SECOND AWAKENING TIER LIST - APRIL 2023 (Summoners War)

Sdílet
Vložit
  • čas přidán 14. 06. 2024
  • BASED ON COMMUNITY VOTES.
    Let's see how crazy you guys are :D
  • Hry

Komentáře • 204

  • @byronbrown5008
    @byronbrown5008 Před rokem +75

    Icaru was really supposed to be S tier.
    But he shows as triple S because you have to build 3!

  • @katyprarie
    @katyprarie Před rokem +110

    "You don't summon it unless you summon it" - Bagel, 2023

  • @LootyStuff
    @LootyStuff Před rokem +41

    I think most people that voted put more emphasis on PvE content, based on how this is looking. As much more of the game is in PvE, until you can clear all of it with high efficiency, the vast majority of players are going to be focused on that, therefore the units that are gonna be slightly higher than maybe they should be are there because they excel at that content.

  • @corvetto
    @corvetto Před rokem +20

    It’s probably a bit late now, but it would be interesting if you make a tier list before seeing the votes and compare them whenever you do your next tier list

  • @renanhonda8304
    @renanhonda8304 Před rokem +33

    Just a suggestion: Make videos showing the potential of the units you think that deserve a better rank.

    • @CM_MMA
      @CM_MMA Před rokem

      I'm sure there's a video out there from Bagel lol

    • @Aokimarcel
      @Aokimarcel Před rokem +2

      Your request was made real

    • @renanhonda8304
      @renanhonda8304 Před rokem +1

      @@Aokimarcel yep xD

  • @maruadermorningggg
    @maruadermorningggg Před rokem +19

    How is Gina not SSS, she's a rica but with way more in her kit lol

    • @Skilez
      @Skilez Před rokem +3

      everytime someone says rica is his dream mon or rating rica as top tier i always think about gina and how she is miles ahead of rica...which is kinda sad considering rica is one of the most iconic units in the game

    • @CrizDig0
      @CrizDig0 Před rokem

      Don’t underestimate that slow debuff. It’s OP.
      But yes Gina is pretty close considering she is element neutral.

    • @jaredcrabb
      @jaredcrabb Před 11 měsíci

      Gina isnt SSS cause shes a slug. I use Rica way more cause Rica is easier to make fast, WAY easier.

  • @JustALilFrogert
    @JustALilFrogert Před rokem +3

    Video idea ‼️
    Do a reclass justification video showcasing the mons you say should be in a different (specifically higher) tier. You could go over runes you’ve used/use and showcase their value in whatever area(s) you’ve used them and explain. You’ve helped myself and thousands upon thousands with hidden gems before and I’m sure everyone would appreciate that!

  • @jorgegarcia-yj6cn
    @jorgegarcia-yj6cn Před rokem +3

    The dark pixie is amazing, a SSS for me, i use it a lot in toah and save me a crap ton of times in the boss stages

  • @colerein1098
    @colerein1098 Před rokem +25

    Jewbagel. Lulu made it to an SWC! He also made Ariel a meme to the point he got a buff I think the sss is fair also lulu on free runes solos db10. I watch all your videos. I wanna see you use the wind inugami and some of your other advocated higher ranks in a video soon!

  • @yolololol
    @yolololol Před rokem +9

    Gina in S tier? she's a must have for F2P Toa Hell 30 stars

  • @brendenvanwinkle9524
    @brendenvanwinkle9524 Před rokem +2

    You should make a seperate teir list on how you put them at the end so we can see your point of view on them better.

  • @agentmurk29
    @agentmurk29 Před rokem +2

    So I graded this list by dividing it on 2 parts
    1. The obvious PVE units (like spectra), if it's a specific PvE Units like spectra and Naomi, I would grade them depending on how good they're in early game + how many PvE content they can be used + how good they are in that content compared to other 2A + added point if they can be used in pvp mainly siege (for example Sath, and some funny spectra content in rta)
    2. Mainly pvp unit (such as elucia, roid, etc) same thing, but I grade them on how strong they are in their respective pvp place (roid in siege, or elucia on both siege and rta, or Megan in arena offense), higher rank if it's worth to build more in siege, or how pressure they are in pvp (such as how relevant vigor even after his nerf), if they can be used in PvE and they do amazingly even compared to those that are "PvE" specific, then it's just high in rankings
    That's just how I mainly rank them, cause you have to separate pvp and PvE oriented units in these types of list, you cant compare a kro towards a roid, kro can easily make your rift beast gets triple S, or make one of the fastest gb12, while roid dominates siege offense even amongst 5* towers, anyway at the end of the day it doesn't really matter much lol

    • @jaredcrabb
      @jaredcrabb Před 11 měsíci

      I agree. Tier lists should focus on how many places they can be used and how good they are there, not how good they are in pvp only.

