We put a deposit on a yellow one this past weekend - delivery in about 6 weeks. We pulled shots from various similar priced, higher-end espresso machines (ECM, Rocket, Lelit and Profitec) at the same boutique, using the same water (not plumbed), beans, grind size/quantity and 2:1 ratio, and there was just no comparison. The Micra was superior in taste, aroma, structure and complexity and its crema was simply incredible and it appears that flow control is an unnecessary feature when the quality of the machine itself is this high. It is beautifully designed and constructed and it's size is perfect for our kitchen. The higher cost of the Micra was money very well spent.
Well I bought one before watching lol. Received a couple weeks ago along with a Plumb in kit. Awesome machine. Upgraded from an Expobar Office Leva E61 and this thing is an absolute monster compared performance wise. Much smaller but really awesome. My only complaint honestly is the app sometimes it connect sometimes it doesn’t but honestly forgivable. I wish I had a bit more space aswell for a larger cup and scale configuration but tbh after making coffee a lot you get into your zone. The Steam on this is incredible. The curve never bothered me once you get used to it. I’m in love with it. Great video talking about many things. This user highly recommends. I thought I would really miss features like flow control etc etc but honestly having messed with all that for years I’d rather enjoy great repeatable coffee easily than tinker with trying to find all possible flavor variations within a coffee. I prefer to leave the delicious lighter roasts to pour overs than have something be almost impossible to repeat. This thing makes awesome coffee that’s repeatable and honestly easy.
Been thinking about buying a Linea Micra for awhile now. Some have said it does well on light roast espresso if the brew pressure is lowered to 6 bar. Have you tried that method? Also it seems if plumb in to external container of water with accumulator and pump makes this almost perfect with addition to preinfuse so then only missing that flow-pressure profiling, but like you say challenge to repeat exactly the next shot let alone a day later. Also I can see how one can get lost in flow control like today I'll go 3 bar for 8 seconds then straight to 9 bar and next I'll go straight to 8-9 bar for 15 seconds then ramp down and finish at 4-5 bar and never really decide what's "best". Think someone said something like flow control is for exploring every aspect of a particular bean-roast while the Micra is about exploring various coffees easily that's repeatable, as well is very forgiving. By chance what grinder do you use? If something 'mid-range' like a DF64, Eureka Oro, Specialita, Niche Zero do you think that pairs well with the Micra or if more expensive like Atom 75 does the Micra bring out even more consistency and deeper flavors than with the E61? Regards,
@@nittygritty7434 I have a DF83 with SSP HU burr, and an 1zpresso K Ultra hand grinder(for Pour overs mostly Although have ground some incredible espresso on it) I haven’t tried that yet but to be honest Light Roast Espresso might just not be to my palette as I’ve in very many years trying in a whole lot of places not truly loved the results. I’m speaking more Nordic style light roast. Many lighter medium roasts I’ve very much enjoyed and a Coffee Company like Passenger out of Lancaster I’ve had great shot results with. The DF83 with the Micra is hands down better coffee’s. I really enjoy cappuccinos and this thing same grinder same coffee as on the E61 I instantly thought wow that is so much better. And repeatable
Did you use the plumb kit? Is it such that you need to plumb it into your water line and it is under pressure? Or can you plumb it to another reservoir so you just have more water flowing into the tank?
Great video chaps I’m in the uk and on the cusp of buying one, I was looking to go and have a trial with one (which I will likely do still ) but this has answered pretty much all my questions 🤓 and with no BS ! I also love the degree of detail that tickles my OCD requirements 😄I find videos are always better when you can tell that someone is really into what they are talking about. You have a new subscriber. Oh and thanks really appreciate the effort 🙏
I am now a proud owner of a Micra and I absolutely love it. The main thing for me is the horse power difference, it’s a small and fully operational battle station. It took me a few weeks to get used to it with the steam wand as coming from a Sage dual boiler there is a notable difference. Having now used it for a couple of months I absolutely love it, it’s quick, quiet (the rotary pump so quiet to what I was used to) very robust and generally just a nice experience to use. I feel very blessed to have it.
