Richard Osman: The Untold Story Of A TV Legend's Addiction!

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  • čas přidán 16. 06. 2024
  • Richard Osman is a television host, former creative director of a world-leading production company, and the author behind the biggest literary sensation since Harry Potter, the Thursday Murder Club series
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    0:00 Intro
    01:47 Early years
    10:48 Knowing the impact not to see your dad would you act differently now?
    19:04 Being shaped more by your mum
    21:03 Watching the TV when you were younger
    24:11 Your disability
    25:58 Being too tall
    34:46 The 'Storm' in your 20s - your addiction
    45:16 Unlocking ideas from your therapist
    52:35 Why were you successful?
    57:42 What is creativity to you?
    01:05:02 How intentional is success
    01:07:06 Groups making creatives ideas vs individuals
    01:08:53 You wrote this book without showing anyone
    01:10:54 Tell me about your doubts
    01:13:54 What clouds did you connect to create this book
    01:18:49 How has it affected your happiness?
    01:20:33 What is happiness to you?
    01:24:22 Family
    01:26:40 Monogamy
    01:31:24 What is this book doing for people?
    01:32:55 The last guest question
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  • @TheDiaryOfACEO
    @TheDiaryOfACEO  Před rokem +313

    IF YOU COULD DO US A MASSIVE FAVOUR AND LIKE the video 👍🏽 By doing that, you’re helping us out more than you know 🙏🏽 thank you

    • @jayscouse0224
      @jayscouse0224 Před rokem +5

      Done lad

    • @teresaebbs909
      @teresaebbs909 Před rokem +2

      Always

    • @katesmith1534
      @katesmith1534 Před rokem +3

      To me, this is very much like making a documentary - without the fuss!
      I'm thinking about making a 'simple' documentary .... Probably be very basic and 'brutally' honest .... I just can't believe the way some people have been treated and yet they DON'T upload - 'their own story' ....
      I mean .... we all know there are certain 'stories' the mainstream media - WON'T touch! Even though they need to - because it is definitely in the public interest to do so!!
      It really means something to hear/read/see someone's personal journey .... Especially when they shine a bright-light on wrongdoing!
      Why wait for someone to make a documentary for you ....? Make it yourself!! x x

    • @leebranch1620
      @leebranch1620 Před rokem +3

      Damn. Don't mind telling you I'm only at 7:50 and crying. Wow. Thank you both.

    • @patriciamcgowan5831
      @patriciamcgowan5831 Před rokem +1

      Great interviewer .. clever , serious.

  • @GranTurismoRaceReplays
    @GranTurismoRaceReplays Před 10 měsíci +29

    In the early 2000s, I was a TV presenter, and for 1 week of live TV, Richard Osman was my boss. He is one of the most genuine people you'll ever meet. He is now an institution within popular British culture himself. His life story is proof that childhood trauma can make or break us.

  • @ccw5886
    @ccw5886 Před rokem +302

    What a lovely man Richard is. He's kind! What more could you ever want in a human being.

    • @philiprowney
      @philiprowney Před rokem +14

      I forget where I heard this:-
      "Those that carry pain know what empathy is."

    • @nickyjones2709
      @nickyjones2709 Před rokem +2

      @@philiprowney 💯

    • @bwghall1
      @bwghall1 Před 6 měsíci

      so why is he throwing mud at Nigel Farage, Osman has gone down as being a silly billy by doing so, his remarks are NOT called for. Take a look at yourself before you slag others.

  • @DodderingOldMan
    @DodderingOldMan Před rokem +514

    Not gonna lie, I had absolutely never imagined Richard Osman as having suffered any trauma, or having suffered at all, really. He always seems so well adjusted, so confident. And he always seems so un-serious somehow. It's easy to forget people like that are actually real people with real lives and complex histories behind him.

    • @carringtonlefayette8644
      @carringtonlefayette8644 Před rokem +17

      I concur with your sentiment 100%
      Australia.

    • @NaNa-by5pr
      @NaNa-by5pr Před rokem +17

      Me too! What an amazing man. I wish him Good Health and Happiness always. 🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺

    • @dewimatthews6037
      @dewimatthews6037 Před rokem +2

      Why would you even consider lying ?

    • @mandylavida
      @mandylavida Před rokem +9

      So true. He could be a therapist himself.

    • @eagle_eye_terry8750
      @eagle_eye_terry8750 Před rokem +15

      Completely agree, he always seems so grounded, humble, funny and smart. Tbh watching this has just made me appreciate him so much more to know he struggles with similar things to all of us. I wish him luck for the future

  • @leelyall8918
    @leelyall8918 Před 27 dny +4

    Richard, you are already helping and making people’s lives a little bit easier. Just listening to you gives me joy and your books make me happy.

  • @sarahh4458
    @sarahh4458 Před rokem +415

    My father shot himself when I was aged 12 (in 1983). No-one asked how I was! They asked about my mother, and I was told by one hospital doctor, after she had taken too many sleeping pills, that I had to look after her now (at aged 13)! No-one from school asked how I was; and yet ironically a teacher from my school went to my father's funeral! Other kids no longer wanted to be my friend. I was an only-child and had no other family members that helped. As to the question asked if you would like to have not had this negative event in your life, then YES, I BLOODY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE NOT EXPERIENCED IT i.e. My life would have turned out completely differently. SO PLEASE, IF YOU ARE A PARENT THINKING OF SUICIDE, DO NOT DO IT, AS NO MATTER WHAT YOU THINK, YOU ARE BETTER ALIVE TO YOUR CHILD, THAN DEAD!

    • @sarahh4458
      @sarahh4458 Před rokem +11

      @A. Fox Thank you for such a lovely reply; it means a lot x.

