DWI Arrest Accident vs Tree US-270 White Hall Arkansas State Police Troop E, Traffic Series Ep. 189

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  • čas přidán 27. 03. 2023
  • **REVISED AUDIO/RE-RELEASE: Trp. S. Caviness (E-16) and Trp. J. Harrell (E-11) respond to a head on collision involving a tree on US-270 near White Hall. The driver of the vehicle is intoxicated.

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  • @ginajackson-crawford3218
    @ginajackson-crawford3218 Před rokem +35

    In all seriousness, Trooper Caviness telling the other trooper that he was going to be better than the county officers was top notch class. 👏👏👏 😎👍

  • @shaynedumas4436
    @shaynedumas4436 Před rokem +43

    Trooper Shane Caviness needs an award...this is one of Arkansas best troopers, he is so cool and he does try to be a damn good man....Thank you officer Caviness I love the way you treat our fellow ARKANSANS, God Bless you Sir🤟🏻💯

  • @royfaircloth
    @royfaircloth Před rokem +61

    Trooper Caviness, you are Exemplary of what a LEO should be! Thank you sir!!!!

  • @lidell56
    @lidell56 Před rokem +50

    This trooper should be an instructor. Need 1000 more. Great job.

    • @shaynedumas4436
      @shaynedumas4436 Před rokem

      Yes, Thanks...I love that trooper y'all🤟🏻💯

  • @joemvin.j3-16
    @joemvin.j3-16 Před rokem +34

    Trooper Shane Caviness has A LOT OF PATIENCE! - and she is clearly drunk!

  • @TheUncleHowdyWyatt6
    @TheUncleHowdyWyatt6 Před rokem +13

    The Arkansas State Police trooper Shane Caviness was a total sweetheart working this. But the county deputy was a total dickhead he could’ve let the family take the vehicle without towing it. Hell the family just lived down the road. Much respect to Trooper Shane Caviness we need more guys like him instead of the county deputy in Law Enforcement!

  • @Dispatcher-kv2im
    @Dispatcher-kv2im Před rokem +35

    Truly can’t thank you enough for this upload, E16 level of compassion, kindness, and professionalism was wonderful and beyond anything I’ve ever seen for a DWI arrest. Especially when he said I’m not going to do them like they do us! Wonderful to see another awesome trooper who isn’t on a power trip!⭐️💙❤️ Great things will happen in his career for sure!💙⭐️🎉🇺🇸 Way to go E16 I know you make your family and ASP Proud everyday! Stay safe and keep up your great personal and professional values as they are a wonderful mix no doubt!💙⭐️❤️🇺🇸👍🌈

  • @beatriztobon7518
    @beatriztobon7518 Před rokem +24

    Great job trooper 👏 you are a kind human being thank you for your service stay safe blessings 🙏

  • @HoneyBrown42
    @HoneyBrown42 Před rokem +18

    Trooper Caviness is becoming one of my favorites.💙

  • @barbaragholston8929
    @barbaragholston8929 Před rokem +31

    The trooper has a lot of patience. She is so drunk. OMG

  • @shsharrell9267
    @shsharrell9267 Před rokem +37

    I feel sorry for the daughter, bless her heart. No way for a teenager to grow up with problem parents. I hope the daughter gets counciling to deal with this, orherw😢 this will effect her for the rest of her life. I know all too well with an alcoholic parent.

    • @aisha2370
      @aisha2370 Před rokem +13

      By how quiet the daughter was around her mother and the mature calm way she spoke to the trooper, she has been through years of this.

    • @STORMY0O
      @STORMY0O Před rokem +5

      @@aisha2370 your right Aisha! I feel more for the daughter putting up with this embarrassment. This woman has no right to call herself Mother!

  • @shaynedumas4436
    @shaynedumas4436 Před rokem +6

    NST is my most favorite channel on CZcams 🤟🏻💯

  • @marjoriecorcora7617
    @marjoriecorcora7617 Před rokem +18

    I grew up with the best dad…but he was an alcoholic. It got the best of him when I was just 17. He was smart, had a good job, but he was drunk by bedtime..every night. I hate the smell of liquor. I saw what his drinking did to mum. My heart goes out to the daughter…don’t live with it like my family did. Get help, if not for her, do it for yourself.

