@@charlesblack9959Doesn't make a lot of logical sense. Old 50 year olds play pickup at the YMCA. I guess basketball isn't a sport. If you have to use your full body it's a sport.
This is why I hate Opie beyond words. Throughout this segment Patrice and Anthony are legit trying to figure out ways how certain things can be changed logically and become a sport. They think of defense, points, tactics etc to make it make sense. What does Opie do? "What about if you uhhh kill the guy? Or beat his child to death in front of you? That'd make it a sport right? HOLD ON HOLD ON HOLD ON HOLD HOLD ON!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Patrice (on Black Phillip) talked about how women can't logically entertain even a hypothetical scenario coz they don't understand context. Opie IS exactly what Patrice was talking about. God what a moron.
So fucking aggravating. Until this clip and a few others I have heard recently, I always wondered why people were so harsh towards Opie (even though I did think he was annoying, just not SUPER annoying). But now? I totally understand. Fuck
Sport: A game that requires physical exertion wherein an opponent may disrupt the ability to score. Game: A pastime that involves two or more participants competing for a goal. Hobby: An activity that has a stated goal, but requires no other participants.
The actual definition of sport is different from what you stated... Sport: An activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an "individual" or team competes against each other. Individual sports include golf, tennis, ping pong, etc...
I personally don’t understand tho. Patrice’s definition of a man is just eating and f**king. Doing anything else somehow made others f*gs in his eyes 🙄
Jeez Patrice!! I didn’t know you were going to talk stupid silly stuff, like you’d do smoking pot, so I’m going to keep ruining the automatic controversial statement. Say it to anyone… “ _Your one talent_ is not a sport.” To anyone who played a competitive game.
Competitive swimming, sprinting, skiing and golfing are in the "Beating each others scores" category. They are all performing without another persons interference and at the end of the event are just comparing their scores/performance. Those players could complete the event without ever even seeing the other players.
I think a better descriptor would just be “competition” all these non-interactive activities are “competitions” similar to “yo-yo competition” “ dancing competitions” “ singing competitions”
When you stop and think about it, it really is amazing how long Opie and Anthony actually lasted before imploding considering just how UNFUNNY Opie really was.
In golf you play against more than 1 opponent, your mind, the other golfers, and the course itself. Basketball, baseball, football, tennis, all have the same environment every play, but in golf the weather can change the same course during the day... making it one way in the morning and another in the afternoon. Its harder than most sports.
Footballs played outside where it rains and snows and gets all types of slippery and muddy it's not guaranteed they're gonna play on a clear day... Environmental defense doesn't count because your opponent can't alter the environment to screw you, if you mess up it's all your fault your opponent couldn't do anything but pray you stunk in the rain
Are you forgetting that Soccer, Football, Baseball, Cricket, Outdoor hockey etc etc are all played mostly outdoors? How is Golf harder than most sports when 80% of the player base are old fat white dudes who's body's are run off nicotine and cheap beer? It's harder but requires literally no standards of health and fitness?
If you can be totally out of shape, but can be the best, it is a hobby Fishing, Darts, Pool, Bowling........Skilled yes, but no need to break a sweat or can do it sitting in a chair :D
I love how much patrice has clearly spent thinking about this. He understands the fundamentals of his argument to the fucking tee and people keep trying to argue with examples instead of attacking the foundation of the actual point he's making.
31:01 "The 100m dash is not a sport" never ever have I heard anyone utter any thing similar with such conviction, but I would never let the truth get in the way of a great Patrice O'Neal argument.
I think many people who haven't played tennis don't realize how hard it is. I would definitely put top tennis players up there with the top athletes of all other sports.
24:13 Great argument by Anthony, anybody can drive fast, but of course that's where the skill part kicks. And great argument by Patrice, you shouldn't be able to pick something up at 45, if it's considered a pure sport. Of course people start swimming or even martial arts at 45, but they usually don't get competitive at it anymore, outside of some senior class.
