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    0:00 Intro
    3:17 Boots on the Ground
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    18:56 Clearing the Wiretap location
    24:00 Defending Wiretap
    28:00 Moving to RON Site
    32:23 Getting stepped on in my sleep
    34:15 GOOD MORNING VIETNAM!
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  • @fuzzyhead878
    @fuzzyhead878 Před 2 lety +4706

    Virgin twitter user: “OK, Boomer…”
    Chad Arma player: “Copy that, Boomer”

    • @snowi9585
      @snowi9585 Před 2 lety +195

      True. I respect Drew a lot for respecting what people went through in their younger years, rather than the "ya alright old man"

    • @desertranger1095
      @desertranger1095 Před 2 lety +73

      Honestly I feel more natural talking to a vet than to other civilians.

    • @connorbranscombe6819
      @connorbranscombe6819 Před 2 lety +99

      @@desertranger1095 Vets are civilians bro.

    • @m00se37
      @m00se37 Před 2 lety +13

      I would go through a meat grinder if they told me too

    • @big_petebear8535
      @big_petebear8535 Před 2 lety +79

      Vietnam combat vets are the only Boomers that aren't arrogant and annoying in my experience.
      Totally makes you see how awesome the generation could have been if they weren't so selfish.

  • @00Athus1
    @00Athus1 Před 2 lety +5747

    This is straight up the biggest flex in the arma community.... SOG op with actual SOG members.

    • @j.sargenthill9773
      @j.sargenthill9773 Před 2 lety +98

      I think Arma is a little under celebrated in terms of what it's inspired in more mainstream titles; state of decay, pubg, dayz, and fortnite are just a few that are practically direct descendents of it.

    • @FriendxA
      @FriendxA Před 2 lety +22

      @@j.sargenthill9773 dayz is a arma 2 mod

    • @j.sargenthill9773
      @j.sargenthill9773 Před 2 lety +19

      @@FriendxA it is. but it is also a terrible stand-alone game

    • @FriendxA
      @FriendxA Před 2 lety +18

      @@j.sargenthill9773 opinions are like assholes.

    • @mixmaster1318
      @mixmaster1318 Před 2 lety +4

      @@j.sargenthill9773 I thought the same until I played it on ps5 now everyone just thinks I'm hacking lol.

  • @dfmrcv862
    @dfmrcv862 Před 2 lety +2735

    Soo... we live in the timeline where vets got to play the very missions they fought in during an actual war in a video game... what a time to be alive.

  • @tankacebo9128
    @tankacebo9128 Před 2 lety +1304

    my school bus driver in high school was an air cav pilot who flew UH-1 Iroquois (Huey) helicopters in 'Nam. hell of a transition, assault helicopters to school buses full of screaming snot nosed brats. he drove that bus like he stole it. never a dull moment, he had some awesome stories.

    • @b-52eggbeast88
      @b-52eggbeast88 Před 2 lety +47

      Love it! If he’s anything like Don he probably did (steal it)

    • @masonwright9000
      @masonwright9000 Před 2 lety +76

      I had a bus driver exactly like that when I lived in Oregon. His name was Tim and he was super funny because he had a dark sense of humor. He drove that bus like a madman and was always a joy to ride with

    • @therealslimshady3662
      @therealslimshady3662 Před 2 lety +44

      whats the difference? one is flying over the rice patties with a bunch of brats trying not to get killed, the other is flying over the road with a bunch of brats in the back tryin not to get killed.
      Same shit, bus driver probably gets worse pay tho

    • @yaboileeroy3038
      @yaboileeroy3038 Před 2 lety +36

      If you knew anything about the Army, you’d know that being a chopper pilot is pretty much the same as being a school bus driver. The only thing different is a chopper gets shot at and the bus… Usually doesn’t.

    • @GlitchedBlox
      @GlitchedBlox Před 2 lety +8

      @@yaboileeroy3038 Usually not... Not if you're in the US.

  • @theclassicliberal1915
    @theclassicliberal1915 Před 2 lety +6245

    Also I love that people in their 60s & 70s are playing this game. That’s incredible. Says a lot about how great the game is.

    • @tonynagy2042
      @tonynagy2042 Před 2 lety +89

      Cheers..!!!

    • @NZobservatory
      @NZobservatory Před 2 lety +367

      These must be the only senior gamers who can play in these servers and not automatically get accused of being pedophiles. xD

    • @joevk6274
      @joevk6274 Před 2 lety +172

      I knew a dude in his 70s who played GTA San Andreas.

    • @AHSValor
      @AHSValor Před 2 lety +320

      I recall ARMA is also used to rehabilitate vets with PTSD

    • @anhingathing2382
      @anhingathing2382 Před 2 lety +32

      @@AHSValor dang

  • @clifbradley
    @clifbradley Před 2 lety +2737

    My step-father was MAC-V SOG. If any of them know Edwin Thomas Holman, please let me know.

    • @alienoftheapocalypse2183
      @alienoftheapocalypse2183 Před 2 lety +279

      Did he know a michael ward? Rangers attached to mac v Saigon (if I am remembering correctly) .

    • @clifbradley
      @clifbradley Před 2 lety +385

      @@alienoftheapocalypse2183 I will ask him if you want me to. Obviously I'll see him tomorrow, but I'll ask now if you want. Rangers were attached to MAC V. My step-father was part of the Brownwater Army that patrolled on airboat and Mike boats. They dropped off Rangers, Delta, Seals, Snipers, RUF-PUF PRC's, CIA 'ghost teams' and ROK Marines for missions and then pulled them out when needed.

    • @clifbradley
      @clifbradley Před 2 lety +420

      @@alienoftheapocalypse2183 He said he did not. My step-father was in the Delta in Cao Lah as part of an A team Mike force, mobile strike force. If Mike knows anyone from there

    • @dad4life269
      @dad4life269 Před 2 lety +155

      Upvote this comment folks

    • @mysticisback1651
      @mysticisback1651 Před 2 lety +46

      Let me know if you find anyone, I'm intrigued

  • @nostradamusofgames5508
    @nostradamusofgames5508 Před 2 lety +444

    It's crazy when you realize there are less and less Vietnam War vets now. I'm still used to the 2000's when almost everyday I met at least 1 VW vet. Now they're either dead or too old to go out. Depressing indeed.