  • @waltersalek9918
    @waltersalek9918 Před rokem

    Well done and thanks!

  • @frenki8403
    @frenki8403 Před rokem

    Been using Iselia a lot in AO as I don't have chiwu/tiana yet, bernard/iselia/galleon/leah makes a really good cleave and she's still pretty consistent with her strip

  • @imuploading
    @imuploading Před rokem +17

    Gina should easily be SSS, she's a rica but with aoe strip and beneficial effect block.
    Raoq and thrain being above her, when she's more useable than both of them endgame, is wild to me.😂

    • @zaleww5824
      @zaleww5824 Před rokem +1

      Same for roid. He is crazy with good runes like if you really want to you can use him in all contents. He makes annoying siege defs, he is really good in offense for one man control and def break also deals huge damage, ı use him in arena offense with leo and rikey for super safe team if I don't have counters for things he also solo's kinkis with riley on field. If you are really dedicated you can eve use him in rta but needs crazy runes to get 35k hp with decent speed. Him being in the same tier as things like wind cat is funny

    • @room7066
      @room7066 Před rokem +3

      ​@@zaleww5824 he can solo kinki and Riley?

    • @marielcarey4288
      @marielcarey4288 Před rokem +4

      Agreed, Thrain is good, but better than Gina? Come on. His ai ruins him, Gina is a god though.

    • @Skilez
      @Skilez Před rokem

      @@marielcarey4288 both of them should be in the same tier. thrain for more control and dots and gina for the strip and the effects block. if you dont have a nora, you need gina if you want to field dots in pvp content.

  • @shanji0517
    @shanji0517 Před rokem

    Thanks for this!

  • @unscspartanx47
    @unscspartanx47 Před rokem

    you should do a follow up video to this where u do ur own personal tier list and compare it to the community one

  • @ivory9268
    @ivory9268 Před rokem +1

    Finally a 2A tier list, nice one

  • @Stannis452
    @Stannis452 Před rokem +1

    Slightly unrelated, but I really hope we get new 2A's soon, (hopefully Bounty Hunters among them)

  • @lordvectra7821
    @lordvectra7821 Před rokem +11

    Some things to note about your disagreements.
    Naomi (Wind Martial Cat): I graded her the same way I graded Kro (I think I did SS). Kro and her are basicaally siblings for how they're used. Only tremendous difference is he is DARK and she has a guild speed lead. They both can be used for all the same rift beasts with Fire being the only exception for her. I was actually suprised she wasn't up there with him. I personally also use her in GW/Siege offense.
    LuLu: While the Wind Totem has versatility, he excels at reliability, and he's SSS because people put a lot of emphasis on that. He cleanses and grants immunity on everything excepf for his first skill. I would be shocked if he wasn't SSS.
    Water Warbear: Assuming C is average, B sounds fair. He's useful, but if you never build him, you're not really missing out.
    Water Pixie: I would've put her at B but an A is too high imo. Not as reliable except in Rifts. Reason Naomi/Kro got so high was because their damage is more consistent and reliable. Naomi's s1 and s2 do great damage due to passive and Kro's s2 and s3 do a ton of damage. For Pixie, it's only on s3 that's random if you use it outside of PvE, and in PvE, she's competing with Naomi and Kro again.
    Now, for the ones I agree with or kinda agree with:
    Water Guarda: I would've made it A, but I can see an argument for S.
    Wind Inugami: Should've been at least A.
    Fire Werewolf/Water Vegabond/Wind High Elemental/Water Reaper: All should've been D or F. I put F for all of them lol.

