Mr Mistoffelees Part 1 | Cats the Musical
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Lyrics:
You ought to ask Mr. Mistoffelees
The original conjuring cat
The greatest magicians have something to learn
From Mr. Mistoffelees's conjuring turn
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Based on T. S. Eliot’s Old Possum’s Book of Practical Cats, the show is set amongst a larger- than-life junkyard playground and is alive with our favourite feline characters including Rum Tum Tugger, Mr. Mistoffelees, Macavity, Jennyanydots, Old Deuteronomy, Grizabella and Skimbleshanks.
The Jellicle Cats come out to play on one special night of the year - the night of the Jellicle Ball. One by one they tell their stories for the amusement of Old Deuteronomy, their wise and benevolent leader, who must choose one of the Cats to ascend to The Heaviside Layer and be reborn into a whole new Jellicle life. - Hudba
this is why Mr Mistoffelees was so shy in the movie, he didn't have his confident Rum Tum Tugger to tell how awesome he actually was every day
drakodra you’re so right-
Aw that made me smile
Rum Tum Tugger is Mistoffelees' hype man.
You can't picture that Tugger x Misto ship works for Derulo and Laurie
I feel like they were like “well it says he’s shy, so that’s his personality”
Mistoffelees: *so anyways, i started blasting*
THIS IS THE FUNNIEST THING EVER, YOU MADE MY NIGHT
🤣🤣🤣😂
Also Mistoffelees: Cross Paws... Please don't make me do this, Munk. I'm begging you, I'm begging you !
@@ChristHoon .
Also, munkustrap: my job here is done.
Misto: but you didn't do anything!
@@ilikericepudding5575 Munk: Nah, I just started your song. But you're right, Quaxo. Actually, I asked Victoria did the rest. lol
Fun fact: they had to hire a ballet dancer with years of experience to play Mr Mistoffellees cause of how tricky his dance is. His dance is the hardest in the entire musical.
In the opposite side, Laurie Davidson may not good at dancing, because he is not a trained dancer, his audition dance was "awful" and "brazen". But has good magic talents and tricks.
@@ChristHoon dude shut up you comment on everything talking about how this musical was better then the movie and you try justifying it with your personal bias for the people in the movie and not the movie itself.
@@zylafox4731 Look, I'm understand that not everyone likes the movie version, but you did it just hate. You just can't reconcile that the movie version had a better storytelling than the musical version.
@@ChristHoon the musical is supposed to have no plot in the first place
@@zylafox4731 And THAT'S the problem. This is why the movie version had a better storyline for "why this song is next to this" than the dumpster fire you enjoy.
I just wanted a really great storytelling to come back and you’re just killing their mood. Sounds to me like you’re one of the bad fans, you should just be happy with what you got!
all those girls thirsting over Rum Tum Tugger when all he's doing is fawning over his boyfriend
My personal headcanon: Mistoffeles and Tugger are a couple, but Tugger likes to tease the females because it is funny to him, and Mistoffeles calls him a 'terrible bore' in the RTT song because he doesn't want any of the girls to fawn over his man.
@@HaleyDrake123 or he calls him a terrible bore because he knows despite his fronting he won't do anything for the ladies
@@theshockinglyeloquentdog9945 Also a valid point.
@@HaleyDrake123 you know what's not valid? how they turned him super strait in the movie
@@theshockinglyeloquentdog9945 I would've been for the homosexuality in the movie. Mainly because they're cats, and cats don't seem to care that much about sexual preferences LOL.
Mr. Mistoffelees: **breathes**
Rum tum tugger: *_"please step on me"_*
although knowing RTT he'll ask to step on Misto afterward
@@howareyoumoreofaclownthanme _pretty much_
IM WHEEEZING 😂😂
this made me fucking snort. oh my god
I live for the idea that Tugger is a bit of a switch in his relationship with Misto.
Tugger: Mistoffelees is so shy and mysterious
Mistoffelees: *comes in and starts blowin shit up left n right*
Aaron Martano I was confused about that too.
I mean, considering that Tugger literally came in ripping fabric, kicked a ball over Misto's head, flirted with basically every lady cat, thrusted enough to make Michael Jackson jealous- Compared to that, anyone would be 'shy and mysterious'.
Or he's seen another side of Misto. The intense homosexual subtext side, if you will.
Kodoku Pierrot Oh my god... 🤣
Aaron Martano 😂😂
Lmao this is too funny lol
me: :(
mistoffelees: Presto!~
me: :)
Sebby The Sailor Me: XD
me: life ain't too heck
:)
Also Mistoffelees: Cross Paws... please don't make me do this, Munk. I'm begging you, I'm begging you !
@@ChristHoon dude you don't have to bring the movie into everything it's fine if you like it but not everyone does
Mistoffelees in the movie: omg stahp im nervous af like seriously
Mistoffelees in the play: *unbridled magician/trickster god energy*
in the movie: flirts awkwardly with the girl that he crush, he's so desperate to draw the girl's attention to him trying to prove himself to her
in the play: gay icon who covers a rock man with rainbows, spends 5 minutes showing off instead of trying to save rock man's dad's bloody life
@@ChristHoon 1. His dance is interpretive: he is doing magic tricks to prove tuggers words, which is why they are cheering and acting amazed. 2. Deut is also his dad (it's canon, Jacob Brent has stated so, making Tugger his brother) and all those tricks are to gain the tribes confidence that he CAN bring back his dad.
@@gentlesoul2188 But he blows random shit up. Also spends 5 minutes showing off which serves the empty glamour and spectacle.
@@gentlesoul2188 If an ASSHOLE like YOU is wondering why the 2019 film version of Mr. Mistoffelees (played by Laurie Davidson) doesn't sound as confident as his stage and 1998 film counterparts, it's because this version of Mr. Mistoffelees is a magician-in-training who is very meek and insecure about his magical abilities and lacks confidence in his skills, but it isn't until this song that he finally gains his confidence and rescues Old Deut. According to what happened behind the scenes: Laurie had to prepare choreography for his Mistoffelees audition, but because he is not a trained dancer, his audition dance was "awful" and "brazen". However, this is what caught Tom Hooper's attention and influenced what the movie character would become.