    • @SavageGameDesign
      @SavageGameDesign Před 2 lety +53

      An undervalued generation.

    • @israelthmpsn
      @israelthmpsn Před 2 lety +8

      Agreed!.. getting older.

    • @aaahhhhhhh
      @aaahhhhhhh Před 2 lety +37

      I still know a ww2 vet. A truly dying breed, he has amazing stories about his boyhood and teenage years. It scares me that by 2030 there will be no ww2 vets left. Cherish your elders and learn from them, trust me when I say that they usually enjoy tell their stories as much as you will enjoy listening to them.

    • @SavageGameDesign
      @SavageGameDesign Před 2 lety +22

      @@aaahhhhhhh yep I grew up in the 1980s, drinking with WW2 vets who were prisoners of the Japanese. They opened my eyes to the horrors of war over beer and rum chasers in the navy association...

    • @drzaius8430
      @drzaius8430 Před 2 lety +14

      @@SavageGameDesign same with my now deceased grand pa. Died in the 90s he's a ww2 vet and experienced the attacked at Pearl Harbor.
      Idk how he felt about Vietnam but I know how he felt about Japan, embarrassed I'm told. He saw anime and thought the nukes where to much. We nuked em so hard they went kawaii......

  • @hunterlacer9728
    @hunterlacer9728 Před 2 lety +383

    i looked up this unit and they have a 100 percent causality rate so damn near every single one of these vets were injured some way

    • @hughescrewchief836
      @hughescrewchief836 Před 2 lety +185

      Ghostrider Don Here; That is correct also 11 MOH recipients and I believe 66 DSCs. Incredible group of warriors and their aircrews.

    • @nuclearkamikaze
      @nuclearkamikaze Před 2 lety +49

      Best training, riskiest missions. Least likelihood of returning, biggest chances for glory.

    • @douwehuysmans5959
      @douwehuysmans5959 Před 2 lety +32

      @@nuclearkamikaze I've yet to hear a veteran speak about glory in war

    • @nuclearkamikaze
      @nuclearkamikaze Před 2 lety +29

      @@douwehuysmans5959 That’s probably why they’re called silent professionals. Don’t turn it into a sad boy meme, they’re not talking about with the intent you’re suggesting. They deserve as much recognition and merit we can give them for their sacrifices, fighting for their people and living through hell.

    • @douwehuysmans5959
      @douwehuysmans5959 Před 2 lety +4

      @@nuclearkamikaze Don't put words in my mouth

  • @theresistance6722
    @theresistance6722 Před 2 lety +3915

    These boys are probably having some extremely good, or extremely bad memories. Either way, you can tell they are enjoying the whole experience

    • @fiery_ginger7530
      @fiery_ginger7530 Před 2 lety +467

      Fun fact
      Playng war video games or airsoft/paintball help veterans deal with ptsd
      Not for eveyone tho

    • @Pre.C_King
      @Pre.C_King Před 2 lety +118

      Probably both :) Being deployed and in an active zone makes bond like nowhere else.. And is often with experiences most would prefer never having. :P

    • @DeadLegMedia
      @DeadLegMedia Před 2 lety +109

      Both. The best stories I’ve got are also from the worst stories I’ve ever experienced. Life’s simpler when all you have to do is wake up, don’t die, keep the man on your left and right alive, and sleep.

    • @bobbyb4024
      @bobbyb4024 Před 2 lety +24

      @@sublimelove23 They are kind of crazy and psychotic but they have a lot of admirable qualities

    • @sublimelove23
      @sublimelove23 Před 2 lety +45

      @@bobbyb4024 lets face it, for those jobs in the military you have to be kind of psychotic. Well educated, good leadership qualities, superhuman drive, and alotta crazy

  • @DavidVanmeterDutch
    @DavidVanmeterDutch Před 2 lety +1106

    A major general?? And chopper pilot from the actual time and missions! I am actually a bit speechless on this. Amazing!

    • @homus45
      @homus45 Před 2 lety +2

      EGG BEAST is a designer of the game

    • @b-52eggbeast88
      @b-52eggbeast88 Před 2 lety +8

      @@homus45 i have never described myself as one. I designed the game.

  • @jaw0449
    @jaw0449 Před 2 lety +100

    MACV/SOG was a scary (badass) unit. I had the pleasure of knowing a couple growing up who greatly influenced my career in the Army

    • @JB-pp1kt
      @JB-pp1kt Před 2 lety

      Apparently they had a 100% death rate. The most dangerous job in the history of planet earth

    • @MalikShaunte
      @MalikShaunte Před 9 měsíci +4

      Yes they are.. And the blueprint for modern SF outside of SAS..

  • @Briselance
    @Briselance Před 2 lety +78

    Playing ArmA with with Vietnam vets is already something. But with one of them being a former major-general? Man, that's... insane.

    • @thestaubmob6877
      @thestaubmob6877 Před 7 měsíci +6

      He is the very model of a former major general

  • @camerinbrummett6511
    @camerinbrummett6511 Před 2 lety +1226

    The story about the NVA soldier grabbing his buddy's boot was crazy, I was leaning forward into my speakers to make sure I could hear every word. What a wild experience that must have been

    • @okforsureguy6668
      @okforsureguy6668 Před 2 lety +108

      John Stryker Myer was the man whos boot was grabbed, hes done plenty of interviews if you're interested. Highly recommend his appearances on Jockos podcast.

    • @alexcaswell5478
      @alexcaswell5478 Před 2 lety +79

      John started his own podcast as well - "SOGCast". He's been at it for a short while now, interviewing various SOG members for their experiences/memories. If you want more insane SOG stories, definitely check it out. I highly recommend

    • @b-52eggbeast88
      @b-52eggbeast88 Před 2 lety +17

      @@alexcaswell5478 John aka Tilt is in our game along with wild carrot and el cid

    • @hughescrewchief836
      @hughescrewchief836 Před 2 lety +36

      @@alexcaswell5478 Ghostrider Don Here; Jocko and Tilt's SOGCast #7 if you want to here about the 195th AHC Aviators. Who received one Silver Star and 8 Distinguished Flying Crosses extracting a SOG recon team and Hatched force about to be over run. Oh and with a Typhoon striking Vietnam and Cambodia. As Tilt says "just another day in SOG."

