Ranking Nana characters based on how much I hate them (or love them)
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- čas přidán 18. 07. 2023
- I'm ranking the characters from Ai Yazawa's anime and manga, Nana based on my hate or love of them. I kind of have gripes about most people in the series, but some are better than others. This is completely my opinion and some of it is kind of illogical, but I thought it would be fun to talk about anyways!
I want to know your rankings too!
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Literally Yasu is the best. If I got reincarnated in NANA I’d stick to him haha
Yasu Best Guy x2
Yasu is a liar. He's not a real lawyer.
@@midoriorio7806 lawyers are paid to lie though lol
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Reira is really a horrible human being and a gr00mer but I feel the same way as you do. Her singing, her voice, her appearance, her vulnerability, I am just fascinated by her and kinda cant help but like her even though I feel terrible about it.
pretty privilege
Ughhhh me too. Tbh until she said her age i thought she was 16/17
This really couldn't have better summed up how I feel about her. As a teen myself I absolutely think her actions are horrible, however I find it hard to truly hate her because of how much I deeply relate to her about stuff like being half white half Asian.
Wasnt she like 20 ?
And he was 17/ 18 ? I find kinda odd but called it gr00ming...
Yasu and Ren both lived in the same institution, but Yasu was adopted in the end. Ren ran away.
ah, thank you!! I thought they were both in an orphanage or foster house but I couldn't remember the exact circumstances.
I mean every character being a little bit hateable makes it more realistic. This is how actual people like
I honestly respect your opinions, but I would’ve put Sachiko in the would punch category. Because she very clearly knew that Shoji had a girlfriend, she still pursued a relationship with him. And it’s like, it’s my belief, but the participants of cheater which is the side piece, knowing the significant other is in a relationship is as guilty as the cheater whom is in a relationship. And that was a seriously shady thing to do.
Ah nah since shoji and sachiko stuck together, they can both get killed together. I HATE THEM BOTH RAHHHH. They are both pos!
I think that Nana and Ren are absolutely intended to be Sid and Nancy, They have a poster in their bedroom at the old apartment reading SID & NANCY. And while this is a bit of a reach, Nancy was known to wear a leopard print motif fairly often, and Nanas Iconic fur coat is also Leopard print
Yeah Takumi is really ruthless and avoids confronting his own emotions which makes him selfish and only care about what he wants : his freedom , i even think that all this game of " remaining in control " is just en excuse for him to remain free of any emotional responsability, like you said he seems like a good dad to his children which is good, he is doing his child responsability right, but i also think that Nana needed someone like Takumi, someone that can hurt her and keep her " chill and restrained" because I feel like she'd do the same as what she did with Shoji if Takumi actually put emotional care in her. Which is completly wrong and fucked up but it's so realistic at the same time.
Idk I just don't like him because.... like all NANA characters this dude is Oh So Familiar and I'm sure that says things about me lmao
I feel the character of Nana K has sadistic undertones. She seems to be emotionally over with persons who puts too much love and adoration for her even if she loves when she gets attention. She always falls in love with emotionally unavailable people based on her past relationships. It gives her the thrill and dopamine rush.
Bro she was raped
I love reira just because of her voice and looks too tbh, so completely valid in my books 😭😭
Yeah, I recently realized that I kinda hate everything about Shoji lol. Not only the cheating but he was also really weirdly controlling and unnecessarily mean towards Hachi from the start and honestly I don't really see anything of value in him, neither as a person nor as a character lol. I either disliked him or gave no fucks about him.. never was interested to see him on screen.
Takumi i.e. at least had interesting dynamics with others, despite of being a pos
you really explained everything like I would, I'm so happy to see other nana fans feel the same way about these characters (I especially love when you said at the start that you hate most of the characters to some degree bc that's so real) the only character that for me feels REALLY out if place is June, I literally can't stand her and I would put her 100% in the "would punch" tier, like apart from being a really shit friend (I literally cannot understand why she was friend with nana in the first place since all she did was to complain and judge her) but a detail that I unfortunately don't see many people talk about is the fact that SHE REMAINED FRIEND WITH SHOJI AFTER HE CHEATED ON HER, LEFT HER ON THE STREETS OF A CITY SHE HAS NEVER BEEN IN AND TREATED HER SO BADLY like she literally couldn't care less, she never cared about nana and I honestly think the only reason why she was friend with her was because it made her feel better about herself and that's disgusting.
This was so entertaining to watch! And your points were so well made
Thank you that’s so nice of you to say!
The thing is even though people say Ren is like Sid Vicious, in actuality, Ren doesn't like Sid and isn't a fan of him. It's in one of the character books where Ai Yazawa mentioned that Ren doesn't like Sid at all.