    • @TheAce5399
      @TheAce5399 Před rokem +1

      lol water Garuda. I think you mean Griffon.
      Other than the mix up there I don't think wind inugami is that great tbh. I think the third skill is okay at best, mostly due to the fact that it does more damage as the enemy gets weaker. I would rather it be like Copper/Bulldozer where he nukes really well. He just feels weak compared to them while fitting into the same slot as them. Not to mention their skill 2s are both more useful than a single target strip. Wind Inugami feels similar to light warbear where the S3 should be more powerful than it is. The light warbear in particular suffers from bad coding which is "intentional" from what the devs say. It should be the opposite for Wind Inugami as well, it should do more damage when the enemy has more HP or possibly does more damage based on the difference in defense stats.
      edit: I didn't touch on wind Inugami's extra turn potential. I think that is great for a single target nuker, however I stand by the fact that he should be doing more damage as the HP is higher because he doesn't ignore def like copper/bulldozer.

    • @erblung1078
      @erblung1078 Před rokem +5

      Naomi is far weaker than Kro because her passive doesn't activate while the rift beast is up and immune to debuffs. So while the beast is in that state, Naomi cannot crit at all unless you build her for CR which runs contrary to how you would like to build her. Also, due to how her passive works, she typically works better with tankier mobs which again isn't how most dungeons apart from rift beasts work.
      Kro on the other hand, has (1) defence break (2) team up and (3) a build that is consistent whether or not the rift beast is up or down. These allow him to be used in R5 as well.
      Naomi at the end of the day is only a score chaser (and, not even a good one at that) for rift beasts. And as we all know, score doesn't matter unless you're trying to reach the leaderboards

    • @maninvisible7466
      @maninvisible7466 Před rokem

      @Erblung . only newbies/fresh account use Naomi , that why he rate her sss tier lmao . As a veteran , Im full runed 3 Kro instead of taking out Naomi from storage hahaha

    • @Skilez
      @Skilez Před rokem

      @@TheAce5399 honestly? i dont use copper any more because i am sick of copper traps...but ramahan with water totem or even better ritesh with maybe a panda on top is just insanely strong as a GW/siege off. it has pretty much anything and has no problem with a trap or sth. if you can field full wind its even stronger with its own spd lead! ramahan is really one of the sleeper units in this game...

    • @TheAce5399
      @TheAce5399 Před rokem +1

      @@Skilez I mean, im glad you can use them due to the units you have that pair well. I'm talking purely how the skills read. I can say that any mid tier unit gets better when you pair it with another unit, especially nat 5's. I know you can say the same thing about copper/bulldozer, but like I said they ignore defense too where Ramahan doesn't. He's probably better against tankier units in general with the whole doing more damage when their health gets lower, but if you're wanting to nuke with him to get the extra turn that doesn't make sense conceptually. I'm saying how his skills are now don't make me want to build him when I can use anything else. I think it would be better if his skill 2 stripped into def break and then his skill 3 went off higher HP scaling, not lower. I'm not trying to discount the unit still being able to do damage, because I'm sure he can still put out good damage. I think he could be even better if they tweaked very minor things about him. Like the light warbear taking away its HP but doing damage based on lost HP prior to the depletion. For whatever reason Com2Us want that skill to be used in that order which makes it utterly useless. Most bad 2A units come down to their skills being barely changed from their base form, like shannon, or being made into something really unique and interesting, but purposefully made bad so they can fix it later and pad out balance patches.

  • @renanhonda8304
    @renanhonda8304 Před rokem

    I was waiting for this one xD

  • @otavioduarte1047
    @otavioduarte1047 Před rokem

    it would be amazing if Sorin's 3s have oblivion, a video of you using it would be cool.

  • @ElazulJS
    @ElazulJS Před rokem +1

    Icaru should be a league of its own. You might need to build 3, but clearing more than 2 main dungeons with it is just op

  • @PuzoniCyclo
    @PuzoniCyclo Před rokem

    11:38, I've been playing the game since 2015 on this account (and 2014 on my old account) and at least on this account I have NEVER summoned the dark mystic witch. Nor have I summoned the light amazon. But on the other end of the spectrum I do have a dark pioneer so I can't complain too much :p

  • @pererau
    @pererau Před rokem +1

    I use Gina everywhere. She is SSS for me. I built 2 and can do very well with them in most places in the game

  • @jakeaceves9238
    @jakeaceves9238 Před rokem +5

    Miho felt after the crit rate fix xP that killed miho 100%, those horrible times in which 15% crit rate units were criting miho 10 times in a row 🤧

    • @joemama-kc7ez
      @joemama-kc7ez Před rokem +1

      what was the crit rate bug anyway?