    • @sarahh4458
      @sarahh4458 Před rokem +11

      @@Threemore650 Thank u for your kindness It's really heart-warming that a stranger has taken the time to comment. Hope u have a good Christmas:-)

    • @audreywinterbottom5988
      @audreywinterbottom5988 Před rokem +9

      How horrible I hope that you now have found more understanding and support. Cruse is one further option. Xx

    • @dissol1306
      @dissol1306 Před rokem +37

      Wow, powerful message. Thank you for sharing that, but I am so sorry you had to experience that. I really hope you are in a much happier place now. I was almost the other part of your experience. I was married (to a fabulous wife), with two wonderful children, but I was planning to kill myself. I had become disabled (paraplegic), after having lived a very physically active life (which happens to be about the only common factor of people who end up with physical impairments later in life…not always, but often we have put ourselves in the position where we get injured. I had played rugby, parachuted, ridden horses and motorbikes, even raced motorbikes, I had been a farmer and lumberjack.). So when I became disabled, I thought my family would be better off without me, as I could not be that person I had been to them. I came really, really (scarily) close to doing it. I had it planned, and found that once planned, I was much calmer, as I thought I had the answer. I was days away from enacting this. When a friend realized or guessed what I was planning. Had he confronted me, I would possibly have denied it, because in my mind at that time, I had the answer. He just asked me not to do anything, and indeed I had to promise him that I would not do anything “major” as he wanted to send me something. It was a book about suicide, called something like Suicide; the final option, (not completely sure as it became a book I would happily loan to others, and it hasn’t come back. In it, there was a chapter about the “legacy” that suicide leaves behind to loved ones, especially offspring. Children of people who have committed suicide are 10 times more likely to commit suicide themselves as that is the legacy; that suicide is a valid option. I could not leave them with that. So, I had to learn a new way of living my life, and how I would interact with my two young sons, if hiking in the mountains, or such activities were not going to be an option for me. Instead I learned to play computer games with them, and bizarrely learned to properly talk with them. That was 20 years ago…still married; we celebrated our 36th anniversary together, and I am here to help her with her chemotherapy treatment as she was found to have Leukaemia earlier this year, after beating off breast cancer a few years ago. Both sons are grown up, flown the nest and are happy in their different careers, and I became a father again a couple of years ago when we adopted a teenaged girl, from a dysfunctional home. But I have to agree with your own message, and I am so thankful to this day that I had a friend who recognised what I was going through, and was I mistakenly was planning to do about it.

    • @dissol1306
      @dissol1306 Před rokem +15

      @@sarahh4458 I am so sad to learn that the warning in that book applied in your own circumstances. If you ever find yourself down that road again, then please try to find a copy of that book; I will try to dig out more info on it, or reach out to someone. I have lost friends to suicide, and the devastation that they leave behind is enormous, as we all ask ourselves how we should have noticed, how we should have done more… I am sure in each case where a friend did die, they would not have done so if they were to know the sadness that they caused us all. We all just wish they had reached out, said something. But, I know full well, that is not the way one’s mind works in those dark times. I am pleased to know you have a lovely partner now, and are more secure. We never know what life may throw at us. For much of the last 20 years it has been my wife to be the one sat in hospital waiting rooms while I underwent spine operations, and then operations on my shoulders as they wore out from wheelchair activity. But even that reversed, and I have been the one in the much more difficult supporting role, during my wife’s chemotherapy. I even administer injections for her for a week each month, as she is unable to inject herself. It is not enjoyable, but I am so thankful I am still here, and able to help her now in her own fights.

  • @CamMcGinn1981
    @CamMcGinn1981 Před 3 měsíci +3

    I've always been fascinated by Richard Osman. I've got to say, I absolutely adore the stuffing out of him after watching this. I hope the world has access to his amazing personality for a long time to come.

  • @judithbonnick3529
    @judithbonnick3529 Před 5 měsíci +4

    Richard Osman, what an amazing intellect, an amazing human being, I’m totally in awe.

  • @lilasfaves7846
    @lilasfaves7846 Před rokem +222

    So much respect to Richard speaking out about his shame of his shame… I’ve been in recovery from alcohol for 27 years and only just looking at the shame and how to re parent myself with a loving kind voice! I’m 72 and it’s better late than never, ongoing as Richard says. What a beautiful, brave man!!

    • @tonyves
      @tonyves Před rokem +7

      Aside from Osman, bravo for you viz alcohol - I know that ain't easy!

    • @mandycmorris
      @mandycmorris Před rokem +5

      @Lilas faves . Same with me 28 years in recovery at 64 and learning the same as you. Such respect for Richard too speaking out about his personal problems and so pleased he has met his soul mate.

    • @lilasfaves7846
      @lilasfaves7846 Před rokem +2

      @@tonyves thank you Tony! It’s a day at a time as I’m sure you’re aware.. they just add up 😊 it’s good to give back to society these days as Richard says.. 🤗

    • @BenjiB-
      @BenjiB- Před rokem +5

      sounds like you should dissociate with that label, congrats on your sobriety

    • @Bee-ly4gx
      @Bee-ly4gx Před rokem +3

      I’m always in awe of people that can recover from an addiction well done you should be so very proud of yourself.

  • @user-pg7sg5xd7b
    @user-pg7sg5xd7b Před rokem +50

    As a very tall woman, I have had people comment about how I look since I was 13. I find it strange that strangers think it is alright to just walk up and comment on how I look. I never thought of it as body shaming, but that is it! I was always embarrassed by how tall I was. I felt bad that I couldn't shop for pants or shoes like everyone else. Thank you for telling us about your feelings!

    • @jacobread9650
      @jacobread9650 Před 9 měsíci +3

      It’s quite ironic how tall women and short men experience a lot of the same struggles fitting into society

    • @EMMYK1916
      @EMMYK1916 Před 8 měsíci +2

      Ya, i get what you mean. I lost my leg in an accident. People point it out constantly, like I lost it on the way in the door. Some people 🙄

    • @fc7424
      @fc7424 Před 6 měsíci

      Try being short. The exactly the same.

    • @TheMockatiel
      @TheMockatiel Před 3 dny

      @@fc7424 why don’t you try being tall actually - because no it is not “the same” . Clothes and shoes being a prime example. You will never know the lasting impact of shopping in big n tall specialty stores as a teenage girl, but still not being their demographic. (dowdy middle aged people apparently). Or having to wear clunky men’s / unisex shoes to high school.
      You can hem regular things. Just ONE example.

  • @christinestromberg4057
    @christinestromberg4057 Před rokem +193

    What an incredible interview. What a brave man to do it. I was fascinated anyway but when he said "i"m not fit for this world" I just burst into tears because that's how I've felt my whole life. For various reasons but I recently discoved I seem to be on the neurodiversity spectrum, and in your 70s that comes as a shock, but one that sets you free in a sense.