    • @DinFL
      @DinFL Před rokem +5

      Hi. I know exactly what you mean. From a very young age, my childhood was surrounded by drunks. I have zero patience for people who choose to drive while drinking.

  • @mikeholmanlovesyou
    @mikeholmanlovesyou Před rokem +7

    NST making all these troopers internet stars.. Tpr Caviness might be a fan favorite after this video.

  • @Lisa3066
    @Lisa3066 Před rokem +12

    Well if she followed the laws and didn't drink and drive, she wouldn't ever go to jail! Personally I don't find it difficult to follow the law.

    • @DinFL
      @DinFL Před rokem

      Agreed! Drive and drink your ass goes to jail. Deal with it.

  • @fulmerjw
    @fulmerjw Před 10 měsíci +4

    Patience of Job, and a heart of Gold. God Bless you...

  • @horsefly4400
    @horsefly4400 Před rokem +8

    Alcohol has ruined too many good people, it's too bad there's no way prohibition would ever work again.

  • @MrLeglamp
    @MrLeglamp Před rokem +5

    For future reference when it's car vs tree, the tree always wins.

  • @wendyhill4272
    @wendyhill4272 Před rokem +8

    Very compassionate and forgiving. God Bless you. 1i understand your point of view. That is going above and beyond your scope of work. Stay Safe!

  • @emilydennie2712
    @emilydennie2712 Před rokem +23

    Wow. 20 minutes after a fatal accident, this must have been a tough one to respond to.

  • @JW-wy8te
    @JW-wy8te Před rokem +10

    Outstanding compassion from a ASP Trooper Caviness! Clearly this lady has had, is having, and may in the future have MH issues. ASP Trooper Shane Caviness has his duty tempered with a very big heart! Good for Trooper Caviness for developing into the type of person he is. Most Law Enforcement Officers have very little MH training. It has always been that way.

  • @kelly00000111111
    @kelly00000111111 Před rokem +9

    poor daughter, a mother shouldnt succept her children to this kind of crap

  • @drcbeartooths
    @drcbeartooths Před rokem +14

    Good for you, sir. Thank you for that difficult day - and doing your job well.

  • @melanieschmidt2173
    @melanieschmidt2173 Před rokem +27

    She sure demands his total attention and everyone else’s. Not getting enough attention is a pitiful reason to wreck your car.

  • @Dispatcher-kv2im
    @Dispatcher-kv2im Před rokem +11

    Keep conquering with your awesome work and this wonderful series! Can’t thank you enough for this series!⭐️❤️💙💛👍🇺🇸😊

  • @sharon7830
    @sharon7830 Před rokem +5

    Lord I don't see how some of these Officers put up with people like her he was really bein nice & she was rude and wouldn't listening to him

  • @jimsachtjen119
    @jimsachtjen119 Před rokem +4

    Everytime I go out and get drunk and run into a tree you take me to jail, you caint fool me none.

  • @oldguy3378
    @oldguy3378 Před rokem +5

    Gotta watch those trees, they are sneaky. If you get hammered, they jump in front of you!

  • @ginajackson-crawford3218
    @ginajackson-crawford3218 Před rokem +12

    Umm, I'm going need the witness information on the guy in the neon yellow shirt. 😊😂

    • @BobbieSmith46
      @BobbieSmith46 Před rokem +2

      Doesn't do a thing for me but I can appreciate that he is a well built unit lol.

  • @SAPCUpgradesSanAntonio
    @SAPCUpgradesSanAntonio Před rokem +12

    "im not stupid" Jury is still out on that one.I can see the poor woman has issues but she needs to continue her therapy. Liquor is not the answer.

  • @jlkenney11
    @jlkenney11 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Admire these Troopers 💙 never lose control of the scene they're at. Highly respected branch of law enforcement next to Game Wardens 💚

  • @DJPenguino51
    @DJPenguino51 Před rokem +4

    One thing you NEVER do is get lippy at the LEO when he's questioning you. That's a good way to get 10-15'd.

  • @mrsteadog1313
    @mrsteadog1313 Před rokem +5

    Thanks for reposting this so quick. She's sure a firecracker! I really needed a dose of ASP today.