    • @alexcaswell5478
      @alexcaswell5478 Před 2 lety +18

      @@hughescrewchief836 Hi Don! I've absolutely listened to your episode. You had some incredible stories to share; thank you for taking the time to do that. I know I speak for many when I say how honored we are to hear from folks like you. I can only begin to imagine what it was like. Truly hardcore men!

  • @canadianwardog7118
    @canadianwardog7118 Před 2 lety +741

    This is therapy for most veterans, this is actually good for mental health, at the end of the day nobody gets hurt, there are laughs and they get to do something that they enjoy.

    • @bombomos
      @bombomos Před 2 lety +13

      That's a good way to look at it

    • @joneli5888
      @joneli5888 Před 2 lety +135

      @@bombomos Getting to re-live your trauma in a way that you can enjoy and control are actually good coping mechanisms.

    • @scruggs6633
      @scruggs6633 Před 2 lety +42

      @@joneli5888 Even reliving trauma in a way that you can't control, just in a repetitive movie type experience, is a way that they try to "desensitize" people to their triggers sometimes.

    • @combativeThinker
      @combativeThinker Před 2 lety +54

      @@scruggs6633
      Exposure therapy.

    • @antoniorizea2104
      @antoniorizea2104 Před 2 lety

      @@combativeThinker Exactly.

  • @greghoyt4061
    @greghoyt4061 Před 2 lety +89

    When you take a moment to think about it, this is actually pretty amazing. Even with the inherent limitations of a game, having actual SOG operators playing along with this group and providing commentary and giving instructions provides a more in-depth and immersive experience than any biography or podcast appearance ever could. It’s incredibly surreal.

    • @b-52eggbeast88
      @b-52eggbeast88 Před 2 lety +9

      Well said. That was our goal in making the dlc with them

  • @goose5718
    @goose5718 Před 2 lety +70

    My grandfather served in Vietnam, and all though I can’t show him this video I’m sure he would be proud that veterans of this war are finally getting the respect they deserve

  • @thelonewolfvoice8826
    @thelonewolfvoice8826 Před 2 lety +742

    Man, the Maj. Gen sounds exactly like what you'd amagine a general to sound like; distinguished and mature yet still youthfully spry with an assertive tone, with years of experience you can practically hear. Love it. 👌

    • @nuru666
      @nuru666 Před 2 lety +19

      And the ease of command literally dripping from every sound the man makes.

  • @drippylegend8067
    @drippylegend8067 Před 2 lety +747

    The amount of honour drew must have felt was probably out of this world

  • @TheRealKjareFox
    @TheRealKjareFox Před 2 lety +232

    To any Vietnam veterans who happen to stumble upon this comment Thank you for your service and welcome home! Your sacrifice will never be forgotten

    • @ManiacMayhem7256
      @ManiacMayhem7256 Před rokem +21

      Sad about the POWs left behind though. God bless every one of them.

    • @ligma212
      @ligma212 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Stunning and brave

    • @ligma212
      @ligma212 Před 8 měsíci

      @@penguinpie5056 as an American (native) who is anti imperialism and experienced the cruelty of this system....this is based. Unsurprising the " anti participation trophy" boomers are giving participation trophies for these false flag wars

    • @cyclone8974
      @cyclone8974 Před 8 měsíci

      @@HerkNewz69
      Myth: The National Liberation Front which was the underground opposition government to Saigon, controlled the Viet Cong and prepared the declaration of how the South would be governed once the revolution was accomplished.
      Fact: The National Liberation Front was a front organization under command and control of North Vietnam. The Viet Cong were members of the People's Army of Viet Nam.
      North Vietnamese documents confirm that the NLF was merely a front organization and was under the complete control of the North Vietnamese communist party under Ho Chi Minh.
      Ho Chi Minh created the Viet Minh, an ostensibly nationlist organization, in 1941 to bring "independence" to Vietnam. The Viet Minh co-opted the real nationalist organization, the VNQDD.
      Southern nationalists were completely co-opted by the communists. Those who refused to go along were either slaughtered or escaped.
      The communists controlled or influenced violent action in the South as early as 1947 and throughout the period of the French Indochina War (1946-1954)
      The official policy of North Vietnam was to create never-ending violence in the South - assassinations, torture, rape and kidnappings - until the Southern government collapsed because it could not protect the people.

    • @MaxTeky
      @MaxTeky Před 8 měsíci

      @@HerkNewz69 communists got owned and pwned lolololol

  • @dd11111
    @dd11111 Před 2 lety +34

    I'd like to commend the emotional maturety and fortitude of these veterans and any others that can understand, accept or even enjoy Games based on the conflicts they took part in. And our morbid fascination and enjoyment with the stories and games that spring from the stressfull and often horrid situations and circumstances that these warriors had to endure.

  • @tylerbaum4236
    @tylerbaum4236 Před 2 lety +779

    My grandfather was MACV-SOG sadly he took most of his stories with him.

    • @joestractorshop8040
      @joestractorshop8040 Před 2 lety +57

      my grandpa would've gone to Vietnam, but he lost parts of two of his fingers in a lumber mill accident. im glad he didn't go

    • @randomjtf2op
      @randomjtf2op Před 2 lety +45

      My grandpa was a Viet Minh in the Franco - Vietnamese war, he got shot in the head but luckily he survived.

    • @user-p6-3561
      @user-p6-3561 Před 2 lety

      @@6pasa488 Not really

    • @motionlessr6345
      @motionlessr6345 Před 2 lety +21

      @@joestractorshop8040 a guy at my church was on a plane halfway to 'Nam when the war ended.
      I found this out when he was helping me put a net on my WW2 reenactment kit and he started talking about his own helmet and I was like
      "You served!?!?" And we started talking about his experiences and his father's WW2 stories and I nearly teared up when he thanked me for doing reenactment

    • @dominiqueglover4978
      @dominiqueglover4978 Před 2 lety +22

      My grandfather was a Green Beret in Vietnam but he told us very little about his service. I believe he might've been MACV-SOG but we're not entirely sure. I only say this because there are some missing bits of service on his papers when he got out and he also knew a ton of CIA guys. Bit of an enigma but yeah he took a lot of the stories with him as well.

