I feel like you overcorrected that correction. Accuracy reduced to 20% means reduced by 80%, so not really that different from the 90 you mistakenly said. The demoralized squad is not combat effective either way, so your original point stands.
Omg, I must've been so tired from staring at the screen I interpreted that as "reduced BY 20%", so yeah looks like Editor Jagus needs to issue an apology.
I've learnt a lot by watching you and mr.landsharks cast, thanks. Starting to learn how to play chaos atm. The early defense is so good. And the fight with bloodthirster is just chaos. :D
I remember the pre patch (the one and only offical patch ever for SS) Dais of Destruction. The Dark Scythe ability squad wiped any full hp infantry unit in its radius. Fun times for DE players.
A lot of the time I’m pressuring on the relic, and making ‘questionable’ trades, the goal is to keep denying his relic and to keep that gen unbuilt. That gen was unbuilt for like 5 mins, and he didn’t have an LP built on the relic for like 9 mins. At 8:25 I knew there were too many marines there, I go in just for the heretic snipe. Definitely some micro mistakes from me, but I think it’s a pretty good example of one of the few semi-reliable ways to win this matchup. Especially considering the distraction of Vietnamese/Spanish/Swedish autists in vc 😂
Do you think Scourges did anything useful? They are so squishy and expensive while Wytches with their squad leader and drugs dish out good ranged damage to all units while on the move.
From what I can gather from watching AlixUK and Astrohero breaking down this matchup, the matchup is kinda favored to DE's side. The early game is just too mutch. ofc it changes tier 2 and beyond, but I think this is not supose to be fun for Chaos. Was a sick game to watch tho!
Absolutely not. Considered amongst the most broken matchups in the game, heavily Chaos favoured. DE only gets the advantage back in T4 - the struggle is to get there
I will correct myself a bit after looking into those old videos so thank you for that, but would you not say the early advantage goes to DE (Helions and jetbikes and early harass)? I would believe the matchup works a little bit like SM who struggle vs DE in the early game, and chaos is more vulnerable against early harass due to low hp units right? Is the early advantage not enough and tier 2 from chaos too strong or? Thanks in advance@@thekezDoWSSUK
@@DuzzyministerWhilst DE’s army could probably beat Chaos in a straight fight, that’s not how the matchup is played. All DE players will do exactly what Qbebab does in this game - wait in base behind imba turrets/LP2s, which do excellent vehicle_low damage. DE has a very limited (~3 min) window to harass cultists and heretics, after that it’s not really possible. Then you wait for the inevitable Defiler spam which will counter all your T2 and T3 army. If Chaos go nadecult, it’s even worse. The grenades will disrupt and stun the bikes. Not to mention the AoE, damaging multiple bikes when stacked. On Emerald River, sure, DE probably has an advantage over Chaos similar to the SM matchup. On these standard maps where the points are closer together, and easier to cap/defend; heavily Chaos favoured
Thanks for answering Kez, it makes us all smarter. I am not sure where the line goes for standard and none-standard maps, but would you not say this applies to many maps and not just Emerald river? Here I am thinking Titans fall, Outer Reaches, Battle Marshes, Tranquilitys end, Maybe even Quest Triumphs, Fallen City all maps that has terrain (sometimes heavy terrain) and has split out points@@thekezDoWSSUK
Whats wrong with these guys playing defilers on range? Do they know they can go melee with them and deal insane vehicle and building dmg? Infantry too ofc but not enough cc
I feel like you overcorrected that correction. Accuracy reduced to 20% means reduced by 80%, so not really that different from the 90 you mistakenly said. The demoralized squad is not combat effective either way, so your original point stands.
Omg, I must've been so tired from staring at the screen I interpreted that as "reduced BY 20%", so yeah looks like Editor Jagus needs to issue an apology.
love seeing some of the lesser played factions
I also really appreciate the casting of DE, very few games out there for them. Underrated race
Not only was the casting good, but so was the editing too! Well done
Thank you!! 🤩
Ive seen lots of your casts and i think this is the best game out there in your channel. Loved it!
