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This Is The Best Knuckleball In Recorded History
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Wait a second did you just seriously admit you just took pitching ninjas video posted as your own talked over it? I don't know about that man It's kind of grimey...
I can do that too! Been throwing knuckle ball my whole life! Didn’t go to college so my prospects were extremely limited seeing as I live in ice hockey climates….
no
Best in recorded history? Well that's complete bullshit. What gives you the right to make such a ludicrous statement?
No. Your video stinks. Your opinion reeks.
This has more revolutions in one pitch, than Wakefield had in his entire career.
Yeah… Wakefield thru a “on pause “ ball against the braves back in 92… I don’t know about this one being the best
Wakefield had the dirtiest pitches I’ve ever seen
RIP Tim. Perhaps, taken by the age of the altered path... what a world.
F*#king great comment!
Yeah 41 rotations lol this kid doesn't know what he's talking about lol
Lol, umpire was like “hmm, he framed that ball so hard that even he thought it was a ball”
If you look closely; the ball was caught out of frame but the broadcast called it a strike
@@plebianmarsh2373 the strike zone is not where the ball is caught
It was also Angel Hernandez behind the plate. If it were 2 feet outside he would’ve called it a strike.
@@kylen6430 that's what i'm saying
@@plebianmarsh2373 it was a strike because of where the ball crossed through the strike zone, not where it was caught.
However, the catcher ‘framed’ the pitch really hard, moving his glove to the center of the zone to give the impression it was a strike. Which was unnecessary as the pitch was already a strike
Him: “ 55 mile per hour masterpiece “
Radar Gun: It showed 58 miles per hour, but whose counting.
you are
Just like the rotation of the ball, he was incorrect
Phil Niekro is spinning in his grave even faster than that pitch.
Phil niekro is the most underrated athlete of all time.the number of Games he lost 1 to 0 where multiple fielding errors caused the run that lost him the game put him way over 350 wins. The teams behind him were awful in the field. Had he played for a .500 team he would've had 375 wins minimum.
@@brandonluther80 agreed.
‘It didn’t do a full rotation the entire time to home plate.’
*literally rotates like 10 times*
If you watch it's wobbling not spinning lol I was a catcher and almost went pro so that ball did not spin it's wobbling from side to side.
@@mikek7029 im not going to argue with you about it I know what the hell happened in my life I don't need you teeling me something you don't have a clue about me you don't even know me wtf would I need to lie for what do i gain? Lol jealous much or something because you didn't have any offers from any were to play ball because you probably wasn't good enough. Im 41 and have nothing to gain by leaving a bullshit comment dude. So think what you want but most that know me can tell you this.
@@edrominger6165 what you are describing is impossible due to physics. Or do the laws of physics not apply to baseball games ? 🤦🏼♂️😂
@@markus7166 Do you even know what a true knuckle ball looks like or how it is even trowed? I know as a catcher in baseball from the time I was a little kid to know it hasn't changed the way it done so once you go and research it then comment back. Lol the pitcher more like pushes the ball instead of throwing it with his fingers not even holding it there tucked in so when it's done proper there is no spin at all just the wobbling around effect and some don't even do that.
@@markus7166 the laws of physics apply pretty good for that pitch that's why it drops like it does.
“Best knuckle ball ever” LOL
*Rotates about 6 times*
Dude this channel is just clickbait shorts. This isn’t the only complete BS video. We need the dislike button back.
It's there, you just can't see the numbers
Not. Less than 4
@@geoffreynutt845 you must be an old man
No. Hoyt. Charlie
I thought I had to go see an eye doc... then I read the comments. Thanks, you guys saved me a few hundo
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My Dad taught me to throw a knuckleball when I was 6 or 7. When I waa 12, I threw a knuckleball to an opponent for a called strike. The kid stared at me, then ran up to his 3rd base coach, where I heard him say to the coach, 'that ball stopped in mid-air'. The knuckleball, when thrown correctly, is a great pitch!
