Is Benjamin Actually The BEST Farm Now? (Bloons TD 6)
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- čas přidán 13. 05. 2024
- Is Benjamin Actually The BEST Farm Now? BTD6 / Bloons TD 6 - benjamin has been changed to make much much more money later on, but at what cost?
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I like playing bloons but I don’t like playing the game so that will be good for me
this was a fun vid thx for always uploading usualy every day
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@@jameshuang1628 respectfully nobody cares
best
Benjamin became self aware he’d hacking the patch notes
I assume thats a typo
@@rosyidsyahruromadhonalimin8008 I'm going to sleed
@@PoopyMcStinkertons oh no! Should i bring you to the jospital?
@@rosyidsyahruromadhonalimin8008 Bro didn't get py joke
Thank you Isab for. Uh. Feeding me walnuts. Look man I’m out of ideas
quick! say he fell off or something!
@@Firemage_ Ah, too overdone. Everyone’s done that at one point. Anything else?
how'd those nuts taste
@@Eightfold024 Dry. It was just walnuts.
Say that you like bananas. That always works
she ben on my jammin until I start skimming
she syphon on my ben till im jammin
She jammin on my Ben until I start skimming
🍅👎
she skimming on my ben til i start jamming??
Not funny little guy, I hope you change your username because there was nothing silly about what you just said. Please delete your channel and think about what you said. ☹️
For collection events grinders, this nerf doesn't even register much because if you easy+expert maps then the trojan is the a good chunk of ben's viability.
But then again, impoppable+expert will be a decent amount harder than before because the early game is very valuable. But on the other hand you don't spend much on farms late game
but real CE grinders do it on 4p co-op so you can carry/get carried by others :P If everybody has good connection it can even be faster than 1p powerless despite lag
@@KirssarGames no friends moment
Still it takes 80+ rounds for Benjamin to make that 5k so I wouldn't say it's that op
you still make 1k per round at only level 11
You can easily do a boss with Only Benjamin. For least tiers and Cash is absolute insane. I tried a least cash at boss challenge using Benjamin vs Bloonarius. I not too good so i used 300k money. But Benjamin foi his own get like 350k and i ended with like 100k
50 for 10 rounds - better for early
100 for more 10 rounds - better for mid game
150 for more 10 rounds - better for late game
vs
25 for 10 rounds - worse for early game
75 for 10 rounds - not good nor bad for mid game
200 for 10 rounds - amazing for late game
Both would have made 3.000 in 30 rounds
It’s not really how much you end up making in the end to certain rounds but more how much you’re gaining per round for that portion of the game
Benjamin is much worse for early game, but amazing for mid game; instead of good for early, amazing for mid and falling off by late game
Then, what’s the best depends on game mode, map, difficulty, etc
Like, Benjamin now? Amazing for bosses. But for easy or medium? really not worth it.
This is about to be a calculus reply section
Just power level him and you can get it midgame easily
Aw, I really wanted to see Ben in chimps
+0 :D
it's a perfect balance!
Bravo Ninja Kiwi!
Ben is basically just a BMA with a worse pat fusty's level 3 in chimps lol
💀
11:40 "gives us a lot more work to room in" 🤣
He probably said "wiggle room"
Ain't no WAY I didn't catch that!
And no, he did NOT say "wiggle room", which wouldn't make it much better since he'd be saying "a lot more wiggle room *in* " ...
Plus, judging from the cut in the video, it's almost certainly a deliberate line.
@@DeJay7 He didn't say "a lot more wiggle room in", he said "a lot more wiggle room, and"
@@rallvegdCorrect, I blame the Canadian accent
We really need a retry last round button outside of CHIMPS.
yeah no clue why nk decided to add that button to chimps
dying in chimps literally has less risk than dying in other gamemodes now
@@beaneater6923chimps was supposed to be the hardest one but now as long as you follow a guide its impossible to lose even if you mess up
@@beaneater6923 I think adding the button to CHIMPS was a good call. It just means you don't have to back out of the game before you're about to die and if you mess that up saves you a lot time you'd otherwise waste getting back to that point. It doesn't decrease the difficulty while improving quality of life. I think other modes need this as well since most players want to win legitimately without the perks that continues come with but also don't want to waste their time replaying so much of the game to try again.
agree or disagree all im saying is a gamemode that specifically bans continues being one of the least punishing gamemodes to die in is damn ironic
if i were nk i would keep the prior system where retrying in chimps would still be possible via challenge editor, but not supported in the main game
@@beaneater6923 It bans continues because they grant you extra cash and reset ability cooldowns and all that stuff, not because they want you to start over if you mess up once. That's the point of the black border system, to show that you beat it without having to.
"what's the best banana farm crosspath?"
"Benjamin."
Love all 20 seconds of this vid I have watched so far
I love the first minute
the second minute is amazing
how was the rest of the vid?
i’m 43 seconds in and it SUCKS
It's a very hefty buff in least tiers when you cant be wasting tiers on farms so he makes enough money to compensate for that anyway. For my purposes though it's still a big nerf regardless of the gamemode
it’d be worth to buy a Benjamin level if it’s for skimming depending on the round
It definitely can happen. I was doing a boss event a while ago and had skimming available for $13. It made me around $100 more than if I just waited, which is a lot when trying to snowball.
I was thinking the same thing and came to check the comments. It was worth it this game. At 3:52 Ben's lvl 4 costs $36 and round 16 has 48 bloons, resulting in $48 made from skimming so that's a huge $12 profit! Obviously it's also very round dependent, for example round 17 has only 12 bloons which would rarely be profitable depending on the level up cost.
Actually, I am pretty sure that if you bought a level for Ben earlier that cost
Thank you Isab for using the reworked Benjamin to make insane cash!