@@robcarpenter303 sounds great. Did you buy direct from La marzocco? I believe they have a store in London so I’m going to go and try one at some point. Also, what’s the deal with servicing? I never see that mentioned
Yes direct from them, not entirely sure with servicing yet, however the box/ crate is pretty sturdy that it comes in and would definitely advise keeping it for that exact reason. I don’t know how invested in the hobby you are but if you can try one I would as they will likely give you some good advice also the steam certainly has its own little nuances which come with quite a steep learning g curve, however as advised once mastered you’ll not look back (in my opinion). I have spoken with them regarding a couple of bits and they were very helpful.
Thanks for info Rob, my partner is very into it too which helps make this a half price machine in my eyes! Great to hear you are enjoying it!@@robcarpenter303
FYI, something about the steam wand I didn’t understand when I got mine and most other people don’t seem to realize: you can obviously pull it forward like in this video for steaming in small milk pitchers like the one it ships with. But you can also pull it to the side and kinda reverse it to fit deeper in large pitchers. Seems obvious once you do it but surprisingly not obvious at all. Also, the app has terrible reviews but I have no idea what people are on about.. mine works flawlessly and hasn’t glitched once.
The app is ok-ish, but it sucks in many ways. There is a status screen that shows you the temp - but not the actual temp, just the destination temp that is set. To change it, you have to switch to a different screen - why?? To switch on the steam boiler you need to go to the status screen?! But to change the steam heat, you have to go yet again to another screen - wtaf? All in all it just barely does what it has do, but it looks and feels like it has been made by some absolute beginner who just made his first working app. Not quite up to the standards of the machine itself.
Great video! I have been looking to upgrade my Gaggia & your video helped. I purchased the red Micra this week & now the wait starts. Thanks again for the detailed video.
I've been reading on the Apple site that the overwhelming response to the app (essential to full operation) is that it's total rubbish. Buggy and requires constant reconnections. Let's face it, 1.8 stars isn't great. I also read that pre-infusion is only available if you plumb it in vs the reservoir. Are they addressing this?
I have the app. It's not as bad as that, but it kinda sucks. But it does the job it needs to do. I never had connection issues. Works locally and remotely. You can set temp, steam, watch a few statistics, and that works. But it looks like the work of a beginner tbh. And yes real preinfusion is only possible by plumbing, because it needs the line pressure for that not the pump pressure. There is however an option to do a fake preinfusion by pump. It works. I doubt you will need that though.
Great and informative video! It's a really nice unit that I'd love to buy but the price point is really really high at 6208 with taxes, for a home machine. I think the mini is better priced since it's meant to go in a low-mid volume coffee shop and the money can be made back within the first year as well as being a tax deductible expense, effectively making it only a $1200 difference between the two. I wonder how well it will do in our market considering the current economic climate.
I pretty much agree with everything you say, but frankly, even taking into account the quality of the materials used, at that price, the Micra should incorporate the Flow Profile system and it's a real shame that the paddle is just a switch. What a shame...
Watch to the 23 min mark, where we discuss how the app works. As soon as you start the shot, the timer on your app auto engages and shuts of when you stop it
i just love this 2024. After 2020 any everyone going crazy about hygiene. it's good for my soul to see normal human beings sharing a cup of espresso. Thank you for the video, it was just worth while seeing that. Shows you how well humans can put that BS behind us and still be real and empathetic to one another.
I have owned this less than a year and I've had multiple problems, first rotary pump went on it and had to be replaced and now once again after I get it back after two months, another problem it just stopped working and does not turn on anymore. It is actually being repaired as we speak. I have never been more disappointed in my life with a machine that I've spent over $6000, it's pretty sad. The LaMarzocco has not been on top of their game when it comes to this machine I do not recommend this machine and I would never purchase anything from them again.