  • @R3DNECK
    @R3DNECK Před 2 lety +596

    As a veteran, I'm both impressed and annoyed at your "I'm up, they see me, I'm down" bit. You've definitely played with your share of vets.

    • @b-52eggbeast88
      @b-52eggbeast88 Před 2 lety +122

      That was planning for the rooftop fight - as we were on green hell difficulty there were over 200 weapons trained on us on that rooftop. IDF an absolute necessity

    • @camoman132
      @camoman132 Před 9 měsíci +5

      Why annoyed?

    • @danielescobar7618
      @danielescobar7618 Před 8 měsíci +1

      I'm up. I'm home now. No one sees me. I'm down.

    • @balboboogins2511
      @balboboogins2511 Před 8 měsíci +4

      @@camoman132my guess is that it’s Drewski isn’t a vet and hasn’t experienced combat like those guys 👍

    • @muthaz1952
      @muthaz1952 Před 7 měsíci +3

      I learned this from my roommate who was a marine, and we used to get high, listen to music, play guitar, and he would tell me war stories. It was burned into my brain.

  • @vtechvsmile
    @vtechvsmile Před 2 lety +21

    weirdly enough my favorite parts of this video were the bits spent in total silence just listening. having real vets in game really makes you think about how fucking scary this must have been in real life

  • @mkms685
    @mkms685 Před 2 lety +30

    The way these guys plan their maneuvers in-game while in the Huey gives me chills.

  • @redratmtb9942
    @redratmtb9942 Před 2 lety +474

    Bro I'm not going to lie after watching this for 10 mins, I started to cry. I was thinking about my brother when he was still in Afghanistan, I think that it is good that the vets in the video are able to talk about what happened when they there in combat. Sadly for some people that is not all ways the case, when you start asking they just get up and leave or pretend that your not there or start swearing and crying. Sadly my brother did not come home, before he left we there sitting at the dinner table and he said that this would be his last deployment to Afghanistan . He told us that ",there was nothing to fear because I will come back, be free and have more time to spend with us." After dinner I was talking to him, he looked me in the eyes and said, " I know that your sad to see me go but this is the last time, besides when I come back I will take you mountain biking or skiing." We waved him off and watched him drive off into the night, sadly this was the last time that I saw him. On 26 August 2021, at 17:50 he was killed at the air port in Afghanistan. In the late morning we where told what happened, I felt ashamed, angry and sad. It hit me even harder when we saw him come back in a box with the American flag over it, to see him living then not was sad. RIP all vets that have died, been injured and injured mentality.

    • @forevermarked5826
      @forevermarked5826 Před 2 lety +48

      Omg your brother was one of them?! I remember that day, it just happened
      What was your brothers name? I'll look him up a d pray for him and your family tonight. I'm am so sorry about your loss, i didnt lose family.member but your story is similar to one of my bestfriends. His name was Christopher Wilson. His name is etched into stone confront of our local high school, theres a memorial. He was also on his last deployment in Afghanistan a d was actually also getting out of the army within few months and there are 2 different accounts of what happened 1. Taliban threw a grenade and Chris jumped right on top of it to save 3 of his men. And the other version is one of his own men threw the grenade a d ot bounced back and he jumped onto it to save 3 of his men. We do not know which is the true version either way to know my good friend sacrificed himself and jumped on to a grenade is insane but not surprised to learn he did it. He was exactly the type. So I can relate more then you kno friend. I cant believe to be speaking to a family member of one of the soldiers who died at the Kabul airport that day
      If u ever need to vent I'm hear friend., if u need to talk or anything.

    • @Comproleplayer
      @Comproleplayer Před 2 lety +40

      I knew someone who died at the airport in Kabul. We'd only met through a milsim server we both played on but he was a brilliant guy, made everyone laugh and was just a nice person to everyone but then we sadly found out that he was one of the Marines who was killed. My condolences to your family, I hope you're okay

    • @treetrunk159
      @treetrunk159 Před 2 lety +7

      Hey man, make sure that you do your best to stick with your family so you can help each other heal as much as possible. Don't be afraid of therapy because it'll make you all stronger and closer, and it'll be easier together.

    • @redratmtb9942
      @redratmtb9942 Před 2 lety +24

      @@forevermarked5826 Thank you for your support, I appreciate very much. My brothers name is Daegan Page, he was serving with 2nd Battalion, 1st Marine Regiment based at Camp Pendleton. Sorry for your lose, I wish your friend Christopher a happy rest. What he did would have taken a lot of courage and balls. Christopher choices to die for others. Again thank you for the support, my family thank you.

    • @redratmtb9942
      @redratmtb9942 Před 2 lety +7

      @@Comproleplayer Thank you, sadly all the good guys die.

  • @dhruvyadav780
    @dhruvyadav780 Před 2 lety +328

    Wow, really did not expected Vietnam veterans to play video games.

    • @toyotawitha20mm35
      @toyotawitha20mm35 Před 2 lety +81

      My grandfather flew in the hal-3 helicopter squadron in Vietnam and was in a naval helicopter squadron throughout the 70s and 80s, he plays video games too, mostly sci fi though, hes not into war games he thinks they are sometimes depressing.

    • @dhruvyadav780
      @dhruvyadav780 Před 2 lety +41

      @@toyotawitha20mm35 Ohh, that's very bad ass bro, thank him for his service on my behalf.

    • @jimmyseaver3647
      @jimmyseaver3647 Před 2 lety +42

      @@toyotawitha20mm35 Honestly, considering the things he probably saw, I don't blame him.

    • @b-52eggbeast88
      @b-52eggbeast88 Před 2 lety +8

      Its great to revisit their history in this more understanding age

    • @combativeThinker
      @combativeThinker Před 2 lety +1

      @@toyotawitha20mm35
      He wouldn’t like Battletech then, lmao. Centuries of nonstop warfare grinding humanity into a technological dark age as entire worlds, their populations, and all their factories are consumed in nuclear hellfire.

  • @RGMRT
    @RGMRT Před 2 lety +23

    Bro the atmosphere of this DLC.
    I live in east Indonesia and often when i was still a kid my dad used to take me along with his buddies to do hunting using air rifles in the forest JUST like these. It's not rare that rain started pouring down when we were in the middle of the hunt. This is just crazy.

