Solve Catching Issues with a Problem Horse - Parelli Inside Access DVD
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- čas přidán 13. 02. 2014
- Pat Parelli shares tips on solving problems with horses that are difficult to catch in this problem horse segment from our December Parelli Inside Access Savvy Club DVD.
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I ride my instructor's horse and he loves to hang out on the opposite side of the pasture, all I have to do is grab his attention/curiosity and he comes to me. I'd walk towards him but once his ear or head looks my way I'd pause and once he looks away I'd walk towards him again until he looks towards me again, and repeat. After a few minutes he comes to me.
Got the idea from Warwickschiller's videos on how to grab the attention of horses with separation anxiety.
It's so wonderful that moment when the horse changes its mind about what to do. There's a real purity of spirit in this. I hope Pat still feels the wonder of it every time it happens. I find that I run away from a lot in life. Life still hasn't quite found the technique for me so that I can choose to stop running...
Are you running from everything or are you just searching for something better? One is good, one is bad.
@@misery8264 Searching is just another type of running. First be still, acknowledge exactly what and where you are. Always accept reality - do not be deluded. Only then do you become free to change into what you wish to be.
Saw you on Cesar's Show!! Your work is amazing!! I love horses but have been scared of approaching them bc i just dont know how to approach and pet. Ty for the videos!!!
So how would I put this into practice in a large pasture with multiple other horses running with the horse I’m trying to catch 😂
Senna Lucille I recommend getting on another horse to do the leg work for you! Lol
My question exactly
More difficult but doable. When you go into pasture you become a horse. The horses in pasture must realize that once you set foot in pasture, you are the trusted leader. Use the drive line and single out the horse you want.
My instructor's horse loves to be at the other end too, how I catch him is by attracting his attention. I walk towards him and when he flicks an ear to me or looks at me I pause but when he looks away I move towards him again and then repeat, after a while his curiosity gets the better of him and he comes to me.
Got the idea from Warwickschiller's videos on getting the attention of his horses that have separation anxiety.
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THIS IS A POWERFULL SYSTEM/ IT CAN DRIVE OTHER PEOPLE CRAZY/ U WILL BE CALLED A HORSE WISPERA/ A TME MAY COME WHEN U NO LONGER ABLE TO BE A PART OF THIER LIFE / THE BEAUTIFULL HORSE WILL BE HEART BROKEN !
This is a Monty Roberts technice! Love it!
Nice. Monty Roberts theach many people.love it
Would this technique work in a pasture?
Eventually yes, but that's not where you'd want to start.
Freaking handy
Horse agrees at the end of video
She is in the way
Years ago..1990’s..in Corvallis MT.. a Pony Club ( organization)..was insisting..that the kids.. Clean to horses HOOFS FIRST…I a horsewoman from the 1960’s…said ( for my kid) we like to attend to the feet. After some time grooming..15 minutes or so.. they wouldn’t have it..their way.. well we didn’t JOIN…besides they frowned on bareback riding..no thanks we have fun and skill on our horses.. maybe they have changed..I think Not.
Interesting comment you made. You don't believe horses eyes can accommodate? But rather there are three fixed lenses in their eyes?
My horse really bad behavior his food
She's just better staying out of the way and let him do his thing and then go ahead and get in after.
If he acts like a partner we act as a partner. If he acts as a prey animal we act as a predator.
The catching is not a horse problem. It is a people problem.
Great lesson. Ive been using this method when developing my horses for years, (after I learned it from Pat and Linda!) Never had it to fail. Some modifications are needed for different horseanalities, but its effective is something horses in a herd environment do with each other.
Love watching Pat and Linda, I can't say enough how much the Parelli program has been a huge part of my wonderful relationship I have with my horses, one of which is a Snowy Mountain Brumby filly now a 5 year old mare and my newest one is a fearful 6 year old that I rescued that I will take through the program with my brumby and myself together. So many awful people out there calling themselves Natural Horsemanship which is so not, stick with Parelli and those likewise and you will never go wrong. So much support for me in Australia from the Parelli community and online answers to just about any situation. My brumby always meets me at the gate. Working with the newest member so she too will want to meet me at the gate.