    • @natureisallpowerful
      @natureisallpowerful Před rokem +17

      Going through life like you feel you don't belong anywhere or fit in. Uncomfortable, awkward and I wear my life like an ill fitting t shirt. I understand that feeling, hope you find peace of mind 👍❤

    • @christinestromberg4057
      @christinestromberg4057 Před rokem +12

      @@natureisallpowerful Thank you, I have found a level of peace, mostly by just accepting that I am different, and that I don't have to conform.. :)

    • @KatieM786
      @KatieM786 Před rokem +4

      Welcome to your herd 🥰 We have snacks! My mum was diagnosed at 62 and I was diagnosed in my 30s. It definitely gave us both food for thought

    • @janmitchell641
      @janmitchell641 Před rokem +1

      ❤️🇨🇦

    • @billie_the_birdie
      @billie_the_birdie Před rokem +6

      I was going to comment the same thing. I'm in my late 20s, exactly when Richard said the earthquake comes, and I've realised I'm autistic. Absolutely agree with you; on one hand it's liberating but on the other I can't help but second guess everything I've done so far and wonder where on earth I am in all the masking. I wish you all the best ♥

  • @janewiltshire4651
    @janewiltshire4651 Před rokem +75

    Richard is such a benevolent, emotionally intelligent and frank man with great self-awareness. An introvert with extraversion tendencies. Well done, Steven, for allowing your guests to really talk so we can actually hear. Another formidable and formative guest experience.

    • @giffgaffnettwork5626
      @giffgaffnettwork5626 Před rokem

      Real skill to allow guests to tell their story and interject appropriately. Many will relate to R.O. journey and his pursuit of happiness and contentment. Addiction is not always negative, R.O. made a fantastic living from his TV addiction and used his new found skills to sell an idea or concept to executives who so often forget what the guy in the street wants to watch or read. The HGV example is so pertinent, whatever industry or profession you are in and you have a passion, success will follow as surely as winter follows autumn.
      The art of RO is that he can articulate the emotions of his own highs and lows in a relatable and pleasant way. Breaking the cycle of his childhood and giving compassionate support to his children will prove to be his finest work on this planet and you can't monetize that particular currency.

  • @DNQFootball
    @DNQFootball Před rokem +51

    This man is an underappreciated genius. I had no idea of his contributions to Television until this podcast. His analogies and storytelling are immense. Great episode.

  • @baoboumusic
    @baoboumusic Před rokem +72

    Holy crap I was looking for a light hearted interview but this hit me much deeper than I imagined. Thank you Richard Osman for your deep honesty!

  • @honeyclark815
    @honeyclark815 Před rokem +313

    that last bit where he says 'if you arent being treated well its ok to quit and find something better' has really hit hard for me. Ive just taken a month out of Uni because they arent respecting my accessability needs and are treating me like shit. I really needed someone to tell me that its ok to quit that environment. so thank you richard and steven.

    • @thatslife13
      @thatslife13 Před rokem +16

      As a mother of my youngest child who’s at university, if she felt the way you do, I would say that you have to be true to yourself and do what you feel is right. It’s a huge cost to succumb to just to do what you think others expect of you. 😊

    • @Nick-po8cp
      @Nick-po8cp Před rokem +16

      Don’t let anyone run you out of the university you have the same rights as the others . Speak out and push for your needs thru this situation your experiencing. Wish u well and achieve what you have set out to achieve from university.

    • @SugarRayOPrey
      @SugarRayOPrey Před rokem +15

      Just make sure you find something better or the whole quote is meaningless. Don't just quit.

    • @rcaldwell7255
      @rcaldwell7255 Před rokem +13

      I've just quit my job because the new boss hasn't been allowing me to take holidays even though if I don't take them before the end of the month I lose them. Also she's just been being a dickhead about loads of other things. Felt like a huge weight off my shoulders so can totally relate.

    • @Nick-po8cp
      @Nick-po8cp Před rokem

      @@rcaldwell7255 Bit heard that for ages women can be dickheads too. Have a 1 to 1 with her ask her straight out what’s your issue my holidays are mine to take at my convenience so what’s the fucking problem ?? Hope u sort yah issue out don’t swear though be polite Iv learnt over the years working life is about putting on a mask at times so many 2 faced folk . Wish u promotion so don’t let her run u out of yah job.

  • @mnaus43
    @mnaus43 Před rokem +92

    This is my introduction to your podcast.....I love Richard Osman, which is why I decided to watch. I too have an eating addiction.....I had gone through a weight loss program run by a hospital in our area, in 2009 and sucessfully lost 70 pounds. I had my eating under control for 9 years, never realizing that all my triggers were just waiting to be invited to resurface. During the pandemic my whole mindset changed and I am back to my ill-advised eating habits. Richard, listening to you has helped me to reassess which voice I'm going to listen to....thank you!

    • @Jannie-
      @Jannie- Před rokem +10

      Good luck Mary , you can do it 💪🍀x

    • @lilasfaves7846
      @lilasfaves7846 Před rokem +8

      Likewise Mary!! We have done it before (congrats btw,) and we can do it again! It’s about giving ourselves love rather than rubbish food to comfort ourselves I believe .. good luck!! 🙌😘

    • @GWJUK
      @GWJUK Před rokem +5

      Good luck Mary, another victim of covid restrictions and not covid. So many people suffered so much but were denied a voice.

    • @spicyirwin5835
      @spicyirwin5835 Před rokem +3

      Vitamins, real 1s, & water & fiber with foods. I know all of these yet comfort foods like sugar feel so good. Eric Clapton said sugar is our 1st addiction when ppl said weed was. I totally understood SUGAR bc who can be unhappy eating choc. SECURE by Andrew Lessman Soy Choc Meal Replacement stops my choc craving or sweets. Alot of times ur body is craving something so maybe something like this could help u.

    • @nartarlyiatremaynne1239
      @nartarlyiatremaynne1239 Před rokem +3

      Sending you a hug 💟
      I found your comment very honest and giving.
      Thank you for being vulnerable.
      Australia

  • @ReeLuvsWicked
    @ReeLuvsWicked Před rokem +46

    Im a mum in my late twenties and I have struggled with a food addiction since I can remember. I love how candidly Richard spoke about it, everything resonated with my experience and it was refreshing to hear someone talk about it so openly. it is definitely an addiction but is never taken seriously. Its the 'nice' addiction that just hurts yourself primarily (to a point of course) and people always diminish it as not being 'serious' or real.

    • @fromthedumpstertothegrave3689
      @fromthedumpstertothegrave3689 Před rokem +6

      Richard touches on it but food addiction/eating disorders must be a total nightmare. Im definitely a believer abstinence is easier that moderation for addicts as a whole which is well and good when its booze/drugs/whatever. But when its something you literally need to live it must be one hell of s struggle to reach balance.