@@gentlesoul2188 it’s not canon at all. It’s a popular fan theory and just because the actor thinks it is, doesn’t mean anything. Many stage performers thought that Tugger and Misto were lovers and that’s also just a head canon. Plus, Tugger is a Mainecoon and Misto a Tuxedo cat so that doesn’t make much sense
Nobody:
Mr Mistoffelees: **descends from the sky and shoots lazers from his fingers**
MM: So anyway, I started blasting
We were robbed in the movie
Hell yeah
Andrew Younger
excuse me, Rum Tum Tugger is definitely *not* nobody lol
Mr. Mistoffelees IS the Senate!
Mr. Mistoffelees in the movie: insecure, flirts awkwardly with Victoria
Mr. Mistoffelees in the musical: gay icon who covers everyone with rainbows and blows random shit up
Movie version: has character arc that serves the plot.
Stage version: Spends 5 minutes showing off instead of trying to save someones bloody life which serves the empty glamour and spectacle.
@@mousinge the latter is more relatable tbh
@@thermovale3245 Feel like I'm gonna sound overly sensitive here but are you saying that overtly gay people are all self absorbed and superficial or have I wildly misunderstood you?
@@mousinge no I was just joking about showing off instead of being productive lol
@@thermovale3245 Ok, phew - I felt like I was overreacting or missing the point, but I couldn't tell how.
local cat cannot stop talking about how amazing his boyfriend is
On the other side, a beautiful pure white newcomer cat asks her nervous and insecure boyfriend try to bring their leader back
@@ChristHoon I've been seeing your replies get around and apologies to Sophia because this will end up on her notfs but every other one has an already long thread.
That's nice, you ship this thing, and that's okay. You'd like to bring your input into each other's ship discussion, that's valid.
You are valid with your headcannons and ships and all, but you don't necessarily need to reply to every RTT and MM ship comment? And those ship comments existing in the first place can be contradictory but you can do the same and just make a comment about how you prefer the relationship and character in the movie than the musical, and hope someone sees it to form a discussion like the rest of us.
It's okay to enjoy MM's shy and insecurities and Victoria going "you go baby!" But you don't have to bring it up against every other ship, copy and pasting your argument. Which in itself is pretty exhausting if I were you.
@@blazerheata6479 Thank you for understand
@@ChristHoon no problem, it just got a bit stiffy when I kept seeing your pfp pop up lol. I thought it was a yellow woman with a hair bun but it was bowser all along XD
Truuuuuuuuu that i love the dynamic between these two, rum tum tugger being the confident rough, tough kind who knows his magical boyfriend needs motivation to achieve his true potential
*the Rum Tum Tugger is a (bi)curious cat*
I choked on my coffee after reading this lmaooo
*the Rum Tum Tugger doesn't care for a cuddle (unless it's from Misto)*
A true (b)icon
No wonder he's not sure about Bomba. Lol
He's the Frank n Furter of cats.😁
Mistoffolees saying "PRESTO" in such a soft, hushed voice makes me smile and giggle every time
Ora Wolfgram 2:24
Me too
His voice is so beautiful it makes me smile and I feel like I was gonna faint cause he's so amazing he's my favorite cat
We watched this in my choir class and I only heard the presto when I got home and was listening to this song bc it's great and I had a fangirl moment worthy of Rum Tums fangirls
Me too. It's so CUTE
Everyone: oh no all is lost
Rum Tum Tugger: YO WE GOT THIS DUDE WHO CAN DO LITERAL MAGIC MAYBE WE SHOULD, I dunno, ASK HIM?
2019 version:
Munk: we're lost, and we can't use magic to bring Old Deut back...
Victoria: Yes we can... yes we can bring Old Deut back. Well, my boyfriend Mistoffelees is a magician, and I'm believe in him even he's nervous and insecure.
Chris Hoon 😬
@@trucetruce335 I'm enjoy that 2019 version's shipping.... very, very much
@@ChristHoon It's weird to think that was last year. Feels like it came out at some point in 2020.
@@trucetruce335 If an ASSHOLE like YOU is wondering why the 2019 film version of Mr. Mistoffelees (played by Laurie Davidson) doesn't sound as confident as his stage and 1998 film counterparts, it's because this version of Mr. Mistoffelees is a magician-in-training who is very meek and insecure about his magical abilities and lacks confidence in his skills, but it isn't until this song that he finally gains his confidence and rescues Old Deut. According to what happened behind the scenes: Laurie had to prepare choreography for his Mistoffelees audition, but because he is not a trained dancer, his audition dance was "awful" and "brazen". However, this is what caught Tom Hooper's attention and influenced what the movie character would become.
Mr. Mistoffelees: *super calm, very polite, a little excited* "presto!"
Also Mr. Mistoffelees: "POWAH! UNLIMITED POWAH!"
On the other side, Mr. Mistoffelees is super nervous, very insecure, a lot of flirts awkwardly moments with Victoria cause he has crush on her. He was so desperate to draw Victoria’s attention to him trying to prove himself to her
@@awilli182 Is there any problems for being straight in the movie? I've see NO problems. The only abomination was the fans of the CATS franchise.
@@ChristHoon
Sigh...🙄
No, there's nothing wrong with being straight just as there is nothing wrong with being gay, bi, or ace either.
However, it becomes an issue when you take from the original source material and then twist it to fit whatever requirements that would make the film be deemed "safe" to the point where it doesn't make any lick of sense.
@@awilli182 well... they just want an "all-new all different" story
@@ChristHoon
Nope!
That doesn't work!
If you wanted to make something that is "all new", you would take from the original source material and then put your own, unique spin on it.
(For example, Pixar's 'A Bug's Life' is based of the Japanese film 'The 7 Samurai'.)
Here, they copied all the songs, made the characters look like nightmare fuel, added some painfully unnecessary comic relief, and added a "villan" in order to add conflict, all of which didn't work.
Same issue with Disney's 'The Lion King' (2019). If you've already watched the original 1994 movie, don't even bother with the new one. 90% of the original was just copied word for word only now with dull, ugly looking CGI.
Everyone: How to find Old Deuteronomy...
Tugger: Sounds like the perfect time to start talking bout my boyfriend
Well, If Tugger can brag about his boyfriend and get his dad back that's like a double win right there. And I think that Tugger would do that.
To be fair, he says Mister Mistoffelees can help find OD
@@orchid7380 the remake doesn't exist (?
