Briggs 5HP Broken Recoil Spring and Starter Clutch Fix
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- čas přidán 2. 07. 2024
- My method to replace a broken recoil spring and service the starter clutch on an older Briggs and Stratton 5HP engine, mounted on Roto-Hoe Model 910-3 rear tine tiller. This repair is the same for the entire range of 2-10HP horizontal shaft engines.
Starting around 40 minutes or so into @topconker2909 Top Conkers Saturday Livestream, watch in real time, the eventual fix of that awful screeching clutch: czcams.com/users/live_Q7jSBMxrZo
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00:00 I'm not Jerry
00:59 Overview of problems
02:27 Remove recoil starter shroud
04:58 Remove and replace broken starter spring
15:34 Test start up
16:42 Remove starter clutch
18:37 Clean crankshaft and starter clutch
21:12 Reassemble starter clutch
25:11 The money shot (Not!)
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Wear your safety glasses, or you'll shoot your eye out. Try on some gloves. Take off that spark plug boot. Clean your room. Open the windows, those fumes are nasty. Just 'cause I do it, don't think it's the end all, be all solution. There's plenty more ideas out there, I can't take responsibility if you slice off a few fingers after watching my videos. And don't just pour that toxic stuff down the sewer or in the ditch, dispose of waste responsibly. Just be safe, OK?
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If you enjoyed this video, or it helped you, please consider clicking on the "THANKS" button above. 🙏 Watch this video for another resurrection of an old lawnmower: czcams.com/video/HACl7l8NuqI/video.html
Love you, Lawnmower Lady!
Bright, experienced, innovative, encouraging, humble, funny - and personable!
You bring positive vibes to the backyard challenges we all face.
We could only wish for a neighbor like you.
I've watched a number of your videos and they have helped me fix and maintained several machines over the years.
I love how you can say 'obtuse' and 'thingy''in one sentence - as well as a nod to 'centripedal' force.
Clever hack with the melted notch!
Thanks for the detailed jump into the starter clutch assembly - that's why I came to your video.
Good thought to use the abrasive on in the drill to clean inside that starter clutch piece.
Great process and Great comments!
I'm happy to help, and really appreciate you watching. Cheers!
Hey thanks for the tip of burning the notch in! I've worked on numerous Stihl saws & they come with the notch. Makes it so much easier! I just replaced the spring on a Little Wonder Edger that my Dad bought new in around 1978. We've maintained it meticulously & it starts every time on the 2nd pull! Thank you again!
Glad to help. I appreciate you watching. Cheers!
Great video Stella. I hate messing with those recoil springs. Have a great day!
They are a challenge for sure 😁
I had both tangs break - definitely a tricky project with my found 3hp roto tiller - you helped me a great deal
Glad I could help. Cheers!
Those little starter ratchets can be a pain in the butt . I usually just get a new one . Thanks for this video .
Believe me, I wanted to do a lot more work on this machine, but he had a budget, and that precluded not much more than the normal maintenance items (filters, plugs, etc.). Thanks for watching. Cheers!
Praise the Lord! That's the exact same parts in my 8 horse I have on my sawmill
Well done on such a clear narration & excellent framing
I appreciate you watching. Cheers!
Wow…. I was wondering if your customer had found this ‘Roto Hoe’ in someone’s free to take pile, and wanted to get it to run. I love these resurrection videos!
He actually brought me three pieces of equip, all in equally bad shape. I sort of asked him that question, and he was very insistent they all belonged to him, and all three were running great last year. I have my doubts... I editing his lawnmower resurrection video. It's a doozie as well :) Cheers!
@@TheLawnmowerLady By the way, thanks for the link to the Conkers video with the final repair. Aside from the fact that those guys have an amazing wealth of knowledge, they are a hoot to listen to as well. Glad you finally got this machine sorted
@@Inisfad I throughly enjoy shooting the breeze with those guys when I can. Great bunch.
@@TheLawnmowerLady
I barter with my computer guy for repairs. He brought me 4 pieces to work on and it wasn’t until I was done with the third that it dawned on me that these might all very well be his curb finds. In the end I guess it doesn’t really matter because I’m still getting my Apple equipment repaired or replaced. 😉
Really enjoyed it Stella as well as watching the repair live on Conks! Well done. Great tip to make your own notch in the rope rotor, I do the same thing - it saves you from cutting up your nice new rope! :)
Thanks 👍 I had the great help from the best of the best. It was a fun afternoon!
