FFP vs SFP First Focal Plane Scope or Second Focal Plane Scopes : Cyclops Mailbox

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  • FFP vs SFP scopes is a question I get asked a lot . First focal plane and second focal plane scopes each have their own advantages and disadvantages. Here are some things to consider when trying to decide which type of scope suits your needs . Shopping for rifle scopes can be half the fun , but can also be confusing . This video series , Cyclops Mailbox I Hope will help you make good scope buying choices . Here is a link to another video or two of mine I think you may enjoy .
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Komentáře • 441

  • @CyclopsJoeVideos
    @CyclopsJoeVideos  Před 3 měsíci

    Guys , here is my affiliate link to Optics Force opticsforce.com/cyclops Use any coupon or discount code on the Website . It saves you money and helps support the Channel , Thanks

  • @tompedersen6564
    @tompedersen6564 Před 4 lety +42

    You have a gift for explaining the complicated for us simple folk. You put the hay down where the horses can eat it. Another excellent video. Thanks, Joe.

  • @laurineil-morin3792
    @laurineil-morin3792 Před 4 lety +1

    Thanks for the input, always useful. Your right about Euro glass. They over build them. You keep safe.

  • @riosax1536
    @riosax1536 Před 4 lety +1

    Great honest information Joe, much appreciated!

  • @bjolly8924
    @bjolly8924 Před rokem

    Hell yeah!! No meaningless dribble, right down to business, clear concise and thorough explanation!!
    Just what the doctor ordered. 👍🤛

  • @jeffstevens156
    @jeffstevens156 Před 2 lety

    Just discovered You. I love the no nonsense, You tell it like it is. Scopes are tools is the best line I’ve heard this year. Thank You.

  • @CyclopsJoeVideos
    @CyclopsJoeVideos  Před 3 lety +5

    Guys I have setup a Patreon Account and PayPal for those who would like to help out my channel . It helps more than you can ever know . Here are the links . Patreon www.patreon.com/user?u=44896748 PayPal www.paypal.me/JoeWayneRhea It helps me keep honest reviews coming . Thank you so very much , Joe

  • @henrymoreland8719
    @henrymoreland8719 Před 4 lety +1

    Food for thought, thanks Joe.

  • @caseyallen4484
    @caseyallen4484 Před 4 lety +1

    Spot joe you nailed the pros and cons perfect keep up the good work

  • @scottscheuerman6170
    @scottscheuerman6170 Před 3 lety

    I really like your video’s you always explain where a person understands the scopes you review my uncle he always preferred fix power scopes and I got a couple of fixed power scopes on hunting rifles I also totally understand first and and second focal plain scope in how they work thank you for these awesome videos

  • @eck2go
    @eck2go Před rokem

    Thanks Joe, very good advice and descriptive video.

  • @jameslight4936
    @jameslight4936 Před 4 lety +4

    Bought a lot of crap scopes before I found your channel. Still looking for something. But now I know all this great info...it's getting harder to choose.

  • @drmichaelatkins
    @drmichaelatkins Před 2 lety

    Very clear explanation - just what we need. AND some practical tips too.

  • @robertpierce4566
    @robertpierce4566 Před 4 lety

    Good job explaining. Been trying to wrap my head around the whole FFP vs SFP. You helped!

  • @mikeymike975
    @mikeymike975 Před 3 lety +1

    I love how informative your videos are! Thanks for always posting great content!

  • @jim687
    @jim687 Před rokem

    Thank you for this. It's been incredibly helpful!!

  • @DStein-jn9ls
    @DStein-jn9ls Před 3 lety

    Thanks for this valuable information! You’re helping me make better buying choices.

  • @tedbaxter5234
    @tedbaxter5234 Před 4 lety +5

    Great video! I have a vaRiable FFP that I really like because I don’t have to make mil calculations based on magnification. However, zoomed out too far means I have problems distinguishing mils. Zoomed in too far means I can’t always get to the bottom end of the mil scale. It is a 3-5x and for most shots I find I use 6-9x because it is allows me to se the mils for best effect.
    If I was shooting center fire, it would shoot flatter and wouldn’t be a big deal but I’ve got it on an Airgun and so it Range estimates and seeing the mils it pretty important.
    Thanks for posting this!
    Stay clear of the Virus, please.

