On accident I stumbled on this tonight pulled a wool area rug from garage attic. Sound system in garage low end expanded nicely when this rug rolled out about a foot in front of subs. 2 car garage 5x8 wool rug. The dampening might have improved other areas as well but that was noticeable when I walked across garage.
Cool Video Dude Im Just Soundproofing My Garage Going To Put A layer Of Rubber On The Floor Then Solid Wood Its A small Space 20ft by 8ft.I used 100mm row3 rockwool Then Acoustic Plasterboard Then Acoustic Wood,Im Going To Carpet The Walls And Ceiling I think
Awesome question! To be honest with you the biggest benefit about that is going to be comfort and preventing damage on your hardwoods from chairs/floor traffic. There is no exact “acoustical benefit” from area rugs - as their absorption coefficient is completely unpredictable and is widely going to be affected by the thickness, density, type of material used in the rug… Another thing that you’ll see commonly done is putting area rug(s) that match the aesthetic of the mixing room… I feel that approach can really tie the whole space together, which can create an awesome ambience! “They” say the better your environment is, the better your creations will be! Hopefully that helps out a bit.
Thanks. I'm not a musician. I just need to deal with the inconveniences of great rooms. There are dense area rugs, but it's still too loud. I'm glad to know that carpets only absorb high-frequency sounds.
Yep! Good observation - you can always lower the “room noise“ by adding absorption or diffusion panels if it fits the aesthetic! We have people use our products in non-music applications every day! Classrooms, living spaces, restaurants etc. are some of the most ideal scenarios for utilizing acoustical treatments. Let me know if you would like some different ideas of how you could acoustically improve your space(s) & I’ll be glad to help you out!
@@NGAcoustics Thank you! I'd like some sort of sound absorbing mat under and around the washer, dryer, and fridge. Could putting something on the tops and bottoms of cabinets, and maybe under the steel sink, help reduce the echo? Does a door help more than a curtain in hallways? Would curtains help at all? The office has glass French doors which need a covering. My room has a loud HVAC thing in the ceiling. Can something on the ceiling contain that noise?
Lots of good questions & there’s lots of ground to cover there! Shoot an email over to INFO@NGAcoustics.com w/ contact info and we’ll schedule a call to discuss different possibilities/solutions in more detail with you!
I've got 4" thick 2' x 4' panels of Owens Corning 703 in my listening room at my primary and secondary reflection points and now it seems like my high frequencies are slightly over-damped. Was thinking that I might change out my silk dome tweeters for titanium but then I realized that perhaps first I need to yank up the carpet in the room and replace that with flooring instead. I got such an incredible improvement from the acoustic panels that it occurred to me that experimenting with the speaker design should be the LAST thing that I do when I have wall-to-wall carpet in the room.
You are right on target! Actually, it could even be MORE problematic if you change out your monitor speakers… Since you are already “familiar“ with the frequency response and playback of those monitors, changing them out will only add more variables to the equation! I would highly suggest removing all the carpets and putting down real hardwood or laminate hardwood and then treating with area rugs to taste! (If needed)! Also this should help keeping the frequency response more “balanced” and not “over-dampened“.. Report back with your results I would love to hear! Best of luck to you Dennis!
@@NGAcoustics - Thank you for your feedback. I'm running these speakers as dual-use (2-channel music/home theater). They are home-built, a DIY MTM design by Joseph D'Appolito. The amazing thing is that after installing the panels, I was able to get EXCELLENT sound by completely removing any equalization at all that was applied by my receiver (Pioneer Elite with MCACC) from the front channels. That's what made me suspect that changing tweeters was the wrong approach.
Excellent observation Dennis! Many times as a room becomes more “balanced” acoustically speaking - People tend to prefer a “flat” frequency response out of their monitoring set up… As it will more accurately represent the source material being played (and that’s what us audiophiles love)!!
Greetings. I am setting up my studio but pulling up the carpet is a no go with the wife . I want to use 6" bass traps in the corners from wall to sealing and two 4" panels in my 1st reflection area and that's it. The room is 14'x12' with 8' ceilings. What do you recommend?