That was a great video Stella, I like the old machines
Glad you enjoyed it. Cheers!
Great video, and I watched the live stream and saw the fix with talking to the guys. Can’t wait to see your other videos on this.
Awesome! Thank you!
I have never seen that done before!! Definitely learned something new today!!
Thank you so much for sharing!! 🐺😁
You are so welcome!
Excellent video. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Your knowledge is Amazing!
I appreciate that! Lots of trial and error :) Cheers!
Super job on an old piece of equipment, yep those old recoils are a real pain in the butt to change the spring. but you did an excellent job. Your way works fine for us but i will send you all of ours to install new springs since you are now the expert and i do not have the patience anymore. Thanks for shouting out Top Conkers live stream would be nice to see 250 watching this coming Saturday at 2pm EST lots of good people on the panel that are always ready to help out with viewers questions.
I couldn't have done it without all y'all's help! When I changed my first spring out, years ago, I looked for a video. Lots of re-roping repairs, chainsaw, and lawnmower recoil spring videos, but nothing on these older horizontal engines. I bumbled through the process on my own. That microscopic page of instructions that comes with the new spring was no help whatsoever. I hope this video helps someone trying to change that spring. Cheers Mr Wayne!
@@TheLawnmowerLady Stella i am sure it will help someone but what a pain eh? Did not even hear one vulgar word or a beep during the video totally amazing!
thank you for making this video
My pleasure! It was a challenge in many ways 😂
nice one Stella, and well explained 👍
Thank you! Cheers!
My lord what a name - this gave me some great laughs! Roto Hoe and loosing balls - dear lord - haha! Epic video Stella - only Briggs from the good old days like this eternal-machine will keep on working! Cheers!
😁 I know. Right? I couldn't pass up making some light hearted fun with that really unfortunate brand name. Thanks for watching Anders. Cheers!
You rock that Roto Hoe Stella what a name I think you got a side gig with the comedy 😆🎤🥁🥁 So cool to get them old machines running 👍
😁 Thanks, I do try!
For a crusty one - it sure runs nice. Good one Stella - thanks - hope you'll get to run on it's own
I did rebuild the carb, 3 passes in the ultrasonic cleaner, it was a mess. That video will be out soon. It was running well when he picked it up, in no small part to your help. Cheers!
That was fun.
It was, with all the help from you experts!
Great video. Showed me how to repair my starter clutch instead of buying a new one
Great to hear!
Nice tool pleasure watching Stella 😎
Thanks for watching!
@@TheLawnmowerLady pleasure Stella
That recoil replacement worked good for you Stella. I remember doing one on a 1960s B & S mower with an alloy pulley. I had the spring uncoiled and clip the end onto the pulley. Close the tangs on the shroud and then wind up the pulley to the last, and then uncoil slightly to line up the hole for to install the rope. Only thing is you would need a good wrist 😅.
Someone else mentioned something similar. I honestly don't see a lot of these for a new spring, but I will try that next time. I appreciate you watching!
If I’d known there’d be real time repairs with no editing in the livestreams I might actually watch them! 😂🔧👍
I enjoy hanging out with those guys, sort of like a night out at the pub.
Your awesome!
Wow that’s a rusty looking machine, didn’t think it would run like it did. Good job Miss Stella
IT was a challenge in many ways, LOL. Thanks for watching.
Nice job Stella, now I'll have to watch the other video to see the mystery solved. 🙂👍
Thanks John! It was a fun day for sure.
Anytime and it sure looked like it.
ms LLL - as always, thank you for posting - regards, dLL
My pleasure!
Never liked replacing the spring in them😊
No fun at all. And those microscopic instructions that come with the new spring, are pretty worthless too. Thanks for watching!
I wish people would take care of there old equipment. This stuff was well built. Just sad people giving up on the old stuff. I understand it takes time sometimes but it's worth it in the end. The new stuff just junk. This is not junk this is awesome stuff.
I agree! I appreciate you watching. Cheers!
@@TheLawnmowerLady I am getting running a 1975 Briggs and Stratton 5 horsepower motor log splitter been in my family for 50 years. Has not run in 18 years but it was stored in my uncle's barn and we use fuel stabilizer and fog the carburetor back in 2008. Just doesn't have spark almost there it getting it fired up.