  • @Sarakate601
    @Sarakate601 Před rokem +7

    Sounds like she’s really addicted to attention and the older she gets.. and/so the less age gets it.. the more she replaces it with other things.
    I also HATE when people say they’re in recovery when they’re clearly fcked up

  • @heyrod59
    @heyrod59 Před rokem +6

    The female driver has some deep seated issues, alcohol is one of them.......

  • @VAUSN
    @VAUSN Před rokem +6

    Trooper Caviness was empathetic as well as professional, but this woman was high maintenance. She couldn't give a simple answer to his question.

  • @littleflower3665
    @littleflower3665 Před rokem +4

    Sorry for commenting twice but I’m so triggered by this abusive woman. I wonder why her family would get in a car with this drunk woman and let her continue to drink while they were in the car. I know why because she gave them no choice. She’s abusive. Good for the cops for telling them it’s not okay what she’s doing to them. She needs a harsh reality check. She needs jail time. Her program is not working. Her telling that officer “you do it!” in regards to her putting her shoes on made me sick. A narcissist mother is hell. I pray this girl gets away from her and that her husband sets some strict boundaries. Coddling this woman is the worst thing that could happen to her and their family.

  • @garycrawford6237
    @garycrawford6237 Před rokem +3

    truly professional

  • @michaelluptonremixes6681
    @michaelluptonremixes6681 Před rokem +27

    This woman is all over the place. Her speech is slurred and the rapid mood swings give it away. She's plastered. She's pulling the senior citizen card to cover up her intoxication and she's exaggerating her story. The movements she's making are indicative of absolutely no severe back injuries. Jail. Period. She was a danger to the public as well as herself.

  • @caymanchristopher7014
    @caymanchristopher7014 Před rokem +16

    I feel sorry for the daughter.

  • @lancepoore3045
    @lancepoore3045 Před rokem +5

    7:53 I know she didn't say that..."I ain't goin back to jail". 🤣

  • @oldguy3378
    @oldguy3378 Před rokem +5

    A drunk. I hope the trees recover fully.

  • @superseal717
    @superseal717 Před rokem +7

    Many alcoholics have a certain look...the way their lips curl and pucker, the shape of their face is distorted. It's like your dentist tells you, "don't lose your teeth or your face will cave in." Of course not in all cases, but it seems I have little doubt, this woman can slam them down with the best of them. She is a well advanced case and most likely, been abusing alcohol for a VERY long time. Sad to see this addiction destroy so many lives...

  • @johnpierce1251
    @johnpierce1251 Před rokem +6

    I don’t think county pd looks very professional the troopers even covered in mud still represent stay safe out there asp

  • @PeggyLowman-ug6vo
    @PeggyLowman-ug6vo Před rokem +4

    That sweet daughter stroking her mothers back tells a lot. There’s is love there. I hope this woman gets help and works at her sobriety. She has so much to lose.

  • @jimsachtjen119
    @jimsachtjen119 Před rokem +3

    Great example for your daughter.

  • @cheyennetapiasmith9056
    @cheyennetapiasmith9056 Před rokem +4

    Thanks for the video! I look forward to your videos = recouping from surgery 😢
    What a kind trooper.

  • @gregmoyer8959
    @gregmoyer8959 Před rokem +2

    Daughter needs to put Mother in time out, mother is irresponsible and inconsiderate, no kid that age should have to be a part of this.

  • @ginadisbrow9324
    @ginadisbrow9324 Před rokem +6

    The audio was a little muddled, but did I understand her to say that "they"(?) had given her Versed (a sedative), and then (or at a different time?) took a "handful" of Gabapentin (anti-convulsant)?!! This medication has a very bad track record of horrid side effects as prescribed. I can only imagine how close she came to death or self-harm after a handful. Also, it has been prescribed for other conditions besides epilepsy and related illnesses. My mother was prescribed Gabapentin for pain of unknown origin and baseline dementia, and started having hallucinations. Further, she didn't have epilepsy or convulsions. This woman here is all over the place in her affect that seems to be embellished with more than just alcohol. And no, I'm not a medical professional, but have had years of experience with the caretaking of my mother, studying, etc. I hope, for her sake, that someone intervenes and gets her the help that she needs, especially separating her from that Gabapentin.

  • @barrybarry5803
    @barrybarry5803 Před rokem +2

    The Woman ~ "There but for the grace of god go i" ... The Daughter ~ "Has a serenity about her, deserving of a good life"

    • @BobbieSmith46
      @BobbieSmith46 Před rokem +1

      The daughter probably has years of practice diffusing the situation so she doesn't cop abuse.