Thanks for the comment! To better help you please fill out my free room analysis form (Which will give me the information I need to know about your room) & I can get back to you with an ideal treatment solution! Or we can even cover things over the phone together. Here’s a link to get you started: www.ngacoustics.com/pages/free-room-analysis
I’ve never actually seen any acoustical test data and frequency absorption response results for gym matt flooring. However I can tell you through personal experience of being in Gyms - they are quite reflective, live and have excessive reverberation times usually. We have actually acoustically treated private fitness facilities before - usually if they invest in a really nice sound system for their gym - and they aren’t even able to hear it clearly because of the excessive reverberation (due to the aesthetics of a standard gym). I would stick to what is tried and true if your goal is either recording, mixing or mastering… Which is a hardwood floor. Wood is one of the most “acoustically friendly“ materials known to man - which is why you see acoustic instruments made with real wood species etc… Even various species of wood can create different “tones“.. This is why custom drums are made out of different species of wood depending on how “bright or dark“ you want the sound to be (same with stringed instruments as well).
Also, to further expand upon this… You will actually see hardwood floors in Top tier gyms (such as professional NBA courts) like Madison Square garden etc. 👍
I have a Room of 7ft wide , 9ft length and 9ft height ..how many 2" Rockwool Acoustic panels should I put in there to make that room good for Recording, Mixing and Mastering ? ( And I don't have a Perfect Corner on my left wall where I can put bass trap ..so only right wall have a perfect corner )
Why is it a mystery to people that carpet makes a room sound better? Try adding book cases with lots of different size books, standing and stacked on their sides randomly. People absolutely ruin their rooms making them sterile and plain inside because that's what they read and hear from the so called professional stereo groups with their mic's and computer software. Create a enjoyable room to be in, the music will sound much better.
Love the video. Great info. Do you think low pile is better than a thick pile or say a shag rug for Voiceover work too? Trying to convert a 5x4 closet into a vocal booth. Thanks man for any help!
Thanks for the feedback! Certainly understandable. We’ve improved upon audio quality in the newer videos. The original intent was to quickly help our customers who have questions about our room treatment products. The main issue with this video’s sound was never the room noise (or poor room acoustics) but was caused by a crappy signal chain. Made only for quick CZcams videos. Once we added in some compression (in protools) and used better converters, everything else improved! 👍Make sure to subscribe for more updates!!
Saying that carpet sucks up all of the high frequency is extremely exaggerated. Lots of serious and professional studios have carpet floors. No one just uses carpets to tame bass or mid-frequency reflections that's what the 4" or 6" acoustic panels on the walls and ceiling are for. No one uses carpet for bass absorption. The level of high-frequency absorption of carpet is pretty small. Carpet is super useful for taming HIGH-FREQUENCY reflections. Telling your audience that taming floor reflections from wood (NRC = 0.07) are easy is deceptive as a solid wood floor requires a lot of testing, a lot of taming, and a lot of acoustic treatment on the walls and ceiling. This is exactly why you see a lot of big area rugs on wood floor studios. No one demonizes thick area rugs on wood floor studios, but oh man... talk about a thin area of carpet and it's the devil himself!
Obviously you did not watch the whole video… What we recommend is using hardwood floors with area rugs… So you have elements that you CAN control… We even give a link to where people can order a rug for their studio in the description of the video! Having a FULLY carpeted room (often times with material that you did not select for functional purposes) is never the ideal scenario… Please actually watch the content before making a long winded response that was literally suggested in the content 😉
On accident I stumbled on this tonight pulled a wool area rug from garage attic. Sound system in garage low end expanded nicely when this rug rolled out about a foot in front of subs. 2 car garage 5x8 wool rug. The dampening might have improved other areas as well but that was noticeable when I walked across garage.