  • @wonderwoman5528
    @wonderwoman5528 Před rokem +109

    This is one of the rare Diary of a CEO’s I will be watching on repeat; my favourite guest you have had on the podcast. Every word is careful chosen and profound. I wish I could read a script of this interview because he speaks fast and his mind moves so quick it’s hard to keep up on a first listen. Richard has an analytical mind but is also highly emotional intelligent. He touches on the big trauma of being abandoned and rejected by a father, which sounds deeply sad for anyone to experience. I’ve been a great admirer of Richard, especially his kind nature, great morals, not to mention the razor sharp wit. It’s been an honour to listen to him speak. You can see why being a writer is his niché; he has found his calling in life, which is a rare thing, but justly deserved.

    • @MrNypdblue911
      @MrNypdblue911 Před rokem +4

      Could not agree more, his tv persona I gave a wide berth to, but this interview is incredibly personal, honest and so relatable.Brilliant Richard I had you so wrong and thank you for enlighting myself personally 👌❤both highly intelligent and likeable, same goes to you Steven you produce an outstanding quality of work/ your interview technique is warm, personable and highly informative, thank you....

    • @wonderwoman5528
      @wonderwoman5528 Před rokem +2

      @@MrNypdblue911 100% agree

    • @caroldonaldson5936
      @caroldonaldson5936 Před rokem +4

      If you click on the arrow to the right below the video the show-notes will drop down, scroll down and you'll find 'Show Transcript' option for the whole interview.

    • @wonderwoman5528
      @wonderwoman5528 Před rokem +4

      @@caroldonaldson5936 how have I been on CZcams this long and not known this? Thanks!

    • @caroldonaldson5936
      @caroldonaldson5936 Před rokem +4

      @@wonderwoman5528 I know! I use it all the time now because sometimes the dialogue is not that clear in parts and I'd find myself pressing rewind all the time. Genius idea!👍😁

  • @kerryclark7170
    @kerryclark7170 Před 6 měsíci +5

    I loved Richard before this interview but now have more respect for him after this. My grandson is very tall and I will now think of another greeting when he visits. Thank you Richard for your lovely honesty.

  • @MrMusic238
    @MrMusic238 Před rokem +14

    As a person with an eating disorder caused by emotionally neglectful parents and, for a living, makes music for film and tv , this was an incredibly insightful and comforting episode.

  • @MrsHuntontheTrails
    @MrsHuntontheTrails Před rokem +143

    This conversation has been a lightbulb moment regarding the impact of trauma. The ‘true north’ analogy was quite brilliant. Thank you.

    • @TheDiaryOfACEO
      @TheDiaryOfACEO  Před rokem +13

      Glad this resonated with you Judith ❤

    • @ilsley007
      @ilsley007 Před rokem +7

      @@samuelhogan1324 why be negative for no reason?

    • @kylesimpson8343
      @kylesimpson8343 Před rokem

      @@samuelhogan1324 You are the exact guy Richard references in this interview.

    • @wendyhannan2454
      @wendyhannan2454 Před rokem +3

      What a fantastic guest. So honest ✅

  • @liverpond1981
    @liverpond1981 Před rokem +27

    You said “leave the world a better place than when you came into it”… and I agree. My worlds a little better after watching this one. Bravo Richard

  • @carlschumacher7383
    @carlschumacher7383 Před rokem +82

    I’m 43 year old man. Ive suffered with a binge eating disorder since the age of 3. I can totally resonate with Richard. Thank you for sharing your story.

    • @hmq9052
      @hmq9052 Před rokem

      What would you eat in a day at your peak?

    • @FuuuckOffff
      @FuuuckOffff Před rokem +2

      @@hmq9052 He was eating a whole pack of jaffa cakes, it was dark, man

    • @hmq9052
      @hmq9052 Před rokem

      @@FuuuckOffff Dear God. I had no idea things could get to that stage. Imagine if he smoked dope too.

    • @MISNM0
      @MISNM0 Před rokem +1

      💛🌻

    • @Vel_Plays_2.0
      @Vel_Plays_2.0 Před rokem

      Taking the power back.

  • @nathaliedufour3891
    @nathaliedufour3891 Před rokem +27

    I feel for him. Trauma and complex PTSD haunt you forever , and every day is a battle to escape it.

  • @ElizabethWarrenYeahYeah
    @ElizabethWarrenYeahYeah Před rokem +12

    We had a boy at our school with the same condition as Richard.
    His was severe, but he could still get around and somehow managed to study. He was super intelligent and did fantastically well going on to university.
    I so wanted to ask him about his eyes, but didn't dare, as I was brought up by a Narcissistic mother who had it drummed into me that you don't ask anyone questions about any disability or anything that isn't your business.
    So I always chatted with Billy and hoped he'd tell me about his eyes.
    Billy had a highly developed sense of humour, he was cutting with his remarks, and anyone who thought they could bully him got a huge surprise.

  • @no-oneman.4140
    @no-oneman.4140 Před rokem +43

    I really hope Richard reads these comments, he deserves to know how much he is loved and admired. The most informative one hour thirty six minutes and three seconds I've ever had. Lessons for us all.

    • @reggiesmith3866
      @reggiesmith3866 Před rokem

      He looks 20 years older since growing that silly beard.

    • @imaner76
      @imaner76 Před rokem +8

      @@reggiesmith3866 who cares? His choice right?

    • @MISNM0
      @MISNM0 Před rokem

      ❗❗❗❗👏

  • @meeganerose98
    @meeganerose98 Před rokem +257

    So brave, raw and honest. What an incredibly interesting man ❤️

    • @jamesallen8917
      @jamesallen8917 Před rokem +2

      Brave ? Hes a bit tall ! Wow big deal.
      People make some silly quips about it wow big deal, there are worse attributes to have

    • @richardsandson
      @richardsandson Před rokem +25

      @@jamesallen8917 Brave to reveal his struggles, which aren’t just height related! Always a good idea to listen to the whole thing before you start arguing in the comments boss.

    • @jim586
      @jim586 Před rokem +3

      I’m not sure brave is the right word but let’s not be unkind. I would say generous is the best word to describe what I feel about him.
      I think he honestly wants to share the results of the treatment he’s received with the many that cannot afford it or who haven’t arrived at the point of decision making.

