Umarex HK MK23 GBB
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- čas přidán 7. 10. 2022
- There are only two versions in the world of airsoft of the HK MK23, there is the TM none blowback which includes the clones of this by ASG and Novritsch. This the only Gas Blowback and officially licenced version by Umarex with only a few made each year this truly is a rare piece.
Hello, and 1000 thanks for this video, full of good infos, in plain understandable english, and without psycadelic stupid back ''music''/sounds. I am 59 y/o now, love technical toys, specialy replica guns. Where I live it is complicated to own a 6mms replica without being an airsoft player, wich is my case. I do not intent to play airsoft, I just want to collect some realistic replica guns, and they never leave my place, but here it is impossible ... I must thanks to your other viewers that wrote their comments here. I wish I could buy this very model in Spain of France if I knew where. I have a thing for japanese replicas but with the exception of TM and maybe sometimes KSC I did never saw others here... This one is so realistic!!! I never saw the real steel so far, but I got many pictures here to compare!! I will watch all your channel, for sure!!
i saw the name of your channel and i fell out of my dan chair. im a 48 year old man child so this is right up my alley. thank you for being a normal human and some goof who thinks he's with seal team six. im going to go back and watch your que. it so refreshing to hear somebody tell the truth not bullshit cuz they're scared nobody will send them a free TM cuz they made some comment. J.C. !! keep up the content mate. cheers
In Germany we had only the KWA Version with Magnesium Slide and white Markings ~ 10 Years ago, out of Stock since Years. Yours looks great👍
His version is KSC.....look for almost green lower.....slide is plastic on ksc and with deep engrave letters....kwa is magnesium and white lasers.....this is probably custom slide if it is alu
Is it made for GIANTS?
The MK23 blowback airsoft pistol is now back on the market it's called Custom Beta made by Matrix it's a gbb pistol I just purchased the KWA model
Looks like its NBB in reality.
im an umarex fan. they only do licensed pistols. all 5 of my pistols are umarex or elite force. that extractor is probably better that what they use on the g19. these H&k replicas are pretty dead on my 45c and uspc and fantastic toys. i wasnt very familiar with this model but for a full frame pistol its very good looking. im going to my airsoft store tomorrow. they have a couple on head. much obliged
dude they're ksc. what you're saying is equal to "i love ASG" oo and "cybergun!" lol
back when KWA made their guns (I believe they set up a factory right inside the states) however their guns were equal to cybergun who ALSO at the time not only owned almost every trade rights out there but also made shit guns. in 2005 everyone knew to stay tf away from KWA, CYMA. and Cybbergun - but KWA and especially cybergun are now good products because KSC and VFC have always been high quality, full metal licensed version's of essentially TM level gun's.
Cyma just progressively and very slowlu got slightly better over the past 18 years and cut their prices in half which is why you see lots of em
@@SecretKnowledge_IKnowTooMuch my for elite force umarex are vfc made.asg and cyberpunk suck my balls. We glockenspiel are OK because they're 2/3 the price and I will not go TM because I refuse to by an all plastic pistol the elite force feels as close to my glockenspiel as an airsoft pistol can be beside the ghk. Thanks for being passionate bro not enough of that shit these days. Cheers
@@SecretKnowledge_IKnowTooMuch my kwa m11a1 is the most stupid airsoft toy out there. It's got to be lubed perfect the nozzles break and mags don't last long but when it does work that 1 out of times it's totally worth it. The enjoyment I get from a mac11 mag dump makes me not care that it's such a batch to get right. Ksc is the pretty much same 🤔
@@gregoryfranks7347 what on earth does this have to do with anything in my post?
Never understand why they wont mass produce these, such much gun and such much cool.
Hi there, It certainly would they recently released the co2 versions in a few different colours. If your setup is co2, then it's awesome. Hopefully, umarex can bring out the standard model again.
@@MiddleAgeGameruk Seems promising, a gas version with 1joule would be a dream, here in germanyland pistols cant be above 1joule ( field regulations not law)
P.s.
actually nice you commented back, even for an old video. Thx!
sorry about spewing comments. i dont comment unless its something that really tickles my pickle. this is a video that i actually learned couple things i didnt know. you mentioned outer barrels. i am not a fan of my outer sticking out of my slide. do you know if they make metal outer barrels for others like the 45c or a walther ppq. if you know id be grateful. i found the uspc rail mounts to expensive. so i took a m-lok picatinny segment cut it to the lenght then spent couple hours shaping the bottom to meet the curves then cemeted over the serial #. you just need to make sure you check your lights and lasers because not all will fit or meet notches on the weaver. excellent eview im actually going to check its center fire father. im looking for a second home defense tool. again aces my friend. please keep any content coming when you can. cheers
Thank you for the kindness hope you continue to enjoy the content.
Not only 2 versions, KSC has another one, newer than KWA's and worst, sadly.
Could you share a link with the store you got it from?
There is www.wgcshop.com bust they are out of stock. If you want it here in the UK you can try A2 supply's. If you call and ask they could try to get you one.
