Vampire Counts vs Wood Elf Realms | Warhammer The Old World Battle Report
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- čas přidán 24. 05. 2024
- Emerging from the safety of a once great fortress, now decrepit and crumbling, the vampire counts ride forth to defend their territory against an encroaching foe.
As the wood elves seek to expand their realms beyond the known borders, they cannot abide the rotting stench of death and the dark magics of the undead.
Clashing head on, both forces determined to expand and defend their empires, the war between the natural world and the risen dead rages on. Will the elven forces be able to vanquish the once mighty vampire lords, or will death triumph in destroying the invading forces of the wood elf realms.
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I love that you are doing Old World reps! This is amazing
Oh hell yeah!
My only issue with Tabletop Tactics Old World bat reps is that there are not enough of them!!!!
Beautiful Armies and Great Players!!! Keep it up!
Apologies for the late release everybody! Looks like Grotty failed to schedule it. Enjoy the show! ❤🕷️
I will never forgive you for this Grotty. Consider this the start of a blood fued
@tylerframpton2113 The little monster has scampered off into a corner. I think he’s trying to hide. 😶🌫️
Would be so kind and share the source of those beautiful Wood elves Figurines?
@@tabletoptactics Now I feel bad.. Fued over
Youre back! I swear i havent seen you in a while! Although, you need to play 40k !
Love the way you guys highlight the figurines when going over the army lists, the closeups are very much appreciated!
😂 it's my favourite it of battle reports
Those wood elves look incredible
It would be great to have a video showcasing the armies or showing how they were made/painted.
@@stephenmercerProductions I'd love to see that
Agreed, simply amazing, would love to know where these were bought! The non GW stuff at least, the dragon and warhawk mage look amazing
@@bjornhouben2594 Not sure about the Dragon be everything else looks kit bashed from AoS and Blood Bowl. The warhawk looks like it created using Alarielle's wings, the tail is the front bark cloth off of a Treelord, the body looks like it is Belthanos. The scouts are a mix of Idoneth Deepkin Namarti Reaver bodies and Wildwood Rangers heads. The Wild Riders look like the Snarlfang Riders wolves with the original Wild Riders.
@@AllfortheKurnothi thanks man! Time to buy some stuff haha
Thanks for the old world content the game really deserves every bit attention it can get.
Lawrence, in a vampire counts army your general must be a wizard (page 4 of the PDF) so your vampire lord can't be your general if he's not a wizard.
Ah, that’s a good catch! Thanks for the reference. So in this list, the Necromancer would have to be the general then. Probably worth shifting some gear around to make my vampire a wizard in that case I think!
@@tabletoptactics also, idk if it was being done off-screen, but every time the sceptre of de noirot is used, you have to roll to see if you wound yourself on a 1 :)
@MrTudesauce Yeah we did that off screen :)
Glade Lord has the Strike First ability
The zombie dragon looks insane! Btw, I love the fun chemistry in the battle report, makes the whole game come alive. Looking forward to seeing more batreps from you.
Jinx (40:47) - "The spell is cast but you cannot cast any further spells this turn."
Jinx (40:59) - "The spell didn't go off."
😄
In this case, what value is it cast on for dispelling?
@@cb3065 it's all in the miscast table... On 8&9's it's "cast at its casting value, for the purpose of dispel attempts"... If it has multiple casting values, iirc you take the lowest of them... On 10 through 12s it counts as a perfect invocation....
Invocation should be putting back wizard level plus D3 grave guard, not just D3.
Love the wood elves converted out of AOS models. The archers from the Idoneth are basically invisible and I wouldn't have noticed were it not for the fact that I painted 20 of those things lol
Very subtle and cool kitbashes on the Wood Elf side! A sweet conflict between two of my favs on the channel too! 🧛🏻♂️ 🧝♀️
So sick! I love seeing the dragons hit the table. So hype to build and paint one for my Warriors of Chaos!
The battle cry that strikes fear in the hearts of elves and men .... I'M TOUGHNESS SIX!!!
Oh this is a fun one! My two favorite races!
Grotty is forgiven for its mishap/forgetting to schedule the latest battle report today because your fabulous battle report's are Awesome & love the special effects, banter, jinx's unlucky roll's, etc, & excellent episodes 👌
Thank you!
That was a great game, those dragons need a stern talking to I think. Not so much unstoppable force vs immovable object as just two immovable objects looking at eachother menacingly, lol.
Absolutely loved seeing Wood Elves, gorgeously painted too!
I didn't think you could write an intro where the vamps were just like "let us exist, bro" and the evil wood elves were like "no we're gonna genocide you, bro. Die!" And have it make sense. Good work guys!
One thing you missed about the Sceptpr of De Noir. Whenever you use it, you have to roll a d6. On a 1, the user loses a wound. So you can kill your necromancer by using it if you're not careful!