  • @wayneshingleton1985
    @wayneshingleton1985 Před 3 lety

    So glad I watched this video. I was about to buy a first focal plane for my Tikka 270 deer hunting rifle. The fist focal plane reticle would have been too thin for low magnification which I use when hunting in the wooded areas. I went with the Athlon HMR 2.5-15 and so far I like it. I can reach out and nail a coyote in the back of the field with the higher magnification. Thanks Joe for the great information.

  • @gregrauscher4524
    @gregrauscher4524 Před 2 lety +4

    I know reticle is thinner but by using my 6-24x50 at 9 and using the illumination it makes a huge difference. FFP mil is fast for changing range unlike sfp MOA where the reticle spacing changes depending on magnification. I zero at 300 yds and anything up to 500 is easily done by just using the range card of memory...not hard. for longer shots I have my range card and a VERY simple hold point...rarely use turrets. To each his own and my hunting is open cuts and cross canyon shots on moose and elk. good video for newbs.

  • @franklagos7066
    @franklagos7066 Před 2 lety

    With your amazing way of explaining things makes it so much easier to understand. No dought your the superman of optics .👍👍👍

  • @Alan-sb1hm
    @Alan-sb1hm Před 4 lety

    Thanks for the very well explained differences in those Scopes Joe really appreciate it... take care and stay safe

  • @AFROSNIPERX
    @AFROSNIPERX Před 4 lety

    Thank you for making this video my friend I needed this one.

  • @davemonday5381
    @davemonday5381 Před 4 lety

    Love it every day is a school day. I’ve learned something. And you answer questions befor they’ve been asked. Cheers

  • @siddarthasivila1829
    @siddarthasivila1829 Před rokem

    Thanks for your honest opinion, always great videos awesome work!!!

  • @JV-qb6ib
    @JV-qb6ib Před 2 lety

    Great job Joe!

  • @johnrand2862
    @johnrand2862 Před 2 lety

    Very well explained, thank you.

  • @steveschrader9250
    @steveschrader9250 Před 3 lety

    As usual, another great video. I'm pretty happy with my Vortex Diamondback.

  • @Smootus
    @Smootus Před 3 lety

    This answered for me the type focal plane to get.... thanks so much

  • @mason24682
    @mason24682 Před 3 lety

    Great and very informative video. I was in 2 minds which type of scope I wanted FFP or SFP and this cleared my mind. SFP fits my shooting disciplines better and I can understand why now. Thanks for the info and I'm now a subscriber to be able to learn more and help you in a tiny way, to continue your great videos

  • @Nessy3nity
    @Nessy3nity Před rokem

    Good stuff! Thanks for sharing!

  • @klausschulz1816
    @klausschulz1816 Před 2 lety

    you are like the big brother that is always trust worthy and knowledgeable with great patient always go to,thanks for all

  • @CarolinaEDCreviews
    @CarolinaEDCreviews Před 4 lety +3

    Same here I want a simple scope, that’s what I use when I hunted and works for me

  • @bigracer3867
    @bigracer3867 Před 3 lety

    Excellent review of first and second. I’m with you on the fixed power for hunting. Definitely not enough to choose from.

  • @tonygslc801
    @tonygslc801 Před 4 lety +2

    I agree with Carl. SFP for Hunting and FFP for target shooting. Just my personal preference. 👊😎🇺🇸

  • @skip123davis
    @skip123davis Před 4 lety

    thanks joe! this is a really great video about something i've been puzzling over for quite a while. i'm going to rewatch it and send it to a couple buddies.

  • @donrollo7329
    @donrollo7329 Před 4 lety

    Thank you, you made it very easy for me to figure out what i need, Vortex Strike Eagle 1x8x24

  • @mman9306
    @mman9306 Před 3 lety

    Love your videos. Your "KISS" method of explaining things does it or me. Appreciate it brother !

  • @bradfordtolleson5504
    @bradfordtolleson5504 Před 3 lety

    Another incredible video thanks Joe

  • @muckydog5806
    @muckydog5806 Před 3 lety

    Very Helpfull, thank you for the easy to understand no-nonsence explanation, your genuine honesty is very much appreciated.