    • @b-52eggbeast88
      @b-52eggbeast88 Před 2 lety +7

      Glad to hear we got things right. Atmosphere is everything in a game like this.

  • @foster7517
    @foster7517 Před 2 lety +112

    i wish people would make more games like this that rely on teamwork instead of battle royal games

    • @aizawa6562
      @aizawa6562 Před 2 lety +1

      If that was the case there would probably be 'camping' just like in real life fights and not a ton of kids just shooting out in the open lol

    • @DaveSmith-cp5kj
      @DaveSmith-cp5kj Před 2 lety

      PUBG is battle royale but there is a lot of teamwork involved even among randoms. You literally have to work as a team to get the chicken dinner consistently.

    • @TheONLYFeli0
      @TheONLYFeli0 Před 2 lety +2

      Left 4 Dead and its sequel aren't realistic games, but they rely off teamwork. When they were making the game they learned "we learned from our earlier multi-player games that while many games require teamwork, few actually require it to succeed" or something like that

  • @ITMeCE
    @ITMeCE Před 2 lety +145

    It must have been stressful since he’s, you know a major general… the other team had NO IDEA.

    • @fuzzyhead878
      @fuzzyhead878 Před 2 lety +63

      “Boy, I’ve been doing this since before Pong was made…”

    • @OldestHouse
      @OldestHouse Před 2 lety +32

      pretty sure the other team is bots

    • @b-52eggbeast88
      @b-52eggbeast88 Před 2 lety +32

      @@OldestHouse they were but there were so many of them on max skill… we do get stomped frequently - it’s always a huge buzz to make extraction

    • @justineallandevelos6491
      @justineallandevelos6491 Před 2 lety +6

      @@fuzzyhead878 " lemme show you how we did it back in Vietnam son!"

  • @DannyFPV04
    @DannyFPV04 Před 2 lety +2990

    Drewski…I’m a vet and would love to play this game with you. How can we make this happen? Let Rob know we need to do this! :)
    Good video bro

  • @ferallion3546
    @ferallion3546 Před 2 lety +53

    Jocko interviewed quite a few of these guys and what they did and how they think is inspiring.
    This is a awesome to see Drewski. Keep up the great work brother.
    This is the beginning of a new way of teaching history from those who were there. I think we'll see much more of this to come. This was my Dad's era of military service. During gun school training at NTC Great Lakes, we LOVED the Vietnam guys. They had a grit and humor that was unmatched and really reminded us of the WWII vets.

    • @SavageGameDesign
      @SavageGameDesign Před 2 lety +3

      Thanks - i think you understood the point of making our game completely - DOL :)

  • @kellynolen498
    @kellynolen498 Před 2 lety +34

    my grandpa was in the 75th infantry (airborne rangers)
    he got a silver,bronze and a purple heart and if the stories are true he would have gotten the highest honor if an commissioned officer was ever goddamn present
    his name was Paul Alfaro
    rip he died of covid (he was on dialysis already already dangerously sick)
    but I would be interesting to hear if anyone knows him my mom would love to hear stories from his division

    • @b-52eggbeast88
      @b-52eggbeast88 Před 2 lety +8

      If you google the unit you may find they have a facebook group or a reunion association- good luck and sorry for your loss!

    • @kellynolen498
      @kellynolen498 Před 2 lety +7

      @@b-52eggbeast88 I'll check his papers thanks for the tip

    • @joshuafranklin9630
      @joshuafranklin9630 Před 8 měsíci +1

      75th Ranger Regiment* (Airborne, and Rangers are just different schools. There's nothing that impressive about being Airborne. Every other person I know in the Army is Airborne. A Ranger Tab, in a Ranger Regiment is more impressive.)

  • @UselessFodder
    @UselessFodder Před 2 lety +300

    This op was an absolute blast. It was so cool having boots on the ground with the real deal and seeing how their thought processes worked, even in game. I hope we get to do another one soon!

  • @sainterasmus4545
    @sainterasmus4545 Před 2 lety +203

    The way they were moving through the jungle in a spread out line gave me flashbacks to my own experience in the army, awesome stuff. Although, definitely wouldn't be crouch walking that much, that shit is tough even without equipment.

    • @nybergsgarage
      @nybergsgarage Před 2 lety +16

      crouch walking is quit painful over long distances. but it works well in a game.

    • @TripleTrickShot
      @TripleTrickShot Před 2 lety +3

      @@nybergsgarage i can feel the phantom pain soreness in my thighs neck and back

    • @SavageGameDesign
      @SavageGameDesign Před 2 lety +2

      too right, we do it because in Arma 3 it makes you make less noise so the AI enemy won't hear you coming... gives you a chance to detour or ambush.

  • @theariesexperiment4642
    @theariesexperiment4642 Před 2 lety +33

    I can emphasize enough how f_ckin cool this is. Real SOG's running op's in ARMA. 🤯 It doesn't get any better than this. Thank you with all my heart for your service gentlemen. God Bless you boys. 🇺🇸💪👍

  • @nrg6245
    @nrg6245 Před 2 lety +14

    Nothing is more calming and soothing and makes me feel safer when someone in the army like a General or someone on comms saying what the mission is and giving the run down it’s like that’s our boys out there.

  • @noelwaterman6021
    @noelwaterman6021 Před 2 lety +303

    Now this what I believe Arma can be, great job Drew

  • @bubbacalderon6234
    @bubbacalderon6234 Před 2 lety +99

    Honestly what an incredible video...the veterans older voices giving call outs and orders sounded like real coms... literally gave me goosebumps

    • @grim3646
      @grim3646 Před 2 lety +4

      Totally agree this was an incredible video! Kinda surreal in a way

  • @whc1498
    @whc1498 Před 2 lety +10

    The fact that these gentleman are even able to play such a game and basically "re-enact" the things that they did is truly remarkable.

  • @matthewmorgan7056
    @matthewmorgan7056 Před 2 lety +11

    My Dad served in Vietnam. He loved ARMA3. I so wish he could have seen this.

  • @bendermender926
    @bendermender926 Před 2 lety +81

    Tilt's story had shivers rollin down my spine man. The way he crept back the same that he crept up was just freaky as hell.

