100hp Crosskart First Rip!! then almost blows up
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- čas přidán 20. 08. 2024
- In today's video I get my gsxr600 crosskart going. I install a firewall, rear brakes and hook up the accessories. We had a huge unexpected issue later..
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Zero apologies needed man, cmon dont be silly! Chains have been destroying cases for decades, and they will continue for decades to come. There are plenty of those engines around, parts shouldnt be even remotely an issue. Keep at it, we are all looking forward to seeing you bang through the gears on that thing
Uli said the same sort off thing plenty of jb weld that probz do it
A tensioner and a block guard/chain followers help sometimes
Well said.
@@1991enduro It happened to me a few times with some old Blasters. JB Weld never would work for me.
It was great right off the rip…but NEVER lasted. No matter how meticulous I was with pre-cleaning the case, it just wouldn’t hold.
Once I upgraded tensioners, and added a chain guard, I never had that problem again.
Why did this satisfy me too💯😂
Always buy or make a "case saver" which is designed to prevent the chain from whipping into the block like this. It's just a strip of steel that rides between the sprocket and the case. They work extremely well.
Sorry this happened, you will fix it and have it going again soon.
Consider some pusher bolts that support and hold the pillow block bearings,this will take most of the torque load off the main bolts and not allow them to shift, plus they will make it easier to tension the chain. Take care buddy 🙂👍
Mike! When are you doing an engine build on the xr212? Fyi you can get an 8 tooth 420 sprocket for that converter jackshaft.
Hi Mike! Good advice!
@Mikefestiva love your work man good to see you sharing your knowledge to a younger guy. Also on a side note can some one get vasley a 3 leaf clover or something kids got some tough luck
Cool to see Mike following him!
I actually had it happen to me...I literally found a piece of aluminum and shaped it to size with the dremel and welded it in....good luck !!! You'll get it.
90% chance the motor is fine, you shut it down pretty quick after it popped. worst case probably patch or replace the case, and give the engine a good rinse out if you're worried about metal debris in the oil. but id bet you'll be ok to just keep going with this engine. ive seen much worse continue to run for many years.
Exactly.. You can patch that hole with some JB weld and a beer can. I'm not joking, I've done it many times. It's not a structural piece. All you have to do is make sure that it doesn't leak oil.. I've also ordered these blocks before on Ebay--- I just bought the half block that I needed for $80.. and it still mated up with my block. but until then, just put some JB weld round the hole and press a beer can (or other sheet metal) over that hole and go ride it some more. Even if there's a piece of metal inside, it will likely just sit in the bottom... I'd patch that hole and send it... Get the JB Weld "original" -- not the "kwik" version. The original is stronger, but it takes 24 hours to set up.
Awww..... That was heartbreaking...
You'll get it, though. I have faith!
Don't understand why the likes are so low. Come on folks give this fellow a like. Vasily is providing great content. Thanks Vasily for sharing you'[re videos.
Stepping stone man, you’ll build it back better and you’ll remember the lesson it taught you. Your a bad ass fabricator, you will get it right.
Hey bro, don’t be sorry for having a minor technical mishap, we’ve all overlooked something at one point in our lives and anyone that owns bikes will tell you that they’ve had the same thing happen at least once in their history of riding.
You should be very proud of what you’ve achieved leading up to this point and highlighted something that other builders may overlook, always fit pillow block tensioners 👌🏻
this is how some of the best builders get so good. just keep going. it will be better in the end.
Yep. You win or you learn.
Been waiting on this vid like my kids waiting on the 25th 🤣🤣🤣
Lol. I live in Finland so no need to wait 25th.
This is one cool running Crosskart. Give it hell Vasily. This build is just wild. Nice and well built. .
Guess it’s time for a 1000cc engine then if this one is cracked
I don't see this as a problem, you're a great engineer and definitely no quitter.
This is actually a total win. This videos is gonna help so many people avoid the same problem. I know I would have made the same mistake.
This thing looks BAD ASS! Don't stress too much, sooner or later you'll get it fixed. Thanks for the content, I really like it!
Best thing is. All this be fixed before you go get groceries in it, smash them test rides, find the weaknesses. Been waiting for this vid 4 ages🤙🤙
Off to a rough start. Happens to us all. You'll get it figured out. Takes courage to share the failures sir. Much respect on that.
Sounds absolutely awesome!!!!...That sound alone is enough to keep you going through the repair. Don't think it will be as bad as you fear. Looking forward to hearing it rip again.
