French politics reverts to ‘extremes’: 'It's a very peculiar country'

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  • čas přidán 9. 07. 2024
  • “It’s a very, very peculiar country and it’s not an especially democratic country.”
    France has “always been mad” says Robert Crampton, as he explains how French politics has “reverted” to the political polarisation of the 20th century.
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Komentáře • 64

  • @ralphsearing7892
    @ralphsearing7892 Před 17 dny +9

    EVERYONE in France says 'le week-end '.

  • @PerfidiousAlbion1815
    @PerfidiousAlbion1815 Před 17 dny +16

    Bit rich of us looking at the French so critically when our own politicians are hardly an example. The French have a much better standard of living and lifestyle and their education system and health service is better.

    • @eightiesmusic1984
      @eightiesmusic1984 Před 17 dny +2

      Exactly.

    • @GiantSandles
      @GiantSandles Před 17 dny +3

      Wouldn't mind having more or less as rich a country with better functioning public services where you get to work fewer hours and retire the better part of a decade earlier, sounds like a pretty good deal

  • @jonydory622
    @jonydory622 Před 17 dny +16

    Lol France is mad .
    But we are still in the EU .
    You got Brexit 😂

    • @heycidskyja4668
      @heycidskyja4668 Před 17 dny +5

      You say that like being bound in and surrendering you currency to the EU is a good thing

    • @jonydory622
      @jonydory622 Před 17 dny +2

      @@heycidskyja4668
      Didn’t the Uk kept the pound Sterling while being in the EU ?

    • @annepoitrineau5650
      @annepoitrineau5650 Před 17 dny

      @@heycidskyja4668 it looks liike it is.

  • @NewDealDem2187
    @NewDealDem2187 Před 17 dny +17

    This was an excellent example of ‘projection’ by the hosts.

  • @stuartmcgill2291
    @stuartmcgill2291 Před 17 dny +15

    Utter nonsense. As a Brit now living in France (South West) there are far more French who speak English than the other way around. Also, how come they have STOP signs on their roads, if they object to using English? I have also just had a visit from my cleaner, who wished me a "Bon Weekend" !
    I normally enjoy a debate on this channel, but this is risible.

    • @jonydory622
      @jonydory622 Před 17 dny +3

      True .

    • @eightiesmusic1984
      @eightiesmusic1984 Před 17 dny +2

      It is around 33% of French people who speak English. I spend a lot of time in Marennes and Rochefort. Few speak English there but there is no reason why they should, of course.

    • @catmonarchist8920
      @catmonarchist8920 Před 17 dny +2

      The Europeans all agreed to use the same signage

  • @nni9310
    @nni9310 Před 17 dny +8

    and which country is 'normal'?

  • @johnevans9391
    @johnevans9391 Před 17 dny +5

    A Lot Of Lazy Stereotypical Claptrap Talked Here

  • @jujutrini8412
    @jujutrini8412 Před 17 dny +3

    Britain is a peculiar country also. And our politics is also mad!

    • @ivanconnolly7332
      @ivanconnolly7332 Před 17 dny

      Britain leads in having children of immigrants leading racism against the likes of their own parents, perhaps they all have serious family issues .

  • @Tydan
    @Tydan Před 17 dny +2

    France is not mad. But our dear leader is completely crazy for sure.

    • @annepoitrineau5650
      @annepoitrineau5650 Před 17 dny

      Yeah, Macron a perdu ses billes/lost his marbles. He is stamped (litteral translation of the french "timbre"=off his trolley)

  • @Nomadicmillennial92
    @Nomadicmillennial92 Před 17 dny +2

    When Right wingers talks about stuck up metropolitan liberal elite media, I think I know what they mean.

  • @jonnysmyth1011
    @jonnysmyth1011 Před 17 dny +2

    Centralist is not "right" because it is cenrral.

  • @ciarandoyle4349
    @ciarandoyle4349 Před 17 dny +2

    This video is actually the British weather forecast: Fog in channel ...

    • @annepoitrineau5650
      @annepoitrineau5650 Před 17 dny +1

      Yeah, the continent is cut off. Britain continues and advances civilisation, but the continent is cut off. lol.

  • @anatolydyatlov5196
    @anatolydyatlov5196 Před 17 dny +7

    I would say voting tactically to keep the fascist out is pretty sensible

    • @chadvader974
      @chadvader974 Před 17 dny +3

      and yet, the hard left protestors are destroying Paris and you call Le Pen a fascist. Get out of your echo chamber.

    • @anatolydyatlov5196
      @anatolydyatlov5196 Před 17 dny

      @@chadvader974 it was found by a member of THE SS and a Holocaust denier and your trying to argue they aren't fascist?

    • @anatolydyatlov5196
      @anatolydyatlov5196 Před 17 dny +1

      Go look up who founded the National Rally (Front National)

    • @GiantSandles
      @GiantSandles Před 17 dny

      @@chadvader974 The way you numpties go on about people 'destroying' cities it's a wonder there are any left, New York must have been 'destroyed' about 100 times over the past five years

  • @timwoodger7896
    @timwoodger7896 Před 17 dny +2

    Our neoliberal politics is going the same way 😂😂
    National socialist to the right
    Democratic socialist to the left and the corporate socialist desperately hanging on to an ever failing ideology in the middle. Which way will it swing?
    Will it be the end of the fiat currency or will the democratic socialist takeover and use it to benefit the people instead of the corporations? Or will the corporate socialist manage to keep the steady decline going for another ten years??