Amelie Lahayne r e m a k e . This musical is the original. It, therefore, sets the actual parameters. I’m not saying that they ARE gay in this (though I do ship it), but the movie remake and this movie are NOT AT ALL the same, and I feel kind of... I dunno... weird feeling... that you can’t see that right off the bat. I’m sorry if I’m sounding offensive, but I will stand by this for any amount of time before I take a step towards the remake. (And I’m not saying the remake is bad; I just take all my lore from the musical and not the movie.)
@@orchid7380 I'm sorry. What? You keep cutting out after 2019. lol. Let the people ship it. It's cute
I love the irony of how Rum Tum Tugger’s song is just about how self centered he is and then the following song is just him singing about how great and respectable his dad is and after that one he proceeds to sing about how awesome his boyfriend is for seven minutes.
HAHAGSA LOVE HIM
lol😂
*mr mistoffelees @ rum tum tugger:* 😐🙄🤦♂️
*rum tum tugger @ mr mistoffelees:* 😍🥺🥰
It's a ploy, don't believe it. They love each other. Mistoffelees has to keep up his act of being alone and aloof, but oh, Tugger cares for a cuddle with this one ;)
MISTOFFELLEES SEMPAI!!!! 😍😍😍😍
Don't forget how Mr Mistoffelees pulled out a giant rainbow from a hat.
The way "RTT is a terrible bore" was delivered makes it look more like couple teasing than Misto actually being bored by Tugger.
You can't picture that Tugger x Misto ship works for Derulo and Laurie
things i love about this:
-the soft ~presto~
-rtt copying mistoffelees dance moves
-the rainbow scarf he pulls out of the cup
-the way john partridge says 'phenomenal'
Then what things you like about the 2019 movie?
@@ChristHoon Absoloutely nothing.
@@anotheranimeweebfellas4582 I'm NOT asking a piece of Shit like you!
things I love about the 2019 movie:
- Mistoffelees and Victoria's romance
- good story plot
- Macavity's goal for kidnapped Old Deut
- Tugger didn't throw a "sexy magic party" and didn't asks Mistoffelees spends 5 minutes showing off
@@ChristHoon i dont like the 2019 movie, thats why im commenting on the 98 version about why i like the 98 version :]
Mistoffelees’s “presto” is honestly precious
Also Mistoffelees: Cross Paws... please don't make me do this, Munk. I'm begging you, I'm begging you !
@@ChristHoon You dont need to comment this and that other comment of you calling people assholes on every comment you see about it- jesus christ we get it you love cats 2019 and cant respect any opinions other than your own, nobody cares.
@@sheepobly YOU don't care! What I did was offended to protect a story like this because in many ways the movie version is misunderstood and underrated. There are lot of good things about the movie version, and you should understand and like that they still problem solved in a situation.
And guess what? It's one if the reasons that changed the perspective of this musical, and what made me stand up for it when the movie version was brought up being ridiculed.
@@sheepobly What a so called "Hero" you are! You think your spakes can appeals me to stop ? Too bad it won't work!
@@ChristHoon Is problem seriously enough to make a good movie to you? We get it youre a cishet white man sitting in your parents basement, problem solving is the bare miniumum, they completely ruined grizabellas character and so many other things.
Me at first: wtf is this musical?? who would like something like that??? it's weird af
Me now: watching Cats vids at 1 am
Victória Moraes me rn actually
I’m literally watching this at 1am rn
3 am actually
Ah can relate.....
Victória Moraes My seven year old self would have related to your comment. I thought this was a wacky, stupid concept... before watching the 1998 recording/film and experiencing the musical live. I'm 18 now, and there isn't a week that goes by where i'm not humming a song from this musical or thinking about the characters, lol.
Cats was the musical that pretty much converted me into a theatre nerd and it holds a special place in my heart
"i know what'll help after old deuteronomy was kidnapped! *A NUMBER ABOUT HOW MUCH I LOVE MY BOYFRIEND!"*
i mean... if tugger can brag about his boyfriend AND bring his dad back at the same time? he most definitely will do that
The likes were at 666 and I'm not gonna change it
@@eviem.6903 over 1k now
I mean...... it worked
THEY ARE BROTHERS!!!!!!
Nobody:
Literally No one:
Not a Single living soul:
Mister Mistoffelees : P r e s t o
ViaMobileOfficial I read this right at that very moment😂
We love him
The presto is so cute
Lol that's my favorite line
All the other cats cheering him on: Oh well, I never was there ever a cat so clever as magical Mr. Mistofellees
Historians: there is definitely a heterosexual explanation for this
Cats the movie be like-
Personality I've always seen their relationship as cool uncle/nephew. Like Rum Tum Tugger wants Mistofelees to be more confident since both of them belong to the "I'm the younger brother club" so he goes like 'dude you're awesome now go out and get them!'
Pepe fetora part of his name is Tugger.
R L as said by jacob brent , "i wasnt really going for gay, maybe it was the 20ft long, glittering rainbow scarf that gave it away..."
hahahah, I always shipped them. knew I couldn't be the only one.
If they take out his little “presto” I’m suing
I have bad news, he's apparently anxious and insecure as fuck in the movie and I don't get it. let him be a confident boy!!
@@haiiro_mori as much as i was a fan of the original, i appreciate both interpretations!!! i love both anxious and confident boy!!! (however i may be biased, since i do have a soft spot for shy characters)
But… Rum Tum Tugger just said he was shy, right?
I think you must sue hollywood...
Yeah you're gonna need to sue
Me: well, I just don't see why people stereotype musicals as gay.
Mr Mistoffelees: 3:38
@Ryan W I dont know why but I actually like this, maybe I'm a pole smoker and I dont even know it
I like it and I'm not gay...
I think.
@WildKamots Micheal Grubber is gay???? My life has meaning now
he said we love pride
WildKamots
Opening gay guy? Like gotse? Or that dude who accidentally broke a jar inside his booty on camera then started pulling glass out? Those are the only “opening gay guys” I’m aware of
Nobody at all:
Whomst ever made Cats (2019), putting on their clown shoes: "I love this heterosexual performance by straight characters :)"
They made him shy and nervous but still wearing the sparkliest extraist outfit and they split this song between the obvious love interest and his supposed rival. Are we SURE they made him or the song straight?
I though it was done well. *Shrug*
For real thoooo, however I dont think Jason Derulo could pull off a song like this, and it was kinda cool what they did with Mr. Mistopholees's character, excluding his romance.