Yeah dude 600cc pulling hard is no joke. I've seen several videos of t rear axles in cross karts and they are quite complex. so keep going this project is awesome.
keep your head up and remember you’re learning and also doing more then the average joe ever would. Small story I just tore a 95 ninja 500R down to the frame to replace it with a newer motor/wire harness.. I was stressed over small situations but in the end I was successful and very proud of myself and also got a perfectly running motorcycle for under $400 and some elbow grease.
You got this!
I learned ten times as much from my failures than I did from my successes. I also always found a way to develop a new business that capitalized on addressing the weak link.
Beautiful build man. Sorry to see that set back, but I'm sure you've already figured out a solution. I built a similarly sized cart in the 90's and used an engine i got for real cheap, all in parts. I put it together and it ran, so i built a simple frame, with double wishbone front suspension, but just a straight rear axle. The engine was a modified Yamaha 570 Exciter motor. It did amazing smoke shows and donuts, but it was difficult to accelerate around corners with no diff.
I used flange mount bearings and my jack-shaft never moved. Sold it to a guy who claimed it did the quarter mile in 11.7 at 120 mph.
So many people have written their bikes off the same way, you and i are lucky we can tig weld... putting a guard in front of the front sprocket to prevent this in future and the area around put some thick impact plastic covering the area behind the sprocket and a metal guard to prevent the chain going through the same location, Yamaha R6's are famous for having this issue when the chain goes. JB weld..? NO!!!! Tig it, you know how to. Getting into splitting the cases is annoying but a skill worth learning! Not being scared of that is how i get cheap bikes! Great build.. and remember these bumps in the road make us stronger and wiser! might as well get it painted while the engines out right? Take care dude x
What a bummer dude! I have been looking forward to putting that bad boy through its paces. Hopefully your bottom end is not trashed. Good luck on the repairs and looking forward to more videos.
Nice to see young talent at work, instead of beeing on instagram or beeing sassy all day, keep it goi'g man you got something beautiful
Well I’m on a lockdown for Christmas, so there’s a strong chance I’ll be going back and rewatching the entire series on this, and maybe some other builds
Trial and error. That's what you are about. Making things better and the best way is the only way. Keep up the good work.
Oh Dude....That's just so sad after all that work. I am impressed with your mindset of let's fix it and get it done! I know we will see this back better then ever!
That's badass buggy. Can't wait to see all the bugs worked out. You are an inspiration. I am working on my own cross kart. It's getting a 500 cc Polaris snowmobile engine.
Ohhh that hurts my soul when hearing that engine almost blow up..., that's ok man keep it up stay positive...🤗🤗🤗🤘🤘🤘
Keep up the good work its amazing seen a young kid with so much knowledge and handy really means alot this days .
Were here supporting you brother! Sorry about your set back, get what you need and more, it will be better than you expected. Get that armour of God on and get back to work. Great job on the build so far. Honestly. Freakin sick.
God bless you man.
You have a loyal subscriber here so try not to worry too much and do what you always do best.. enterprise, innovate, build, entertain and persevere! You got it👍
Man crap happens unfortunately, but I know you will pull though it and fix it. Sick build btw I can't wait to see the finished product after all the bugs are worked out. I'm rooting for ya!
Agree 100%. Vasiliy rocks. This is a bump in the road. And a big learning opportunity. Can't wait to see the final product running on the dirt.
“It felt good so i got in it” we all would have done the same buddy cant wait to see you rip this thing
Impressive that you actually bled the cooling system. So many other builders fill it up, hop on and take it out with air pockets and all. Then they wonder why they boil over and overheat.
This is my most favourite build in this channel! i hope you can still fix everything.
Damn man, this has to suck. There is no doubt this will not stop you from making this thing awesome. Keep going man!
You could put push bolts on the pillow blocks. It works the same way as chain tensioners on dirt bikes. You can tension the chain then lock the pillow blocks down, then tighten the jam nut on the push bolts.
If case is aluminum, should be able to just weld it. Did that too. Granted, it was just a 6mm screw hole but you're smart, you'll figure it out. For the pillow blocks, I did the exact same setup and had the sliding issue too, except in my jackshaft. Weld a coupler nut to the frame in front of the pillow blocks with enough clearance for the matching bolt head, and use that to tighten the chain and keep your axle from sliding. Fab on!
Make sure your master link retaining clip is facing the right way. I couldn't tell from the video but make sure the closed side is leading while driving forward. Open side trailing. I've been there before. Don't lose hope man and keep up the awesome work!
It happens to the best of us dude, don't let it get you down. You can say you have done it now and have a story to tell your buddies. Try and get it welded up is the best bet I say and get something put there to help prevent it punching through if you haven't tried it yet. But i can't wait to see it all fixed up and ripping again.
What a bummer. That is an awesome machine you built. Hope you can get it fixed.