  • @henrypeterson1981
    @henrypeterson1981 Před 4 lety +1

    Another Excellent Video. Great Explanation of FFP and SFP, as well as your descriptive of Fixed Power. It doesn’t get easier than this Video. Thank You for the hard work you put in to your Channel.

  • @TheAirgunPodcast
    @TheAirgunPodcast Před 3 lety

    Super helpful information. I hadn't considered some of these things but I will for sure now. You're the man Joe!

  • @CAStone-kq4md
    @CAStone-kq4md Před 8 měsíci

    Thanks one eye scope guy !
    Your info is very useful and your personality is not boring . 😊

  • @danielglenaman7018
    @danielglenaman7018 Před 4 lety

    Another great video Joe !!!

  • @snowowl342
    @snowowl342 Před 4 lety +2

    Another good video. Thanks

  • @andylarner3531
    @andylarner3531 Před 4 lety +3

    words of wisdom thank you

  • @123joshmallett
    @123joshmallett Před 3 lety

    Perfect. Thank you!

  • @malcolmfield6677
    @malcolmfield6677 Před 2 lety

    Great info that I really needed.

  • @jeffreinardy7570
    @jeffreinardy7570 Před 3 lety

    Petty new to optics. You were the one who explained the basics far better than anyone else out there! I do not subscribe to much, but after seeing you make the complicated simple. You were an instant subscribe for me!

  • @bessiebraveheart
    @bessiebraveheart Před 4 lety +1

    Hi from England. I have some german and Austrian fixed power scopes. One I had on a remington 700. The optics are superb. By the way I bought that compressor you were reviewing. It does what it says on the tin.

  • @tonycarr1253
    @tonycarr1253 Před 2 lety

    Jeeese …. You tell Nothing But The …. Truth.
    Love your videos, getting my Education Every Time I Tune In👌🏽

  • @carlferguson7852
    @carlferguson7852 Před 4 lety +9

    SFP for hunting and FFP for long range targets. I used a fix power scope for years and I'm a fan!

    • @tonygslc801
      @tonygslc801 Před 4 lety +1

      I agree 100% 👊😎🇺🇸

    • @Checo1
      @Checo1 Před 4 lety +1

      What about I little but of both. Hunting and target shooting. I will probably be more time at the range 300 to 500 yard than hunting. Which I normally at 100 - 150 yards.

    • @tonygslc801
      @tonygslc801 Před 4 lety

      @@Checo1 in that case I would probably go with an FFP, good for long-range but you can also dial down for close-up situations. Keep in mind the further you dial down the smaller your reticle will get. 👊😎🇺🇸

    • @Geekygordon
      @Geekygordon Před 3 lety

      Had been leaning toward the 2nd focal plane for my 308 deer gun.
      Thanks

  • @YourCreatorGod
    @YourCreatorGod Před 3 lety

    Thanks I've been watching your videos. Im begining to understand scopes and optics .👍

  • @ronburnett9421
    @ronburnett9421 Před 2 lety

    I have 2 of the Bushnell 10X Tactical Elite scopes and I have used them on everything, probably bought em 12-15 years ago, thanks joe !

  • @bulufish8208
    @bulufish8208 Před 4 lety

    Very insightful on scopes. Thank you. The only thing left out was BUDGET. LOTS of folks can't afford a first focal and that's where you're advice is always on target. Stay fafe

  • @novisnick6928
    @novisnick6928 Před 2 lety

    Found you late last week! Love you just the way you are, maybe not the Coors though! LOL I’m learning and having fun with every post you make. Thanks so much

  • @tnsharpshooter8517
    @tnsharpshooter8517 Před 3 lety

    You tell it like you see it. I like that. No BSing around.

  • @JorgeGarcia-lw7vc
    @JorgeGarcia-lw7vc Před 4 lety +1

    Great video. A couple of cents from my end: 1. If you wanna use your scope for ranging, then I prefer a FFP. 2. If you want to shoot at distances with guns that do not imply much bullet drop, say, within a wooded area with shots within 200yds, a clear SFP is the way to go. For fixed scopes, FFP or SFP, it's pretty much the same thing, and I also love fixed scopes, cuz a decent price around $300 will get you an awesome scope! Thanks again for all the good points, Cyclops--I just miss the strippers at the end of the video, hehe!!