I don't see any problem with that. Isnt cats supposed to be interpretative? The people who did the movie preferred one ship. And honestly, I thought it was well done in the context of the movie, with Victoria as an outsider seeing beyond what a jellicle usually would. Besides, I'm not particularly a fan of Derulo as Tugger but given that I genuinely hate Tugger's number in this version of the play... i'd take it. I do wish they had kept Tugger's involvement in Misto's song though, I don't ship these two (nor... anyone really, except mayyyybe for demeter and munkustrap), but it would have been nice for tugger to show that he genuinely appreciates and respects Misto when he was feeling down in the movie.
just dudes being bros :)
I can’t believe they made mistoffelees straight for the movie lmao.
**Edit: it has been two years and this comment has never stopped inciting aggressive replies and energetic arguments. I can’t say I’m not amused, but let’s all find something productive to do. **
Lmao imagine
and rum tum tugger.... the fucking slander
I'm not surprised.
Was that straight???
Wait he's canon gay in the musical?
" p r e s t o "
I heard hesto
I kinda heard pesto like the sauce...
@@IceCreamCookie Me too xD
p r e s t o
Bianca Grava pasta
When Rum Tum is saying "He produced 7 kittens out of a hat" Mistoffelees is like "dude wait no" before rum tum says out of a hat and then he's like ohhh
PFFFT
Me: there’s no such thing as perfection
Misto: P R E S T O
Me: I take it back
Also Mistoffelees: Corss Paws... please don't make me do this, Munk! I'm begging you! I'm begging you!
Chris is literally insane.
@@ChristHoon there is no movie in Ba Sing Se
@@shayla106 I get I'm a year late but that made me spit out my drink. It was just so unexpected
Rum Tum Tugger: Mr. Mistoffelees is so amazing and powerful and magical, he's just the best cat ever I love him
Mr. Mistoffelees: *Rum Tum Tugger is a terrible bore*
If they aren't an OTP, I don't know who is
I ship it.
I ship it too!
We all ship them
Rum Tum loves what he can't have.
HERE COMES THE THEMES OF FICTION
Rum Tum Tugger, a cat so full of himself, is singing Mr. Mistoffelees' praises here and it's awesome
Like also does when introducing Old Deuteronomy. So Tugger is cocky and show offish but he is at least respectful
I
@@yosoydeyarumal I do not like the implication of this
@@ashtreesystem5265 I think that's because Rum Tum Tugger is Old Deuteronomys son. He's always one of the ones escorting him and they have similar facial fur textures.
@IgaveUpCompletely I don't think that line is in his song...
I'm actually getting a bit concerned about the number of cats I had a crush on when I was younger...
Older Simba, Rum Tum Tugger, Mr. Mistoffelees, Toulouse (Aristocats), etc.
Honestly I think I have crushes on all the boi cats and I’m scared why I don’t have any shame of it
Saaaammmmeeeee
Forte Piano I hear ya
Simba, Rum Tum Tugger, and Thomas O'Malley...lol
So the movie really gonna just not include tugger and mistoffeleese's undeniable sexual tension when in the of mistoffelees produced a sparkling rainbow out of a hat ????
I'd be glad they did, you can't possibly picture that working between Derulo and Laurie?
truly a hate crime against the gays 😔✋
Even the actors ship them like there is a backstage scene in cats where the actors show their rooms and then on the walls there are fanarts of two from tumblr.
@@AlphaInsomnia So, just because they have fan art on the two of them up on their dressing room wall doesn't mean they ship them. I have a drawing of one of my friends who's a girl and me on my bedroom wall and we're not dating.
@@TherealDanielleNelson They specifically tell they ship them and love searching the fanarts from tumblr. Three fanarts of them on the wall are two of them hugging or like on top of each other in a sexual manner. I'm not making this up smart ass.
Everyone's talking about the rainbow flag, but no one's talking about the glitter that also flew out.
rum tum tugger: He is the most magical cat, he's so great, he is best cat.
mistoffelees: Pulls a rainbow out of a cup and dances around.
Audience: seems legit, totally not gay or anything thats silly.
mr mistoffelees really ain't playing around y'all
All gay people are magic. The secret true gay agenda is actually just doing really good magic.
Meanwhile the CZcams audience is busy shipping the hell out of them.
Feline during the live show I went to his coat literally lit up in rainbow colors
I mean, you can have a rainbow without it being gay. Pretty sure it's supposed to be a flashy showcase of the "pull something out of something" trick most magicians do :p
The sexual tension between Mistoffelees & Rum Tum Tugger.....
FleurCannon yep
I SEE IT ITS THERE MAN!
Yees
mistoffelees literally runs around the room with a sparkly rainbow ribbon that rum tum tugger gives him. they are gay icons.
haha it's not like that it's more like Rum Tum Tugger enjoys other extraordinary cats like him cos nobody else truly understands the intellect behind it plus cos they enjoy to be seen and Rum Tum Tigger has an ego lol at first it seems Rum Tum Tigger is just a huge flirt and likes leading on the girls and just full of himself but behind his aloof and curious personality he enjoys the intricacies of what makes him and some other cats truly unique why he speaks so highly of Mr Mistoffelees and one of the few things he can actually agree on and it's high praise coming from him lol, nevertheless he knows the other cats wouldn't get it with the more intelligent ones it's like their own little club where they're the brains behind the operation :P being a curious cat Rum Tum Tugger is extremely intrigued by Mr Mistoffelees obviously why he pays attention more attention to him than the others do an enjoying an exciting life and adventures too he's one of the few cats out there that can actually keep him at the edge of his seat he LOVES all the magic and explosions.
Old Deuteronomy: *gets kidnapped*
Rum Tum tugger: can i offer you a magical mister mistoffles in these trying times
On the other side:
Victoria: Yes we can... yes we can bring Old Deut back. Well, my boyfriend Mistoffelees is a magician, and I'm believe in him, even he's nervous and insecure.
“You’ve seen it one moment,”
“But then,”
“ *IT IS G O N E* “
This comment is heavily underrated
*IT IS GAWWWNNNNN* 😂
:O
This comment 😂😂
and you'll find it next week laying out at the laaawn
When I was younger I accidentally sang it as " And not long ago this phenomenal cat once produced seven kittens right out of his ass."