♥ that totally impresses, it's so wonderful ♥
My mom used to have a welsh pony mare. She was abused for most of her life before we got her (I believe maybe 5 years) and couldn't be caught or ridden, as she would bolt away from you even under saddle. My mom used to to do this to be able to catch her, and I always found it strange, like she was scaring the horse into not wanting to be near. Pushing away, instead of encouraging to come closer. But looking at it now, as someone who is no longer a 7 year old, I understand the logic of doing this. I've ended up using this method many times on many horses, and I gotta tell you, its damn near foolproof.
The rejection makes them want acceptance..same with ppl
So good !
Pat speaks horse language loud and clear =]
amazing!
He speaks fluent horse!
Ok but what if it's a group of ponies in the one field and they are like getting contact from each other not just you? Like you walk away they have their mate to go to. Plus they are not that hard to catch really they don't run off it's just they doge you a bit but will let you if you are fast and then it's fine. What do you do then?
Melania MoneyPenny i believe you have to seperate that one and get him into the roundpen and teach him like this video. He/she still thing they are the leader...
When i was catching ponies half the issue was not dominance it was that they thought it was a game to catch them almost.
Can someone tell me why they back up when the horse faces them? Is it to invite the horse in?
Atomsk yes. When the horse gives them something they give something back, which is to lay off sending it round the pen.
Pressure/ release the moment the horse gave them what they were asking the backing off is release of pressure. Ignore me you get pressure look at me pressure is released. Horse doesnt like pressure so eventually horse understands " hey when I pay attention to them they dont push me. I like that" and will pay attention more.
You make it uncomfortable to do the wrong thing which is run away, when he starts doing the right thing like stop and look at you, you make it easy on them so soon he will think oh its no fun to run away he won't leave me alone but if i calm down and walk to him he doesn't do that thing i don't like.
@@georgeprime2249 When the horse faces you respectfully after directed movement in the round pen, that is the right answer. That is to be rewarded by releasing pressure. Turn sideways, do not look directly at the horse, become passive, withdraw and invite the horse in to you.
What they want is for the horse to come to them, and facing them is the first step, so when he does what they want they take the pressure off, giving him a release.
Fine in a small paddock. But how do you catch the xxxxer from the big field to put him into the small field to do the join up thingy?
If you are calling your horse names like that, then you probably shouldn't have them.
My xxxxer stands for lots of things when you can't catch a horse in a 30-acre field. My lover, maybe. My point is, this demo is fine for a small paddock. I'd like to see them do it in a far bigger area to be convinced.
You would have to start small, gain trust, then go big.
Shizam i've done it. it is NOT easy. especially undoing a lot of crap baggage someone else put on them. our current pony was a backyard pet until he ate all the grass and started tearing up stuff. then he was sold. but before that the only time anyone touched him was to have his feet done and given shots or when their little daughter wanted to pet him. he LOVES kids. HATES adults...and dogs (because their dog always chased and bit at him) So now that he is with us... oh boy what a mess. he's not even two years old yet. the only way i can catch him is to use my horse as bait.... or lure him with food. he can be lured into a smaller pen. then you just close the gate. but out in the field? forget it. you wont touch him. in fact we named him Chase.
It is slow progress but he is actually a lot better than when he first got here(back in march). We're doing some of the games with him. you can catch him in the smaller round pen. but he isnt dumb. he knows he can outrun you in the field. BUT the good news is while he still hates adults (me) he still LOVES kids... and he is my son's pony and he has a strong bond with him. which is just fine. I can coach from the sidelines. but i cant actually touch him unless i have bait (my horse or some food)
By working the horse in the round small pen and making him think that coming to you means comfort and that you are the higher horse. Horses are heard animals to so they LOVE to always stay next to the high horse. If a horse thinks you are above them they will ALWAYS come to you. You have to start small in the round pen like I did. I did this in a round pen and now all I got to do is walk to the gate by the field and my horse will raise his head and walk to me and I stop and make him come to me.