    • @linkmax5374
      @linkmax5374 Před rokem +1

      ​@@joemama-kc7ez the crit rate is higher than it supposed to be
      And since miho can't be killed with crit she becomes one of the best units in the game

    • @joemama-kc7ez
      @joemama-kc7ez Před rokem

      @@linkmax5374 well yeah but do we know by how much

    • @jakeaceves9238
      @jakeaceves9238 Před rokem +3

      @@joemama-kc7ez its was a weird coding, but for example, if I remember correctly, 15% was actually 33% or so, and 92% was 99% something like that, but it was a coding mistake for years but none ever noticed Until miho came out and soloed support teams Who kept criting with not more than 20% crit rate

    • @RTK5357
      @RTK5357 Před rokem

      Oni's killed miho. A decent kaki can one shot her

  • @Mehitaka
    @Mehitaka Před 2 měsíci

    Is there an update on this, im curious on what tier will zinc be

  • @darkphase7799
    @darkphase7799 Před rokem

    Would love you to link these plus your version of these lists

  • @pakmin9368
    @pakmin9368 Před rokem

    Thank you 🎉🎉

  • @Play_time7
    @Play_time7 Před rokem +1

    I actually like the list, personally i would put icaru with the other pve units in s tier. The only pve units that deserves sss are kro and spectra because of how many places you can use them and how irreplacable they are. Some units are also low because they actually recuire runes/artifacts/skillups to shine and not everyone invests that much in these units (like fire fairy).
    Overall pretty good list still.

    • @echon6430
      @echon6430 Před rokem

      Gonna have to disagree with you. Kro is pretty replaceable. I only use him for beasts now. Icaru is 100% triple S. He makes doing Dragons, Necro, and PC super fast and easy. Those are some of the most important dungeons in the game. His value in beasts just can't match Icaru's. Now Spectra, I definitely agree with you, great unit.

    • @jaredcrabb
      @jaredcrabb Před 11 měsíci

      Raoq is definitely sss. And Id agree on Icaru being s. Try using him in steel fortress or pvp.

  • @Alphriel
    @Alphriel Před rokem

    Camaryn is awesome. At least A for sure. I use mine on turn 2 AO against Trianas and she hits 20k total on her third with only +200 attack.

  • @logangooch3237
    @logangooch3237 Před rokem

    The way I voted, was based on where you see/would use them

  • @HerrscherSirin
    @HerrscherSirin Před rokem

    one thing to be said..
    i do grade naomi and kro the same grade as they are basically siblings in terms of their skills and where you use them mostly.

    • @dudono1744
      @dudono1744 Před rokem

      Kro has def break and team up, making him better. I consider naomi mainly as a beginner's kro. It's easier to rune but less versatile (because wind) and a bit weaker.

  • @eddy796
    @eddy796 Před rokem

    I would actually rank all the cats atleast A or S for due to their sheer utility/ease of built. Four of them have huge free crit buffs and have various uses in PVP and Wind shines in PVE the most. The weakest would be dark but even then she’s a solid DD with a passive that haunted the meta for like 2 years. Hoping they buff the weaker 2As soon, shame to see only one or two buffed every half a year

  • @cloudvii7777
    @cloudvii7777 Před rokem

    Nicer to see all elements on 1 chart
    (But I guess there were too many nat4)

  • @beaulowe9713
    @beaulowe9713 Před rokem

    I just built my 3rd chacha and friends for g3 siege, she's atleast SS if not SSS when runed on triple revenge.

  • @dread4353
    @dread4353 Před rokem +1

    ramahan hits so hard with def/cd/def easily an s tier. khan and varus are really strong too

    • @Skilez
      @Skilez Před rokem +1

      varus would be crazy good but he is too easily countered. and not countered a little bit. he goes from literal god mode to whiny bitch with just a single def break on him. i want to use him but i just can't because every single team out there has a def break in it rendering him completely useless. its very sad. and he is so sexy too! art team did a crazy job with the griffon 2a

  • @kevinkchao8
    @kevinkchao8 Před rokem +3

    For those of you who put Naomi away after a while, she is a very strong and easy to rune candidate for one of your solo r5 damage dealers.