Love the return to old would 10:22 . But Jinx, the Wild Riders have frenzy, you mentioned it when the wolves charged. +1 attack for the rider and mount.
actually it does not apply to the mount. Like written p.171 : "This modifier does not apply to the model’s mount (in the case of a cavalry model), to the beasts that draw
it (in the case of a chariot), or to its rider (in the case of a monster)."
Just FYI, the wild riders should have been able to counter charge and destroy the dogs before they even got to fight and same for the black knights. Counter charge is so good😊
beautifully painted armies, extremely fun players and awesome Old World content! Love it!!
You cannot use the shield on the Vampire to improve the Zombie dragon's save, only the rider's. So either way youll max out at a 4+ armour save. So you might as well be a wizard and leave it behind.
Where do U get this from? P. 204 U just use the better save. Mounted characters are totally different then in old editions.
@@kueppe the FAQ
@@HughMurphy395 ah old school GW. However the wording is again meh. The shield doesn't improve the monsters armor save, but I am not using the monsters armor save to begin with (since it he rider got the better save). I am officially confused ;)
@@kueppe You can either use the Dragon's full plate (4+ save), or the rider's save, which can be at best heavy armour and shield (4+ save). Either way neither can be improved to the 3+ save they were using in this game.
@@HughMurphy395 The Vampire can use armour of silvered steel but then cant cast also a waste of points.
Having some Lawrence camp made my day. Ty all, I really needed it!!
Those Direwolfs remind me so much about the Resident Evil Zombie Hounds ... i LOVE it.
Take more Zombies next time and make it 'Medieval Raccon City' hehe ^^
Yeah I can see that, you’re right!
Wow those Elves look incredible 😍
Wild riders have countercharge.
Thanks for the catch, we’ll try and remember for next time :)
@@tabletoptactics Happy to help! I played them today myself and it made wonders for their survivability to be able to strike first and take away alot of the opponents attacks.
You actually can't counter charge dogs (if you were talking about the T1 charges), since they're not cavalry, chariots or monsters. The three of them could have maybe used it against the black knights, though eyeballing it they might have been too close.
@@assistantref5084 Good catch, I was well aware of the movement aspect to the rule but had completly forgotten about only being able to counter charge certain unit types. Fortunatly in my game I countercharged Inner Circle Knights so no accidental cheating.
It feels like a bit of an oversight IMO that you can't counter-charge war beasts. It makes them extremely strong into cavalry since you get the speed advantage without opening yourself up being counter-charged. They also usually have access to vanguard, which makes them even better at that role.
Well done! You have mastered your technique! You have perfected the art of the battle report. Beautifully painted amazing editing and charming banter.
holy hell! Those armies look amasing!!!
Well I checked for this video right on time
Same
Oh wow took me a bit longer
Incredible Wood elf army! Thanks for continuing the great Old World reports!
Ouch, talk about one sided. GG!!
Speed of the Raven!
Thank you for more OLD WORLD content. That’s why I’m a member! Love it! One thing, vortexes are always moving, so if you roll a hit on the scatter dice, use the little arrow to determine the direction. ;)
Is this true? I find the scatter dice application very confusing in tow! Got a page reference for the rule and how it actually means we should use the scatter for this? I assume the same application for things like fanatics too…!?
@@Become_The_Hero something only scatters with the scatter dice, if it says "scatter". If something moves in a random direction you could use whatever means you like to determine that direction. If you use the scatter dice, the "hit" means nothing.
@@TheGeneralGarcia mmm that’s a nice way of thinking about it. I question it a little because the scatter dice is mentioned explicitly in the rulebook and GW Intend us to use their scatter dice. It’s a good line of logic though and sounds like a sensible approach to me
I've heard it both ways :))
@@Become_The_Hero Historically when something moved in a random direction the small arrow was used. That's why it's there. But we found no mention of the exact way of figuring out a random direction in the Old World basic rulebook.
Awesome batrep, more old world! 😀
We want more old world!
good fun battle report as always 🤘🏻
Good video guys, pretty enjoyable!
Wild riders have counter charge and thr dire wolves are counted as cav
Love your Old World batreps, wouls love it if you made more! Specially if they contain the real heroes, the Skaven!
Fun, good vibes and beautiful miniatures !
Nice. Old World Content.
OLD WORLD
Love Old World!
Lawrence is the best Vampire Count general! It doesn’t matter if he win or lose :)
Buzzin!!!!
13:25 That moment when you realise you forgot to turn off "Shadow in the Warp" 😮
Thank you.
Love it!
love the intro!
More TOW BPs! Please!
Friendly reminder, invocation is wizard lvl + d3 for heavy infantry/ infantry :)
Excellent dragon fight!
Really fun to watch :)
That WE army looks excellent. Is that the carmine dragon mini?
We need more Old World 😊
Yes, Go Lawrence
Stubborn is FBIGO not Give Ground. FYI.
More Old World! Bretonnia VS WE? 😃
Moooore old world!!!!
Just a beginner here, so I got two questions: what rule allows the Vampire Lord the Ward Save (of a 5+?)? And the Necromancer casts Vanhels on the Grave Guard, but they were not in his arc of vision - do I miss something? Thanks!