Yeah Ren and Nana are not really anything like Sid and Nancy except with looks. While I find nana and ren a little toxic at times, they are not anywhere near Sid and Nancy levels. Also Ren had real talent where Sid did not (sorry not sorry 😂) one thing I remember about Nancy is Johnny Rotten talks about her having piss-stained tights, and that image has never left me…
Why would there be a large print of sid and nancy in ren/nanas old apartment if he wasn't a fan like that? You think nana purchased this kind of poster for their place? I started reading the manga this past week and I had to find out what this little detail of their apt was referencing
@@Unfortu.nartely Don't know who purchased it but the official character book states that Ren may listen to the songs of Sex Pistol but he's not a fan of Sid Vicious. Ren in actuality doesn't like Sid at all but it's an irony that fans tend to compare him with Sid all the time.
@@Unfortu.nartely So my speculation is that probably Nana's the one who bought that poster. I don't think Ren is the type of person to buy stuff related to things he doesn't like.
Thinking back shoji was the og anime "nise guy " 😂
Takumi is a def a bad guy i still like 😂
can’t stand reira literally disgusted me everytime she came up
Same
i was hoping she would just die lmfao i hope the author kills her off if they ever decide to continue the manga 🤞
i share the exact same thing about trapnest and reira as you. I love Olivia Lufkin's voice and the trapnest songs so much. I just feel like there is a unique sound with them
I don’t really like hachi at all (aside from the times I find her funny) and would probably put her in the meh category. But the one thing that really bothers me about her is that she knows what getting cheated on feels like yet didn’t feel the need to practice any caution to make sure she didn’t cause that pain on the people she cares for. I get the situation with nobu was complicated and she may have had good intentions but she wasn’t careful at all and then wonders why things ended up going to shit. Like why? If she were at least a bit more mature some things could’ve been avoided.
Also about Junko, I think she tries to be a good friend but falls short. Among other more miner things, her not telling hachi that she was being cheated on was pretty toxic. I get she was friends with both parties and didn’t want hachi to be sad when she found out, but in what world does it make sense to sit on the sidelines while one of your friends is cheating on the other and not make it clear that they’re in the wrong? How did she feel it was ok to let him heart Hachi behind her back when it’s obvious she would’ve found out eventually. I don’t feel like a good friend would do that
I agrée completely about Jun. I don’t understand why Junko stayed friends with Hachi because she pretty much always seemed annoyed by her? About Hachi, yeah she does a lot wrong in this series I think. I think maybe she isn’t the brightest person and she is sort of irresponsible in quite a few ways. She is still my favorite but I seriously do want to shake her sometimes, I know she is fictional but I still feel sorry for her sometimes.
@@AislingBlack I definitely get where you’re coming from and yeah, I feel sorry for her too sometimes but in a way I feel like she brought quite a few of these issues onto her self and I can’t help but facepalm
I actually related to Junko a lot watching this. I have a friend like Hachi and her terrible decisions also lined up with Hachi's decisions. I'd try to be there for her and look out like a mom almost, but it was insufferable at times to see the same terrible decisions being made constantly. Junko looked like she had resentment towards Hachi at some point and I felt the same towards my friend too. But just something about Hachi and my friend, draws us to them. Whether it be their true personality or the way we just vibe well, sometimes it's not easy to just get up and leave. There is a redeeming quality about this person that we love and want to keep the friendship.
I actually really dislike Misato. She keeps mooching off of Blast's kindness and it's so messed up how she uses Nana's half sister's (that Nana didn't even know existed) name as a fake name. I know she admits it was creepy, but I honestly don't care. She's just annoying and creepy.
Okay, i happen to love Takumi. Don't know why but i was obsessed with him growing up. I know he does some very messed up things but i always thought he weirdly enough was the most reliable character in the show (just knew how to solve almost any problem; everyone would turn to him when things would go wrong).
I know it's a popular theory that he got back with Nana just to hurt Nobu but I don't think he cared about Nobu all that much. For him, it was about becoming a father he never had. Later in the manga, you can see how insecure he is about that part of his life. In his own way, i think he cares about making people around him happy.
This is a really interesting take on Takumi, and I do kind of agree. I think he did end up being a good father, which makes me very happy. I like to think maybe after Trapnest fell apart that maybe he changed for the better.
he grapes hachi though
he wasn’t reliable for anyone’s sake except for his own. the decisions he made regarding hachi’s pregnancy were solely for his benefit and to avoid a public scandal. and like the person above said, he r*ped hachi. twice. and he cheats on her in the manga. he’s a horrible person through and through.
@@spacevvitch7327literally
nana's fan girl is so cute tho 😭😭 (idk how to pronounce her name)
She’s a weirdo
Misato!
Incredible how our ranking is different, but it's interesting to hear other perspective about the characters.