So real steel under barrel rails will fit this gun?
Hi there, yes as the dimensions are 1 to 1 to the real steel.
Its a dream of mine to have this version, i have the TM one and i do enjoy a lot, but i wish i could own the KWA and use the suppressor and LAM on it from the TM one... but in brazil its impossible to have this version. its really a shame
I'm sorry to hear about the rules in Brazil. The Umarex mk23 is a phenomenal side arm.
@@MiddleAgeGameruk I can only imagine and hope onde day its possible to have here.
But videos like this makes me really glad, cuz it confirms for me its exacly as i imagine it is ♡ thank you
I have wanted a GBB MK23 for such a long time but you can’t buy them anywhere anymore. I’m so gutted because it’s my favourite pistol other that the Sig M17/M18/X-Carry. Guessing you don’t know anywhere that these can be purchased from nowadays? Thanks
Hi there, kwa make a handful every once in a while. The best thing is to add yourself to the sites notifications list. Sites like Rainbow 8 or wgcshop.com will let you know kw when it's back in.
@@MiddleAgeGameruk thank you sir
@@SupeS19811981 If you still want one, WGCshop currently have some in stock
Hello, nice video!
My first ever pistol was KWA MK23, I loved this thing so much because of its real life reputation I went balls to the wall, had 2 of them, a standard one and the version with the complete steel RA Steel Slide set.
I really do hate to burst your bubble, but unfortunately this thing is absolute shite.
Firstly, this is derived from the KSC Japanese Made USP series which for their time were honestly excellent pistols.
The KWA MK23 is derived from the KWA USP type pistols (which are supposed to be an improved system from KSC) but the 'system 7' really is not that improved...
Just to name a few issues:
-As per your chrono segment, indeed its shooting very hot
-The hop system using the key designed by KWA is painfully bad, and will constantly un-adjust itself
-Despite the plastic outer barrel, the bbu design just isn't good enough to power the slide, and even with the rather large mags, they just dont send gas through the pistol well enough, you'll really struggle to power through a single mag in mild weather. (there does exist an aftermarket bbu called volante to the tune of £100+, but they were long out of production by the time I got around to it) and the slide in general is just made of a really ugly zinc casting with a poor finish
-you will eventually have internal breakages, namely the trigger bar and trigger (the disassembly of this pistol is the hardest I've ever seen for an airsoft gbb replica)
-the outer barrel lockup is also prone to snapping near the barrel pivot point
-the slide lock will eat itself alive, not to mention the spring is extremely easy to lose and not captive (unlike the marui USP)
-The nozzle spring design is placed very weird, and it can get stuck and destroy the spring
It still had some decent positives, like the frame moulding is extremely good quality, and the stock trigger is unmatched to any other pistol replica I've tried to date
I really really wanted to love this thing, but eventually I just had to let it go, and went with a Marui USP full size
everyday I pray that marui finally make a MK23 using their new 15mm BBU system
Again, not to put a downer on it but it still fetches nicely as a collectors piece,
but for £200 out the box alone these issues are honestly inexcusable.
Sorry you had a bad experience with yours dude, for me having a gbb version was the way, as the long dubble action pull of the marui and fake controls was just a turn off, my hop has held true from day one and I've stripped it down to swap to a short inner barrel for cqb many times now but still the hop holds straight. I will agree marui make good pistols overall 👍 I own several. I would love marui to make a gbb version of the mk23 but they never will.
@@andrewsnelson
Glad your experience with it is positive! Do still be aware of some of the other issues, but they won't come till you've run a good amount of bbs through it
Absolutely, the GBB MK23 was the way for me too, it was never unwieldy for me with medium size hands, It was so cool I couldn't ever picture myself using another pistol.
and yes that's an extremely sad truth, their NBB MK23 is still one of their best sellers, and there's not much need for them to bother doing a GBB as well as there being a demand.
@@Dizzyfatpigeon thanks for the comments, I have put a fair amount of rounds through it now and quite a few matches at my local site and its been a dream, I guess kwa have done a vfc thing and just made little improvements to parts over the years so now they seem to last. I think also the problem most have is the 3rd party upgrades people do to them like when they get a marui hi-capa and put a steel slide and barrel, mapleleaf inner barrel and hop bucking, new trigger and still 1 say its a marui and 2 when it brakes blame marui. Tokyo marui, kwa, vfc, ghk, you name it spend millions on development and we just mess with it. Other than me swaping the inner barrels around for wether I'm indoor cqb, or outside where the fps is allowed to be higher etc mine is still stock. If it dose brake though I will just get another, even if its just for me plinking around haha. Once again thanks 😊
Thanks for that review! I’ll go with the Marui. I just wanted a blow back MK23, but the Marui has everything else.
i'm sorry but there is so much inaccuract and outright false claims in this post that all i can say is: you don't have any idea what you're talking about apparently/
I'm gonna guess you've maybe been playing with airsoft for a few years at a stretcj bit likely less than 18 months if you're spouting THIS much utter nonsense. lol @ the "made fro the USP and their ns2 system *more words...dunno wtf im talking about...more subjective and personal experiences". The NS2 is KSC tech but KWA rebranded it as NS2. That's why you're seeing all new KWA's have "system 7 2" or system 7 v2. It literally says IN THIS VIDEO on THE PACKAGING "KSC/KWA" and then to top it off you say it's hard to disassemble. God I hope if you're saying this you're at least talking about the significantly easy slide and receiver takedown/complete stripping. You need NO parts NO tensioner's or tools other than a flathead or a phillips) except for the decocking lever and that is a small and easy spring to place back in since it doesn't work like most guide springs as they are extra long (unless they are similar to modern recoil springs on these newer gens of KWA but that didn't even start till like 3-4 years ago..