  • @svilenp
    @svilenp Před 4 lety

    Another excellent video!!!

  • @joseconcepcion1354
    @joseconcepcion1354 Před rokem

    Thanks for a great information

  • @blakesterr.9599
    @blakesterr.9599 Před 4 lety

    Picked up a Weaver K -6 vintage. You're right on clarity for fixed-power. I have not mounted it yet, but looked through it, and was happy. I like simple scopes. I agree on your holdover argument too on sfp and ffp. I learn quite a bit on your channel too.

  • @65LB
    @65LB Před 4 lety

    Thanks, straight up answer!

  • @HiLuxInc
    @HiLuxInc Před 4 lety

    Keep up the fantastic info!
    Fixed-power scopes are like prime lenses. There's just something wonderful about how they're put together.

  • @skippylippy547
    @skippylippy547 Před 4 lety +2

    Wow I learned a LOT with this video! Thanks Joe. Awesome channel. ^5

  • @rickgomez2003
    @rickgomez2003 Před 4 lety

    Thank you for all the information. I have learned a lot about scopes thank to these videos.

    • @CyclopsJoeVideos
      @CyclopsJoeVideos  Před 4 lety +1

      Thanks Rick

    • @rickgomez2003
      @rickgomez2003 Před 4 lety

      @@CyclopsJoeVideos if you don't mind could you recomend a good ffp scope for a .25 pcp airgun under 500.00 ? I will be shotting mostly ground hogs and plinking.

  • @ratdog3055
    @ratdog3055 Před 4 lety +6

    There is a door #4 as well.. I set my variable scopes on a specific power (say 6 x on a 3-9) and leave it there. Then you have a kinda fixed scope without the costs.

    • @alexllc2958
      @alexllc2958 Před 2 lety

      for hunting I prefer 1x8 since average range 150-300

  • @Humborg1
    @Humborg1 Před 4 lety

    I Must have watched 20 different videos on ffp or sfp differences . Yours was the most helpful by far. Just a better job explaining period. I just got my primary arms gl 4x18x50 Tuesday. Its ffp . Still waiting on darn mount. Keep up great videos. Chance.

  • @ColoradoAirgunner
    @ColoradoAirgunner Před 4 lety +1

    Great video! I'm sure this helped a lot of people.

  • @timothymroberts2949
    @timothymroberts2949 Před 3 lety

    Very informative and insightful

  • @davidpaylor5666
    @davidpaylor5666 Před 4 lety

    Great stuff Joe. All the info, none of the salesman type BS.

    • @CyclopsJoeVideos
      @CyclopsJoeVideos  Před 4 lety +1

      Yeah man , pushing one brand all the time to me makes other guys credibility drop to ZERO

  • @primsolllineguy8689
    @primsolllineguy8689 Před 3 lety

    Great Video!!

  • @AffordableAirguns
    @AffordableAirguns Před 4 lety

    FFP 💯 . Thanks for the info joe👌

  • @monkyshine5543
    @monkyshine5543 Před 4 lety +1

    Great stuff thanks.

  • @mattphelps7049
    @mattphelps7049 Před 3 lety

    Great info as always I prefer 2nd for hunting

  • @monkyshine5543
    @monkyshine5543 Před 3 lety

    Dang great stuff there, helps me explain to folks why I use second focal plane with 10 power from memory on holds.

  • @travisnokes2823
    @travisnokes2823 Před 4 lety

    Thank you for what you do.
    Just subscribed.

  • @eskimo1000
    @eskimo1000 Před 2 lety

    Good info and good laughs 👍😂

  • @79_air-arms-shooter29
    @79_air-arms-shooter29 Před 3 lety

    So glad I found your reviews … Luke from the southwest of the uk

  • @hew_pew_8867
    @hew_pew_8867 Před rokem

    Great video 🤙

  • @henrycems
    @henrycems Před 4 lety +1

    Great video, I learned a good bit. I am trying to find a good scope for my break barrel air gun. The one that came with it is crap. It is a 4x40 fixed. I am looking at maybe a lepers 4x9 x 40. I hunt squirrels at no more than 40 yards. I do plan on mounting it on the Diana shock mount when they get back in stock. Keep up the great work my friend enjoy all your videos.