  • @cyndyrn1
    @cyndyrn1 Před rokem +5

    Trooper did a great job. Can’t say much about county mounty there and his lack of training and the green shirt with an attitude. You could tell He was pissed He up showed him and He was mad. The trooper was helping country and didn’t even get a thank you in the end. All in all He could have taken control oh the scene since it started on the state Hwy first. Just saying. Thanks NST for another great video. Hope She gets the help she needs

  • @sheribrogden9247
    @sheribrogden9247 Před rokem +4

    Well, she's tasted her New Year Year celebrations early. Love the crying histrionic pity play. Daughter is one of the looky lous.

  • @pwillow61
    @pwillow61 Před 2 měsíci

    Trooper has the patience of a saint.

  • @carolemetters9480
    @carolemetters9480 Před rokem +5

    Oh my word, this is the first time that l have ever seen a State Trooper looking less than perfect in their uniform. 😮

    • @drcbeartooths
      @drcbeartooths Před rokem +6

      he came at speed, directly from a fatal accident. let's recognize the mud on his pants is small concern, and the impact on his humanity - from that and this - makes him much more professional than a spit shined uniform.

  • @sheshess.1595
    @sheshess.1595 Před rokem +4

    Maahnnnn...the men in this video were HOTTttt...🔥🔥😊

  • @dansnider960
    @dansnider960 Před rokem +8

    Troopers were excellent, Deputies need a lot of training

    • @user-peach408
      @user-peach408 Před rokem +1

      I believe the one deputy was in training.

  • @mwhe3111
    @mwhe3111 Před 11 měsíci +4

    Oh, my God...that poor daughter. She's been the parent all her life.

  • @littleflower3665
    @littleflower3665 Před rokem +6

    She is a full blown, selfish and disrespectful narcissist. Entitled, rude woman talking to that officer like that. Yelling at him for not paying attention to her. Unbelievable. She clearly has learned nothing in her program. She thinks she’s royalty or something. She said “ not paying me any attention” 30 times. That’s ridiculous. I feel sorry for her daughter growing up with her mom sucking up all the attention in every situation. I cannot believe she is doing this in front of her daughter. Wailing like a toddler after she just put that girl in danger. I’m sorry. I watch slot of dui videos and this lady takes the cake. I’m trying to be empathetic knowing she’s an alcoholic but come on! She’s beyond selfish and the attention thing makes her look like a damn baby. I’m just disgusted.

  • @TaylorTaylor-yi4qd
    @TaylorTaylor-yi4qd Před 5 měsíci

    Feel sorry for the daughter. Awesome job by the Trooper!!!

  • @_Boadicea_
    @_Boadicea_ Před 8 měsíci +1

    Oh!! Shane Caveness is the best. ❤️

  • @donsumner9268
    @donsumner9268 Před rokem +2

    Let's roll, everyone!

  • @YAHUAH870
    @YAHUAH870 Před rokem +1

    Dang bro I was watching last night and it disappeared.lol You have done vids where I live in Sheridan, in PB where I grew up, and now in WH where I went to school. That's a dangerous intersection right there and many have died in that very spot over the years. I know oh girls family and the guy she mentions at the beginning. Hope she gets lined out.

  • @aisha2370
    @aisha2370 Před rokem +3

    awaik we didn't see a camera shot of the front of the crashed vehicle? that would have been interesting.

  • @AmyLou402
    @AmyLou402 Před rokem +2

    Omg this woman LOOKS like me, WALKS like me, TALKS like me. We r dying laughing over here! But I’m not an alcoholic! 🤣🤣 And I don’t tear people w rudeness either! I’m kind, but also have a neurologist for balance issues. 🤭😂🤣😜

  • @majordendrocopos
    @majordendrocopos Před rokem +2

    These videos are just too sad. So many messed up people out there having an awful time with only a gloomy future in front of them.

  • @debranugent4602
    @debranugent4602 Před rokem +1

    Careful out there

  • @setharp
    @setharp Před rokem +1

    I grew up in rural TN but man... that area looks so depressing

  • @ge3186
    @ge3186 Před rokem +4

    Asp vs county????.. I sense theres some tension there..