Nice! 👍
Cool Video Dude Im Just Soundproofing My Garage Going To Put A layer Of Rubber On The Floor Then Solid Wood
Its A small Space 20ft by 8ft.I used 100mm row3 rockwool Then Acoustic Plasterboard Then Acoustic Wood,Im Going To Carpet The Walls And Ceiling I think
Very cool! Good luck!
How about producing and mixing in a hardwood floor room?
Would an area rug under the sitting/listening position offer any benefit?
Awesome question! To be honest with you the biggest benefit about that is going to be comfort and preventing damage on your hardwoods from chairs/floor traffic. There is no exact “acoustical benefit” from area rugs - as their absorption coefficient is completely unpredictable and is widely going to be affected by the thickness, density, type of material used in the rug… Another thing that you’ll see commonly done is putting area rug(s) that match the aesthetic of the mixing room…
I feel that approach can really tie the whole space together, which can create an awesome ambience!
“They” say the better your environment is, the better your creations will be!
Hopefully that helps out a bit.
Thanks. I'm not a musician. I just need to deal with the inconveniences of great rooms. There are dense area rugs, but it's still too loud. I'm glad to know that carpets only absorb high-frequency sounds.
Yep! Good observation - you can always lower the “room noise“ by adding absorption or diffusion panels if it fits the aesthetic! We have people use our products in non-music applications every day! Classrooms, living spaces, restaurants etc. are some of the most ideal scenarios for utilizing acoustical treatments. Let me know if you would like some different ideas of how you could acoustically improve your space(s) & I’ll be glad to help you out!
@@NGAcoustics Thank you! I'd like some sort of sound absorbing mat under and around the washer, dryer, and fridge. Could putting something on the tops and bottoms of cabinets, and maybe under the steel sink, help reduce the echo? Does a door help more than a curtain in hallways? Would curtains help at all? The office has glass French doors which need a covering. My room has a loud HVAC thing in the ceiling. Can something on the ceiling contain that noise?
Lots of good questions & there’s lots of ground to cover there!
Shoot an email over to INFO@NGAcoustics.com w/ contact info and we’ll schedule a call to discuss different possibilities/solutions in more detail with you!
I've got 4" thick 2' x 4' panels of Owens Corning 703 in my listening room at my primary and secondary reflection points and now it seems like my high frequencies are slightly over-damped. Was thinking that I might change out my silk dome tweeters for titanium but then I realized that perhaps first I need to yank up the carpet in the room and replace that with flooring instead. I got such an incredible improvement from the acoustic panels that it occurred to me that experimenting with the speaker design should be the LAST thing that I do when I have wall-to-wall carpet in the room.
You are right on target! Actually, it could even be MORE problematic if you change out your monitor speakers… Since you are already “familiar“ with the frequency response and playback of those monitors, changing them out will only add more variables to the equation! I would highly suggest removing all the carpets and putting down real hardwood or laminate hardwood and then treating with area rugs to taste! (If needed)! Also this should help keeping the frequency response more “balanced” and not “over-dampened“.. Report back with your results I would love to hear! Best of luck to you Dennis!
@@NGAcoustics - Thank you for your feedback. I'm running these speakers as dual-use (2-channel music/home theater). They are home-built, a DIY MTM design by Joseph D'Appolito. The amazing thing is that after installing the panels, I was able to get EXCELLENT sound by completely removing any equalization at all that was applied by my receiver (Pioneer Elite with MCACC) from the front channels. That's what made me suspect that changing tweeters was the wrong approach.
Excellent observation Dennis! Many times as a room becomes more “balanced” acoustically speaking - People tend to prefer a “flat” frequency response out of their monitoring set up… As it will more accurately represent the source material being played (and that’s what us audiophiles love)!!
Greetings. I am setting up my studio but pulling up the carpet is a no go with the wife . I want to use 6" bass traps in the corners from wall to sealing and two 4" panels in my 1st reflection area and that's it. The room is 14'x12' with 8' ceilings. What do you recommend?
Thanks for the comment!
To better help you please fill out my free room analysis form (Which will give me the information I need to know about your room) & I can get back to you with an ideal treatment solution! Or we can even cover things over the phone together.