I've learnt a lot by watching you and mr.landsharks cast, thanks.
Starting to learn how to play chaos atm. The early defense is so good. And the fight with bloodthirster is just chaos. :D
Really glad to hear it!
Great breakdown and coverage! Definitely like the use of the wiki bits
I remember the pre patch (the one and only offical patch ever for SS) Dais of Destruction. The Dark Scythe ability squad wiped any full hp infantry unit in its radius. Fun times for DE players.
Chaos probs just needed to walk across the map and engage after elder was pushed back.
Dark Eldar! Lesgoo 🤩
A lot of the time I’m pressuring on the relic, and making ‘questionable’ trades, the goal is to keep denying his relic and to keep that gen unbuilt.
That gen was unbuilt for like 5 mins, and he didn’t have an LP built on the relic for like 9 mins. At 8:25 I knew there were too many marines there, I go in just for the heretic snipe.
Definitely some micro mistakes from me, but I think it’s a pretty good example of one of the few semi-reliable ways to win this matchup. Especially considering the distraction of Vietnamese/Spanish/Swedish autists in vc 😂
I wish I had known you had to listen to them in vc. That's like training with one of those weighted vests on
Do you think Scourges did anything useful? They are so squishy and expensive while Wytches with their squad leader and drugs dish out good ranged damage to all units while on the move.
From what I can gather from watching AlixUK and Astrohero breaking down this matchup, the matchup is kinda favored to DE's side. The early game is just too mutch. ofc it changes tier 2 and beyond, but I think this is not supose to be fun for Chaos. Was a sick game to watch tho!
Absolutely not. Considered amongst the most broken matchups in the game, heavily Chaos favoured.
DE only gets the advantage back in T4 - the struggle is to get there
I will correct myself a bit after looking into those old videos so thank you for that, but would you not say the early advantage goes to DE (Helions and jetbikes and early harass)? I would believe the matchup works a little bit like SM who struggle vs DE in the early game, and chaos is more vulnerable against early harass due to low hp units right? Is the early advantage not enough and tier 2 from chaos too strong or?
Thanks in advance@@thekezDoWSSUK
@@DuzzyministerWhilst DE’s army could probably beat Chaos in a straight fight, that’s not how the matchup is played.
All DE players will do exactly what Qbebab does in this game - wait in base behind imba turrets/LP2s, which do excellent vehicle_low damage.
DE has a very limited (~3 min) window to harass cultists and heretics, after that it’s not really possible. Then you wait for the inevitable Defiler spam which will counter all your T2 and T3 army.
If Chaos go nadecult, it’s even worse. The grenades will disrupt and stun the bikes. Not to mention the AoE, damaging multiple bikes when stacked.
On Emerald River, sure, DE probably has an advantage over Chaos similar to the SM matchup. On these standard maps where the points are closer together, and easier to cap/defend; heavily Chaos favoured
Thanks for answering Kez, it makes us all smarter.
I am not sure where the line goes for standard and none-standard maps, but would you not say this applies to many maps and not just Emerald river? Here I am thinking Titans fall, Outer Reaches, Battle Marshes, Tranquilitys end, Maybe even Quest Triumphs, Fallen City all maps that has terrain (sometimes heavy terrain) and has split out points@@thekezDoWSSUK
Qbebab needs to stream more
During the holidays he streamed pretty much every day.
So, if you had to vote to live under one of them, would you go with Chaos or Dark Eldar?
From the some of the stuff I've read about what DE do to their victims, I'mma have to say Chaos 😂
I love your casting and the energy you bring, shame you only cast vanilla, love to see you cast unification,i don't know why you don't
The main reason is that I feel I don't play Uni often enough to understand it as much yet but hopefully I can get there one day
@@jagusart dude i saw the video where you played dark angels, and i know a good player when i see one, switch to unification you'll fit like a glove.
@@sigma4693 Aw cheers appreciate it 🙌
Whats wrong with these guys playing defilers on range? Do they know they can go melee with them and deal insane vehicle and building dmg? Infantry too ofc but not enough cc
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