Skiing can go "hotdog the movie' with the competitive skiing race at the end... teams start at the top, full contact and first team to get someone to the bottom.... there's your sport! :)
What if every golfer is paired with a skeet shooter, if the risk is having the ball get shot out of the air preventing one from exhibiting their skill, could that be a sport?
Golf is not a sport. Golf is a skill. The game of golf doesn't really measure anything physical about the player. Strength and speed dont factor. Some will say you have to be strong to hit a ball X amount of yards down the fairway but that doesn't really count. This game can be played at a relatively high level by guys in their 50's or even 60's. Its a skill. Bowling, race car driving,. darts, billiards, archery, target shooting, fishing, hunting, ballroom dancing, etc. All skills NOT SPORTS. World Class snow skiing and swimming are sports because the participants are in excellent physical condition. You are going fast down the mountain or fast in the pool. You are competing against the clock. There are no 50 year old (or even 40 year old) swimmers or skiers in the Olympics. Track and Field are definitely sports ... again measuring speed against the clock. Usain Bolt fastest human on the planet. Track and Field don't have defensive players but it measures something about the participant, usually their speed and/or strength.
If guy with Phil Micklesons body is considered great in a sport then it’s not a sport. Tiger Woods was great cause he was an actual athlete playing it. Imagine LeBron liking golf more than basketball.
Did anyone catch around the two minute mark when Opie says he would have been the greatest shooter in the history of the NBA if he was left open....let that sink in for a minute
I still want to call almost everything a sport when they call it that, but Patrice opinion is kind of changing my perspective. I’m sold, golf is not a sport. Now we should come up with another name to classify these “non sports” according to Patrice Lol
I would argue that the course itself is playing defense but I get it and it is hilarious. rip patrice. I think the real arguement isnt whether or not bowling, golfing etc are sports but if the participants are athletes
From what I learned, Requirements of a sport 1. Physical Exerting Defense in which your physical skill is counteracts the ability of the opponent 2. You cannot compete with a professional athlete. For example: Getting your ass kicked in the NFL, not even getting a shot in the NBA, falling in your face 5 seconds in the NHL.
This is the only time I’ve ever disagreed with Patrice, golf is not a sport but not for that reason, golfs ain’t a sport cause a game you can play drunk whole smoking a cigarette is not a fucking sport
According to Patrice: Arm wrestling in a bar = sport. Running 100 meter dash at the Olympics =/= sport. Could be said about another 30 disciplines from the Olympics - i guess its mostly not a sports event.
Yes, that is correct, I don't even know why we still have Olympic games. There's nobody stopping Usain Bolt from just running as fast as he can, Federer on the other hand...
Something is not sport if the arguments for it are dumb af, like it's dangerous (Nascar) or there's weather (Golf) otherwise being outside during a lightning storm would be the most sport thing ever.
23:51 Opie bout to have a stroke. Man I love Patrice, everything out of his mouth is a runaway train but with an actual destination. He’s saying unconventional but honest and true things but it’s scary listening, like this shit is going off the rails. Then he makes his point and you worried for nothing. He and Bill Burr definitely from the same school.
I was watching golf the other day with my Dad. I think they should it as fast as they can. They have as many shots as they want but they have to run after the ball.
Bring this up with anyone and you’ll hear every single opposition heard here, and the same passion regardless of your people’s athleticism or interest in sports.
Being a guest on O&A qualifies as a sport, because Opie was always out to interrupt a great observation, or deflect the conversation back to himself.
You are SOOOOOOO NOT WRONG in this statement. Well asserted.
Hang on hang on.
Yawn
I was playing a lot of defense in chess this weekend.
Leave it Alone
Also, golf can't be a sport because it's what real professional athletes play during their offseason.
SOO underrated!
Facts. It's literally how we insult losing teams
@@charlesblack9959Doesn't make a lot of logical sense. Old 50 year olds play pickup at the YMCA. I guess basketball isn't a sport. If you have to use your full body it's a sport.