Pops used to say "a good knuckler stops and asks for directions" 😂
They actually did the numbers for a knuckleball! Speed of pitch, rotation, temperature, barometric pressure, and wind speed and direction of said wind. That's why some days it moves more than others!
I don't remember how old I was, but I learned the knuckleball when I was a kid as well. I threw one that a kid just looked at for a called third strike and the umpire started laughing. I'm sure I was the first kid he ever saw that could throw a really good knuckler.
We’re all literally watching the ball rotate to the plate…
Exactly. This must be a stat they just started gathering bc knuckles aren't supposed to rotate. Forget 41rpm, a perfect one is 0rpm. But maybe the measurement wasn't available when Wakefield was on the mound at Fenway.
41rpm for two seconds is 1.366 rotations that’s assuming that the pitch took two seconds to reach home plate
Seems like it’s wobbling not spinning
@@chilboswaggins5500 I'm glad you told those Joe Biden loving gun banning clowns off.
@@chilboswaggins5500 I don’t think it’s possible to throw a 0rpm ball, but I could be wrong.
He called it a ball because he noticed how extreme the catcher tried to frame it
And it was a ball not a strike
It was definitely a ball. The plate has depth, it isn’t 2D like the pitch tracker makes it look.
Whether or not it was a strike...you are spot on with the framing. When did catchers learn to "frame" by pulling a borderline pitch into the middle of the zone? That is not how you frame!!!
@@carterbig3633 it was caught way low lol
Yeah bringing the glove up 2ft really effed them there lol
I guess they forgot about Phil Niekro😳🤨
Tim Wakefield was the best Knuckle ball pitcher. When he was dialed in, no one would hit.
that ball spun more times than a stripper on a pole
Video of said stripper or it didn't happen...
"That comment is sexist and WAYCIST!"--Hillary Clinton
I bet Hillary has knuckled some balls while spinning around a pole...yikes!
@@Scott-nr2ji lol true
Love the analogy
You can see the ball spinning though
when you're throwing a ball as fast as a moving car, of course it's gonna have some spin. it's a knuckleball because it spins so little, as opposed to pitches that spin 3000+ rpm
well yes, anywhere from 2300-2500 is league average, it never hurts to throw out an extreme for comparison though 🤷
@@cIawguy knuckle balls do not spin.
@@jacoboneil9406 They do, just very slowly
It says it was measured at 41rpms right on the screen. That means that if the baseball was in the air for 2 whole seconds (which it likely wasn't), it would have spun 1.36 times while in the air
The Best knuckleballer I ever saw was Phil Niekro. It was his bread and butter pitch.👍👍👍 Joe Niekro used it also. They played in the 70's and 80's.👍👍👍
The Brothers Niekro were some of my favorite people in baseball.
Both great pitchers.
*Phil Niekro enters chat*
Phil Negro was betta ❤
The ump is shocked from that frame job lmao
That's what I was saying. He should have just left it
the frame jobs are truly intelligence insulting
I was thinking that's why he didn't get the call :)
Exactly. It’s a ball.
Bro tried to pull that ball up onto the zone by 3 feet 😂
Let's be honest, it's not that hard to "stun" Angel Hernandez......sick pitch though!
Not saying it was angel Hernandez hes saying it stunned the ump and he pulled an angel Hernandez
It was joe wes
@@Lu3kky Sajme difference.
@@phishbill not at all
@@Lu3kky It’s actually Hunter Wendelstedt.
Wakefield & Hough would like a word, sir... ☝
*phone rings*
If you pick that call up, I bet it's either Phil or Joe.
@@JamusChristus That's who I was thinking of
@@bluesky6985 you wanna talk the slowest, corkscrewingest, impossible to trackingest, most non-spinning, too busy thinking about how to time your swing and the time you do it's a strikingest pitch that I've ever seen, it's those guys.