Rip it apart & fix it! It may be more involved than youre used to but ive been there & had to power through aswell. You got this dude!
if it is only the engine case that is bad, you can use aluminium brazing rod to fix it. works and looks alot beter then jb wield and you only neeed a simple torch to use it.
That's a lot harder to do on cast aluminum though.. I'm not saying that it's impossible, but you really have to know what you're doing. It's not like brazing clean billet aluminum.. No one is gonna see it under that chain guard. I'd just JB Weld it with a piece of beer can and then weld up a "case saver" guard so it doesn't happen again.
@@calholli i think we are thinking of 2 different things. Aluminium brazing is the same thing no mater what materials you are working with: Steel, aluminum, cast aluminium, magnesium, iron, stainless steel, gold, silver, The brazing rods dont care what material they are used on. it is just like gluing things together, just with aluminum insted of glue/jb wield and so on. and as long as you can use a butane torch everybody can learn how to use aluminium brazing rods. Here is a video of the stuff i mean. check it out and try it sometime. you can get the brazing rods from home depo, harber freight, ebay, amazon, wish, just about everywhere thay sell tools.
czcams.com/video/fKIKsDfRAcs/video.html
I feel your pain. WE run those engines in carts just like that at Glamis sand dunes. and you need some serious chain tension. Put a piece of steel between that front sprocket and the case. But some serious stuff ho hold that back axle from pulling foreword. Look at a motorcycle how the rear axle is mounted. make it even stronger. Chain tensioner would not hurt too. Some serious horsepower and torque there. So keep that in mind.
That was still bad ass! I would of jumped on it too! Can't wait to see it all fixed and ready to rip! Have a great Christmas and a happy healthy New Year brother! You'll get all the bugs squared away & will be ripping in no time....👍🏻🙋🏻♂️☃️🎄🔥🏁
This is my type of build man, I'll watch the whole thing
Hey man don't stress to much. To avoid venting the block again. Drop the front sprocket 1 tooth and mic the clearance between the chain and block. Get some 1/4 or 3/8" steel plate. Cut it wide enough to protrude out pass the block about 1/2inch or more "if you have the horizontal clearance. Heat your steal plating up and run it through a pipe bender of some kind with flat wheels. Curve it to fit between the block and chain. Weld some good sized nuts to it and bolt the plating on between the block n chain. If you can get the clearance close enough the chain won't be able to kink up or slap the block anymore. Then you only have to worry about rear sprockets getting destroyed "which are usually way cheaper and easier to fix"
Don’t apologize for breakage. Out of your control. You got this and we will be here when you get it sorted.
Not really.
@@SNELLERIZED ok
old school trick. seal it with soda can and jb weld. I put 30k milkes on a 74cb750 after chain broke and put much larger hole in the case.
Ahh no man that's some bad luck 😬😬 can't wait to see it ripping 👌 keep it up man don't become disheartened 💪💪
That's a real bummer Bro! Hope it's not too major. It's a shitty deal all the same! Thanks for all the great content over the last year.
Rich.
Don't apologize to us. I feel real bad for you, lots of work put into this build and then to have this happen. I know you will get it fixed and it will be better than ever.
All I gotta say as a professional motorcycle mechanic is wow props for building a half decent cart and you're piece that broke is now in your crankcase when you throw a chain you typically put a hole in the case and push the broke piece into the case wich is why an eBay r6s motor was put into an 09 r6 monday lol
I have thrown a motorcycle chain at high rpm before. Busted the engine case and my heart.
You come a long way buddy nice work keep them coming
Don't apologize. Shit happens with one off builds. I've cracked cases on corporate manufactured stuff, dirt bikes and 4 wheelers. Keep the videos coming man, you build some neat stuff.
The cart looks good man, can't wait to see this thing rip again
There is a chain guard for the front sprocket that stops the chain from doubling up and just shits it out when it breaks....it like a metal loop that goes directly over the rollers made out of heavy flat stock
I predicted this when I saw the title, but no worries you'll get it going again! I know you will, now on to my mediocre 400ex build, gotta make sure I put that chain guard case saver on.
Part of modifying and building is breaking things. Keep up the good work
A beautiful thing to consider. You can fix it and help everyone at the same time. 🏅
Damn sorry that happened hope you get it taken care of fast so you can enjoy your ride. Have a blessed week
i know how this feels . . . you get that sucking feeling in your guts . . .dont despair man , we learn A LOT from your videos, you will be up and running in n o time !
Peace from South-Africa.
Need a way to lock that rear into place. You’ll be alright!! Keep up the good work man!!
Yeah. It was just under built. You gotta put gussets everywhere and extra reinforcements.
That will be no problem for you Vasily.Sorry that it happened,but you were right there at the property,and not 50 miles from home at least.Merry Christmas,and a much Happier new year.