@@mr.brenman2132makes perfect sense. Even old dudes llaying at the y are competing against each other and preventing each other from scoring
@@rickDArula Golfers are competing against each other.
Opie got too much leash on this one
This is why I hate Opie beyond words. Throughout this segment Patrice and Anthony are legit trying to figure out ways how certain things can be changed logically and become a sport. They think of defense, points, tactics etc to make it make sense. What does Opie do? "What about if you uhhh kill the guy? Or beat his child to death in front of you? That'd make it a sport right? HOLD ON HOLD ON HOLD ON HOLD HOLD ON!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Let's go to the phones!
Patrice (on Black Phillip) talked about how women can't logically entertain even a hypothetical scenario coz they don't understand context. Opie IS exactly what Patrice was talking about. God what a moron.
But he hit a Home run at the end with Rape 😂
So fucking aggravating. Until this clip and a few others I have heard recently, I always wondered why people were so harsh towards Opie (even though I did think he was annoying, just not SUPER annoying). But now? I totally understand. Fuck
We need a Nopie version of this.
“Somethin is not a sport if you have the term BUTTERFLY in it!” Ahh Patrice is a legend.
Have to turn butterfly*
the defence argument is solid to this day. not a sport, still a fun hobby though
Remember that one clip where Opie brushes off anything that's unique and creative as 'pot talk'?
I just heard it as I read this
@@have_a_good_day420 Me too
i love how every o and a video comment section turns into how much opie is disliked
Perfectly balanced as all things should be
its fucking corny. everyone just repeating same thing for likes
@@IhateAlot718 Yeah it's dumb, Opie really isn't that bad. But a lot of these comments are a few years old when the hate for Opie peaked
Well he is intolerable
@@superbad1085the comments are a few years old from when the VIEWS peaked. Opie hate is consistent across the board
27:20 when the dude says “turbulence “ Patrice with his “uuuggh” of disgust
That’s the most lame reason I’ve ever heard lol
you could tell the guy is just pulling shit out of his ass
Now pilots are athletes.
Sport: A game that requires physical exertion wherein an opponent may disrupt the ability to score.
Game: A pastime that involves two or more participants competing for a goal.
Hobby: An activity that has a stated goal, but requires no other participants.
So basically any aerobic "game" isn't a sport? Running?
@@kissanpentu2239 is weightlifting a sport? Always considered that and running as just exercise.
@@blankname4716 weightlifing isnt
These aren’t the accepted definitions though
The actual definition of sport is different from what you stated... Sport: An activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an "individual" or team competes against each other. Individual sports include golf, tennis, ping pong, etc...
Hold on, Hold on, Hold on, Hold on, Hold on! HOLD ON!
fuck me he's intolerable, and very hard to tune out too.
i GOT THE BIT! i GOT THE BIT!
. Hold on.... let’s take another caller
"What about land mines?"
Really Opie? That's something a 12 year old would say
Super Deluxo Kid
Carlin was funny when he wasn’t busy pandering to the ‘regular joe’ about soh-cy-uh-tee.
28:22 That was a good suggestion by Opie.
32:41 Was also a good one.
Opie was fine here. The land mine comment was dumb but overall he was fine.
@@robrick9361 yeah trust me i hate opie but he was actually pretty good here. "So then rape is a sport" was a great line
@@robrick9361 16:24 was pretty good too.
God I miss Patrice. Became my mentor on so many subjects. Glad I was able to save up and go to one of his benefits. RIP
slow clap
U need ur dad
@@sognarlyent He's been dead for 6 years. Patrice is a great step-uncle though.