How do you get a horse who in a small area by himself is perfectly fine but in the paddock of about 45 acres with 6 other horses is a little harder to catch? Is that a herd bound issue or still just a catching issue? My gelding is really behaved once he is alone or in a small area but in the bigger area he tends to be a bit harder to catch. 5-10 minutes to catch. He has only started this since being put with a large herd.
+Team Beautiful Shadow
my opinion for whatever it's worth.
its a bit of both. he's happy with his friends and being with you means work. 45 acres gives him lots of room to evade.
try this 100 foot rope on the halter let him go with his buddies.
every 15 minutes walk over pick up the rope and pull him to you. he'll get in his head when you come into the field he has to come to you. we've used it on several horses and have had good luck with it so far.
Thank you
Wont the 100 ft rope pose issues for the horses like tangling or tripping?
Biggest idiot of trainer.
@@theredflannelchannel7820 Why is that?
Haha, he got so scared he farted!
Lol
Lol...i did not hear it
Love, language, leadership, and a long rope = the four Ls. You never did halter the horse.
He wants you to pay him to finish showing you how to do it. This was only an appetizer.
That's great n all when you got him in the pen. Show me this when hes in the 5 acres
This video is addressing how to catch a horse, you don't just go out and start teaching in a 5 acre field. It is possible however, that when you learn what your horse needs, and become partners through the Parelli Program, to absolutely have your horse catch you in much bigger areas.
@@ParelliTube What if your horse is in a big area and you can't catch him to put him in smaller area?
There is heaps of ways to get a horse into a smaller yard. Put feed in there, put other horses in with it that you can catch, ride another horse into the paddock with it. The horse will normally run up to it. Chase it into the yard. If you can't figure out a way to get the horse in you probably shouldn't have horses.
It's basically a join up and not really a "game" to solve the problem coz when your out in ten acres and try n catch him you ain't gonna be able to join up with him if he had that much space to move
maybe not, but after a few sessions in the arena, you wont need to have to do join up in the field, because the horse will want to be caught. It does become a game, because the horse finds it fun to get the right answer. When the pressure is off, and he likes to please you and do the right thing. Its always a guessing game, and horses, aswell as their owners, like to get correct answers, which is why it becomes fun for the horse, aswell as the human
Actually I do "join up" in the field a lot. horses don't want to be sent away from the other horses
What you don't understand is this is teaching the horse that you are the high horse and that he will find comfort next to you which means no matter the size of the field. IF you do this small round pen work he will always come to you.
Not necessarily. Depends on whether one has established their fair leadership and acts like a herd leader.
It needs love, language and leadership?
Right! But he forgot the MOST important thing: respect.
I have some. I treat animals the same like any people I admire.
Looked to me like he gave the horse respect...
John Campbell oh yes he treats horses with respect. He just forgot to mention it.
I'm not proud of it but I do catch a couple of my horses with food. It's just faster when I'm getting ready for a show or the farrier/vet is early and I haven't caught them yet. I just don't wanna chase them most days. My seniors don't need to be caught with food as they like the attention
424kilebar , If practice before hand...Be easy to caught all the time without food.
I have friends that are real cowboys and they can walk up and catch their horses in a 500 acre pasture. They don't carry feed buckets with them or any other treats.
Anyone can do that if they are bonded with their horses
i never use treats or feed...bonding is the only way
Are u calling pat pareli not a real cowboy if so screw u
Of course, because they know horses and their 'language'.
@@angelmatagi7776 Anyone can do that when they know how to move the horse's feet.
He's got a "catching" problem because he has an attitude problem. He is clearly a disrespectful horse who's been allowed to get away with far too much. Fix his respect issue, and the catching issue will follow suit. He's not afraid, he's disrespectful.
He becomes very afraid later in the video. He did start out with a lack of respect though.
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Gianna Jennings .
The horse doesn't have an attitude problem. It is a person problem. The horse is a reflection of the person that handles him the most.