    • @hughescrewchief836
      @hughescrewchief836 Před 2 lety +25

      Ghostrider Don here; As Tilt says "Just Another Day in SOG."

  • @Cyber9Hound
    @Cyber9Hound Před 2 lety +119

    I'm going to be honest: this is the coolest fucking thing.

  • @AmericanPatriotANomad
    @AmericanPatriotANomad Před 2 lety +10

    This actually a great experience as a a Veteran myself My a couple of my Drills were from the Vietnam War I salute past and future veterans

  • @kobymoua8977
    @kobymoua8977 Před 2 lety +10

    To know that these guys are old and playing games make me happy

  • @tomlusk7873
    @tomlusk7873 Před 2 lety +239

    I joined the United States Army at the height of the Vietnam War I even volunteered for Vietnam but the Army had other plans for me they didn't have too much use for tanks in Vietnam so I was sent to the 3rd Armored Division 1968 to 1971

    • @RicardoSanchez-es5wl
      @RicardoSanchez-es5wl Před 2 lety +36

      Blessings to you and your family and know we appreciate your service to this nation

    • @joemclenigan6026
      @joemclenigan6026 Před 2 lety +7

      Welcome Home!

    • @chickenteriyakij.d5302
      @chickenteriyakij.d5302 Před 2 lety +6

      I'm still there, I never came home.

    • @justineallandevelos6491
      @justineallandevelos6491 Před 2 lety +2

      Oh cool a vet from General patton's infamous spearhead division is here

    • @Masked_SVincent
      @Masked_SVincent Před 2 lety +3

      @@RicardoSanchez-es5wl He volunteered for a pointless war, not exactly a hero nor a real service. just another pawn that was lucky enough to make it out.

  • @bailev7129
    @bailev7129 Před 2 lety +68

    These are some of the most badass men, and they’re chilling playing arma just living the old days, love it

  • @games68775
    @games68775 Před 2 lety +14

    I wonder what the vets were feeling in such an immersive experience. This is the closest you can get without actually living it.

  • @chrisdailey241
    @chrisdailey241 Před 2 lety +8

    I wonder if any of those guys served with my grandfather. He was a Scorpion in Vietnam, a chopper gunner. Helluva man from the stories I've read

  • @hagenhog
    @hagenhog Před 2 lety +131

    Thats cool. Them guys came home to straight hate at home. I hate how they have been treated. God bless all troops including the brave who fought in a terrible war. Vietnam was a horrible place.

    • @tomlusk7873
      @tomlusk7873 Před 2 lety +24

      I was spit on when I got off the plane Fort Dix New Jersey headed to Germany

    • @b-52eggbeast88
      @b-52eggbeast88 Před 2 lety +18

      @@tomlusk7873 tom thats terrible to hear. From a brit who just made this game with the sog vets, welcome home and thanks for serving! I hope you found peace with your war experiences

    • @tomlusk7873
      @tomlusk7873 Před 2 lety +7

      @@b-52eggbeast88 thank you it was my pleasure to serve

    • @tomlusk7873
      @tomlusk7873 Před 2 lety +8

      @@b-52eggbeast88 I was lucky I was sent to Germany instead of Vietnam but it still did not take the sting away from being spit on when I got off the plane and Fort Dix New Jersey to get on another plane to go to Germany for three years

    • @b-52eggbeast88
      @b-52eggbeast88 Před 2 lety +10

      @@tomlusk7873 its all service for your country. Im glad that these days that kind of behaviour is not going to happen

  • @immikeurnot
    @immikeurnot Před 2 lety +51

    I know a former SOG guy. Dude has a hilarious story about a bicycle.
    Had his mom send him a bell for said bicycle, which pissed off a lot of people, apparently.

  • @OrganizedChaos396
    @OrganizedChaos396 Před 2 lety +12

    Ok really though, General Bowra is a literal living legend in the SF community. Like, I grew up hearing the stories about this guy! I honestly can't believe you got him to play ARMA 3! This is so cool!

  • @knarftrakiul3881
    @knarftrakiul3881 Před 2 lety +6

    Wow...it's cool to hear these guys talk and plan while playing this game.. all these years and they would still be deadly

  • @venivinivinci
    @venivinivinci Před 2 lety +39

    I remember as a grunt saw gunner pushing out on skt's with the snipers making 6 man teams and im sitting there reading sog books through my nods thats when my reality fully hit me and really gave me another perspective to the business of war and really helped me out with my planning and how I could influence those around me

    • @b-52eggbeast88
      @b-52eggbeast88 Před 2 lety +6

      Thats the SOG/ SF way - always learning from others DOL

  • @tribal6597
    @tribal6597 Před 2 lety +80

    This is so cool! Playing with real War vets!

  • @ethanspaziani1070
    @ethanspaziani1070 Před 2 lety +10

    This is blowing my mind I can't believe you actually got the real people there with you man that's crazy

  • @Ace0486
    @Ace0486 Před 2 lety +7

    I play empire total war with a US Marine Vietnam vet. He was infantry. I think he’s in his late 60s or in 70s. Was 18 in Vietnam. He plays empire total war online everyday lol

    • @nathaniel.7172
      @nathaniel.7172 Před rokem

      That's pretty cool brother, hehe, God bless you both

  • @saltytroopa6578
    @saltytroopa6578 Před 2 lety +37

    Can't imagine being in that part of history and now playing it all over in a computer game of the 21 century.

  • @stephonblackett2592
    @stephonblackett2592 Před 2 lety +46

    Extract was hectic. Nice job Drew and others. Mad respect to see actual former MAC V SOG members playing the game

  • @wes11bravo
    @wes11bravo Před 2 lety +5

    Something I've noticed about these SOG guys is that even though time marches on, they're all still seeing the world through the eyes of the warrior kids they were back then. So many of them are eager and willing to share their stories and give advice. Like all true badasses, any ego beyond their quiet and resolute confidence simply doesn't exist. Tilt still has the same attitude he had as a smartass E4, still has that same mischievous smile. He was totally cool sharing some advice for my nephew as he gets ready for SFAS and even gave a shit about my service as an 11B Mech nobody to thank me for it. The fact that real SOG vets are taking this seriously and are being earnest about what's going on is yet another example of what amazing warriors they are.