  • @williamwasyluk4244
    @williamwasyluk4244 Před 4 lety

    Thanks Again Learned A Lot ....

  • @fredcarter7003
    @fredcarter7003 Před 4 lety

    Good information to work with.thanks

  • @Lucky_that_way_305
    @Lucky_that_way_305 Před 3 měsíci

    Video has a common sense perspective and explanation, well done.

  • @CplSkiUSMC
    @CplSkiUSMC Před 4 lety +4

    I'm a FFP guy. At any magnification I can measure a miss in minutes of angle (I'm an MOA guy too) with the reticle and make a very accurate adjustment. SFP scopes with holdover reticles are only correct at a certain magnification, typically the highest magnification. Joe says it best when he says it's all up to the shooter to choose the right scope for themselves.

  • @peteroncars854
    @peteroncars854 Před 3 lety

    Thanks for explaining buddy 🙂

  • @Greg_M308
    @Greg_M308 Před 3 lety

    Very helpful!

  • @dkindig
    @dkindig Před 4 lety

    Excellent breakdown! I use a SFP 1-6 on my AR's because the reticle is easy to see. At close range I use the chevron and the horseshoe (Primary Arms ACSS reticle) and at longer ranges I can go on up to 6 power and used the holdovers accurately. On my long-range rifle I have a SWFA SS 3-15 FFP mil/mil scope that I can reliably dial in dope with.

  • @VernonRoot
    @VernonRoot Před 2 lety

    Well done. I knew quite a bit of this information but I would have had a much more awkward time trying to explain it as well as you did!

  • @davelenertz5912
    @davelenertz5912 Před 4 lety

    Great explanation

  • @geoffankrett7012
    @geoffankrett7012 Před 2 lety

    This guy does know what he's talking about 👏👏👏

  • @christianpalmer8444
    @christianpalmer8444 Před 8 měsíci

    Very helpful video

  • @jjmelo627
    @jjmelo627 Před 3 lety

    Thanks Joe!

  • @paulandrews3785
    @paulandrews3785 Před 3 lety

    thanks Joe New
    Scope for me discovery is going think element FFP for me... great video s as always 😎 😉

  • @markkapono9769
    @markkapono9769 Před 4 lety

    Thanks Joe!!

  • @dangelini1137
    @dangelini1137 Před 3 lety

    Great video

  • @dragonrider385
    @dragonrider385 Před 4 lety

    thanks for the video/info.

  • @paulsimmons5726
    @paulsimmons5726 Před 4 lety

    I'm totally onboard with Door #3, I've got a number of low power and fixed scopes by Schmidt Bender, Kahles, Swarovski, and Ziess. You are correct about the clarity of the European glass. The fixed 4 by 32 & 36's are crazy good plus they're lightweight.
    Great video, take care and be well!

    • @allanwind295
      @allanwind295 Před 4 lety

      The weight (and size) you don't really appreciate till you lug those large zoom scopes around for a while.

    • @paulsimmons5726
      @paulsimmons5726 Před 4 lety +1

      @@allanwind295 - I'm through with lugging anything more than than a typical 1-4x24 Safari style scope. Anymore, my only large scope is a Kahles 3-9x42. Lightweight is the only way to go.
      Besides, my idea for hunting is getting closer than 150-200yds. I've seen too many "hunters" mess up at 400+yds, regardless of what some character post on his CZcams video... They never show the ones they hit but lost! Piss-poor hunting ethics!

  • @vaughnwesterby5162
    @vaughnwesterby5162 Před 4 lety

    Thanks for that! 👍🏻

  • @twoguncorcoran4733
    @twoguncorcoran4733 Před 3 lety

    Yes sir, heavy reticles are often overlooked but a must for a no BS hunting rig. The Leupold plex w/firedot is a fantastic reticle for predator hunting, 3-9X40 with a throw lever is perfect on an AR platform rifle. Subscribed....

  • @danhattersley6213
    @danhattersley6213 Před 3 lety

    Good shit dude, I've never really considered a fix power scope....... until now 😉