  • @HoferEric
    @HoferEric Před rokem

    I also don't most of the monsters are overall SSS. But if we're only talking about 2A monsters, the list feels fair.

  • @blackyj8853
    @blackyj8853 Před 10 měsíci

    Wish all 2A mobs were farmable, whether through sd/scenario update/ancient coin shop/guild shop

  • @timlinden698
    @timlinden698 Před rokem

    One wish: Could you tell us who got the most "I don't know's"? I'm courious whether people klick just anywhere if they don't use the unit, or who is the most unused unit at all

    • @jaredcrabb
      @jaredcrabb Před 11 měsíci

      I guarantee half that dont know just click somewhere random.

  • @marshlingsgaming179
    @marshlingsgaming179 Před rokem +1

    I wish moria would get more love, she can hit crazy high 70k plus

  • @GRAYLI3N
    @GRAYLI3N Před rokem

    I think Hiva (wind reaper) is better than a lot of the c and b tier units. Unfortunately lushen exists so it’s hard for any wind damage dealer to shine but hiva does his job really well and can do it on pretty mid runes. If he kills with skill 3 the cooldown refreshes, he gets additional turns if he kills. I think Hiva is definitely underrated here. Not SSS tier or anything but B would’ve been fair.

    • @jaredcrabb
      @jaredcrabb Před 11 měsíci

      Thats one reason I dont like tier lists, as wind units never get the credit thsy deserve. Naomi should be much higher too.

  • @darkphase7799
    @darkphase7799 Před rokem

    I must admit I am still too lazy to do most pvp stuff. I don't do RTA and most the time in the new guild battle thing I don't even change my teams and hope I win most the fights lol. Mind you my account is nearly 8 years old and I have 4 or 5 LD nat 5's (not from spending) and I often finish in the 1600 to 1700 range for arena.

  • @reaperandyel
    @reaperandyel Před rokem

    I would rate Lala and Friends higher tho, I mean they heal cleanse and strip.
    Lulu and Shushu got replaced by Riley but Lala can strip so ...

  • @hollowzaraki2203
    @hollowzaraki2203 Před rokem

    Wind Catto is a good unit for Solo R5, dont forget about that

  • @garethcooley1318
    @garethcooley1318 Před rokem

    I still have 3 LD 3* mons i haven't summoned. I've been playing since the beginning, but after about a year me and my ex broke up and I had to make another account 😢 But still literally haven't summoned Driller, Basalt or Baekdu. Before the last 2 years of anniversary summons. 😅

  • @Mathewrath
    @Mathewrath Před rokem +1

    Where's imp, imp champion, Serpent, Hellhound second awakenings? It's been long overdue to new 2As

  • @muhamadhadrizahalim8484

    How to get light griffon?

  • @xandercivinskas3884
    @xandercivinskas3884 Před rokem

    varus criminally underrated

  • @Socrates21stCentury
    @Socrates21stCentury Před rokem +1

    Dark Howl OP !!!

  • @TheWaterLynx
    @TheWaterLynx Před rokem

    Omg I so relate to the pain of not summoning an LD 3 star. I still don't have light griffon after one year of playing, and yet I have 2 Nat 5s! Apparently that griffon is rarer XD

  • @trixzter03
    @trixzter03 Před rokem

    2A Ramahan spotlight please!!!!

  • @frixo1254
    @frixo1254 Před rokem

    Vigor is underated for rta

  • @paradoxking64
    @paradoxking64 Před rokem

    I'm just saying Darion is pretty freaking crazy for keeping your party alive

  • @MohaASeck
    @MohaASeck Před rokem

    Vigor does deserve his SSS tier and i think Fire fairy is kinda strong in 4star spécial ligue she deserved better.

  • @ayahuok4340
    @ayahuok4340 Před rokem

    i would have put icaru on S but since you need three of them triple S seems accurate

  • @nonrev5014
    @nonrev5014 Před rokem

    Why do I miss every poll 😭😭😭

  • @run8scap80201
    @run8scap80201 Před rokem

    Com2us needs to bring out 2 different balance patch. One for 2a monsters and one for non 2a awaken etc. Because some of these 2a needs a desperate buff.