Maddy Mads imagine that!!!¡!!
I'm honestly not sure I want to Skimble. I don't think I want to.
Maddy Mads okey dokey
Maddy Mads I did too
LOL
mr mistoffelees really pulled a rainbow flag out of a cup, CATS doesn’t play around.
Jim Halpert Hey Jim! How’s Pam?😂
Zero Todona @Jim Halpert never used that word. That’s a rude word to the lgbtq+ community
Samantha Victoria what’s a rude word?
Ashley S the comment was deleted. Someone said f-a-g
Yeah this play is a lot gayer than people realize I think
I’m sorry but no other person on earth could ever match John Patridge’s incredible voice for Rum Tum Tugger
Let’s face it. There will never be a recreation that will do this justice
John Patridge SHOULD train Jason Derulo to be a real Tugger.
@@ChristHoon I actually kinda agree, or they should’ve at least had some former performers help the newer cast out with the characters. Some of the performances were good, but I think some help woulda been nice for the cast.
@@ChristHoon there is no movie in Ba Sing Se
Agreed. Just as there’s no better grizabella than Elaine Paige.
@@amydavies9650never was
So many people are talking about Tugger and Misto, but no one is talking about Demeter and Munkustrap in the beginning and how they’re basically cuddling for the rest of the number. They’re so cute!
*nobody is perfect*
Rum:
Tugger just being the hype man for his smol boyfriend. He’s basically just like yaassss babe through this whole song 😂😂
Yaas :D
On the other side, Victoria just being Mistoffelees' beautiful mate and asks him try to bring Old Deut back. He's sings his own song nervously but success.
@@ChristHoon haha what??? bro tugger and misto are DEFINITELY a thing
@@lilyflower50099 You can't picture that Tugger x Misto ship works for Derulo and Laurie
@@lilyflower50099 Also Mistoffelees' jealous Tugger for attracts Victoria's attraction
I didn't think they were Gay, and then I read the comments.. My eyes have been opened. Wonder how their 7 kids are doing.
😂😂😂😂❤️❤️❤️
Why do I have the feeling that these two have adopted every stray kitten they meet.
Well.. for the 7 kittens, Misto's still keeping them, but he's going raise them with Victoria
@@ChristHoon Ew
@@anotheranimeweebfellas4582 Don't bother. He's spamming the comments to make people mad.
I love how Munk is smiling softly in the background the whole time like "I'm so happy my immature brother is actually in love"
POV: Munkustrap:
"I knew it. My brother is G A Y :D"
Rum Tum Tugger introducing Mr. Mistoffelees and just basically complimenting him throughout the entire song. Mr. Mistoffelees rolling his eyes when Rum Tum Tugger was being introduced and flirting with the lady cats... *OTP confirmed*
Micay YES!!!
They're brothers and Mistofolees is slightly jealous of Tugger. Old Deuteronomy is their father and the father or grandfather of some of the others.
Burt Gummerfan - The actual family tree for the Jellicles isn't confirmed. What is confirmed, however, is that Munkustrap and Tugger are brothers and sons of Old Deuteronomy. The relationships between the cats is up for your own interpretation. I personally believe that Misto and Victoria are siblings and Bustopher Jones is their uncle, making an unnamed queen their mother.
Hayes last I checked, Macavity is also related to Munkustrap and RTT, but I don't remember how(Perhaps the evil uncle, heh)
I KNEW I'D FIND YAOI IN THE COMMENTS. I DON'T COMPLAIN.
When your boyfriend writes a song that brags about you
Kkkk
XD
My single ass can't relate.
AND a revise too
IKR he even pulls that pride flag at the end I ship.
I live for the scene with Demeter and Munkustrap at the beginning - she was just nearly kidnapped by Macavity, he just lost the fight and is probably blaming himself for not being able to protect Old Deuteronomy, and now they're cheering each other up.
Don't get me wrong, I love Rum Tum Tugger with Mr Mistoffelees, but Demeter and Munkustrap is my favourite ship in the entire show
But I ship Mr. Mistoffelees and Victoria
@@ChristHoon nobody asked
@@ChristHoon you might be the only one...
@@ChristHoon Can you stop? People have different opinions and you don’t need to spam your opinions on either people’s opinions. It’s rude and inconsiderate.
@@phantomv5627 Why do I have to? But you won't stop for bullying the movie version because you think is funny to do that, keep saying it's suck? So never tell me what to do! You're not the boss of me!
3:26
*Rum:* and, not long ago this PHENOMENAL cat
*Mistoffelees:* wait please dont -
*Rum:* (. ❛ ᴗ ❛.)
😏
Misto: wait, no, I'm shy
Rum: You're amazing and I'm telling everyone about it
Not gonna lie, the first time I ever saw this scene, I thought that the two cats at the beginning were having some forbidden love story and RTT interrupted to tell them that they had to be approved by Misto and that Misto was some kinda magical love councilor
Seagullgully I love this
That would be a amazing story line
Me too!!
"and Presto!" "What is that?" "All will be revealed! Macivity, you must walk a few miles for the secret to be revealed, go now and I will call you back! "
"... Demeter take these divorce papers and a restraining order, your boo is CRAZY"
Me revisiting childhood nostalgia, reading the comments, rolling my eyes at people trying to force subtext where there is none.
Two seconds later...
Tugger growls that Mr Mistoffelees is a "phenomenal" Cat, M gives him a "cool it" look and hold his paws out to him, Tugger mirrors him and backs up a bit, M then pulls out a sparkly rainbow hanky and runs round with it as Tugger looks on with pride...
Me: FINE I SEE IT!
"with *pride*"
I see what u did there
As a magician myself, Mr Mistoffelees is my spirit animal. Even if he’s just a character, he’s always my inspiration to continue doing magic. I always listen to this after every trip to the magic shop because it makes me so happy to continue doing this passion
That's really cool. Mr. Mistoffelees is my favorite too.
they did mr mistoffelees so dirty in the cats movie
Eleanor Nixon they also did Tugger so dirty. :(
they homophobic >:(
@Avengers are prostitutes true...
I love your user
They did everyone so dirty
Exactly >:(
I saw this in like March and Misto’s Jacket had rainbow lights and it was very extra and Misto and Tugger hugged and basically I cried.