I got 321 Contact magazine when I was a shorty (I'm a nerd and proud of it). It was a science magazine and they did a small article about the science of those guys pitches. That was the '80s. I'm still astonished.
It's always a treat to watch a good knuckle-baller work . Watching how the great ones work with men-on is another element of their gamesmanship . I'm biased , but Tim Wakefield was a great talent. He'd start, long relief , come out for a batter or close. A guy with a knuckler that happens to be a team player is a great weapon to have on any roster.
This isn't a good knuckle ball though lol. Ball, didn't draw a swing, rotated several times
@willgriffin707 . Yeah? He's gonna have to figure out a better outcome than a strike
Tim wakefield has thrown nastier lol
This is very far from the best one in history
@Trigger Warning RA Dickey was the best, he literally took Phil's and mastered. Throwing it at different speeds. They only problem is sometimes it does nothing and turns into a meatball.
wish we had statcast when he was pitching man
And Charlie Hough
@Trigger Warning RA Dickey, who switched to the knuckleball mid-career, was the only knuckleballer to ever win a CY Young award, so while he may not have collected the longevity stats of Niekro (who pitched until he was 48), Dickey had the most dominant season of any knuckleballer in history-I think that suggests he may have “mastered” the pitch.
Niekro is the best knuckleball pitcher of all time, but that doesn’t mean we have to disparage Dickey’s own incredible achievements as a player.
That ball is spinning like crazy
It didn’t spin at all
@@BoldyJamesLover you can literally see it spin lol maybe not spinning like crazy but you can definitely see it spin
You can see the ball spinning. This is dumb
If you compare it to other pitches, this is crazy
@@burghurs976 you obviously don’t play in the MLB.
I’ve had a baseball team mate who threw a mean knuckle ball. It’s such a weird experience. The ball literally looks like it’s wiggling through the air
It basically is wiggling through air lol
The priblem with statcast history is that it starts just a decade ago, when most knucklers were done playing.
Fk the stats. You can clearly see it make more than one rotation otw to the plate
I’ve literally throw knuckleballs in high school that legit didn’t rotate all the way. This one is clearly rotating a lot.
Lol I threw knuckleballs in high school as well. Not that hard to throw one that doesn’t rotate. That’s kind of the point!
This video: “Did not complete a single rotation”
Also this video: completed 41 rotations
No, he's claiming that its rotational speed is 41 revolutions per minute, but seeing as it only traveled for about a second, it did not have time to complete a full revolution.
However, the evidence of our eyes tell us different.
@@eternalextrapolations 💯💯
He's so lucky Angel Hernandez didn't call a ball. You can easily stun that mutant
When the catcher has to move his glove 1 foot up from where the the ball was
It was in the strike zone
It's called framing and every catcher does it, few do it well. This was very blatant, I agree, but it's not against the rules so what are ya gonna do?
It crossed home plate in the strike zone he caught the ball low
They do this almost every time.
Tell me you don't watch baseball without telling me you don't watch baseball
Having personally spoken with MLB statcast engineers about the accuracy of these measurements, I can tell you that the reason this seems wrong is because it is.
Which particular measurement?
The 10 inches.
Such a shame you never see knuckle balls anymore. Made baseball way more fun to watch.
"Pulled an Angel Hernandez" 😂...GOLD!!!!
This is maybe the worst knuckleball I've seen. It literally just arcs in the same straight line. A good knuckleball is wobbling all over the place.
Bro it’s a position player throwing a knuckle ball it’s not going to be good.
@@Baseball4ever the title says it’s the best knuckle ball in history. Eric simply expressed his opinion that this is a bad knuckle ball. Calm yourself.
For real I can throw a better knuckleball than that
@@snorlax9409 You’re more mad than noah, take your own advice lol.
This is not true. I throw a knuckleball weekly in baseball games and been instructed by a student of C.H, T.W, R.A.D., T.C
Phil Neikro threw those on a regular basis.