  • @EngelDasOmen
    @EngelDasOmen Před rokem

    Took me 3 years and almost 200 LDS to get my Gina just last month

  • @hannesmichallik
    @hannesmichallik Před rokem

    Can we talk about the Allen in the room? Didnt see the poll but if there was an actual F-Tier he needed to be in F-tier!

    • @Skilez
      @Skilez Před rokem

      very strange indeed...that means some people in the community used him and actually thought to themselves that he is usable!

  • @vonderbankanna805
    @vonderbankanna805 Před rokem

    2015 on and off and still no lushen is my equivalent of Gina

  • @Tawk_sick
    @Tawk_sick Před rokem

    Everyone is SLEEPING on Ramahan and Khan!

  • @funkyfox7996
    @funkyfox7996 Před rokem

    i shove him into pvp with nephthys. they go hard together

  • @ponglenis9273
    @ponglenis9273 Před rokem

    Mei is absolutely insane against skogul and similars. Make a deffbreak, either he dies or deals 0 damage and can be ignored for the rest of the battle. Don’t sleep on mei

  • @SilverTheHedgehog33
    @SilverTheHedgehog33 Před rokem

    This list makes sense, when I either see it from "can't play this game without this unit" (sss) to "do not even try this unit" (e). I think the sss units are all unavoidable in some type of content.

    • @jaredcrabb
      @jaredcrabb Před 11 měsíci

      I get by well without Vigor, Lulu, or Eshir and without using Spectra or Icaru. Definitely not cant play this game without, or even cant play effectively without. Id disagree on f, not e, its more do not try this unit unless you dont need anything else and have excess resources.

  • @heartless34
    @heartless34 Před rokem

    please show us the glory of the one you disagree

  • @blazeking5778
    @blazeking5778 Před rokem +1

    I feel like ALL 2A should have their secret dungeons. Seems a bit unfair those aren't completely guaranteed to everyone.

  • @ryldebolivar3841
    @ryldebolivar3841 Před rokem

    Hey Jewbagel, I would suggest that aside from our opinions, you would also compare your own Tier List to ours.

  • @warframebuilds6970
    @warframebuilds6970 Před rokem

    You left out linda who basically carries in toah.

  • @71ganz
    @71ganz Před rokem +3

    Icaru: revolutionized pve runs
    Used in most dungeon teams
    Bagel: Not sss tier...
    Also, no graph on the most wanted 2nd awakenings?

    • @funnystranger3380
      @funnystranger3380 Před rokem

      They not sss tier because they only used for like 1 thing.. dungeons fast clears. Sss is for units that is amazing everywhere

    • @aishiupee
      @aishiupee Před rokem

      @@funnystranger3380 so pve counts as one thing?? pc10 gb12 db12 nb12 all essence dungeons toan. i dont get your point.

    • @funnystranger3380
      @funnystranger3380 Před rokem

      @pyo no he a amazing pick for them, not the best team, but he fast and trustworthy.. that the problem. Of you going for best team. You don't use him in gaint, sf, pc, he tend to be only used for dragon and necro.. the team for gaints is easier to build and faster clear then water dogs in pc sf and gaints ...

    • @funnystranger3380
      @funnystranger3380 Před rokem

      @pyo I went from using them and then never touching them again.... that the issue... they are low ss or high s tier. But they not sss

    • @aishiupee
      @aishiupee Před rokem

      @@funnystranger3380 but its an option isnt it? like dot teams are a thing for giants but its not the best team. If you have tricaru built for one content, it can be used on others.

  • @iggytekula
    @iggytekula Před rokem

    Love team up mechanics

  • @Hyperdisk
    @Hyperdisk Před rokem

    I guess I'm picky when it comes to SSS tier. Vigor, Roaq, and Kro I can understand more or less. I put icaru in S tier.
    For me triple S means it can easily be used in nearly everything. From most your b10/b12 teams, rifts, and pvp. Sure icaru can potentially be used in some pvp stuff but not really. Unless you're using a weird gimmick, you're probably better off using something else.