Yes no one is talking about this I know someone who repairs espresso machines and they get alot of calls about the Micra. They were shocked at the construction on the inside
It is smaller, cheaper, and heats up much faster (5min). I own a GS3, but would love the speed and compactness of this. This assuming the espresso is just as good, which seems to be the case.
I would have never bought the Mini. Way too big and too expensive. Just complete overkill for at home use. The micra is still overkill, but not quite as much, it's much smaller and also around 2k cheaper. Perfect high end machine for non commercial use.
personal preference bla bla everyone's experience valid bla bla z.z.z.z ... [bullshit filter applied] >> #1: I like bright coffee! ; #2 There is a sweet spot. #[me] Keep it in the oven til you get that excess grass out of my coffee and don't bother too much about the new-world fruit.
@@dgwilkes1 Still seems ridiculous imo from a value proposition.. can hardly fit a cup under the Micra. Again the premium is mostly for the name. To each their own. I would much rather spend 3000-4000 on a better grinder, and if you have the budget for that range I dont see anyone pairing that level grinder with a Micra.
Hey I agree! There are better value propositions out there. I know I would be unable to justify these prices for sure. You can see the rep was dancing around the fact that you basically can't fit a cappuccino mug on a scale w/ the micra. I just noticed you had mixed up a historical price of the mini with the current price of the micra. @@skyking9248
If you used a computer or phone to post this comment, it’s not much different than using the app to change your brew temp or monitor shot time. Certainly easier than opening the machine and manually adjusting the pressure stat or tapping your feet to count time….but there’s also plenty of machines out there if you prefer it traditional
You can use the Micra right out of the box without using the app. The stock factory settings make sense for most people. You only need to interact with the app if you want to adjust brew temp, steam pressure, preinfusion settings, or wake up timers. Day to day use doesn't require any app interaction.
I think the most annoying thing is that it's not a direct connection to the device (espresso machine). It connects to their cloud etc. so if their cloud goes down or one of their dependencies does, you can't use the mobile app. Furthermore, if there is any issue with the app, or it gets pulled from the store, again, no settings can be changed. It would just be nice to have some sort of backup, but by any means. Direct connection for instance, the espresso machine host a basic web server either over WiFi or even with a cable.
For me, I use the app and change the boiler and steam settings without connecting directly to their cloud. I don't really use the app other than for initial set-up. Firmware updates however, come from their cloud server. I find it similar to using my app to download updates on my Garmin marine GPS or mirror the display image to my smartphone.
I just watched all 49 minutes. My girlfriend is very worried I’ll make the purchase 😬
We put a deposit on a yellow one this past weekend - delivery in about 6 weeks. We pulled shots from various similar priced, higher-end espresso machines (ECM, Rocket, Lelit and Profitec) at the same boutique, using the same water (not plumbed), beans, grind size/quantity and 2:1 ratio, and there was just no comparison. The Micra was superior in taste, aroma, structure and complexity and its crema was simply incredible and it appears that flow control is an unnecessary feature when the quality of the machine itself is this high. It is beautifully designed and constructed and it's size is perfect for our kitchen. The higher cost of the Micra was money very well spent.
I Just bought a white one 5 days ago. The countdown begins!! lol
Interesting to hear, I’m trying to work out if this is worth double a profitec pro 600, ideally will test but heart is set on the micra
Have you had any issues? Espresso machine repair shops have been getting a lot of these in
@@joeensley3912 Have had the machine for about a month now. No issues at all. Simply the best espressos we have ever had. Worth every dollar.
@@andrewcouper770 Worth the extra money.
Thanks, guys. A no-BS review/discussion. Not a cheap machine, so really appreciated your video.
Thank you. Glad it was helpful!