  • @REVOLVER_NOIR
    @REVOLVER_NOIR Před 2 lety +11

    From a Marine veteran I salute you gentlemen for a job well done! 🇺🇸👍🏼

  • @clifbradley
    @clifbradley Před 2 lety +92

    Hey Drew, if Arma wants to add a Special Forces A-team Mike force Mobile Strike Force for airboat operations in the Delta of Cao Lah, my step-father was MAC-V SOG and could provide details if they wanted to put a heavily armed airboat and a Mike Boat in the game.

    • @lanesilva9234
      @lanesilva9234 Před 2 lety

      Do you know what unit your step-father was in?

  • @kamraam1464
    @kamraam1464 Před 2 lety +24

    Trying to imagine my vietnam-vet grandpa playing arma with me now

  • @Byteable
    @Byteable Před 2 lety +6

    Xin Loi actually means sorry in Vietnamese, but the context how the veteran use it is absolutely hilarious 😂

    • @queuedjar4578
      @queuedjar4578 Před 7 měsíci +1

      In English you can also say Sorry with a "well, SORRY" sarcastic pseudo-fuck you connotation so i imagine that's what was intended.

  • @lamborgini86
    @lamborgini86 Před 2 lety +8

    As much i would love to hear our vets stories at combat , i do respect them when they dont want to talk about it , i see them as someone with more knowledge than me

  • @MistaMurk88
    @MistaMurk88 Před 2 lety +24

    I'm glad I made the decision to get into ARMA, even though I don't have all the DLC and get that annoying ad type stuff showing up on my screen. It is still amazing. This had to be a one of a kind experience for you drewski, What an Honor!

    • @b-52eggbeast88
      @b-52eggbeast88 Před 2 lety +2

      DLCs are on sale this weekend - some have 70% off

  • @nikkolaus
    @nikkolaus Před 2 lety +83

    You're just lucky that these old fellas 1) have heard of ARMA 3, and 2) Had a PC good enough to run it! ..Lmao...

    • @Plaidgeoduck6
      @Plaidgeoduck6 Před 2 lety +33

      I have a feeling that the developers of this CDLC got in touch with them about this project for research purposes. They musta loved the idea so much that they wanted to play it, and I’m assuming some of the devs hooked them up with some rigs. If thats the case, that’s awesome!

    • @SavageGameDesign
      @SavageGameDesign Před 2 lety +3

      @@Plaidgeoduck6 we converted Don from Call of Duty - he prefers Arma as he can sit in his left seat door gun and blaze away like the good old days.

  • @lylewyant3356
    @lylewyant3356 Před 2 lety +13

    I'm a Cold War Vet. No CIB. To play this with those who have been there done that, awesome. I think this would get me wired pretty tight.

    • @acrock21
      @acrock21 Před 2 lety

      Thank you for yoyr service Sir!

    • @ironicrbx
      @ironicrbx Před 2 lety

      That's quite the achievement, If you dont mind me asking and are comfortable, You were CIA?

  • @tech-78
    @tech-78 Před 2 lety +2

    Great video, and thanks to these men that served & are still here to be able to play this game with you.

  • @modernwheelchair1529
    @modernwheelchair1529 Před 2 lety +21

    This is really cool, what an experience. I gotta admit just watching this puts a smile to my face and makes me happy we still have these guys around to be able to tell their stories and show just a glimpse of what it was like. I have alot of respect for them. Also glad this was captured and shown. Great video and great people. Thank you for sharing this and being apart of this.

    • @b-52eggbeast88
      @b-52eggbeast88 Před 2 lety +2

      Thanks for a great comment too!

    • @hughescrewchief836
      @hughescrewchief836 Před 2 lety +2

      Ghostrider Don Here; Thank you your comment is is great. That is why us MACV-SOG vets got involved.

  • @desertranger1095
    @desertranger1095 Před 2 lety +25

    I gotta say I dident expect something like this to happen this is amazing.

  • @kenkenobi1610
    @kenkenobi1610 Před rokem +2

    Thank you for your service as my brothers four of them and my father a Marine

  • @douglassinclaire9968
    @douglassinclaire9968 Před 2 lety +4

    i bought this game but havent played it yet. That was amazing, and immersive. I did demining operations in SV out of hawaii in the late 90s. Still boobytrapped jungles from decades ago. Jungle trained in Panama. That had my bunghole water tight the whole time. WTG.

    • @trulyinfamous
      @trulyinfamous Před 2 lety +1

      Demining/EOD is definitely a scary job. Mines never go away, and hurt without discretion.
      The ARMA 3 Remnants of War DLC has a focus on UXO and mines, great short campaign.

  • @alienoftheapocalypse2183
    @alienoftheapocalypse2183 Před 2 lety +25

    Every now and then I watch ur channel, I have to say teaming up with some veterans and playing games like this add so much realism. Even I as a veteran am reliving moments. Keep this up its exciting.

  • @youngk4455
    @youngk4455 Před 2 lety +13

    Played with a Vietnam veteran was such a cool experience even if you are just running supplies

  • @AdamNorris1990
    @AdamNorris1990 Před 2 lety +2

    If players communicated like that in all shooters it would be alot more fun and less annoying

  • @BlueBirdsProductions
    @BlueBirdsProductions Před 2 lety +7

    This is actually the coolest gaming video to ever be made

  • @iankeli
    @iankeli Před 2 lety +17

    Absolutely loved watching the Gameplay, Strategy, and Experience of being in ARMA's The Suck 2.0 with the vets. Can't wait for more content.

  • @jeckek9936
    @jeckek9936 Před 2 lety +16

    What a time to be alive. Playing video games with todays spartans.

  • @cooper6848
    @cooper6848 Před 2 lety +4

    I actually play with these guys in the regular tfar servers of this DLC. Great guys to be around and lots of stories

  • @firefighting.responder
    @firefighting.responder Před 2 lety +4

    This game is so real looking I think I got PTSD.......

  • @mattfleming86
    @mattfleming86 Před 2 lety +12

    It was (a very enjoyable) honor to watch this. Absolutely amazing. Thanks Drewski for bringing this to us.