@@stevenw2028 jokes man. I love u
He didn't even know who the fuck you were
Sport: there should be a physical aspect, the ability to play defense, ability to strategize against you
Bruh when he told his son was a sissy 🤣🤣🤣I died
I personally don’t understand tho. Patrice’s definition of a man is just eating and f**king. Doing anything else somehow made others f*gs in his eyes 🙄
GAH DAMN
You listen to the shows with just Ant, Patrice, Joe, Jimmy, or whoever without Opie and you realize they do just fine if not better
Such a great and legitimate conversation and Opie made me cringe by calling it "pot talk". He's like a girl who can't keep up 😑
Jeez Patrice!! I didn’t know you were going to talk stupid silly stuff, like you’d do smoking pot, so I’m going to keep ruining the automatic controversial statement. Say it to anyone… “ _Your one talent_ is not a sport.” To anyone who played a competitive game.
Thanks I thought I was the only one
It’s the fact he has to repeat himself seconds after saying it, oof!
Competitive swimming, sprinting, skiing and golfing are in the "Beating each others scores" category. They are all performing without another persons interference and at the end of the event are just comparing their scores/performance. Those players could complete the event without ever even seeing the other players.
Except swimming sprinting and skiing has athletes in the sport
My cousin got so angry yesterday when I informed him golf, wasn't a sport 😂
golf isnt a sport sorry not sorry
@@NickyD dude he literally tried the "skill" argument with me 🤣🤣 like bro that wasnt the point.
I think a better descriptor would just be “competition” all these non-interactive activities are “competitions” similar to “yo-yo competition” “ dancing competitions” “ singing competitions”
I dont think i’ve ever heard a human being say hold on as much or as infuriatingly annoying as Opie
When you stop and think about it, it really is amazing how long Opie and Anthony actually lasted before imploding considering just how UNFUNNY Opie really was.
Opie really did top notch work here trying to destroy the funny
I thought he was pretty funny. What is this cult of opie hate?
@@NikoMalekMusic In general I don't like Opie, but I thought opie was ok in this, had a few good ones
In golf you play against more than 1 opponent, your mind, the other golfers, and the course itself. Basketball, baseball, football, tennis, all have the same environment every play, but in golf the weather can change the same course during the day... making it one way in the morning and another in the afternoon. Its harder than most sports.
Footballs played outside where it rains and snows and gets all types of slippery and muddy it's not guaranteed they're gonna play on a clear day... Environmental defense doesn't count because your opponent can't alter the environment to screw you, if you mess up it's all your fault your opponent couldn't do anything but pray you stunk in the rain
Are you forgetting that Soccer, Football, Baseball, Cricket, Outdoor hockey etc etc are all played mostly outdoors?
How is Golf harder than most sports when 80% of the player base are old fat white dudes who's body's are run off nicotine and cheap beer? It's harder but requires literally no standards of health and fitness?
@zalenahquaddy4354 same boring field though. Plus the weather hardly ever becomes a problem.
@@johndiddilyjoe6258same boring field plus barely any weather causing problems.
Weather also affects driving to work. Doesn't make it a sport
According to Patrice, a sport is "the physical strategic interaction of competitors in an event with a measurable objective" .
If you can be totally out of shape, but can be the best, it is a hobby
Fishing, Darts, Pool, Bowling........Skilled yes, but no need to break a sweat or can do it sitting in a chair :D
I would play full contact golf
I love how much patrice has clearly spent thinking about this. He understands the fundamentals of his argument to the fucking tee and people keep trying to argue with examples instead of attacking the foundation of the actual point he's making.
He was brilliant.
9:41 "no.... because you can't depend on mother nature. That's...that's just dumb"🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 God damnit we miss you Mr P 💔
"and maybe you chain the midget" might rank in the all time funniest things I've ever heard
Another bit nearly ruined by Opie
31:01 "The 100m dash is not a sport" never ever have I heard anyone utter any thing similar with such conviction, but I would never let the truth get in the way of a great Patrice O'Neal argument.
Opie really saved himself at the end, almost ruined 43 minutes of radio but then ends with the heat.
Stop it, no you didn’t play chess that weekend.
Laughed out loud in the beginning when opie claims if there was no defense HE would be the best basketball player in the world
It’s true.
Nascar is not a sport
Midget toss isn't a sport unless the midget fights back.