  • @kurtcometa4818
    @kurtcometa4818 Před rokem

    I hope com2us gives us more 2A monsters

  • @George-pk5jw
    @George-pk5jw Před rokem

    Now tier list for 5 stars

  • @brandonnoonan1862
    @brandonnoonan1862 Před rokem

    Me here liking light elemental right now but a tier😬😬😬

  • @SamPhanie
    @SamPhanie Před rokem

    My boi Ramahan deserved more

  • @deathplayspoker6670
    @deathplayspoker6670 Před rokem +1

    You have hundreds of thousands of subscribers it's about time you realize people don't really care about the game as much as they care about you I recently watched a bunch of your videos and the moment you spoke about anything else you thought noone cared or wanted to hear your opinions on things not summoners war this is not true if you were to play a game and just talk or stream I can tell people would watch you have much more freedom to make content than you realize I think but anyways Love you bagel keep posting!

  • @StillGamingMaybeLatr
    @StillGamingMaybeLatr Před rokem

    I think this list more than any of the other ones showcases that a lot of newbie players are voting on these polls lol.

  • @SickHumanity666
    @SickHumanity666 Před rokem +2

    Gina not in SSS Tier is a Joke

  • @angelitabecerra
    @angelitabecerra Před rokem

    Miho is still very good in guild content on Offense. Definitely not defense anymore

  • @SilverDreamweaver
    @SilverDreamweaver Před 7 měsíci

    I feel like Pom is a lot better than people think. AoE stuns and def breaks is disgusting. Maybe I'm missing something, but he seems S tier at least, imo. At least for PvP content. I can see him in A or B for PvE.

  • @terrencemesser5182
    @terrencemesser5182 Před rokem

    I got dupes of those dark witches

  • @u-law8149
    @u-law8149 Před rokem

    Fire Vagas under rated

  • @kenjinasada6127
    @kenjinasada6127 Před rokem

    You can't rate them unless you actually built and used them.
    And about 70% of them I built and half of them I regret maxing out.

  • @reubiz12
    @reubiz12 Před rokem

    I personally feel insulted by camaryn( dark pixie) placement. I use her in a guild seige team with Tyrone an a robo for control in 4 star towers so she should be a tier higher at least

    • @dudono1744
      @dudono1744 Před rokem

      I plan to use her with leah for arena, but I need gemini.

  • @joer7240
    @joer7240 Před rokem

    I’m the only Hiva user in the world. Funny how often he gets banned in RTA, ‘cause people have no idea what I’m up to :)

  • @ivananyaegbu3435
    @ivananyaegbu3435 Před rokem +1

    I don't agree with Icaru being tripple S. Especially with the likes of Spectre and Roaq (who can argue Roaq probably isn't triple S) who are significantly easier to build. Not only do you need 3 Icaru, you also need decent tower level ups and runes. Where as spectre alone can be gotten very early on and you don't need crazy runes to make it work.
    Icaru is more like A to me, S if you are thinking of tricaru as one unit.

    • @aishiupee
      @aishiupee Před rokem

      yeah but building 3 just makes it a total 180. like, if you make 1 then you can use it on lumel maybe BUT, if you make 3, you can use it on pc10 db12 gb12 nb12 all essence dungeons and toan. also just a basic tricaru build is really easy to make. its pretty easy to get runes for him. its the same thing as getting runes for any other unit. you’re just making it less efficient if you think its hard getting runes if you’re trying to target the threshold for the normal deter guard/broken tricaru team.

    • @ivananyaegbu3435
      @ivananyaegbu3435 Před rokem

      ​@@aishiupee Oh no I definitely don't doubt their power but the cost to get there is really high. It's a personal thing but I just don't think they should be on the same rank as the ones that are fairly easy to build and that you only need to build one of where as tricaru you need to build 3.
      You also definitely need a decent balance of towers and runes to make it consistent which does take time as well. The reliance on external source of power is also a factor I consider. Take for example, a guardian lvl player in chat was wondering why his Tricaru team started failing. He suspected it was the new patch that unintentionally make it inconsistent but do you know what it was? It was because he had just left a guild. So for 24 hours his runs were no longer consistent because he lost that buff.
      Their power once you have everything you need is nothing to sneeze at but the requirements makes be believe they don't deserve to be in the same tier as Spectre and Kro.