    • @csharpe5787
      @csharpe5787 Před rokem +1

      @@jamesallen8917 A bit of self reflection, would not go amiss!

  • @mollydooker9636
    @mollydooker9636 Před rokem +39

    This was one of the most compelling interviews I have ever seen. It’s made me look again at some of my own life with many similarities to Richard’s childhood. Fascinating.

  • @janswimwild
    @janswimwild Před rokem +35

    I love Richard, I love his presenting and his books. This interview is brilliant, honest and wise and I could listen to/chat with him for ever. It’s wonderful that he has finally found a romantic love that brings him happiness, he deserves it. He has not only survived his earthquakes but thrived.

  • @hablin1
    @hablin1 Před rokem +20

    I love this man, him and Stephen Fry I could listen to them all day ❤

  • @hk.70310
    @hk.70310 Před rokem +81

    what an articulate and personable man, glad he’s reaping the benefits of his success

  • @shannapascoe503
    @shannapascoe503 Před rokem +90

    My daughter is 10 and has had nystagmus since birth, I had no idea Richard also had it, I loved hearing about the world from his point of view, feel like in some way this conversation is going to help me connect to my daughter in a different way and too see the world through her eyes ❤️
    What an amazing episode and an incredible man!
    Thank you for this conversation 🫶🏻

  • @withwilk7473
    @withwilk7473 Před rokem +37

    Richard, amazing analogy of true north and slowly going off course. I am 29 and currently going through this exact thing. I've spent years changing myself to be accepted. I'm trying to find my way back north. Thank you.

    • @bigbananafeet8147
      @bigbananafeet8147 Před rokem +4

      Me too, wasn't it amazing how he articulated it!

    • @nartarlyiatremaynne1239
      @nartarlyiatremaynne1239 Před rokem +2

      James,
      It is my hope for you that you find your true North ♡
      Australia

    • @fromthedumpstertothegrave3689
      @fromthedumpstertothegrave3689 Před rokem

      Personally i think there's a balance. You absolutely have to be true to yourself, but I've found going to the effort of looking 'normal' makes life a lot easier. Not that I'm trying to say "just fit in and youll be fine!" far from it. But if through therapy or whatever you can tackle your deep down problems by looking like you're 'normal' you don't have the additional pressure of trying to justify your existence to other people all the time. And it really is just looks, people can be super judgemental unfortunately. Guess I'm trying to say find that balance between "Fitting in" and allowing that lack of pressure for you to work on those deeper issues which are at the heart of things.

  • @ajsctech8249
    @ajsctech8249 Před rokem +5

    Genuinely likeable man is Richard Osman. Really Respect his candour over his Traumas and insecurities and a great Help and Support to everyone who has mental struggles. Amazing bloke.

  • @s.o.7568
    @s.o.7568 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I love the fact that he knows himself and knows what people love/want.

  • @sussex138
    @sussex138 Před rokem +22

    Richard is such a personable and genuine man, it's good to hear from this type of person. I really enjoyed and learnt from this interview, I was engrossed throughout, thank you!

  • @oxfamshop
    @oxfamshop Před rokem +9

    I like Richard Osman as a television personality and appreciate him more hearing his back story

  • @ArranEye
    @ArranEye Před rokem +19

    What a wonderfully candid exchange by two lovely souls. Thank you both.

  • @sophiedavis7882
    @sophiedavis7882 Před rokem +22

    Richard has so many great qualities but above all he just seems like a genuinely kind person. I throughly enjoyed this episode and have taken a lot from it, thanks both!

  • @mikeb7224
    @mikeb7224 Před rokem +19

    Very powerful to see how someone who experienced trauma and addiction make it out of the other side and go on to great successes!

  • @darrylmac6150
    @darrylmac6150 Před rokem +10

    Mr. Osman just gets more and more interesting the further you read into him

  • @robmoon6442
    @robmoon6442 Před rokem +9

    Good lord….I don’t think I’ve heard an interviewer LISTEN so well. Bravo!! Subscribed

  • @notbloodylikely4817
    @notbloodylikely4817 Před rokem +196

    Richard always impresses me when he's on panel shows like 8 out of 9 Cats. While the other guests are snarky, cynical and sweary (not saying that's not funny btw) he always raises the bar with his gentle, positive humour. I've never seen him put someone else down for laughs. The nice guy of alternative British comedy.

    • @lindalong5052
      @lindalong5052 Před rokem +8

      I so agree. I hate all that "you are the weakest link" nasty,humiliation type humour

    • @neenaj365
      @neenaj365 Před rokem +1

      The nice guys meet ❤

    • @davidtomkins4242
      @davidtomkins4242 Před rokem +7

      He gave jeremy clarkson some stick on HIGNFY

    • @claire5752
      @claire5752 Před rokem +5

      What a lovely way to describe Richard....the nice guy of alternative comedy . Bet he'd love that. ❤️

    • @letmetellyousomething123
      @letmetellyousomething123 Před rokem +4

      Yes,completely agree. His intelligence is scary,not unike Stephen Fry's who draws you in without patronising you.

  • @bigbananafeet8147
    @bigbananafeet8147 Před rokem +13

    What an amazing man, didn't know anything about him, but what an intelligent and lovely human x

  • @iandettmer
    @iandettmer Před rokem +43

    This is amazing, I love how Richard is so open and honest and wanting to help others. The part where he says there are two people in your head and you have to listen to both but to give the good one more air time. Powerful stuff 👍🏼

  • @roseoconnor5938
    @roseoconnor5938 Před rokem +10

    Sending love to Richard....for coming through all your struggles that I too can resonate with family and friends. You are amazing...❤❤❤

  • @paulmccormack9623
    @paulmccormack9623 Před rokem +19

    This podcast is incredible. I have many similarities to Richard. Childhood trauma, binge eating, same age, taller than average, sensitivity etc. Currently in therapy and it's going well but I think this video will help accelerate it. I'm going to watch it a few times. So much to learn and understand.
    Thank you Richard and Stephen

    • @nartarlyiatremaynne1239
      @nartarlyiatremaynne1239 Před rokem +3

      Paul I am sending you a hug and wishing you a safe expedition into who you are. ♡
      Australia

  • @danwarr934
    @danwarr934 Před 11 dny +1

    Steven you are a great interviewer, perfect questions without intrusiveness. Kudos to Richard for being so open, a man of great character and integrity. Thank you, really enjoyed listening

  • @jeanninehochet
    @jeanninehochet Před rokem +36

    Having suffered from anxiety and depression I thank Richard for passing on his therapists tips. Being anxious about your anxiety is absolutely the way it is. I’ve read in self books about coping with anxiety and it always says just let it be, don’t beat yourself up and be kind to yourself.