I agree it's so fun to hear others thoughts on these great characters!!
The title of this video made me laugh, so thank you for that! 😂
I couldn't even finish the anime when i first watched this almost a decade ago. I just didn't like any of the characters. I also had different outlooks in life.
But decided to rewatch it recently and i guess what i didnt like in the past i now perceived as "real". Like, people are not all good or all bad. I can appreciate the stories more now whereas back then i was annoyed by the melodrama and immaturity of the characters.
The music made it a memorable anime, tho! I liked listening to Anna and Olivia's music. I also got indirectly introduced to Shiina Ringo and Tokyo Jihen, which became part of my all time favorite artist/band. (Because i confused Shiina's voice to belong to Anna in the Sakuran trailer 😅)
I LOVE OLIVIA LUFKIN SM!! i love spiders spins its my favorite song ❤️❤️
yea idk but for me the entire blast members are the realest one especially Yasu, jun and kyosuke are too bc they DONT play around with ppl's feelings like Hachi. i just hate hachi bc she's so naive and too coward to learn how to appreciate and grown some ballz. i think bc of what she did, the lives of the ppl around her became worse. i feel sorry for Nana bc she needed Hachi.
As much as I like Hachi, I do think she is sort of naive and at times selfish. I like to think that Hachi grew up a little in the time between the story and the ending we have, but who knows. Yasu is the real deal :P
I can’t believe you didn’t put Junko on would punch for what she did to Nana
I absolutely agree with Shin, that's how I'm seeing it
Some relatively important characters are missing, Yasu's ex and their band manager. I kind of like Takumi because I see him as a plot device to bring more dramas and emotions into the story.
Yeah, I remembered the band manager after I published this, (whoops) but I totally forgot that Yasu dated someone after Reira and before Miu, I had to look it up because it was wiped from my mind apparently.
Also yes, Takumi is necessary. Even though I don't care for him I guess I can admit that lol
Takumi is Hachi demon lord in human skin. She predicted sachicko, she brought her demon lord into existence. What else can she do?
me and you have the same rating LOLL, I would prob put Junko in like not love but yeah basically the same!!!
as much as i hate takumi, i learned he was based off of buck-tick's lead singer atsushi sakurai (rest in peace ;_;) and i didn't hate him as much. AS much. I'd still tackle him if he came anywhere near Hachi
It's not confirmed!! We don't like that comparison…
@@mariawillam7404 don't like the comparison? why?
@@ProxyNumber001 Well, there's a simple reason. We, fans, like Sakurai Atsushi and we don't think he's a jerk like Takumi. Sakurai Atsushi appeared to be a professional and lovely person, even though we didn't know him personally. It's just kinda offensive, but I get that they have some similarities :)
Accurate
Thank you :D
Hachi was my favorite character. But when she chose to marry takumi I just couldn’t stand her anymore
I'm clicking and readying myself to slander Takumi with my best friends.
WELCOME
I hate takumi becquse of his obsession of controling eveyone and eveything ...even his band mates, he has a big ego and to make matters worse he's rich and talented...he thinks he's unstoppable
There should be a takumi tier down at the fucking bottom
That is inspired !!! I totally should have done that
17:55 i strongly disagree, Hachiko didnt deserve to be cheated on, however she did messed up things to Shoji, she ignored him all the time for Nana, and okay i understand she wanted to put her new friend first but i find it deeply wrong. You can't just come to the same city as your boyfriend and leave him for a random girl you met simply because he wanted you to be independant in a city like Tokyo. I think Shoji was a good boyfriend throughout the whole anime except when he cheated. But he isnt a bad guy imo, Shoji was trying to see Hachi any moment he could and Hachi just ignored him and was having her childish fun, which again, both were wrong and not wrong at the same time. Shoji was wrong for not confronting Hachi about their relationship and was lazy and got conforted by Sachiko (which isn't a bad person either, except when she slept with Shoji, but her catching feels for Shoji isnt wrong, it happens a lot, yeah it's painful but that if it was still a secret it would have been okay. But I get some people had the urge to confess because she couldn't hold anything anymore). Hachi was a kind girlfriend and very supportive and would do acts of service to please, just like Shoji was kind to her but also annoyed by her immaturity, he's the kind of guy who would prefer a "good girl" type of person, that doesn't go party a lot, and is more chill and serious, unlike Hachiko who is kinda the opposite (she is still a good girl with good intentions and all, but lack seriousness, it's fine, she will grow i hope). Like I wonder how would people react if Hachi met Takumi/ Nobu earlier and was ghosted by Shoji for weeks, yknow ? I haven't read the manga so, idk maybe Shoji cheats on Sachiko later too lol ? Idk, but my point shortly, I think this anime is very well made, the characters are realistic I find, some characters are contradictory of themselves just like real people are.