Well I bought one before watching lol. Received a couple weeks ago along with a Plumb in kit. Awesome machine. Upgraded from an Expobar Office Leva E61 and this thing is an absolute monster compared performance wise. Much smaller but really awesome. My only complaint honestly is the app sometimes it connect sometimes it doesn’t but honestly forgivable. I wish I had a bit more space aswell for a larger cup and scale configuration but tbh after making coffee a lot you get into your zone. The Steam on this is incredible. The curve never bothered me once you get used to it. I’m in love with it. Great video talking about many things. This user highly recommends.
I thought I would really miss features like flow control etc etc but honestly having messed with all that for years I’d rather enjoy great repeatable coffee easily than tinker with trying to find all possible flavor variations within a coffee. I prefer to leave the delicious lighter roasts to pour overs than have something be almost impossible to repeat. This thing makes awesome coffee that’s repeatable and honestly easy.
Been thinking about buying a Linea Micra for awhile now. Some have said it does well on light roast espresso if the brew pressure is lowered to 6 bar. Have you tried that method? Also it seems if plumb in to external container of water with accumulator and pump makes this almost perfect with addition to preinfuse so then only missing that flow-pressure profiling, but like you say challenge to repeat exactly the next shot let alone a day later. Also I can see how one can get lost in flow control like today I'll go 3 bar for 8 seconds then straight to 9 bar and next I'll go straight to 8-9 bar for 15 seconds then ramp down and finish at 4-5 bar and never really decide what's "best". Think someone said something like flow control is for exploring every aspect of a particular bean-roast while the Micra is about exploring various coffees easily that's repeatable, as well is very forgiving. By chance what grinder do you use? If something 'mid-range' like a DF64, Eureka Oro, Specialita, Niche Zero do you think that pairs well with the Micra or if more expensive like Atom 75 does the Micra bring out even more consistency and deeper flavors than with the E61? Regards,
@@nittygritty7434 I have a DF83 with SSP HU burr, and an 1zpresso K Ultra hand grinder(for Pour overs mostly Although have ground some incredible espresso on it) I haven’t tried that yet but to be honest Light Roast Espresso might just not be to my palette as I’ve in very many years trying in a whole lot of places not truly loved the results. I’m speaking more Nordic style light roast. Many lighter medium roasts I’ve very much enjoyed and a Coffee Company like Passenger out of Lancaster I’ve had great shot results with.
The DF83 with the Micra is hands down better coffee’s. I really enjoy cappuccinos and this thing same grinder same coffee as on the E61 I instantly thought wow that is so much better. And repeatable
Did you use the plumb kit?
Is it such that you need to plumb it into your water line and it is under pressure? Or can you plumb it to another reservoir so you just have more water flowing into the tank?
@@matthewwebb9137 you plumb it in and use the line pressure as it gives you the added benefit of preinfusion with that pressure.
anybody heard about leaks from the micra
Great video chaps I’m in the uk and on the cusp of buying one, I was looking to go and have a trial with one (which I will likely do still ) but this has answered pretty much all my questions 🤓 and with no BS ! I also love the degree of detail that tickles my OCD requirements 😄I find videos are always better when you can tell that someone is really into what they are talking about. You have a new subscriber. Oh and thanks really appreciate the effort 🙏
Did you go for one? I’m on the the fence between sensibly getting a profitec 700 or going with my heart and getting this beauty
I am now a proud owner of a Micra and I absolutely love it. The main thing for me is the horse power difference, it’s a small and fully operational battle station. It took me a few weeks to get used to it with the steam wand as coming from a Sage dual boiler there is a notable difference. Having now used it for a couple of months I absolutely love it, it’s quick, quiet (the rotary pump so quiet to what I was used to) very robust and generally just a nice experience to use. I feel very blessed to have it.