    • @aishiupee
      @aishiupee Před rokem

      @@ivananyaegbu3435 their requirements are legit the lowest out of all of the meta speed teams…

    • @ivananyaegbu3435
      @ivananyaegbu3435 Před rokem +1

      ​@@aishiupee I agree on that but comparative to the units on the same tier, it's more effort. Let's take for example Sath and Tatu another meta dungeon comp w/ easier rune requirements imo. Besides nb12 they can clear everything you mentioned for tricaru including toah but they aren't SSS, right?
      The biggest thing for me is that it is Icarus as a single unit up there not tricaru. We can agree to disagree at this point.

  • @VelpaVid
    @VelpaVid Před rokem

    Tierlist I was waiting for em 👍🏼🫡 . After watching it .i edited. You need to make the tierlist that you think is best for you 👍🏼 overall. When you get the time ofc lol. Nat 5 List after patch too OvR . 👍🏼

  • @logand1726
    @logand1726 Před rokem +2

    Why are there so many S’s on these tier lists. It’s losing value. We need to go back to S,A,B,C,D

  • @prosvade1337
    @prosvade1337 Před rokem

    Can you please start using names for things? I listen to videos instead of watch them so it is rough when you say "him, her, them, this one, one of these" I have to re watch the video just to know what's going on.

  • @NemisisEnd
    @NemisisEnd Před 4 měsíci

    Welp.... i have 4 Dark Witches lol

  • @jaredcrabb
    @jaredcrabb Před 11 měsíci

    I so disagree with Shannon. Id say SSS. Same with Bernard and Belladeon.
    108 base spd, yeah, you cam shoehorn Kro into pvp.
    Or just dont feel like maxing crit, no need for crappy runes to get just 70% crit.
    Camaryn was either nerfed or her 3rd has a typo, she used to do 3 hits on 3rd.

  • @matheusmotaavelino
    @matheusmotaavelino Před rokem

    roid its a solid SSS, him and vigor should get their own tier.

  • @gabrielblox_br1395
    @gabrielblox_br1395 Před rokem

    I disagree with inugamis family being the best... I think they are a great one but dragon knight and the oracles ones are really more rated than the dogs

  • @CrimePaint
    @CrimePaint Před rokem

    Water pixie is definitely better than c tier. aoe defense break, slow and buff block. Wind witch too. aoe strip into def break.

    • @jaredcrabb
      @jaredcrabb Před 11 měsíci

      The problem with Silia is she is so goddamned slow.

  • @BlakKlaa2
    @BlakKlaa2 Před rokem

    GARUDAs?
    Where are ANY of them on this list?
    TEON is SSS, Konimiya is S or A.

    • @idrakei
      @idrakei Před rokem

      There is no 2a(second awaken) for Garuda yet

    • @aishiupee
      @aishiupee Před rokem

      when the hell were there garudas 😂

    • @BlakKlaa2
      @BlakKlaa2 Před rokem

      My bad.
      But there should be!!!

    • @BlakKlaa2
      @BlakKlaa2 Před rokem

      I have a massive
      stinking brain fart!

  • @MofoJ0nes
    @MofoJ0nes Před rokem

    If SSS mean’s definitely build then yea

  • @twixdog3316
    @twixdog3316 Před rokem +1

    2A drunken masters when...

    • @AMV_KINGDOM_mv
      @AMV_KINGDOM_mv Před rokem

      I really feel the gonna be op with the bump in stats and the ignore def punch

    • @twixdog3316
      @twixdog3316 Před rokem

      @@AMV_KINGDOM_mv yeah, but it doesn't have to be a huge increase in attack stat, it could just be Hp and base Speed to help their utility and survivability

    • @jaredcrabb
      @jaredcrabb Před 11 měsíci

      ​@@twixdog3316 Spd wont go up sadly.

  • @Sin-Watches-U
    @Sin-Watches-U Před rokem

    I'm not done with the whole video, but when you say you disagree with half the voted units why not also show your thoughts on the tier list/what you'd change, just to have a secondary perspective as well? Similarly maybe just mention if there's a difference between PvE and PvP since some units might be highly regarded by one side and not the other for completely different reasons. The tier lists otherwise are really helpful and give some ideas for units to build/work on especially for newer players