@@gerrycoleman7290 So horses have no identity or personality apart from a human?
I've no advice. When I want my horse, I call his name and he comes to me. When I call the bull-headed Appaloosa, he comes to me. Maybe the Appaloosa learned it from the Arabian. I just know that they come when I call them but I don't know if I taught them that or, if I did, how I taught them.
Don't try and catch the horse. Let the horse come to you.
Lmaoooo!!!!!
Pretty much
Never sneak around a horse.
This is ridiculous! Are you going to chase your horse through a 30 acre field? Why would you want to put your horse through this much fear, stress and trauma? Just get a bucket of feed and reward your horse for coming to you with a few bites of feed.
This is not ridiculous. This is treating the horse the way it should be treated. In the wild, the mothers of naughty foals will chase them away before letting them come back to join the herd. This letting the horse be a horse. Anyway, after a few "join up " sessions in an arena, you won't need to chase him around the field. He will naturally follow you, like a foal to it's mother.
Catherine H do you carry a bucket of feed with you everywhere? have you ever had to get off your horse and accidentally dropped the reins? ever fallen off on the trail away from home?
In a perfect world everyone would be so lucky as to raise their horse from a foal and bond with it so that it trusts you 100%. sadly a lot of horses have too much baggage from previous lives. which is probably why Parelli(and all the other horse trainers) has so many customers. This is just telling you one way to fix it.
My horse (mustang x) has been with me for almost nine years, since she was a baby. I dont have to run her down and she comes when i whistle. our other is a pony that is not yet two. we got him in march and he has soooooo much baggage from careless owners. he doesnt like adults, dogs, loud noises, fast movements, ropes(because in order to catch him they always left the rope tied to him and they'd chase him and drag him down like a steer) basically he doesnt like anything or anyone. we have a lot of issues to solve and trust to build. it is slow but he is better than he used to be. He likes treats and his feed, but it isnt always logical or convenient to carry around a bucket 24/7.
I have a mare that her whole life until I got her has been sneak up with a lead behind your back and a bucket of grain. So all she has ever learned is food = some one trying to catch me. Food is not always the answer. Is there better methods out there? Perhaps, but if a person thinks that they know all there is to know about horses and horse issues, then they are a closed door.
Catherine H that doesn't always work.
Catherine H absolutely the wrong way to go about it. Don't use bribery to catch a horse. You will end up with a horse that will never get caught unless there is food involved. It's just plain laziness. My first horse initially took 45 mins to catch. I followed him for miles, but never trying to go to his head. ' Followed ' being the operative word. Always behind him. If he turned his head towards me, I turned to make sure I was still directly behind him. Eventually he stopped. Every time I went to catch him, I would do the same and the time it took got less and less until I could just walk up to him and catch him straight off. Top priority to do it this way, once you start following you must never stop until you get the horse. So allow yourself plenty of time. The horse has to know you won't quit, or cheat with offering food.
What a joke, this is basic round pen training not real life training. Let me see you train a uncatchable horse then catch him on 75 acres. Horses are heard animals, and people want to make them pets. If he rides good and is honest let him be free. Every time you feed him don't ride him, and he will come to grain.
Hi Mike, This is no Joke. Pat has caught many an un-catchable horse and has done hundreds of Colt Starts. This segment was geared more towards helping this student learn how to read her horse and how to teach the horse to catch her. He wouldn't be setting this student up for success if we put her horse out on 75 acres. Plus if you start in a smaller area and solve the problem there, you wouldn't have this problem in a larger area.
You are of course only watching a snippet of the entire lesson and hope you can see the value of this particular lesson for this particular horse owner. Naturally, Parelli
You do not want to train the horse through their stomach. You want to work with their mind then transfers to their feet.
And, a horse can be drawn in to you in a small enclosure like a round pen. But also can be done in a lage open pasture. If you know how to 'talk' the horse's language, it is easy.
Wow, you have a lot to learn about horses.
@@hb_breyers In some respects, yes. In others, no. i.e.: imprinting.
@@gerrycoleman7290 You have a lot to learn about people.