Do you REALLY think KWA was like "here I'll help ya out ksc! WE WILL make the guns, AND pay for the licensing with our geman partners at Umarex and just for kicks we'll keep your name on the box for old time sake"
Btw your issue with what you believe to be a "weak hammer spring" or "overpowered recoil spring" is what i HOPE you meant to say as the BBU play little role at all other than the type of valve it is. And any inconsistencies with getting a lemon can be mitigated in 1 minute using a gas key, some water and a metal file and opening the valve within the mag to be as open as possible (but if you or even anyone wants to try this please read how first or even I'll explain it if you'd like. If you file in the wrong spot you'll need a new valve)
You could also just cut a small bit of the spring if it's too snappy/not snappy enough as depending which way your describing this issue makes very little sense. All GBBP's are meant to fire 60/40 pressure (not TM or any other plastic gas powered gun that can take black gas which I've always ran in my KSC airsoft usp and the KWA/UMAREX .177 bb shooter being C02 with a stiffer spring that worked like a Glock gen4+ vs the way the MK23 is shown here which is how my old KSC airsoft gun works.) to the BBU and THEN the inner barel. (instead of saying nonsense like 'yeah kwa made the NS2 and the system 7 wasn't even better" when NS2 came AFTER system 7 v1 when KWA already owned the rights to sell KSC product's here. Without their trades and reliable and crisp BBU QC their [Japanese ver especially as that's the only KSC experience I have other than rebranded KWA products including my lm4 ris [YES - it TOO is a KSC m4 without trades because KWA is US based and therefore orange muzzle's are required meaning that there is no real benefit of even paying to license the trade's as it won't be a collector's piece to everywhere else that doesn't need an orange tip. Hence the LM4 PTR series. Designed for ATF and DEA and other law enforcement training weapons which were readily identifiable and distinguishable from bright laser etched markings vs engraved non lasered in trades on top of also having a bright orange muzzle). I think KSC m4's can only be bought directly from KSC's factory in Taiwan though otherwise you're stuck with the KWA with no trades nor any magazine markings and a few other cosmetic changes)
Does marui magazine fit?
Hi there, sadly no they do not fit the kwa mk23. The kwa mags are really efficient and a higher quality replica of the real steel mags, there also quite affordable at the moment.
Where the hell did you buy this? and how much did you pay?
Want to sell
I wish they made a silver or stainless slide
A stainless slide would be cool, I've seen people repaint them.
@@MiddleAgeGamerukwhat paint do you think would be best, matte or satin
That is dependent on your tastes my friend matt is nice but unless you have a good topcoat it shows fingerprints and stains easily, but done right it is nice
@@MiddleAgeGamerukI want to make the Silver Ghost from resident evil 4. It’s either a usp tactical or mk23 but I do like the mk23. I have silver spray paint and clear coat.
Leon's pistol is a usp, it has a custom muzzle brake fitted. Tokyo Marui are doing a special RE4 set next year. There youtube channel has a video on it. Its in Japanese but you can get the gist. You can follow there design if you want to build your own as they get it 100% correct to the 3d files from the game. I had there samurai edge.
Actually KSC has always made a "Taiwan" and "Japan" version, but then Japan made the metal slide's illegal (likely to boost their TM products) so they sold a large piece of stock to KWA who work with Umarex which (like HK) is located in Germany. The first GBBP i bought back in 05 was a KSC Japan version USP with Engraved TM's (not scratch-offable laser paint etching that was found on the taiwan version. But the taiwan version had "heavy weight" and "metal" version's too - it's just the Japan one had better trades.
Now that Japan can't have metal slides KSC opted to continue their factory in taiwan (thus they couldn't make their high quality japan varient anymore) so that's why they let KWA market their products. No different than ASG or CyberGun
KWA and KSC where alway s made in Taiwan (by Yih Kai ), KSC also never had metal slides as Japan was never allowed them. As of 2023 KSC now makes a Co2 powered version, still with a polymer slide.
H&K 416 by Umarex,it barely made 3 loads(2x3 CO2) and trigger wouldn't reset anymore rendering it USELESS...
Crosman is way better,my PFAM9B going strong specially on Full Auto...
@Sean Price OK I am now an idiot 🙄, thank you very much, Now explain why am I an idiot 😀? I would like to know?