The gay tum tugger energy in this chat is strong and honestly I’m here for it...and very confused as to why we didn’t see it sooner
And Misto pulls a rainbow outta that hat too 🙃
If I don’t get couple vibes from them in the new movie I’m walking out
Mr mystofolees is so adorable and extremely shy
The rum tum tugger is romantic and in love with his reflections
The two of them work so well as a forbidden couple
Foxy Avocado amen
Sounds like yuri on ice,
You can't picture that Tugger x Misto ship works for Derulo and Laurie
On the other side, Mr. Mistoffelees is super nervous, very insecure, a lot of flirts awkwardly moments with Victoria cause he has crush on her. He was so desperate to draw Victoria’s attention to him trying to prove himself to her
Rum Tum Tugger loves no one but, himself. Rum Tum Tuggers number 1 client is Rum Tum Tugger. It seems they don't mind him hogging the spotlight.
In some versions Mistoffelees does sing the final verse but I like how the Rum Tum Tugger Praises him. It's as if Mistoffelees is so shy he can't even boast about himself like the other cats do. Just a little detail I've always noticed :)
He does look shy and a but clumsy in the 2019 trailer.
Perhaps he was simply a more modest cat given his extraordinary capabilities like summoning lightning bolts at will?
If that were me, I think that action alone would prove my awesomeness😂✌
Came here to wash the CG out of my eyes
Same
honestly i'm more concerned about them changing characters and the story line. the CG isn't really that bad on the non fat cats
bicoscryin same, I’m already sad at the lack of several iconic characters, so they better not destroy the few they have in the film.
@@bicoscryin no the fat ones are the only ones that look like cats u can see the faces move around on the skinny cats
@@ThePeaceofWildThings Their bodies are real, but there were NO cat costumes or makeup involved as a base for the CGI-- so the colors, cat markings, etc.. everything that makes them cat-people, is CGI'd, so it looks odd. People also say that the actors weren't the actual dancers and they just CGI'd their faces onto the dancers which is why they look so wonky... not sure about that, but something definitely went wrong there. It just looks.... off.
Mister mistoffelees said lgbt rights
@orionh3000 pence lol
@orionh3000 Furry haters
No he doesn't.
@@gill426 ye he do
@@gill426 he did along with his punk boyfriend
Still raged that we didn’t get a ‘presto’ in the film
I Raged during the entire song so you not wrong girl
He he, your coment matches the one on top
Is this presto's necessary ?
Chris Hoon always...
@@lunaamakura7683 If an ASSHOLE like YOU is wondering why the 2019 film version of Mr. Mistoffelees (played by Laurie Davidson) doesn't sound as confident as his stage and 1998 film counterparts, it's because this version of Mr. Mistoffelees is a magician-in-training who is very meek and insecure about his magical abilities and lacks confidence in his skills, but it isn't until this song that he finally gains his confidence and rescues Old Deut. According to what happened behind the scenes: Laurie had to prepare choreography for his Mistoffelees audition, but because he is not a trained dancer, his audition dance was "awful" and "brazen". However, this is what caught Tom Hooper's attention and influenced what the movie character would become.
New title: rock cat sings about magical boyfriend part 1
How about: A beautiful pure white cat asks her nervous and insecure boyfriend try to bring their leader back
@@ChristHoon bruh they meant for this version. I get that you ship Victoria and Misto, but you shouldn’t invalidate other people’s opinions on ships just because of it.
@@ChristHoon I like how your going off on people for getting mad at you and your telling them to shut up and stop shipping fictional characters. BUT YOUR LITERALLY SHIPPING MISTORIA LMAOO. RTT and M have more chemistry and interaction throughout the whole than the one interaction from V and M. The original version of CATS has so many LGBT hidden eggs and even non-hidden all over it.
The strongest feeling I had when I walked out of the musical was that I shipped the hell out of those two
OMG SAME
SAME BRO
Same my friend and I were dying during this number because one time the lights on his jacket turned rainbow🤣 and during Curtain Call they almost kissed so when we were walking out of the theater we were screaming "OTP confirmed!!!!!!"
And the people around us were very concerned
Why is Mistoffelees so cute? I can't deal with this!
He's fucking ugly the fuck?
I'll have to admit, he is really cute.
And I like how Rum Rum Tugger keeps saying how cute and small he is
Adorable mr mistofolees
@@mikakaitao4245 SHUT UR MOUTH CAT HATING
Musical: RTT and MM are fabulous boyfriends, and RTT cant help but sing about his amazing boyfriend all show
Movie: RTT is pretty much a background cat for most songs, and MM ends up with Victoria.
Im literally fuming how dirty they did RTT and Misto i came here to feel better and I'm glad Im not the only person disappointed
I am one hundred percent sure if they'd tried to get Derulo to the song it would have out cringed everything else and I know for a lot of you that's saying somthing. They made the right choice.
@@mousinge AGREED! I think they must have tried it at some point in the beginning and were like "Nope."
at least the movie didn’t fuck with our beloved Tugger too badly?
How in the world did the directors decide to make
A. The Rum Tum Tugger a BACKGROUND character?!
B. Mister. Mistofellees STRAIGHT?!
We all need someone who will hype us up as much as Rum Tum Tugger hypes up Mr. Mistoffelees in this song.
Just get Victoria replaced Tugger for that song already
okay but this is the perfect ship. rum tum tugger, it’s always about him, but he takes a lovely 10 minutes or so to sing about this small, shy, mysterious cat. mr. mistoffelees has major bottom vibes, tugger has major top vibes. it just works.
FACTS
i mean i would argue Tugger is a power bottom
Fuck off, Mistoffelees and Victoria are the better ship!
@@ChristHoon did you just learn all these curse words? youre saying them in almost every comment, Do you want an award? Do you want a cookie? Nobody cares about youre opinion on the remake, we're looking at the 1998 one for a reason, look at the 2019 stuff if you wanna be like that.
I love when Mistoffelees goes "Presto!"
I can’t believe the movie made him het. what a loss.
Also the stage pyrotechnics SLAP here
Ivy J.
he and Rum Tum have never been gay. i doubt TS Elliot or Andrew Lloyd Weber ever did or ever will consider making them gay.
@@ivyj.9489 Tugger has completley replaced by Victoria (and a little bit of Munk) to fit the movie, and Jason Derulo can't bring this "sexy magic party" to live. Also the song is basically going up to a birthday magician and saying "Hey kid, we need you to out-magic this demonic archmage, or the world as we know it will come to an end. We've only got like 5 minutes, can you do it?"