    • @suemount6042
      @suemount6042 Před rokem +3

      Working on it

    • @nauxsi
      @nauxsi Před rokem

      I wonder if our anxiety would have the power they do if they were on a whiteboard where we can see them.

  • @jeanninehochet
    @jeanninehochet Před rokem +53

    I get Richard when he talks about binge eating. I recognise myself in this as I tend to binge eat, especially at nighttime. I try to not but chocolates and cakes, as I’m type 2 diabetic, and it works for a week then I buy chocolate. It is hard to change especially when you live alone as I do. Thank you Richard for being so honest.

    • @deborahbain9915
      @deborahbain9915 Před rokem +1

      Same

    • @amemelia
      @amemelia Před rokem +3

      Like Jason said, don't eliminate because otherwise you'll see it as "bad" and if you do "relapse" to sugary stuff you'll end up just knocking yourself down and guilt yourself because you craved it so much. Substitute it into your meals, my friend uses chocolate milk in her cereal. Must be worse because the diabetes too but I hope you're able to control your levels too, have you discussed with your diabetic nurse (assuming you have one)

    • @Jannie-
      @Jannie- Před rokem +4

      I discovered the Keto fitness club on CZcams ( they have a website & are on Facebook, Instagram too ) they helped me to cut right down yet still satisfy my sweet tooth Jeannie. Their recipes like chocolate brownies, taste amazing & are all quick & easy to make .
      You can even make your own keto chocolate from cream , cacao and stevia sweetener! 😋 ( I freeze mine , lasts a bit longer that way lol 😆)

  • @jonquills66
    @jonquills66 Před měsícem +1

    Two clouds spinning outside my head and then they collide - woah! That has crystallised the process for me. Thank you - so much makes sense now :)

  • @doctorjenny
    @doctorjenny Před rokem +14

    What a wonderful, brave role model! I am guessing many people will gain a lot of encouragement and even solutions to their issues, in this interview.I am 74 and have understood some of my own problems much better. Terrific and so humble and kind! Plus love the books, and just his personality as it comes over on HIGNFY and his knowledge and wisdom.

  • @jim586
    @jim586 Před rokem +14

    I think this is an extraordinary interview. Richard wasn’t just asked the correct questions, probing but gentle but given the time and space to answer.
    So many times celebrities are interviewed about addictions or other negatives and the result is that they speak only about themselves.
    There is a generosity with Richard. He seems genuinely interested in helping people who may not have the deep pockets or black book to receive help in understanding how or why they’ve arrived at a point in their lives.
    Excellent. Well done.

    • @MISNM0
      @MISNM0 Před rokem

      Perfect response

  • @aidan7413
    @aidan7413 Před rokem +50

    Him talking about food addiction is the first time I’ve heard someone talk about what I do in that way. I’m probably considered chubby to most, but that’s because I fluctuate wildly. Ive gone from starving myself to binge eating my entire life but I don’t think anyone around me sees it as an issue because it’s hidden. Sure I go from skinny to chubby but I’m never huge so it doesn’t seem to alarm anyone. I think if I told someone how much I quite regularly eat in one day they wouldn’t even believe me

    • @antwisindustries
      @antwisindustries Před rokem +8

      felt this 100% bro. I basically always grinded exercise my entire life so have been able to keep it in check a lot so people think oh you look fine, when in reality behind closed doors I have these huge binges. I hope one day I can get it under control.

    • @fromthedumpstertothegrave3689
      @fromthedumpstertothegrave3689 Před rokem +3

      Ive had chronic depression for years, and was an alcoholic/medicating for about 10 years. When you hear somone (i dont mean richard in this interview) describe EXACTLY what you've thought and felt its so fukin relieving knowing you're not the only one. With depression in particular theres a habit of being all soft/touchy feely about it but when you hear another bloke describing these things matter of factly you suddenly feel free.

  • @Hoops-Senior
    @Hoops-Senior Před rokem +21

    What I really like about Steven Bartlett's style is that he seems genuinely interested in the answers his guests give. The late Robin Day was like this and it makes the interview so much more engaging.

    • @lindalong5052
      @lindalong5052 Před rokem +1

      Ooh,I remember robin Day as quite abrasive or aggressive. This is the first time I've come across Stephen and he seems a much more gentle,empathetic person

    • @Hoops-Senior
      @Hoops-Senior Před rokem +1

      @@lindalong5052 Ascerbic but genuinely interested. It’s the genuine trait that I’m likening. 🙂

  • @clarecadman5330
    @clarecadman5330 Před rokem +8

    This country has so much to learn about mental health and the need to work through ‘difficulties’.
    The nhs would save so much money by ‘treating’ mental health in early days. We need greater access to therapists. What a lovely chap and well done for sharing 😊

  • @user-so7rd8cz9m
    @user-so7rd8cz9m Před rokem +6

    A very interesting, likeable and honest person. And relatable. I also think his (mostly single) Mother deserves huge praise with him doing so well in television and his brother in music for so many years. She must be without doubt be a very wise lady. Let kids flourish in what they love doing is the lesson.

  • @peteworthy8322
    @peteworthy8322 Před rokem +5

    He is absolutely right. I underwent a very serious trauma when I was 32 and I have never recovered. I am now 74. I survive, and outwardly I am successful enough, but I can´t say that I enjoy the successes as much as I should. I am too involved with and influenced by the failure, and the sheer injustice.

  • @snakychip
    @snakychip Před rokem +5

    Richard is a lovely bloke

  • @rosieHolliday5887
    @rosieHolliday5887 Před rokem +17

    I feel like I've never related to somebody else so much in my life. This is like listening to my life story. Mind blown!

  • @PlanetOloo
    @PlanetOloo Před rokem +10

    This interview made me cry because it was resonating with me so much. I shared it with my boyfriend to explain him what I was going through in my life. Thank you so much Richard and Steven.