You can weld up the case. Just take it apart and clean out the chunks.
The pillow blocks need to go imo. That chinesium barely handles a 212. Use some large sealed roller bearings with clips and build up a housing for them.
The shoulder harness tabs need to be beefed up too. You’re asking a lot for some 1/8” steel and your life depends on it.
Pretty common occurrence when a chain breaks or comes off on the GSXR. Couple suggestions, DO NOT jb weld that hole, weld it correctly even if you can’t find the piece just get a similar composition piece of aluminum and weld it. It’s soaked with oil though so pre heat it a lot before trying to weld to burn off the oil imbedded in the metal. Also that clutch pushrod and seal both need replaced as they are both damaged from the chain(pushrod bent, seal oblonged).
Ahh man that sucks.. Good thing you didn't keep running it like that. You can tell that thing is going to be a ripper for sure! Can't wait to see more, Merry Christmas!
Hopefully someone online or close by to you has a good donor motor for you. Test and tune. Happens to everyone. I lost an air line on my car and basically wrecked the fender a week after I finished the build. Live and learn.
Build a nice little case saver that’ll bolt in between the chain and case.
Tough break, you'll recover like you always do.
Bummer man! But sadly mishaps like this are part of the game. You’ll be on the road before you know it!!!
Oh crap that stinks!! Up until that part I couldn't help but think how amazing that cross kart looks and how talented you are for such a young guy! You'll get to the bottom of it! I know you will!
Dude what a build the thing is f***ing sick and im 100% sure it will be on the road in no time 👊🏼❤💪🏼
I did the exact same thing to a 1975 Honda XL 250. I feel for you Man
Same thing happened on a Honda 200R three wheeler, and we fixed it with JB Weld and a beer can. It lasted for years after that. lol
Sorry about that brother! You'll get it squared away. Looking forward to the next rip.
Awww man damn that sucks It sounded and looks awesome I'm sure you will get it fixed up 👍✌️
Ya win some, and ya lose some.....I've learned the hard way, fixing things just gives you a chance to do it better the second time around
Live and learn and progress ! Add a case protector and chain tensioner .
That cart is something really nice Clark.
Sorry that happened. No doubt in my mind, you'll get it sorted.
No problem man. Keep on doing what you are doing. At least we will have more good videos to watch.
Hey man this is James just get you a piece of pipe and weld it from the driveshaft to the frame. Other than that man it's awesome 👌👏. Great job dude.
Good attempt... maybe verify the size and bracing from the donor vehicle and chain sizes.. that will give you a start on what the minimum is required then X2+ the strength when the application changes drastically.. i.e 1 power wheel to 2 power wheels.... just a thought, but overall good job!
I believe I saw a bike with a C or U shaped "chain guide" that goes around the front sprocket leaving just a bit of space from the chain to the guide, and where you have to remove the guide to remove the chain i think, you might want to think about making some thing like that to protect the engine...
Great idea!
Don't be upsaid, wish you all the best.
Did a test drive.....list is longer! But fun to watch this built and waiting for the next video. Go make it sound great again. :)
Definitely a Homer Simpson, "D'oh!" moment when that piece of chain let loose.....yikes!
I'd weld it up properly and maybe even make a steel guard there to stop it happening again 👍🏻 looks sick tho and you know it's gonna go when you get it dialled 👌🏻👌🏻
Trial and error and learning that's what it's all about... great job kart is sick
Dude, that thing is RAD!!!!
Keep up the good work man. Awesome build.
That sucks bud, good luck on the repair and keep putting out these videos
Worst thing try mounting the pillow blocks on a angle so when it's tight it will have to break your welds for it to move
Best thing would be to put a second bar right above your pillow blocks and get longer bolts--- so they have to go through the frame, then the pillow block, and then through the second frame.
Hey bro... You can patch that hole with some JB weld and a beer can. I'm not joking, I've done it many times. It's not a structural piece. All you have to do is make sure that it doesn't leak oil.. I've also ordered these blocks before on Ebay--- I just bought the half block that I needed for $80.. and it still mated up with my block. but until then, just put some JB weld round the hole and press a beer can (or other sheet metal) over that hole and go ride it some more. Even if there's a piece of metal inside, it will likely just sit in the bottom... I'd patch that hole and send it... Get the JB Weld "original" -- not the "kwik" version. The original is stronger, but it takes 24 hours to set up.
Man!!!!!that's terrible....you still did a great job dude
I knew it was the chain right when it went. There are something called a case saver that is a steel plate that wraps around the the chain in front of the front sprocket. With your welding skills I think you can fix that I have seen you weld aluminum. you got this
is is aluminum.....FYI