Mr. Mistoffelees: “SO THEN I START BLASTIN’!”
Also Mistoffelees: Cross Paws... Please don't make me do this, Munk. I'm begging you, I'm begging you!
I want a cat that can shoot lightning. First musical I ever saw and still holds a place in my heart.
LucarioNinja92 samee
It's my first musical too lol
Of course you can hear Mistoffelees from the roof when he's next to the fire, he's echoing up the chimney.
It always seemed like I was the only one thinkin that through logically. I could never see the magic in it😂
@@snowball_from_earth Thats the point though lol. I feel like its demonstrating the cat like thinking. They dont get chimneys, so to them obviously its M A G I C and I love that so much X'D
Imagine watching his entrance in the musical and thinking that he’s the cat to make the straight love interest
you mean Mistoffelees to his love interest Victoria
@ANIA LUTZ Who said They didn't have?
*Mistoffelees is the only Jellicle shown watching her during her big solo.
*At the end of "Old Deuteronomy" to the beginning of "The Pekes of the Pollicles, they have are seen to have a small interaction on screen.
*In the first part of the Jellicle Ball, they have a background stroking session.
*During Gus The Theatre Cat's song, they sit next to each other in the back. Also, when Gus remarks about Victoria's reign, Victoria falls and Quaxo catches her.
*They interact and touch hands many times during the show.
*During Mistoffelees' song, he shoots lightning at her, and they smile at each other.
*After "Memory"'s reprise, Victoria touches and accepts Grizabella and hands her to Mistoffelees to touch and accept her.
*When Grizabella was going to the Heaviside Layer, they are seen together on screen during the event.
@@ChristHoon pretty sure it’s because they’re littermates...
Plato was right there!!! Victoria actually had a scene with Plato. Why would they ship her with Mr. Mistoffelees???
I like how Tugger mimics some of his moves and silently cheers him on in gestures, *agh I love this ship so much*
I honestly love Partridge's voice and how he plays his character.
The Rum Tum Tugger and Mr Mistoffelees are fangirling so hard about eachother, they´re the best shipping ever!!!
YES
When I was a kid I never even saw comments like this
It feels kinda weird
and yes I also ship them
I see why rum tum tugger is not interested in female cats
HE LOVES MR. MISTOFFELEES
Cheroke Holmes wow
Montse Ontiveros
hate to break it to ya but he is absolutely enjoying all the attention he gets from the kittens, just not Bumbalurina.
This Mr Mistoffelees is so cute and so expressive, it is hard to imagine anyone playing him better
Who said it's hard? It's very easy to see that Laurie Davidson playing a better. His Misto looks more cute when he took off his hat, and more expressive when he fall in love with Victoria.
Who is he??
@@_chickenhead Of course you don't know, because you don't care
@@ChristHoon Lol he's Jacob Brent, a theatre prof at my college. Trollll
All the MM are cute (
except the MM of the film. He's pathetic). The atual MM (PJ Digaetano) is a very very lovely
I love that Munkustrap is singing the ooh ahaha with those two
Elizabeth
Those two are Demeter his mate and Bomblurina her sister.
I'm just noticing this, and it's cracking me up:
@3:20 Misto points and there's no lightning, so he turns to RTT and shrugs like "idk what happened there." And then he turns and zaps and strikes a pose like that was all according to plan.
It took me a good 10 times watching this to also see there are several times RTT does the same dances as Misto, encouraging him throughout the song to do more magic, but I didn't even catch that there was supposed to be lightning! I thought Misto was just striking a pose but got a bit of anxiety (or something) lol
OptimistChi how did I not notice that lol
Rum Tum Tugger: we gotta save Old Deuteronomy and my boyfriend is perfect for the job.
2019 version:
Victoria: Yes we can... yes we can bring Old Deut back. Well, my boyfriend Mistoffelees is a magician, and I'm believe in him even he's nervous and insecure.
@@ChristHoon we get it, you ship mistoria
@@obiwankenobi9141 I didn’t bring that up. Why did you? I never said I shipped it, because I myself am gay
@@obiwankenobi9141 but that really didn’t have anything to do with it. I was just saying that he replies to every comment about Tugger x Misto, basically invalidating the ship as a whole, and I was just saying that he’s said it over and over, and it’s gotten okd
@@yassjun4309 I see what you mean, I was just comparing something I didn't really think about to another thing I didn't really think about, I'm probably gonna delete the initial comment, lets just move on from this whole conflict.
the director for the 2019 movie must have wanted as little jason derulo as possible because misto had to sing this song about himself
yeah what was up with that :-( would've loved to see movie mistoffelees blow shit up too
Honestly tho, love Jason Derulo, but legit he was not the strongest singer in cats maybe it was for the best
They probably had to cater the story to the celebrities' time. Just lame
In the original show, when it first came out, Misto sang his own song. But my understanding is that during production, they realized they would always have to find an almost top tier dancer who could also sing and decided they would rather have an amazing dancer and get someone else to sing than get a good singer who could moderately dance. So Misto actors now get more chance to show off. Which I think is great for the character since Tugger even says how Misto is so quiet that you would *think* he was shy but he's just much better with actions than words. He's very confident in his skill as he shows off, so I don't know why they did that him in the movie.
thrumples
in the movie they made Mistoffelees have a stage fright issue, so they made him sing his song himself so he could conquer it.
When i was little I used to have a crush on Mistoffelees and Rum Tum Tugger
Rumpelteazer for me
+Al Weighs Wright I still have a crush on Rumpelteazer 💕
+Al Weighs Wright I still have a crush on Rumpelteazer 💕
fuckin furry
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1:21 can we take moment to appriciate how cute rumpleteazer looks here? heehee i love this song it has such a differrent feel then the rest of the musical. can any one relate? also misto and rum tum tugger are officially the best ship to ever come out of any fandom ever.
