us are willing to have that convo in public yet. I dont think the experience is universal, so it's not important for others to know ♡
I got your sweater humans gonna human and I wanted to post it somewhere but I think you said you don't really have social media? just wanted to say I love your videos! :D
Omg thank you so much!! I hope you love it!
@@BrittanySimon i do!! Its so comfortable!! 😊
The vocal fry coming from the other person is so distracting 😅
Are there parallels between this model and Spiral Dynamics?
I haven't read the book yet, but I will eventually ♡
I Need help determining what level I am currently
I think if I'm understanding the levels correctly then I became a 4 who was trying to be a 2 because it was too much to handle. And in recent years finally broke through some walls and healed in my mind and heard the right words to be a 5. But it seems like a really toxic way of talking about it just because of what number systems does to our mind.
I love Brittany time 😗
I really think I’m a 2, borderline 3 perhaps 🤔
Was the end mute for anyone else?
I always play out the ending song over the end and keep rolling. I mute it on purpose
Would a serial killer be a 1? I feel they're the ultimate victims. They kill other people for their own shortcomings.
Your idea of levels sounds familiar to Leo Gura’s interpretation of Spiral Dynamics.
It depends on your definition of “God”
I know you were dismissive of people finding you arrogant for seeming to claim you have all the answers, and maybe it’s just because I am a level 2 that can’t comprehend what your saying, but that’s really how you come across through out parts of this.
You talk about the importance of humility but yet completely contradict that by saying you “don’t think that anybody could shatter your understanding of your existence, because what could they tell me”.
First off like you say, you can’t be taught this stuff, you need to discover it. And yes you can discover stuff through the words of other people, BUT you have the be primed to be accepting of that info so you can have that epiphany moment within yourself.
But with statements like the one you made, it sounds like you are way too sure that you’ve found the universal answers to life’s most vexing questions, and that comes across as arrogant.
Especially, when you repeatedly responded to questions by saying everything is so “individualistic”, I struggle to understand why you can be so confident you found the only true answers. If you can see the nuance and uniqueness of everyone’s journey, how can you be so sure there’s just one destination of enlightenment? I think an example of humans gonna human is how we want simplified explanations to everything, even things that are complex or things that just can’t be known. I think metaphors are good tools for simplifying concepts, but a pyramid or skyscraper or any other tiered ranking system will never succeed at acutely describing humans and existence. There are so many dimensions to people, that we can never visually create a model to represent it because our perception is limited to just 3 spatial dimensions.
I’m not saying I think your completely wrong about this, you make a lot of good points I already agreed with along with some others I hadn’t considered. I think you are intelligent and it’s great that you’ve had vastly different experiences as a result of continuously adapting your world view, I just hope you don’t stifle yourself by cementing your beliefs so strong that they can’t be broken in lieu of better ideas, because hell, I’m sure you didn’t know you were wrong in the moment when you were on the right or when you were an SJW, so what the difference with your beliefs now.
I admit, I far from understand the whole concept of the levels yet. I will continue watching the remaining videos on the levels playlist and will revise my comment if needed, but from the first 2 videos(almost 3hours of content) these are my opinions. I’m new to your channel but overall I like what your doing. Im probably gonna sub, as long as the levels don’t get too wacky lol
Thanks for considering my ideas. Here's another way to think of "shattering realities."
No one could tell me a truth that would shatter my sense of self because my core is rooted in discovery of what is real versus what I want.
When I was a 2, new information shattered my reality, now, new information just adds to my expirence ♡
Question, I know you like Aba and preach, where would you put Aba. I'm unsure
2B ♡
Seems like a very comprehensive video. I think this is helping to get more of a grasp on your system. Really helped to hear the ideas bounced around.
Definitely wouldn't feel completely confident summarising it to someone. Feel I’m getting it more.
I know people, society, and the world terrifies me. Though, I have good wishes for them. So, much so that at 19, I thought as I thought I was taking my last breaths I accepted I didn't know what came next. I didn't know if there was an afterlife, or if it was worse. I wanted out of this world yesterday. I'm pretty certain that would exclude a 1, and maybe a 5.
Many of what I do I wonder if it's futile. I probably feel stronger than you that we can change the world. Not so much single handedly. Even politically. Though it will only be slightly to set some things in motion. I believe strongly in harm reduction. If I could influence that in any way, even minuscule, and then be away from this world. That would be great.
Sadly the government/ society fears me for not wishing to live and basically sees me as a criminal. Arguably they see me as worse than one. In many ways, they gave me fewer rights than murderers.
We have the same cup
You have a fundamental misunderstanding of what IQ is or how it is measured. IQ and the tests used to gauge it are independent of language, academic ability or understanding or modern mathematical concepts. It largely revolves around pattern recognition and is independent of your level of education.
In my personal opinion is that IQ is a factor in how quickly one could reach higher levels of understanding or reality, or what you call "levels". I believe this because coming to these realisations requires one to be perceptive of the environment and their own consciousness, which then allows them to analyse and come to said realisations.
I think ive been stuck as a three for awhile
That Sam Harris comment is insane to me
OMG! I'm just at the part where you talk about Hitler. I really like that you put him as a 2, because you're right. I feel the same and I have thought about this man and figure of symbolism often times. He was a very talented man and his story is very complex. You need to know, that when I talked about this stuff people looked at me weirdly. As an Austrian this topic is very taboo and people have alot of opinions, but not open minds, because there is so much collective trauma in our country still. edit: at 1:59:32 you literally said my exact thoughts out loud .. now I know I'm a 4 for sure.. sweet baby jesus..
I always imagine that humans think in layers. The first layer is what life presents to us. Some humans just assume that is it and bam, life. Others start to wonder IF there is anything below that and start to dig.
Some dig into a place not many go and some get tired and stop halfway through. Either way, knowledge comes in layers and must be discovered by the individual , it cannot be forced on to the masses.
I'm here again... Lol... I think a 4/5 may volunteer/ be an activate to relieve suffering. I understand it doesn't actually "matter" or make any difference as such but I am motivated to relief suffering especially that of animals that have been negatively impacted by human error. I feel better for taking responsibility for that. Any thoughts? X
Yes! Absolutely! I think at some point, people do what they want and think is good versus what they think they should. The motivation is different♡ i think it's lovely to participate in community efforts.