These are really good points. I think with Shouji for me it’s mostly, never mentioning he had a girlfriend to Sachiko. Like that’s not the first thing you have to tell a person, but him and Sachiko were getting close… and she really didn’t know he had a girlfriend for sure. Now on the other hand maybe she never asked and was just hoping it would all go away. Also Shouji at times did treat Hachi OK, but I still don’t understand why he made her wait a year to come to Tokyo. I think Shouji probably didn’t cheat on Sachiko but I’ve seen other people say they think he would. I do think Hachi was kind of ignoring him, while reading your comment I definitely thought about that aspect of the situation more. But I really just think Shouji and Hachi weren’t a good match. I also wonder if Hachi feels bad for ditching Shouji and then later in the series she gets together with Takumi she mostly just hangs out at the apartment they share for that reason. I know she still sees BLAST but it is waaaay less often. Thank you for your comment it made me cut Shouji a little slack. Interestingly my problem is less with how Shouji treated Hachi and more with his treatment of Sachiko, but I didn’t mention this because I made a whole video about Sachiko, but honestly the way he strung both of them along was crazy. But I often forget the period he is seeing them both is only like a week or two (I think?) I know realistically Hachi really fits in the Bad person still like tier: she does a lot of bad things, but right or wrong I forgive a lot of it. (I’m very biased 🫠)
I'm used to be scared to date because my childhood crush was Takumi haha and somehow i always end up with skinny dudes with long hair I'm cautions
I married a tall skinny dude who used to have long black hair so… I feel you 😆
I hate Takumi too, along with Shoji and Sachiko. And i really love Nana and Hachi ♡
I don't think that Reira is disgusting, she's just broken and lost...
so, you like tops… hit me up…
Hated Hachi and Takumi
You kinda have weird taste but alright
where is your logic guys? Reira meets a married man, she's so stupid and scolds the marriage. Nana is dating a married man oh no Nana is so poor and sweet. but just accept the fact that Nana understood what she was doing and Reira had been manipulating Takumi since her school days.
and also Nana just wanted love, no matter from whom, while Reira wanted love precisely from Takumi
I agree with what you are saying, but I guess for me the difference is that Married dude was a lot older than Hachi who was like 16-17 , and Reira and Takumi are the same age. I agree I don't think Hachi is an angel by any means. She was old enough to kind of understand what she was doing, but I still think too young to be dating a man in his late twenties (just my opinion) anyways. I do think that Hachi was more of a victim in this situation even if she knew it was wrong because teenagers really can't consent to adults in my opinion. I don't know if I said this, but I actually do feel sorry for Reira. Because for her, it's always been Takumi. And I don't really blame her for still loving Takumi even after he is married. But the difference is Hachi was a teenager when she hurt a marriage, reira was an adult. I think Reira does have some issues with arrested development though...I don't hate her for chasing a married Takumi, I just think it wasn't especially kind. I actually kind of wish Reira and Takumi would have ended up together... I don't know if I mentioned this but Reira is just a sad damaged character for me. And I totally understand that the flings Takumi had maybe she didn't feel threatened by, but she did feel threatened by Hachi and the marriage. Is Hachi a perfect person or completely innocent in her affair with the married man, no, not at all. But I do cut her a bit more slack because she was younger when it happened. I agree though maybe people including myself are a bit too hard on Reira. @@aikosha6538
how do you see a highschool girl getting groomed and think "oh wow thats her fault" 🤯
REIRA ISNT BAD PERSON!!!
She felt lonely, thats why she bought Shin. The age of consent in Japan is 13 (thats digusting and i dont support it, but Reira didnt break the law.) I also dont support her actions, but shes just very lonely person.
REIRA WAS THE ONLY PERSON WHO CARED ABOUT REN AND WANTED TO HELP HIM.
She just fall in love w Shin and Shin fall w her. Shes just not mentally stable and no one wants to help her. She didnt hurt Shin and never forced him to do anything
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The age of consent thing isn't even true it's a misconception based on a misreading of the law. It ranges between 16-18 across all of Japan. But legalist arguments aside grooming is grooming whether you do it for pleasure or because you feel hollow it's despicable.
Technically no, the age of consent was is 13 but in Tokyo prefecture it is 18. While the country age of consent was 13, recently changed to 16, each prefecture has their own age of consent.
Personally I find their relationship pretty messed up, but I do enjoy reading about it because imo he sees her as woman in his life that he never really had, a caring mother figure. Kind of messed up but it's pretty interesting asa dinamic.
fictional or not, imagine defending groomers LMAO could not be me
i don't care how lonely i am, i would never groom a fucking kid 💀💀💀 because thats what he is, A KID!!! he even looks young, and reira looks way older. YUCK.