No worries - the vampire’s ward save is on his data profile in the pdf. Vanhel’s I can’t remember, but I seem to think it didn’t require the vision arc, I’ll have to check the spell.
@@tabletoptactics Can't find the ward save in data sheet. But you do have a regeneration of 5+ though.
Jinx!!! I always know it’s going to be a great video every time she’s on! Plus she’s playing my favorite faction!
WOOD ELVES MY BELOVED ❤️❤️❤️
Yesss let’s go!
A dance of toughness 6 dragons
More please
beautiful armies!
great production but tidy up on the rules, you missed important rules for the wood elves
Hi guys, could someone tell me where in the rule book it says magical attacks ignore ward saves? I’ve looked everywhere and cant find it
I can't remember what specifically they were using in the game, but it's far more likely that whatever the armour/ability was provided a ward save against non-magical attacks, rather than there being a general rule about it
I had an enchanted shield giving me the wars save which specifically only worked against non - magical attacks 😊 - jinx
Twigs vs bones! Who's gonna win?!
"Emerging from the safety of a once great Fortress, now decrepit and crumbling"
Me too, Fortress, me too..
Lol
I think the woodelves tree spirits only lose their regen saves to flaming attacks because they are flammable....I don't think just any magical attack ignores that unless it specifically states...am I wrong?
Beautiful armies
Does Sword of Kings not have a killing blow? Shouldn’t the dragon have died much earlier?
Incredible painting, captivating performances, but fall short on rules. I like to watch videos to learn the rules of the game and armies; I worry I won’t play correctly. Next hire is some obsessed rule lawyer to complete the trifecta?
Wild Riders have counter charge...
It felt like Undead vs children in its one sided-ness 😢
Also the dragon lord saves just seem so silly..save,ward save and the Regen save..I mean come on it doesn’t make for much fun ..unless you’re the Zombie Dragon just can’t die Lord live forever thingamajig 😂
Old world yeah!!!!
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Sceptre of de Noirot requires you to roll a D6 each time you use it and take a wound if you roll a 1. I don't think you did this the whole game. Fun game to watch though a bit one sided.
I did mention that we did those rolls off camera somewhere during the game. Apologies for the confusion. We tend to minimise a lot of the Strategy Phase admin and do that off camera to keep the pace higher :)
@@tabletoptactics Sorry I missed that!
HYYYYPE
I believe you got the Miscast table wrong Jinx...
8-9 Barely Controlled Power: The Wizard manages to control the magic, but at the expense of great power. The spell is cast (at its casting value, for the purpose of dispel attempts). However, you cannot attempt to cast any more spells for the remainder of the current turn.
So he could've try to dispell it.
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Super mobile Wood elves definitely shouldn't be getting charged this much by the slow undead 🤣movement and pre-measuring are some of the most important things to master
Yes! #metalasfuck
Will we ever get more AoS content, or has it been fully replaced by the old world?
As soon as 4th edition drops, we’ll be covering AoS again. So not long to wait :)
@@tabletoptactics Great! Looking forward to it
🐙🐙🐙🐙🐙🐙🤙👍
age of sigmar 4.0 videos will come?
Yes :)
@@tabletoptactics awesome, i would also like to see some spearhead
I know she said something in the beginning but for the life of me I couldn't hear a word
Intro monologue is in the video description... In case you actually want to know and weren't just making a point about the sound mixing...
So many rules wrong in this game! Really wish the most beautiful and most fun to watch channel also was best at the rules!
Old World is a fairly dense ruleset and given that we play multiple games and armies here, can be tricky to get right, hence why we’re still learning :)
@@tabletoptactics Me too! We will all get it in time
Kinda sad that no AoS content is shown anymore.
We will try AoS again when 4th edition drops :)
Petition to fire all content creators who use the word "Skelebobs"
I hate to say it, but while I think your videos are entertaining, honestly, for a channel called Tabletop Tactics, your games really don't employ much tactics..
We try and get a variety of games in. Our battle reports are usually more casual. Our League Reports are more competitive. If we do an Old World League then, you would see that there :)
@tabletoptactics .....the 40k app/league you built...but for fantasy.....? 😮😮
Correct. We have the capability and plan to launch it, but will likely launch Sigmar first as we assume it is a bigger audience, but we’ll see if that’s true when it launches :)
@@tabletoptacticsaos bigger audience than old world?
Am i too old to understand todays trends in wargaming? 😅
Well technically Old World is ‘new’ and hasn’t been supported or around for the last ten years or so.
It may well prove to be more popular than Sigmar by the end of the year, but we’ll see how it all pans out :)
Sry to be that guy but the narrative doesn't scan with established lore, the Wood elves arent expansionist in fact they barely ever leave their home that is Loren Forest.
at least that was the lore back when i used to play Warhammer Fantasy Battle.
Production value is great but you forget and overlook so many rules it's like I'm watching a different game. Can you not afford someone who knows the rules to watch and help referee? I want to watch videos that help me understand the rules not the opposite