This narration starts every time I scratch my knuckleballs......
Tim Wakefield and R.A Dickey looking at each other like 🤨 "That's the best recorded knuckler?"
There’s no movement. I’ve seen Tim Wakefield throw a few that ended a couple feet from where it started. This looked like a meatball.
There is a Documentary named Knuckleball, it's about Wakefield and Dickey. The Red Sox had Wakefield and Met had Dickey meet with Neikro and Hough. Phil told Dickey to throw the knuckle at different speeds after that Dickey contributed Phil's advice to his improvement.
I sat the seat behind Wakefield at the premier. Autographed my jersey. Charlie Hough was the next seat over. RIP wake
Angel Hernandez calls every game is a stunned frame of mind.
I must have watched this 15X back to back just giggling like a kid.
Obviously you never saw Phil Niekro pitch. This is not the greatest knuckle ball of all time. By a position player ...maybe.
Right Niekro is the reason I learned to throw a Knuckleball. I saw his mastery of this pitch and was immediately impressed. It helped deceive hitters being that my sinker capped somewhere between 84- 86.
You right. Niekros ball floated up to the plate like a feather being blown in the wind. The catchers had to wear a large special glove to try to catch it.
Tim Wakefield as well...
Don’t forget Tom Candiotti
@Trigger Warning in the video he literally says “in the stat cast era” lmao stop getting triggered over nothing
We didn’t have these sort of methods of recording pitches for niekro and Wakefield, obviously they throw a better knuckleball but we can’t put any numbers to their pitches, even though this number seems suspect on the surface, my guess is it’s measuring spin in a certain direction
My pitcher in the show throws a knuckle with zero rpm lol. One of the great things to watch in sports, whether its a free kick in soccer or a pitcher.
with a 102 mph fastball? sidearm? at 6'10''? gotta love the show man
Umpire was confused so he called it a ball to not angry anyone.
Strike all day long. Umpire didn’t comprehend what he just saw. A UFO sighting.
Read the writing on the ball, lol. I remember NY Met farm “phenom” Greg Jeffries, who said his father used to write numbers on the ball that he would call out when his father threw batting practice. He was a good ball player, but failed to reach the level of play expected of him. They brought him up young, maybe a little too early and gauge him a lot of praise and attention, which is hard for a young kid to live up to.
Neikro is having a good laugh.
So is Wakefield.
And Steven Wright
Ump: "Of course I wasn't watching the strike-zone! Who do you think I am?!"
So I did the math on this. A 58 mph pitch should take approximately .71 seconds to reach home plate/the catcher's mit. If rotating at 41 rpm, we should see about .485 rotations. We can clearly see that's not the case here.
Angel Hernandez could be "stunned" just by watching paint dry
Stunned by seeing the moon outside during day time too
Worse umpire in history.
When the position player pitches better than the starting pitcher
Yeah, no not at all...
@@jacklong2671 xd position players throwing what like 80mph xd
@@twisterpower521 lmao yeah exactly if that some times ! There’s a reason they’re position players and not on the mound. Look at Pujols’ and Molina’s ERA lol. It was cool seeing them two pitch an inning each this year though!
Stunned the baseball world. 😂😂😂
Jim Abbott was a one handed starter in the majors who also threw a no hitter in '93. Now THAT was a stunner. 🧐
Funny, that's exactly what the hitter did. He read the writing the entire time it approached the plate.
Great pitch !!
Who remembers Charlie Hough?
Or Wilbur Wood?
Texas Rangers ...threw the best knuckle
I don't know. Charlie Hough's was pretty damn good.
He's defining "greatest" as a measurement of RPM. And the measurement isn't even correct, because you can clearly see that the ball rotates faster than 41rpm.
Texas Rangers...great knuckleball
Hoyt Wilhelm taught Charlie Hough .
The umpire called it a ball, it rotated at least twice...