Rumple is the cutest female cat in my opinion^^
They did my boy so dirty in that goddamn film
They killed them... their life, their seven kittens. It’s a nightmare
@@gingerluigiwithnomoustache7411 I think Misto still have the seven kittens, but he's going raise them with Victoria
If an ASSHOLE like YOU is wondering why the 2019 film version of Mr. Mistoffelees (played by Laurie Davidson) doesn't sound as confident as his stage and 1998 film counterparts, it's because this version of Mr. Mistoffelees is a magician-in-training who is very meek and insecure about his magical abilities and lacks confidence in his skills, but it isn't until this song that he finally gains his confidence and rescues Old Deut. According to what happened behind the scenes: Laurie had to prepare choreography for his Mistoffelees audition, but because he is not a trained dancer, his audition dance was "awful" and "brazen". However, this is what caught Tom Hooper's attention and influenced what the movie character would become.
@@ChristHoon bruh. Kudos to your obsessive devotion to replying to every single comment that even vaguely implies the person ships these characters, but sit down and chillax. You have one canonic interpretation where the white female cat gets with the black tux cat, how about you enjoy having that instead of raining on everyone's parade. The stage productions have had multiple interpretations hinting/supportive of Tugger with Mistofelees. Why you've decided to nag repeatedly with your copy pasting at everyone who hoped to see it in the movie and was disappointed, as though your ship's survival somehow hinges on you bashing the other's right to exist, is beyond me. It's just humanoid cats ffs, just make a singular comment stating your preference, away from other comments' threads and be done with it, yeesh.
@@angelic252 Look pal. What I did was offended to protect a story like this because in many ways the movie version is misunderstood and underrated. There are lot of good things about the movie version, and you should understand and like that they still problem solved in a situation.
And guess what? It's one if the reasons that changed the perspective of this musical, and what made me stand up for it when the movie version was brought up being ridiculed.
Does anyone else think it’s cute when they dance in sync with each other?
2:30 Look at him, looking at his boyfriend like "God I love this nerd. 😂
1:21 RUMPLETEAZER OMG im dead i love her
YES! I can't get enough of her. I love that face she makes.
Her energy is insane,she and Ecterta are neck to neck for whos cuter.
when i see rumpleteazer i hit like
I prefer mungojerrie
She's such a cutie I love her so much!!!!
This is mostly about Rum and Misto but I love the beginning:
Munkustrap: I...failed
Demeter: I still love you
Rum Tum: Wait. I know a guy.
2019 version:
Munk: I... failed
Demeter: I still love you, and there must be other way, but we can't use magic to bring Old Deut back...
Victoria: Yes we can... yes we can bring Old Deut back. Well, my boyfriend Mistoffelees is a magician, and I'm believe in him even he's nervous and insecure.
@@ChristHoon 2019 version? There is no such thing
@@christopherbacon1077 You're such a coward. Hiddening yourself away from Tom Hooper version of the movie. Pretending nothing happened on last year. You're got No tastes of that horrible CGI movie. But I'm enjoy that version of "Mr. Mistoffelees song" and Mistoria shipping.... VERY, VERY MUCH.
@@ChristHoon I wouldn't have a problem with the ship except that It's main purpose seems to be to replace the admittedly one side Rum Tumstofelees ship and turn Misto straight. So add covert homophobia to the list of things wrong with the un-movie
@@christopherbacon1077 YOU think that "NO GAY in the movie" thing is wrong, but it's good for everyone. You can't picture that Tugger x Misto ship work for Derulo and Laurie.
I know Tugger is practically bragging about his boyfriend but can we all just talk about how cute he is playing with Etcetera while singing?
The card from a pack and cunning with dice, he's playing with her and she's so cute
john partridge performance is the best I've seen. he truly pulls this character to the top
I had the most awkward crush on him when I was a kid because of this performance.
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yeah... i was heartbroken when i found out he's gay :'(
Jane boi his gayness is the most obvious thing tf
Presto!😂😂😂
Alex Waren You noticed that too 😂😂
Alex Waren i think that's the only thing he said
that part makes me crack every time
Presto!!!!
I love the reactions from the other Cats.
Fab ricio
Not all of the Cats talk about them selves, other Cats tell their story for them, but they do say other things and sing throughout the show.
2:32 Tugger is like "that's my boyfriend im so proud of him"
Alternatively "that's my bitch"
i like how tugger says he is shy, and than mistoffelees goes full Palpatine throwing lighting and shit
misto got done so dirty in the trailer :(
Everyone did.
the entire musical itself, cats and all, got done dirty
Prepare for Jason derulo doing hip thrusts in CGI horror
Actually, I think that was one of the things made extremely well in it. Not only was he the most cat-looking out of all of the 'cats', but he was adorable.
I'm gonna keep an open mind. Finally a movie where something different was tried.
that one multifandom nerd Bruh did you see my boi Munkustrap? They slaughtered my boi. 😭
I commented in more depth on part two of this song, but I wanted to address this video too. I just love his face at 2:44 and his interaction with Rum Tum Tugger at 3:30. He seems so sweet and full of wonder. And the song does say that he appears shy! Anyway, I love this song!
Jasmine Dancing Hands Almost every facial expression is just pure Cuteness.
This is the best version of this song in existence. No one else gives it the same energy and personality. I was pretty sad that Tugger didn’t perform it in the new movie. He sang it himself for the most part which is weird... because it just sounds like bragging at that point 😂
I read Mistoffelees is suppose to sing with Tugger but if the actor vocals aren't strong enough Tugger will sing it for him . That because Mistoffelees role is a principal dancer just like his counterpart victoria. Originally victoria and Jemima was suppose to be the same cat but they couldn't find a actress who could do both singing and dancing so they split it to two cats .
@@mylingnovels8000 So it actually makes perfect sense they got combined in the movie, I figured it was just cos they had the same reaction Grizabella and Hooper only wanted one character for that, but that's good to know.
I think it worked as him trying to psych himself. If he'd the chorus or the intro/finish then yeah, it would have but they only gave him the parts where he was reminding himself of all the things he knew he could do. I do think it's interseting they didn't just give all the other bits to Victoria, but to Munkustrap as well.
The musical: these cats are the gayest cats ever, so gay that one of them creates a rainbow flag
The movie: tHeY weRe StRaiGht
The cats weren't gay. Broadway is gay
I never saw them as gay, so.....also, rainbows haven't always meant gay.
wanderingbutnotlost that’s your interpretation.
They weren't canonically gay in the play either
@@cakiepop2038 No, that is fact my friend. I honestly cannot fathom how you people even saw them as gay lovers. My guess is projecting your sexuality onto them.