  • @tiffer67
    @tiffer67 Před rokem +13

    A wonderful, warm & wiser person you'd be hard pushed to listen to than RO. This interview is also a fantastic example of doing great research on your guest & asking the right questions to get the most interesting, open & honest answers.
    Richard's childhood experience, how it shaped him & how he came to terms with it is something I relate to hugely, having had much the same experience. The due north analogy, as you would expect from him, is perfect in explaining how you have become the person you are. For me, it was going through a divorce, that saw me ask questions of myself & start that journey of self discovery. I'd have got there a lot sooner had this interview been available 20 years ago.

  • @markgriffiths409
    @markgriffiths409 Před rokem +17

    What a fantastic bloke! His take on monogamy is spot on too! 😎👍

  • @joeltham1979
    @joeltham1979 Před rokem +11

    Lovely man and I'm so happy he has found his new love. I love all his Thursday Murder Club books the best. So I hope he carrys on with them. 🥰

  • @ShankojamSongsForKids
    @ShankojamSongsForKids Před rokem +28

    Richard Osman, what a legend guy! This could well be my fave episode out of all the guests I've heard so far. Please bring him back for sure!!

  • @martyash4848
    @martyash4848 Před rokem +45

    This is the best one I’ve seen so far…. Very interesting man, spoke passionately and sensibly about his life… really connected with this one… 👏🏻

  • @kashkakent3511
    @kashkakent3511 Před rokem +10

    This is my third time watching this episode… so much wisdom and golden nuggets from Richard… Thank you Thank you Thank you 🙏🏻 🙏🏻🙏🏻

  • @peterbrown7810
    @peterbrown7810 Před rokem +8

    What a lovely, sincere man. Good on you Richard :)

  • @dawnross2514
    @dawnross2514 Před rokem +11

    My daughter is 6 ft 4 ins tall & is also very tired of the comments.
    What a lovely, sincere man & a fascinating interview. Thank you both x

  • @browneyedgirlgb1308
    @browneyedgirlgb1308 Před rokem +9

    Great interviewer, incredible interviewee. Honesty and respect on both sides. Thank you to you both.

  • @pdeb70
    @pdeb70 Před rokem +5

    I, too, am a food addict, mainly sugar, and am so grateful to Richard for speaking out. It dominated my entire life, all my decisions, education, the lot. I've finally turned the corner and regained control - at age 70.

  • @sarahpalmer9256
    @sarahpalmer9256 Před rokem +17

    Gosh, I’m a rare CZcams commenter but just wanna say thank you Steven. I’ve never quite been able to put into words why I binge and the cycle of shame it creates - I’ll be sharing Richard’s experience of binging with some of my fam and friends. :)

  • @jackclarke9209
    @jackclarke9209 Před rokem +23

    Thank you so much Stephen for releasing your podcasts every Monday morning without fail. As you've said yourself, it really helps start someones week amazingly. Richard's take on forgiveness and lack of resentment has been CRUCIAL for me this week. Just got out of a long-term relationship, so to hear those words from a genius whom I really respect has been extremely helpful and powerful.

  • @anthonymullinder1755
    @anthonymullinder1755 Před rokem +40

    What a brilliant interview from an incredibly self-aware man. The work he's done on himself is so impressive, but equally impressive was his ability to communicate these ideas and principles in a way that make sense. The "true north" concept really resonated.

  • @thedepthsofrepair
    @thedepthsofrepair Před rokem +16

    One of the best interviews I’ve ever seen. Thank you, Richard, for sharing your internal world. Thanks, Steven, for having him on.

  • @dougrose2452
    @dougrose2452 Před rokem +2

    Wow, just wow. Two utterly splendid people.

  • @worsfoldable
    @worsfoldable Před rokem +15

    what a lovely guy Richard is. Thanks for the very honest and helpful insights. It was a pleasure to listen to you talk.

    • @wendyhannan2454
      @wendyhannan2454 Před rokem +2

      I loved this interview, it’s the best guest I’ve listened too. Steven really enjoyed it and engaged as well. What a clever man Richard is. I intend watching this a second time, I rarely do that. I can’t wait to buy his book.

  • @sjm5198
    @sjm5198 Před rokem +7

    I could listen to Richard Osman talk for hours. Smart, insightful bloke. Great episode to light up my Thursday morning bike ride 😊.

  • @kbaker9804
    @kbaker9804 Před 8 měsíci +2

    I love his books, but I was surprised by how much I like him as well! He writes so well and speaks just as beautifully.

  • @GriffithsJacqueline
    @GriffithsJacqueline Před rokem +8

    My Brother is very tall, 6'4" & he was always the tallest throughput his school years. Most of the things you've gone thru, I see a lot of what my Brother went thru in his earlier years. I always say my head is in line with your heart. It's positive responses & make a joke of it, that's how he gets thru the comments now, he's 68 & gives great one liners. It takes time to overcome these issues. So pleased he has a good professional to overcome these issues. Good for you, I really do understand, I'm disabled & have had to use a wheelchair or scooter after spinal surgery. I've had to adjust to the looks, odd glances, it was awful for me years ago. If I was with my Mum or Neice, we'd go in coffee shops & the servers would ask them what I'd like, to which they'd say ASK HER YOURSELF! There will always be people who don't really understand. That's ok. There are many more that DO. I'm sure this has been an interesting time in your life & what a good way to share your experiences. What a truly lovely gentleman.

  • @natureisallpowerful
    @natureisallpowerful Před rokem +3

    Addiction doesn't discriminate. I have a new found respect for this man. It just shows that you never know what someone has been or going through. Only through suffering and adversity do we grow or change or die.

  • @iaindobby5345
    @iaindobby5345 Před rokem +9

    I never really liked Richard as a tv presenter, or was it just the nature of his shows?
    On the rare occasion I watched tv if he was on I’d flip to the next channel.
    But listening to this I can now say I respect him as a person, I value his transparency honesty and humbleness here. Glad too he wants to share with others, otherwise it’s ‘pointless’ breathing.
    Finally I want to Thankyou for your podcasts, soulful empathy and pathos always oozes out from you on each interview. May you grow

  • @helenelvins
    @helenelvins Před rokem +6

    Richard is inspirational, him having a conversation with himself is a very good way of dealing with his issues with food, even better if he could use hypnotherapy to not only speak to the part of him that keeps him overeating, but also to have the opportunity to change what that part is doing, and get the parts agreement to change and THAT will last forever if done properly. He CAN change the part to do something else that keeps him healthy AND FINALLY allow himself to feel free from the food issues. What a brilliant man and completely lovely.