Being that old, I suspect points and condenser on the ignition might be the spark issue. If a bit of fine sandpaper on the points faces doesn't do the trick, I recall seeing other creators replace the coil with an electronic ignition module, eliminating the points. The videos I've seen show a direct swap out with no modification. I think @donyboy73 and @StevesSmallEngineSaloon both have videos on this. Hope this helps.
@@TheLawnmowerLady yes it does have points
Rotate the engine till the points are closed. Double over a tiny strip of fine sand paper (400 grit is good). Use a screwdriver to open the points, insert the paper strip and pull it out. Repeat 6-8 pulls. Apologies if you already know this...
Replacing the springs are easy. Clean everything. Undo your new spring. Assembly: 1 Fit the pulley and bend your tabs in. 2 Take the new spring and straighten the inside coil a little. 3 Look at the starter thru the hole that the spring gets anchored on. Then turn the pulley to get a clear line of sight to the pulley anchor hole. Have your starter rope handy ready to insert into the rope hole. At this stage you have the pulley installed fully. You have the new old rope attached to the stater handle. And the new spring laying there with the inside coil slightly slightly straightened. Now to install the spring. You will need your long nosed pliers handy. 1 Insert the straightened part of the spring up to and thru the pulley anchor. Draw it back out far enough to twist and make it catch on the pulley. With the spring caught by the pulley, start winding the spring into the starter housing. As the other end of the spring gets closer to the housing use your long nosed pliers to stop the entire spring from being pulled into the starter. Guide the spring into the outer anchor. Your spring and pulley are now installed.
Fit the Rope. Have your rope ready at the complete length required. Install the starter handle. Have a nice clean end on the starter rope.
This part is identical to fitting a rope to these starter.
Wind your starter pulley by hand all the way till the spring starts binding a little. You need to keep hold of everything. The allow the pulley to wind back to the first possible starter pulley rope alignment. At that point insert the rope into the hole. Drag it thru all the way. Then let go of your pulley. The correct length rope for your application is now installed at the correct tension for your application. Hope i didn't miss anything. Briggs Trained Tech
I would love to see a video of this. Honestly the first time I tried this (several years ago) I looked at the instructions in the spring package, and decided it was way complicated, hence I figured another idea. Thanks for that info.
@@TheLawnmowerLady I will make one for you to access. If i can't find a starter here I will let you know.
I couldn't find the exact starter, But I have made one for you to cover more current machines. Where do i send the video ?
@@rolfgrosseholz1311 Thank you!!! lawnmowerlady77 (at) gmail
@@TheLawnmowerLady The link I left has the video.
Can't believe that just fired up
I know. Right?
😂😂😂😂 great show 👏
Tnx
Happy to help.
I take it your name’s not JeNNy either! 😉😂
Nope, LOL
Take model and serial number cut it off the old blower housing and pop rivet onto the other one
That works too.
Not a jolly Ho Ho Ho
For a tiller No Go
A gift keeps giving
At times unforgiving
Built afore Hip Hop
Now in the Shop
The Roto- Hoe
Steals the Show
A coiled spring
Does, misery, Sing
Gets no Respect
Only gross neglect
Stella cleans some
Then much..No Fun!
Squealing persists
Across Pond Assist
Repair takes a turn
To past we return
Referral to a link
'Jerry' gives a wink!
LIKE #83👍
I wish I had your talent. Your prose brings a smile to my face. Cheers!
How did I miss this one?
It was a fun one, for sure!
@@TheLawnmowerLady I went back and watched the Top Conc video. I missed that one. Usually I watch him, but with the better weather I spend Saturday in the garage and yard instead of watching the CZcams.
That is definitely a Old school rear tine tiller
I'm actually surprised this didn't throw those belts. Thanks for watching!
@@TheLawnmowerLady your welcome young lady 💐🌹
0:50 Try the veal
Hahaha!
Hi Stella
Good Video. IF It Was Me I Would Put A Smear Of Grease On The Shaft.. I Think Those Guys Talk A Lot Of Crap On Their Live Stream , That's Why I Don't Subscribe To There Channel. I Also Work On Small Engines Here In Australia
A thin film of light oil on the cranks shaft was the fix. Thanks for watching,
Thats NOT HOW YOU WIND A B&S Spring
I roto a hoe.. sorry i mean i had a roto hoe lol
Rode??? LOL!
@@TheLawnmowerLady lol