Trust me, midgets always fight back
The greatest Hobbyist ever 😂
The King of Activities!!!😂😂😂
Patrice’s version of golf is the only one I’d ever watch.
Endurance is the competition. Still not a sport. More like measuring skill level.
There needs to be a combativeness to it.
Its competition but not a sport, I agree with patrice
Patrice is so right, and when you tell golfers this they freak out.
I think many people who haven't played tennis don't realize how hard it is. I would definitely put top tennis players up there with the top athletes of all other sports.
24:13 Great argument by Anthony, anybody can drive fast, but of course that's where the skill part kicks. And great argument by Patrice, you shouldn't be able to pick something up at 45, if it's considered a pure sport. Of course people start swimming or even martial arts at 45, but they usually don't get competitive at it anymore, outside of some senior class.
Opie , oh opie its a mystery how you are there
The tiger woods blindside tackle bit is hilarious
Skiing can go "hotdog the movie' with the competitive skiing race at the end... teams start at the top, full contact and first team to get someone to the bottom.... there's your sport! :)
great movie
Chinese downhill
Golf is not a sport since it's what pros play in their offseason or when they're retired.
What if every golfer is paired with a skeet shooter, if the risk is having the ball get shot out of the air preventing one from exhibiting their skill, could that be a sport?
Rape being a sport is the funniest thing Opie ever said
👑 Patrice... 💩 Opie
Man just /imagine/ a world where Opie got fired first, Patrice survived, and he, Jim, and Ant ran O&A.
Physical activity + plus defense = Sport
Golf is not a sport. Golf is a skill. The game of golf doesn't really measure anything physical about the player. Strength and speed dont factor. Some will say you have to be strong to hit a ball X amount of yards down the fairway but that doesn't really count. This game can be played at a relatively high level by guys in their 50's or even 60's. Its a skill. Bowling, race car driving,. darts, billiards, archery, target shooting, fishing, hunting, ballroom dancing, etc. All skills NOT SPORTS.
World Class snow skiing and swimming are sports because the participants are in excellent physical condition. You are going fast down the mountain or fast in the pool. You are competing against the clock. There are no 50 year old (or even 40 year old) swimmers or skiers in the Olympics. Track and Field are definitely sports ... again measuring speed against the clock. Usain Bolt fastest human on the planet. Track and Field don't have defensive players but it measures something about the participant, usually their speed and/or strength.
This is one of the greatest guy discussions ever.
If guy with Phil Micklesons body is considered great in a sport then it’s not a sport. Tiger Woods was great cause he was an actual athlete playing it. Imagine LeBron liking golf more than basketball.
Did anyone catch around the two minute mark when Opie says he would have been the greatest shooter in the history of the NBA if he was left open....let that sink in for a minute
Chess is a game, no physical skill ( same as poker )
But not sport
The only board games I consider to be sports are ping pong and arm wrestling.
Then technically football isn't a sport because interference is illegal.
11:03 Patrices reaction 😂
43:01 Holy shit, Opie made me and Patrice lol
so...you have to be competing against someone in a physical manner where the opponent has the same goal as you.
I eish they knew about chess boxing. Would have been hilarious to hear Patrice comment on it
God Opie is insufferable
he keeps shouting over people with nothing to contribute. its maddening.
What, you didn't like when he said he would have been the best NBA shooter of all time if it wasn't for guys trying to block him?
Something is not a sport if it has the term butterfly in it 😂😂😂
32 seconds in "HOLD ON, HOLD ON, HOLD ON, HOLD ON!!!!" UCCCKKKK
6:52 "it's reverse juggling" 😂
Ope really was the Hole
Golf is a game that can be played but never won.
Golf is a hobby .. like slow pitch softball ..shuffle board .. marbles, darts
George Carlin said the same thing, golf is not a sport.
I still want to call almost everything a sport when they call it that, but Patrice opinion is kind of changing my perspective. I’m sold, golf is not a sport.
Now we should come up with another name to classify these “non sports” according to Patrice Lol
Patrice and Ant slaying. Fuckin Dopie ruins everything.