  • @angelanorton5975
    @angelanorton5975 Před rokem +15

    This is one of your best episodes Steven! How lovely is Richard Osman. I totally get everything he said about being body shamed and the 'funny' quips people make about whatever the aspect it is that makes you different. I'm the opposite of Richard, being a shorty... It's actually taken me all my life to say that word about myself 'shorty'. I've had soooo many comments from strangers, family, friends colleagues alike about my height (or lack of) all of which I've heard daily. It does make you feel shamed and has a massive impact on your self esteem & view of yourself. I had to smile when Richard said he thinks about where he sits in the cinema as I do the same, only for the opposite reason. I didn't go to concerts etc because when everyone stands up to dance I can't see a thing. It's taken me years to accept myself and embrace what I can't change... 🤷. Great job Steven 👌

    • @lindalong5052
      @lindalong5052 Před rokem +2

      Haha. Yes,me too. I think when people buy concert and theatre tickets they should declare their height. I always seem to be sitting behind the 6' plus rugby players. Maybe shorties to the left, lankies to the right? We pay the same 🤣

    • @nartarlyiatremaynne1239
      @nartarlyiatremaynne1239 Před rokem +2

      I am 5.11 and it would be my Hearts ♡ desire to be 5 foot nothing.
      Australia.

  • @sarahbraysher8789
    @sarahbraysher8789 Před rokem +41

    What an incredibly open and honest interview. Thank you again Steven for sharing this with us 🙏🏻

  • @Elemgee1
    @Elemgee1 Před rokem +11

    Thank you for your transparency and pearls of wisdom Richard. I can relate so much to the experiences you've been brave enough to talk about. I'm glad you're now in a happy and content place. ❤️

  • @hotwheelsdavid
    @hotwheelsdavid Před rokem +3

    House of games is a show I watch every time it’s on . Its unlike anything else on TV . It’s a therapy session of kindness , relaxation and calmness . Being nice to each other in therapy chairs . While the therapist sits back and lets it flow . Sometimes just adding comments at the right time between questions.
    Not all guests get it but that’s unavoidable.
    Now I can see what’s behind the success of Richard . He’s just being honest and being himself .
    Thank Steven .

  • @mhtbfecsq1
    @mhtbfecsq1 Před rokem +5

    I identify with his joy of having labels for things which didn't have labels before, thanks to the younger generation confronting them head on and 'un-normalising' things which were normalised in the past. Hats off to them. And he's spot on about anxiety too.

  • @leannewarren
    @leannewarren Před rokem +19

    This is such an excellent interview & Richard comes across as so open, intelligent & lovely. Thank you for this.

  • @oem8530
    @oem8530 Před rokem +9

    Soo good when you stumble across people who are cut from your same cloth.
    It sounds like me and Richard have very similar personalities and have to deal with trauma and the same addiction and it always touches deeper when you have one of these rare moments that you feel you can be completely understood, validated and less alone. It's a like finding a little treasure everytime.😊 You hit the jackpot if one of these people happens to be your therapist and it's completely true how hard the struggle is to find the right one for you, but it does give you a little bit more hope that it's possible. 💪

  • @michelle_mitch_p
    @michelle_mitch_p Před rokem +12

    Such an incredible and heartfelt and honest man telling his truth. This has actually helped more than he knows ❤

    • @peterbrown7810
      @peterbrown7810 Před rokem +1

      Me too and good to hear Mitch D P. Sending you love 💌 #hugastranger

  • @dearbhlakerr6497
    @dearbhlakerr6497 Před rokem +8

    Richard is so well adjusted. We all know he's a genius. He has had the balls to own his anxiety and deal with it. I for one have less fear to deal with lifes crap because of this interview.

    • @fromthedumpstertothegrave3689
      @fromthedumpstertothegrave3689 Před rokem

      Get therapy, if you live in the UK its free. And go though the NHS cos despite the long wait you'll see an actual psychologist, not someone whos done a week long course on being a 'counsellor' .

  • @orangeandyoghurt
    @orangeandyoghurt Před rokem +5

    I've no idea why I clicked on the video, I don't know Mr. Osman and don't know the channel (afaik). What a great surprise! So much insightful, wise and relatable content from two complete strangers. An unpretentious, down to earth and utterly relaxed conversation about some of the most important aspects in life. This is amazing!

    • @gohumberto
      @gohumberto Před rokem

      I have the same problem with food. I'm overweight but not that much. Richard describes my addiction perfectly.
      I'm glad he describes it as an addiction because it clearly is. It's a deep-rooted subconscious thing, nothing to do with hunger in fact.
      My parents split up in the 1960s, before it was fashionable, then I moved areas and left my old school friends behind.
      Maybe, half a century later, that's still the actual issue.

  • @sistergamingchannel3844
    @sistergamingchannel3844 Před rokem +5

    The interview was great but the comments are so kind and helpful. It has really cheered me up seeing the kindness .the internet is usually such a nightmare so thank you everyone

  • @SuLawn
    @SuLawn Před rokem +9

    Wow, sometimes our truth hurts, but needs unearthing. Mental health to all.

  • @LeicesterTillIDieTV
    @LeicesterTillIDieTV Před rokem +9

    OMG this resonated with me so much. I'm 61 and only just accepting my foundations were so bad. And so true about a mask

  • @saffyre4083
    @saffyre4083 Před rokem +7

    Sometimes when I'm talking to that other side of myself that's trying to save me, I imagine I'm having a conversation with a good friend, and they are giving me advice. It helps me get a bird's eye perspective of my situation because sometimes it's hard to see when you're in it.

  • @alexandramkalinowski7912

    The conviction about monogamy was SPOT on. It's so refreshing that people feel comfortable to deliver honesty even if it's not what we want to hear or validating.

  • @AndyKazama2
    @AndyKazama2 Před rokem +4

    One of the very few people I enjoy watching on the BBC.

  • @jfurl5900
    @jfurl5900 Před rokem +9

    Being partially deaf from very young I can understand something of what Richard went through. I am twenty years older so there were no ways of even admitting that I had a problem. It meant that education and life were afflicted seriously.

    • @fromthedumpstertothegrave3689
      @fromthedumpstertothegrave3689 Před rokem

      I grew up/went to school when ADHD wer'nt recognised, i JUST managed to struggle though uni but now I have coping strategies lifes so much easier. Escpecially online zoom/team teaching. I'll generally do some painting off camera to keep the easially distracted part of my brain busy why the bit focusing on whats being said gives me a mental 'kick' when I need to take notes.