@@robcarpenter303 sounds great. Did you buy direct from La marzocco? I believe they have a store in London so I’m going to go and try one at some point. Also, what’s the deal with servicing? I never see that mentioned
Yes direct from them, not entirely sure with servicing yet, however the box/ crate is pretty sturdy that it comes in and would definitely advise keeping it for that exact reason. I don’t know how invested in the hobby you are but if you can try one I would as they will likely give you some good advice also the steam certainly has its own little nuances which come with quite a steep learning g curve, however as advised once mastered you’ll not look back (in my opinion). I have spoken with them regarding a couple of bits and they were very helpful.
Thanks for info Rob, my partner is very into it too which helps make this a half price machine in my eyes! Great to hear you are enjoying it!@@robcarpenter303
This guy can talk!!! 🤨🤨🤨
FYI, something about the steam wand I didn’t understand when I got mine and most other people don’t seem to realize: you can obviously pull it forward like in this video for steaming in small milk pitchers like the one it ships with. But you can also pull it to the side and kinda reverse it to fit deeper in large pitchers. Seems obvious once you do it but surprisingly not obvious at all. Also, the app has terrible reviews but I have no idea what people are on about.. mine works flawlessly and hasn’t glitched once.
The app is ok-ish, but it sucks in many ways. There is a status screen that shows you the temp - but not the actual temp, just the destination temp that is set. To change it, you have to switch to a different screen - why?? To switch on the steam boiler you need to go to the status screen?! But to change the steam heat, you have to go yet again to another screen - wtaf? All in all it just barely does what it has do, but it looks and feels like it has been made by some absolute beginner who just made his first working app. Not quite up to the standards of the machine itself.
Great video! I have been looking to upgrade my Gaggia & your video helped. I purchased the red Micra this week & now the wait starts. Thanks again for the detailed video.
The Micra is amazing - definitely a step up from my previous e61 Quick Mill HX machine.
Very helpful video. Be good to see your take on the new mini r too 👍
Great video. Its really useful and easy to understand.
Let's just side step the teflon steamer 😂...ill have no teflon in my coffee machine please. Thank you!
Never leave ground coffee on the side with no actions
Energy vampire in da house.
I've been reading on the Apple site that the overwhelming response to the app (essential to full operation) is that it's total rubbish. Buggy and requires constant reconnections. Let's face it, 1.8 stars isn't great. I also read that pre-infusion is only available if you plumb it in vs the reservoir. Are they addressing this?
I have the app. It's not as bad as that, but it kinda sucks. But it does the job it needs to do. I never had connection issues. Works locally and remotely. You can set temp, steam, watch a few statistics, and that works. But it looks like the work of a beginner tbh. And yes real preinfusion is only possible by plumbing, because it needs the line pressure for that not the pump pressure. There is however an option to do a fake preinfusion by pump. It works. I doubt you will need that though.
Great and informative video! It's a really nice unit that I'd love to buy but the price point is really really high at 6208 with taxes, for a home machine. I think the mini is better priced since it's meant to go in a low-mid volume coffee shop and the money can be made back within the first year as well as being a tax deductible expense, effectively making it only a $1200 difference between the two. I wonder how well it will do in our market considering the current economic climate.
I pretty much agree with everything you say, but frankly, even taking into account the quality of the materials used, at that price, the Micra should incorporate the Flow Profile system and it's a real shame that the paddle is just a switch. What a shame...
Do you have to use the app for the luddites?
It actually doesn't come with a 21g basket. It only comes with 17g and 14g baskets. Nevertheless, I am absolutely happy with my Micra.
If you ask your dealer, you will get the basket and a few other gimmicks as well ;)
does it bug you that there isn't a shot timer?
Watch to the 23 min mark, where we discuss how the app works.
As soon as you start the shot, the timer on your app auto engages and shuts of when you stop it
i just love this 2024. After 2020 any everyone going crazy about hygiene. it's good for my soul to see normal human beings sharing a cup of espresso. Thank you for the video, it was just worth while seeing that. Shows you how well humans can put that BS behind us and still be real and empathetic to one another.