    • @imnotsorry7371
      @imnotsorry7371 Před rokem +2

      Exactly what I was thinking. Especially when the trooper said “ You sure you want county to take over, you know how they treat us”

  • @kathywifall6844
    @kathywifall6844 Před rokem +5

    So sorry I confused NST with Texas Law Enforcement---had just watched one of their videos. I want to visit all those states-OK, Arkansas, NM, Louisiana, TX. I love the videos you all put out, and seeing green grass, trees budding makes me so envious since Minnesota is still buried in snow. I still say she needs total deliverance from demons. The whole family is affected, yet until she hits bottom or dies, kills someone if drinking, they will suffer.

  • @familyfirst3746
    @familyfirst3746 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Take her license for a few years . She should have been put in cuffs right away. Said thing for the family. She’s going to hurt somebody one day

  • @tony.schumacher
    @tony.schumacher Před rokem +1

    I hate to admit this, I watch most all of your videos (probably 95% of your videos, and actually watch 90% (factoring the time I FF) of them), but ONE of my favorite parts is JASPER!!!!! I think if it was not for Jasper, I am not sure if I would have watched as much as I do, it was the beginning and it was catchy. SORRY, just being honest! However, it has made me love your content, made me a subscriber, and look forward to all of your posts. Again, just being honest and real! I do love your content, and will continue to watch (cringe, even if you did not have Jasper) and THANK YOU for all you bring us!!!!

    • @NaturalStateTransparency
      @NaturalStateTransparency  Před rokem +3

      The music isn’t going anywhere. I just do t play it for anything involving a part 2. :)

    • @marjoriecorcora7617
      @marjoriecorcora7617 Před rokem +1

      @@NaturalStateTransparency your intro music is wicked good! I can’t not tap my feet when it plays…I even tried to Shazam it! 😂

    • @cheyennetapiasmith9056
      @cheyennetapiasmith9056 Před rokem

      ​@@marjoriecorcora7617
      Agreed! I love it!

  • @arielsegovia9283
    @arielsegovia9283 Před rokem +1

    I couldn’t even focus on the accident with that guy in the yellow in the back good lord 🤤🤤 I think I only finished the video to watch him lol 🤣💙💙💙💙

  • @willaknotts1298
    @willaknotts1298 Před rokem +1

    Drunks dont deserve anything extra in care by a cop after they drink and drive and cause mayhem because of their actions. Just take them to jail and lock them up til they are sober. F ing drunks are SELFISH!!!

  • @xcalibertrekker6693
    @xcalibertrekker6693 Před rokem

    Thanks for the vid. Anyone know the track title from the intro off hand id appreciate it? Thanks

  • @floydroberts9868
    @floydroberts9868 Před 6 měsíci

    Poor shane he is very patient until he's had enough

  • @chloecook4511
    @chloecook4511 Před rokem +3

    Did I hear correctly? She could have a alcohol level of .15 and if she passes the field sobriety tests, she doesn't get a DUI. Irrelevant since she didn't complete the fst.

    • @sheribrogden9247
      @sheribrogden9247 Před rokem

      He is arguing that BS like a Philadelphia lawyer.

    • @cozmo1266
      @cozmo1266 Před rokem +2

      He’s trying to appeal to her drunkenness,he’s lying so he can get thru this process and turn her over to the county boys 😏🤓

  • @mwhe3111
    @mwhe3111 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Hammered out of her skull but she can school him on proper etiquette.

  • @Ejdubb
    @Ejdubb Před rokem +1

    Trooper Caviness is overrrrrr her 😅

  • @nzcyclone
    @nzcyclone Před rokem +5

    I started watching this before it was taken down. Will try again :) I feel sorry for that lady. She has issues and I truly hope she can get the help and assistance she needs. My question is though. How did Trooper Caviness get his trousers so dirty. I applaud Trooper Caviness though. The lady tried to get agro and he shut her down just like that. Well done and well handled. Keep safe everyone :) I really appreciated the way that Trooper Caviness specially went and asked the husband and daughter if they were ok.

    • @user-peach408
      @user-peach408 Před rokem +1

      I asked the same thing and if you go to .50 in the beginning it is explained!!