Here’s a link to get you started:
www.ngacoustics.com/pages/free-room-analysis
What about using Gym Floor?
I’ve never actually seen any acoustical test data and frequency absorption response results for gym matt flooring. However I can tell you through personal experience of being in Gyms - they are quite reflective, live and have excessive reverberation times usually. We have actually acoustically treated private fitness facilities before - usually if they invest in a really nice sound system for their gym - and they aren’t even able to hear it clearly because of the excessive reverberation (due to the aesthetics of a standard gym). I would stick to what is tried and true if your goal is either recording, mixing or mastering… Which is a hardwood floor. Wood is one of the most “acoustically friendly“ materials known to man - which is why you see acoustic instruments made with real wood species etc… Even various species of wood can create different “tones“.. This is why custom drums are made out of different species of wood depending on how “bright or dark“ you want the sound to be (same with stringed instruments as well).
Also, to further expand upon this… You will actually see hardwood floors in Top tier gyms (such as professional NBA courts) like Madison Square garden etc. 👍
I have a Room of 7ft wide , 9ft length and 9ft height ..how many 2" Rockwool Acoustic panels should I put in there to make that room good for Recording, Mixing and Mastering ? ( And I don't have a Perfect Corner on my left wall where I can put bass trap ..so only right wall have a perfect corner )
www.ngacoustics.com/pages/free-room-analysis
Good info and timely for me. About ready to buy a rug. Was going to go large - switching my thinking now to smaller and more manageable. thx
Glad the info was helpful to you!!
Why is it a mystery to people that carpet makes a room sound better?
Try adding book cases with lots of different size books, standing and stacked on their sides randomly.
People absolutely ruin their rooms making them sterile and plain inside because that's what they read and hear from the so called professional stereo groups with their mic's and computer software.
Create a enjoyable room to be in, the music will sound much better.
Love the video. Great info. Do you think low pile is better than a thick pile or say a shag rug for Voiceover work too? Trying to convert a 5x4 closet into a vocal booth. Thanks man for any help!
Good question! It’s typically ideal to rock with “low pile/high density” if a rug is being used on the floor.
@@NGAcoustics thanks!
Maybe your video is a good video...but when i hear the sound quality...how can i trust this?!
Thanks for the feedback! Certainly understandable. We’ve improved upon audio quality in the newer videos. The original intent was to quickly help our customers who have questions about our room treatment products. The main issue with this video’s sound was never the room noise (or poor room acoustics) but was caused by a crappy signal chain. Made only for quick CZcams videos. Once we added in some compression (in protools) and used better converters, everything else improved! 👍Make sure to subscribe for more updates!!
Diaphragmatic Absorbers
Your vocals lack depth and compression.
Still good content.
Thank you so much for the compliment! Been working to improve the audio clarity and quality in the newer videos 😀
Saying that carpet sucks up all of the high frequency is extremely exaggerated. Lots of serious and professional studios have carpet floors. No one just uses carpets to tame bass or mid-frequency reflections that's what the 4" or 6" acoustic panels on the walls and ceiling are for. No one uses carpet for bass absorption. The level of high-frequency absorption of carpet is pretty small. Carpet is super useful for taming HIGH-FREQUENCY reflections. Telling your audience that taming floor reflections from wood (NRC = 0.07) are easy is deceptive as a solid wood floor requires a lot of testing, a lot of taming, and a lot of acoustic treatment on the walls and ceiling. This is exactly why you see a lot of big area rugs on wood floor studios. No one demonizes thick area rugs on wood floor studios, but oh man... talk about a thin area of carpet and it's the devil himself!
Obviously you did not watch the whole video… What we recommend is using hardwood floors with area rugs… So you have elements that you CAN control… We even give a link to where people can order a rug for their studio in the description of the video! Having a FULLY carpeted room (often times with material that you did not select for functional purposes) is never the ideal scenario… Please actually watch the content before making a long winded response that was literally suggested in the content 😉
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