    • @drakethesnek6429
      @drakethesnek6429 Před 17 dny

      When has socialism ever benefitted the people, let alone democratic socialism?
      Also, national rally are not national socialists. They're centrists who believe in strong immigration laws.

  • @galacticambitions1277
    @galacticambitions1277 Před 17 dny +6

    France has the most MacDonalds of any country in the world outside of the USA.

    • @ivanconnolly7332
      @ivanconnolly7332 Před 17 dny +3

      They love the French fries and hate cinnamon in the apple pastry thing.

  • @robinstevenson6690
    @robinstevenson6690 Před 17 dny +1

    The French President is only "king-like" in VERY limited respects. The National Assembly is as powerful as the House of Commons is. Maybe more powerful, because their PM (if from a different party) is MORE powerful than the President.
    True, the French President appoints the PM, but the National Assembly can reject it and put in their own PM.
    Macron is in a very weak position as far as assembling a gov't is concerned, because he has a small minority, and a vote of no confidence could very easily eliminate any gov't he proposes.
    Also, there is no French King to bother with, and the French Senate is as weak as the House of Lords.
    Macron's only option is to put together a gov't that can get majority support, and that means making a thousand compromises.

  • @WSEDT-re6mn
    @WSEDT-re6mn Před 17 dny +1

    This "debate" is a load of tosh.

  • @robinstevenson6690
    @robinstevenson6690 Před 17 dny

    Thankfully, there is a "rule of law" in the UK. ....or is there, really? The courts served at the pleasure of the Tories for years.

  • @robinstevenson6690
    @robinstevenson6690 Před 17 dny +1

    Putting the French down is fun and games for y'all, but it comes across as a mean-spirited British superiority complex. A lot of laughter in this chat, but I found it rather distasteful and not the least bit profound. Full of stereotypes.

  • @jonnysmyth1011
    @jonnysmyth1011 Před 17 dny +2

    Define "extreme"

    • @markmierzejewski9534
      @markmierzejewski9534 Před 17 dny

      In the states. You would think extreme would be attacking the capitol over a joke who chose not to accept the election.
      To these people its every other excuse except for what it really was. Treason.

    • @heliotropezzz333
      @heliotropezzz333 Před 17 dny +1

      Either end of the political spectrum with anti-democratic tendencies and not inclined to compromise.

  • @annepoitrineau5650
    @annepoitrineau5650 Před 17 dny +1

    I beg your pardon. You cannot say le weekend? everybody says le weekend.
    You analysis of france goes between acute to bonkers. The problem is, people listening to you won't know which is which.
    But in the end. We defeated fascism. We do not want some things which are now proven to be bad, and do as much as we can to achieve that goal.
    Pitfalls of french property ownership? What about leasehold in the UK? What about the average Uk person not wanting to listen to a song whose words they do not understand, while the French, like most of Europe, are happy with music whose words they do not understand.
    The french expect you to speak French...The brits do not expect you to speak English, do they??
    French are happy parents. Somebody on your pannel said the French are rude to their kids. Really? Please explain because I have not experienced or witnessed that.

  • @louisdaillencourt2454
    @louisdaillencourt2454 Před 15 dny

    French living in Britain for 23 years. Very critical of my own country. Invite me next time instead of putting out the most basic drivel. The level of ignorance and self satisfaction is off the charts. Very poor from what is usually a good channel.

  • @ivanconnolly7332
    @ivanconnolly7332 Před 17 dny

    Philosophy as part of the school curriculum hasn't panned out too good.

    • @annepoitrineau5650
      @annepoitrineau5650 Před 17 dny +2

      I completely, but completely disagree. I think the UK should have philosophy on the curriculum. There are debating classes, not bad, but in order to debate you need to learn about ideas (No need to espouse them) and the thoughts movements which agitated the world. The result of not doing philosophy but having debating classes is: ideas are not properly argued, and the vaccum is filled with jokes. Humour is a great thing, but it is not enough.

  • @robertcreighton4635
    @robertcreighton4635 Před 17 dny +4

    'The french are revolting'
    Me 'i know they dont wash and eat snails'

  • @user-dw3hl4sh2w
    @user-dw3hl4sh2w Před 17 dny +1

    The average clueless Remainer knows little about French history and the country's historical animosity towards England. They assume bigots made it up. France has been on the verge of a nervous breakdown for some time. De Gaulle came to power in a coup in 1958 and was a de facto dictator. De Gaulle never forgave Britain for the Fashoda Incident of1898 which nobody in Britain remembers. The news channel France 24 mentioned Fashoda recently when discussing Anglo-French relations, so it must still be a sore issue for the French elite. The French have been good at dragging the British elite into their wars, so we should watch out.

    • @annepoitrineau5650
      @annepoitrineau5650 Před 17 dny +2

      I am French, and I had to look up Fashoda.
      On the other hand, I have had a few Brits throw Napoleon back at me, as well as tell me that the French were cowards during WW1 and WW2.
      My late partner, the love of my life was British. I have been living here for 23 years. There are a lot of ties between France and the UK. To me they seem like members of the same family who like each other a lot, but can't help bickering over old family stuff.