I have owned this less than a year and I've had multiple problems, first rotary pump went on it and had to be replaced and now once again after I get it back after two months, another problem it just stopped working and does not turn on anymore. It is actually being repaired as we speak. I have never been more disappointed in my life with a machine that I've spent over $6000, it's pretty sad. The LaMarzocco has not been on top of their game when it comes to this machine I do not recommend this machine and I would never purchase anything from them again.
Yes no one is talking about this I know someone who repairs espresso machines and they get alot of calls about the Micra. They were shocked at the construction on the inside
Similar Steamboiler??? The mini has 3L Steam Boiler.😮
coz is mini, not micra?
@@eduard-alexandrulomanar3065 ?
How many boilers are there in the micra?
I had the mini. But why would they release micra. Not sure what's the purpose of it over mini
It is smaller, cheaper, and heats up much faster (5min). I own a GS3, but would love the speed and compactness of this. This assuming the espresso is just as good, which seems to be the case.
I would have never bought the Mini. Way too big and too expensive. Just complete overkill for at home use. The micra is still overkill, but not quite as much, it's much smaller and also around 2k cheaper. Perfect high end machine for non commercial use.
Meecra?
Yeah that leapt out at me too.
'Mee-kra'. I suppose it's the Italian pronunciation tho rather than the English 'My-kra'... 🤣
Whenever the title says “Don’t do this or don’t buy it”. People will end up buying it! Reverse psychology at its best in the consumer world!
como me dolio a los ojos que diga the la marzocco
Chulada!!
personal preference bla bla everyone's experience valid bla bla z.z.z.z ... [bullshit filter applied] >> #1: I like bright coffee! ; #2 There is a sweet spot. #[me] Keep it in the oven til you get that excess grass out of my coffee and don't bother too much about the new-world fruit.
I love it: invest in making coffee at home. The great American sales pitch. What utter bull shit.
5,400 before tax and no flow control. Nice machine, too expensive imo for the name.
The micra is $3900 USD MSRP.
@@dgwilkes1 Still seems ridiculous imo from a value proposition.. can hardly fit a cup under the Micra. Again the premium is mostly for the name. To each their own. I would much rather spend 3000-4000 on a better grinder, and if you have the budget for that range I dont see anyone pairing that level grinder with a Micra.
Hey I agree! There are better value propositions out there. I know I would be unable to justify these prices for sure. You can see the rep was dancing around the fact that you basically can't fit a cappuccino mug on a scale w/ the micra.
I just noticed you had mixed up a historical price of the mini with the current price of the micra. @@skyking9248
5400 is CAD$
too much automation, I should not have to use an app to use a machine, I woudl never buy one of these.
If you used a computer or phone to post this comment, it’s not much different than using the app to change your brew temp or monitor shot time. Certainly easier than opening the machine and manually adjusting the pressure stat or tapping your feet to count time….but there’s also plenty of machines out there if you prefer it traditional
You can use the Micra right out of the box without using the app. The stock factory settings make sense for most people. You only need to interact with the app if you want to adjust brew temp, steam pressure, preinfusion settings, or wake up timers. Day to day use doesn't require any app interaction.
I think the most annoying thing is that it's not a direct connection to the device (espresso machine). It connects to their cloud etc. so if their cloud goes down or one of their dependencies does, you can't use the mobile app. Furthermore, if there is any issue with the app, or it gets pulled from the store, again, no settings can be changed. It would just be nice to have some sort of backup, but by any means. Direct connection for instance, the espresso machine host a basic web server either over WiFi or even with a cable.
For me, I use the app and change the boiler and steam settings without connecting directly to their cloud. I don't really use the app other than for initial set-up. Firmware updates however, come from their cloud server. I find it similar to using my app to download updates on my Garmin marine GPS or mirror the display image to my smartphone.
@@peteking9696omg talk about neat picking!