    • @DarthKater311
      @DarthKater311 Před rokem +1

      @@paulinehutchings8366someone who was drunk driving and could have killed someone’s doesn’t get to talk about someone being “rude”

  • @momies77
    @momies77 Před rokem +4

    If she is drunk, why is the Police officer making her write out her accident statement? Never seen that before!

  • @Hd-yy6zh
    @Hd-yy6zh Před rokem +5

    My heart breaks
    Why why why does anyone start this stuff?

    • @marjoriecorcora7617
      @marjoriecorcora7617 Před rokem +4

      For most, it’s a coping mechanism. For others, it’s a learned behaviour..

  • @ryanbaker7404
    @ryanbaker7404 Před rokem +4

    Patience of a saint, lol. But what's bugging me is: what was Trooper Caviness involved in prior to this call that resulted in so much mud on his trousers from the knees down? It's the little things in life... EDIT: duh, it was from the fatal accident call prior.

    • @user-peach408
      @user-peach408 Před rokem

      Go to .50 at the beginning. I asked the same and at .50 it explains

  • @BobbieSmith46
    @BobbieSmith46 Před rokem +3

    Reading some of these comments is hilarious. So what if the trooper who had just come from a fatal car accident was apparently a bit rude to a drunk driver who managed to drive off the road and hit a tree and shift blame to anyone but herself. I lose sympathy when you put countless others in danger because of your idiocy.

  • @jacobpalmer2572
    @jacobpalmer2572 Před rokem +1

    Video is way better with the audio fixed.

  • @Hd-yy6zh
    @Hd-yy6zh Před rokem +1

    Yay my first live

  • @alirenegade2892
    @alirenegade2892 Před rokem

    this women is hell! sent her to jail

  • @ellenduebrynjulfsen3394
    @ellenduebrynjulfsen3394 Před rokem +3

    How can people like that feel sorry for them selves? I feel sorry for their family.

  • @taz5573
    @taz5573 Před rokem

    Some people just say too much and they don't know when to shut up yikes 😬

  • @elainekeane4164
    @elainekeane4164 Před 7 měsíci

    How do they stay calm?? That woman is crazy! That cop doesn't want to hear about ur trouble! How did u hit the tree.....

  • @lauriezayed8749
    @lauriezayed8749 Před 9 měsíci

    her poor daughters..

  • @brianpeterson9751
    @brianpeterson9751 Před rokem

    no respect from county for trooper caviness.we are going to tow it.from mini mouse in the green.i could figure it out right away.very easy to see!

  • @TaylorTaylor-yi4qd
    @TaylorTaylor-yi4qd Před 5 měsíci

    The county deputy needs some lesson from the Trooper about how to treat people. What a jerk!!!

  • @roysmith8002
    @roysmith8002 Před rokem

    Lesson one , get those other troopers out of her face and one set of instructions!

  • @larrysfarris
    @larrysfarris Před rokem

    @ 18:30 - She’s what we call a “hot mess”❗️🥂🍾😵. Did ya give her a ticket for littering? I mean after all, she said she threw her liquor bottle out into the woods. Seems like easy revenue for the county or state. 😉

  • @Jeff-S-Grimes
    @Jeff-S-Grimes Před rokem

    Ms Arkansas

  • @rolandlaviolette8451
    @rolandlaviolette8451 Před rokem

    Book er danno

  • @Bella-vt7ol
    @Bella-vt7ol Před rokem +1

    Good grief the cops pants when he got out of cruiser 😳

    • @drcbeartooths
      @drcbeartooths Před rokem +3

      he came at speed, directly from a fatal accident. let's recognize the mud on his pants is small concern, and the impact on his humanity - from that and this - makes him much more professional than a spit shined uniform.

  • @mariettarosser
    @mariettarosser Před rokem +1

    Who are all these looky lous ?

  • @fredburban8219
    @fredburban8219 Před rokem

    1st time i have ever seen an Arkansas Trooper with a dirty uniform. This must not been his 1st call today.

  • @lynnesimmons3112
    @lynnesimmons3112 Před rokem

    Jeez I understand it’s a motor vehicle accident, but it’s a relatively minor one, was going 126mph really prudent?

    • @NaturalStateTransparency
      @NaturalStateTransparency  Před rokem +3

      What if the caller totally exaggerated the facts to the 911 operator? How was it dispatched to E-16? Can you see why he went as hard as he did now? That was the information given to him.