  • @coolhandluke7772
    @coolhandluke7772 Před 2 lety +24

    One of those guys kinda sounds like my great uncle Richard. He’s a Vietnam vet, and loves war games. I’m not sure if he plays ARMA though
    Edit: After listening to it a little more it doesn’t sound like him. My uncle has a lot thicker Southern accent.

    • @b-52eggbeast88
      @b-52eggbeast88 Před 2 lety +1

      Please show him the movie if he’s ok to watch it

  • @tickticktickBOOOOM
    @tickticktickBOOOOM Před 2 lety +1

    My uncle was a grenadier in the 1st Cav, with the M79. The underslung launcher wasn't in general use yet. He said he got great at quickly reloading it, because every one he fired was one he didn't have to lug through the jungle anymore. Suppressing or killing the VC was just a bonus compared to lightening his load.

  • @louisramirez8002
    @louisramirez8002 Před 2 lety +7

    Bro as an Afghanistan war veteran I love to see this! You should do more videos with vets 🇺🇸 keep up the awesome content

  • @boredom2473
    @boredom2473 Před 2 lety +9

    Had to go watch the video about these guys and all I can say is that they are incredible. It is insane that you got the chance to play with them. I find it humbling that they can share a piece of history through a way that will find more people than a book. These guys know that the best way to do it is to find something that resonates to the younger generation. Thank you for your service guys, and thanks for the vid Drew as its this is one of the best ones you have released.

    • @b-52eggbeast88
      @b-52eggbeast88 Před 2 lety +2

      Mission complete! Thanks for your kind words

  • @meestergopnik4550
    @meestergopnik4550 Před 2 lety +5

    this is my actual dream. i look up to macv sog team members

  • @cameronmays5422
    @cameronmays5422 Před 2 lety +2

    The part around the 1:37 mark is called an OPORD brief. In the military soldiers are briefed on their mission as well as every little detail that might affect it. You'll hear a lot that certain things are METT-TC dependant, which means that the variables change the mission. METT-TC is basically a huge acronym that breaks down the various factors that play into a mission

  • @klayman2
    @klayman2 Před 2 lety +11

    My uncle on my dads side was a tank commander in vietnam, he's never spoke much about it, only showed us souvenirs he took with him.

  • @admiralroyeracing4768
    @admiralroyeracing4768 Před 2 lety +56

    My grandfathers brother was one in Vietnam. He couldn’t even remember how many he had shot and killed because he was so good at it. Kinda feel sorry for the man

    • @combativeThinker
      @combativeThinker Před 2 lety +10

      I don’t. God bless him. He did us all a favor, killing that many communists.

    • @RageXBlade
      @RageXBlade Před 2 lety +2

      @@combativeThinker this is the sort of silly comment you can expect from people who have only had a very narrow view of history taught to them. The narrower the view, the closer it is to propaganda.

    • @spazemfathemcazemmeleggymi272
      @spazemfathemcazemmeleggymi272 Před 2 lety

      @@RageXBlade hi communist

    • @RageXBlade
      @RageXBlade Před 2 lety +1

      @@spazemfathemcazemmeleggymi272 Yes, the communists were experts at what I was describing. Anything that did not fit in the official narrative "never happened". Just like Tiananmen Square.

    • @spazemfathemcazemmeleggymi272
      @spazemfathemcazemmeleggymi272 Před 2 lety +1

      @@RageXBlade ah your a clever one.

  • @theclassicliberal1915
    @theclassicliberal1915 Před 2 lety +23

    Constantly evolving Drew. Stoked for you man.

  • @Thebeastakuma1337
    @Thebeastakuma1337 Před 2 lety +1

    Such a badass video. Loved it from start to finish. So amazing to see veterans play and hopefully bring them good memories of their younger days.

  • @GlennDavey
    @GlennDavey Před 2 lety +3

    Don't have the mental bandwidth for games like this but this video was riveting

  • @ALaughingWolf2188
    @ALaughingWolf2188 Před 2 lety +6

    I’m surprised to hear that one of the veterans watches SovietWomble, they all sound like really really cool guys, I hope your able to do more videos like this one

    • @SavageGameDesign
      @SavageGameDesign Před 2 lety +3

      Womble is playing the SOG Prairie Fire game regularly, and Don and El Cid and Tilt and Wild Carrot helped us design it, so they watch others' streams and footage to learn how others handle situations, or enjoy the game. Also Digby was in with us, and he runs the ops with womble.

  • @JackBQuick79
    @JackBQuick79 Před 2 lety +3

    Inspired to say thank you to all of those who put everything out there when the time came. All of you who did so, from the bottom of my heart thank you for the sacrifice you made then and for the burdens you may carry now.
    Secondly, i can really appreciate the quality of this game.

  • @parkerbeebe4383
    @parkerbeebe4383 Před 2 lety +1

    I really enjoyed watching this and seeing the brave men who fought in this war playing along with you which make this mission more realisticish. Thanks for the amazing content keep it up 👍

  • @symple19
    @symple19 Před 2 lety +1

    This is badass. Great content and wonderful to see all the love for the SOG guys. Legends, all of them.

  • @mclovin924
    @mclovin924 Před 2 lety +5

    Dude, I don't think I can express how cool this is to me that you got real Vets. It seems like something to never forget.

  • @JuanRodriguez-uh4hr
    @JuanRodriguez-uh4hr Před 2 lety +2

    The difference in focus from the vets and the lads is crazy…..You can tell they are 100% involved and they only speak for commands or to lead the team

    • @SavageGameDesign
      @SavageGameDesign Před 2 lety

      we learn a lot fro mthem every time we play together (twice a week)

  • @anc757
    @anc757 Před 2 lety +3

    I learned about SOG from John L Plaster’s books (a former SOG team member, a former team leader called if I remember correctly a One-Zero and former Covey Rider),the stuff these guys went through was for lack of better words was insane and nightmarish when being hunted by large groups of the NVA and especially NVA trackers who were trained to hunt down SOG teams and either ambush them or call in larger groups of troops to ambush the teams. So seeing the veterans play with you was eye opening.

  • @DannyPepprs
    @DannyPepprs Před 2 lety +2

    Ive watched this whole thing , awesome is all can say , just awesome . hats off to the warriors , thank you for everything you did there . From a ole Navy (cold war)
    Vet