Someone forgot about Wilbur Wood. Now that cat could toss a Knuckle
Phil and Joe nicro they were effective with that pitch it's amazing that nobody else uses it anymore
As I can literally see the ball spinning?! 🤦
Well duh it spins a little
You can literally watch it spin mutliple times around in the video. This isn't impressive at all.. it's a slow pitch big whoop
@@TheLaw-mh4pb that's where I was at, how do we even know it's a knuckle ball in the first place not to mention I'm pretty confident a knuckle ball doesn't travel like that. Right?
@@maticola3842 a knuckle ball shouldn't spin at all that's the whole reason for what it is.
@@tylerhensley2312 you know nothing about baseball right? Because watch ra Dickey cy young knuckleballer his ball spun the point is the grip and to get the ball to move randomly not that it can’t spin
Shades of Phil neuro. Mr. Knuckle ball pitcher. Atlanta braves.
This is one of those videos where the creator repeats something he heard a drunk guy say at the local bar.
And shout out to the catcher. When I was an adolescent, I remember warming up a friend who became a pretty good power pitcher. He had just learned to throw a knuckleball, however, and was experimenting with it.
I just turned 69, and the bruises on my shins have begun to heal.
He got that pitch straight from aliens!!! Too smooth
Love how the catcher tries to pull it into the strike zone 😂
Props to the Catcher for snagging the pitch at the shins and raising his glove into the strike zone, supporting his pitcher when he missed the target and attempting to trick the Ump into calling a strike; also, good on the batter for following the ball all the way home and not even check swinging on it. Haven't looked for the entire sequence but, looks like Ump didn't take the bait and certainly noticed the pitch crossing the plate a foot low and called the ball.
Knuckle balls are so weird, I threw one Little League and there were 2 other guys that threw them as well. Fuggers wiggle in the air lol
I can literally see it rotating bro
Catchers that frame like that crack me up.
That’s why it wasn’t called a strike. Also knuckleballs don’t actually have any movement they just look weird to your eye
@@terdfergeson23 not at all what I'm talking about. The dude moves his glove like a foot to try and frame the pitch. Puts it in the center of the strike zone when the pitch so obviously wasn't. That's how they frame pitches in little league lol.
Lindy McDaniel,Hoyt Wilhelm, Tom Candiotti, Wakefield, Hough, Wood
Dickey, Dan Quisenberry
Love knuckleballers. RIP Tim Wakefield.
I can see several rotations and I’m viewing on my phone
Unfortunately this isn’t the real footage, this is actually a reversed version of the original
So the catcher shot the ball to the pitcher with his glove? 😆
The ball appears to be spinning because of the changing shadows on it as it moves toward the plate.
A shape of an object always determines the shape of its shadow. However, the size and shape of the shadow can change. These changes are caused by the position of the light source.. In this case, the light source is stationary, i.e. the field lights both behind and above the ball. The ball moves through the light cast from the different sources and gives the illusion of spinning.
Shout out to the true fans of “the art of pitching” this was a display of talent that will never be remembered and that’s a sad thing. It’s not about the k’s it’s about the form that leads to it.
I used to throw a knuckle ball and it would swirl like a cork. It was crazy and everyone was blown away. I could throw all kinds of crazy pitches. My curve could curve 3-4 feet in towards the plate. Ahh....memories. 😊
Rotating way more than you're saying lol. It makes a few revolutions on its way to the plate...
Feel free to check my math, but:
(60.5 feet) / (58 miles per hour * 1/60 hours per minute * 5280 feet per mile) * (41 revolutions per minute) ≈ 0.49 revolutions
The distance from the release point to the plate is also less than the distance from the mound to the plate, so the total revolutions will be lower.
its shown in a zoomed-in view of an already low-definition video, so I think that might just be compression artifacts playing tricks on your eyes. I agree it looks like rotation, who knows.