“Ahhaha Take your juggle” man Anthony loved Patrice.
I would argue that the course itself is playing defense but I get it and it is hilarious. rip patrice. I think the real arguement isnt whether or not bowling, golfing etc are sports but if the participants are athletes
From what I learned, Requirements of a sport
1. Physical Exerting Defense in which your physical skill is counteracts the ability of the opponent
2. You cannot compete with a professional athlete. For example: Getting your ass kicked in the NFL, not even getting a shot in the NBA, falling in your face 5 seconds in the NHL.
Baseball is not much of a sport either. It does have defense but let’s be honest if you can chew tobacco while you are doing it then it’s not a sport
Definitely. Its enjoyable to play in the same way bowling is, lets be honest.
I mean the pitcher can strategically throw all kinds of different pitches.
@@deecool47 that's depends on what sticky shit they have on their hands and the amount of steroids rubbed in beforehand.
fairness and awareness comes into play when considering what makes the activity a sport.
Dude was shattered arguing with Patrice. Son is a swimmer not a sportsman.
I only know two golfers
Tiger woods and Phil milkson
Tsss tssss must be a milk salesman or sumptin tsssss
This is the only time I’ve ever disagreed with Patrice, golf is not a sport but not for that reason, golfs ain’t a sport cause a game you can play drunk whole smoking a cigarette is not a fucking sport
41:10 I really wish Patrice laid into the opsters "joke" here instead of laughing at it.
According to Patrice:
Arm wrestling in a bar = sport.
Running 100 meter dash at the Olympics =/= sport.
Could be said about another 30 disciplines from the Olympics - i guess its mostly not a sports event.
Yes, that is correct, I don't even know why we still have Olympic games. There's nobody stopping Usain Bolt from just running as fast as he can, Federer on the other hand...
Pretty sure He’s referring to professional competitive Armwrestling
Something is not sport if the arguments for it are dumb af, like it's dangerous (Nascar) or there's weather (Golf) otherwise being outside during a lightning storm would be the most sport thing ever.
Hold on hold on hold on! Let’s go to Jeff in Poughkeepsie
23:51 Opie bout to have a stroke.
Man I love Patrice, everything out of his mouth is a runaway train but with an actual destination. He’s saying unconventional but honest and true things but it’s scary listening, like this shit is going off the rails. Then he makes his point and you worried for nothing. He and Bill Burr definitely from the same school.
41:10 oh no...
He called out his bullshit and he immediately became defensive lol
Rape is a sport. OMG LOLLLLLL
Steve Sung She hung up right away LMFAOOO
Opie ruined this segment with his idiotic recommendations of landmines and wild dogs.
Sports have direct, active opposition; all else are contests/activities/hobbies.
Opie with the home run at the end lol
Patrice: i have mastered My hobbie!
Me: put me in a coffin. Phucking hilarious.
What's the date on this?
Annoying they don’t put the exact date if they know it, but it’s mostly likely around 2009-2010.
21:00 such a Chip moment
I had to come here after Andrew Schultz had a guy on and talked about golf for half an hour. Jesus Christ, golf stinks
if only Patrice knew how well he'd do as a podcast host.. he'd eat swell in this age with youtube/patreon etc.
It's a skilled hobby. Sports have people trying to stop you from scoring.
I've had this discussion before with a Tiger Woods fan.
I was watching golf the other day with my Dad. I think they should it as fast as they can. They have as many shots as they want but they have to run after the ball.
Still no competing with the opposition. If I can barge you while your racing to the ball then it's a sport.
If you can ride a cart and compete on a professional level. . .it's not a sport.
Bro I'm so sick of Opie just cutting them off.
If you need a strong body to win at a competitive activity, then it's a sport. Golf is not a sport.
What about soccer? Some of the greatest forwards are small guys.
Bring this up with anyone and you’ll hear every single opposition heard here, and the same passion regardless of your people’s athleticism or interest in sports.