@@armchair.9664 100% not compression artifacts lol
@@jacoblee6079 Feel free to check your eyes bro
@@joshlynch5676 yeah when I looked at it again I agree, those are rotations. I wonder if the method they use to calculate spin rate is inaccurate for lower spin rates.
That ball made numerous rotations before it reached home plate.
Mayfield, cousin of Wakefield
Do you know what RPM stands for? If it’s revolving 41 times a minute it’s spinning knucklehead. A knuckle ball doesn’t spin at all. 🤦🏼
Thr fact that it says "41 revolutions per minutes" instead of "41 rotations" is halarious
The fact that your comment includes "halarious" is hilarious.
I don't even follow baseball and I thought this was fascinating.
Nasty! He’s a position player Gods sake. Shows you how talented professional athletes are.
Love the frame job by the catcher 😂
That was one of the worst I’ve ever seen!! Geez.
Mathematically it would need to be 0 RPM to read the writing
the CATCHER pulled his mitt UP INTO THE STRIKE ZONE.
The narrator on this video is as accurate as the strike zone indicator lol
You can literally watch it spin mutliple times around in the video. This isn't impressive at all.. it's a slow pitch big whoop
Exactly lol
I wish you had a chance to hit that pitch, I think you would laugh , and delete your comment
“RPMs” doesn’t make sense lmao it’s Rotations per minute
What are you even talking about? Rpm’s make perfect sense, it’s the standard way we measure spin… it’s a rate, every one minute it would make that many rotations amount, just like with mph, we’re the ball to travel at that velo for an hour, it would travel that many miles. It doesn’t mean it stayed in the air for a minute and rotated 41 times…
You drive at 60mph for 1 minute, how far did you travel? 1 mile. You throw a ball at 60rpm and it travels for 1 second, how many rotations did it have? 1 rotation. It’s a rate.
Don’t know why pitchers don’t incorporate the knuckleball into their repertoire. It’s such an effective pitch especially against the big swinging sluggers. You really have to square up the ball and hit it on the best part of the bat to get a HR because the batter is supplying all the power.
Super Jack!? Niiiiice!😂👌🏾. Peace from your boys in H-town.✌🏾
Angel Hernandez, an Ump who’s been doing it for years, had his brain break with that pitch
As an umpire, low pitches won’t get called as much if the ball is going rly slow. Fast pitches may even get a bit more calls in the lower part of the zone js because of how the pitch crosses the plate.
A good knuckler goes up, down and all directions before getting home.
Messed the ump up so much that he called it a ball rather than a strike lol.
“Pulled an angel Hernandez” classic
This is exactly why you need a robot. It went through the strike zone and just because the old man didn’t see it or couldn’t call it right doesn’t make it a strike.
Stat cast history. Had friend’s that threw better knuckleball’s. They need a few knuckleball pitcher’s to come back into the game. Especially with the time’d pitches coming.
I didn’t know how much a pitcher can anticipate and how many variables there are in a toss of the baseball. 😮
That pitch was definitely a strike; it even showed the catcher catching the ball inside the strike zone; keep in mind that that box diagram is at the very front of the plate, and the catcher is probably at least 4 ft. further back from the front of the plate; as slow as that pitch was thrown, and as fast as it was dropping, the ball was probably at least 4" higher when it crossed the plate. The box diagram shows the location of the ball where the catcher catches it, and like I said, even with the catcher being 4 ft. back, it still showed him catching it in the strike zone; add at least 4" of height to the pitch when it crossed the plate and you definitely have a strike; ... BAD CALL, UMP!!!
41 rpm, 58 mph. That's 41 rev / 60 sec.
A 58 mph pitch takes roughly 0.6 seconds to reach home plate. So the ball rotated 0.41 times. Less than one revolution.
Important to note that figure uses 60.5 feet as the distance. Given that a pitcher actually releases the ball 3-5 feet ahead of the pitcher's rubber, the ball travels a slightly less distance, meaning the revolutions would also be slightly fewer.
It's just beachballing, it's incredible.