I've been enjoying the new Ben buff. He feels pretty different now. And honestly, he's not bad for bosses either. He starts to profit like crazy after round 90. You can probably get an extra 10 degrees on a paragon just from what you make after that.
no u dont lol
12:46 Skimming can sometimes be worth buying, depending on the round and the price
True, also if you consider that buying the XP makes the future levels slightly faster too then there could be times when buying levels is still worth it in the long run
I like his power curve, more in line with what heroes offer in general to become crazy ag higher levels
The road spikes would spawn on here, but the end of one track is the beginning of another, so they'd all get used in the first couple rounds. Other maps like Haunted, Pat's Pond (as if it weren't bad enough), and Flooded Valley also suffer from this
Really good snowball at like past 60 rounds
I mean, for a least tiers run, this buff is actually nuts. I'm not sure if its strong enough to replace Geraldo but it's definitely something to consider.
Seems so, zarrot got 1st on the recent least tiers elite phayze with Benjamin, it's probably only actually nerf for snowballing
So cool they kept the neva miss darts when upgrading to spectre
This makes me wonder if spending money to level him up to 11 is a viable strategy
If you mean the micro transmission thing that jumps any hero to lvl 10? Definitely not as iirc for way less monkey money you can just drop a single crate and invest it
@@ShugoAWaythey definitely mean like buying hero exp like the same way you buy a tower upgrade. and yeah it would be worth it buying lvl 11 for less than like 880 cash or smth like that since youre making that amt back st the end of the round. i dont know if that ever happens though
@martinthemarine920 ah like round cash yeah it would be very situational and luck based that it lands on being cheap enough early enough to make a difference
Kinda like when you get a player 3 that builds farms on a short game or challenge, they probably won't get what they spent back before the finish and given the lack of situational awareness nobody will want to do free play with em
The only way I can imagine that working is if you buy a level early, causing Ben to level up a round earlier and thus make back the money spent. And I don't mean like the example ISAB was showing in the video. I mean if he bought an upgrade earlier costing about the same amount so Ben would have reached lvl 15 the round before instead, which would have profited because of Ben's dynamic cash generation. This seems to work in theory but it would require some planning to know when to buy a level so that it has an impact later in the game.
@20oxide36 yeah but that almost seems like you are getting into set seed and microing towers and at that point you might as well just use a single cash drop round 1 invest it and relax
I would say its a buff, since now you can pop him down and get a much bigger amount of money then Before, you only need to farm on top of Ben in bosses but most games arent bosses
yeah, but the issue is that the later cash gen isn't as usefull, you usually want that at the start, and it takes so long to get that
like at max he's worth like 2 420s and 3 023s in money making, which snowballing could help a lot more with.
BEN JAMMIN IS IN THE HOUSE
Ben’s snowballing is smaller now, sadly…
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@BraboDmsSlc less early game money means less investing in farms and slower snowballing of cash
@@vincentscolari7394 him itself give like 200 k more now, so basically him covers it.
Vid idea on quad map u have use 4 of every tower u put down. For example if u put a dart monkey down by the end of the run you must have 4 base dart monkeys. If this too ez do this but teir 1’s 2’s 3’s and tier 4’s and just dont count tier 5’s but u can still get it
12:38 Actually Skimming is worth buying if the round has more bloons than the cost of the levelup :)
now he is at same level as Geraldo for boss events. Using Ben is like 1k (or 1 tier) to receive 300 k for tier 5 boss.
now hes much worse than geraldo than he was before
@@anshtripathi1170 ?
Wish ben had a use on chimps. Like chimps only acts as a discount village or something of the sort
isab thank you for everything
Thank you isab for skimming the bloons
Can you do a flooded valley chimps run im stuck on that one and can’t find a good strategy to beat the 90s on that map
4:19 And also feel nice and perfectionist because all 4 sides are covered)
Benjamin+ early energizer looks much better now lol
Thank you isab for giving us ben's sushi👍👍
Benjamin seems op if you won't use farms
omg a new ISAB video!
It is better do buy Ben's siphon funding on rnd 11 if you drop him on rnd 3 on a beginner map.
14:38 overclockand dark champion not in range of discount when he couldve darkshifted unoptimised gameplay!!!!!
Thank you isab for showing ous how useful you can be to society if you become a hacker.
I know for a fact im dropping everything I'm doing for that Isab upload
Thank you Benjamin for ISAB-ing all over the Bloons.
Benjamin is gonna get the same usage rate as Saudi when she was released
Ohh boy does sauda still get used 😏
@@mr_pigman1013 yooooo 💀💀
good old times when you used ben for the bank buff
No selling even if the 0-0-0 sub was stealing alch buffs was a good flex.
welp, it makes him so much stronger on harder maps due to 30% faster levelling
Mean ISAB he didnt play with Sauda for us i really love Isab playing with her
my eyes popped out of my skull when i saw the benjamin patch notes. 100 to 80? whatever. 800 to 5000?? wtf!! thank you lord ninja kiwi i will abuse this
DOUBLOON GOT THE LEAVES OF DEATH
Why didn't you do this in challenge editor
havent played btd6 in a while, but 800 --> 5000 PER ROUND seems like a crazy buff
It is. But big reason why Benjamin is so good, is that it allows you to snowball into other farms super early.
So this rework basically cripples his early game snowballing strats, but gives him a good buff in the late game.
But other thing to consider is that if you see trying to farm, you can pretty easy close to 100k/round in the 90's when you would get that final level for Benjamin. So in that context the extra 5k isn't that crazy.
Benjamin makes less, but still makes. He makes 750 less by round 40, compared to the amount he still makes over 0-income. Later, he makes 4x more, which really starts to make a difference when skimming falls off
I dont know if you know, but its not impossible, its impoppable, and its öretty funny
Thank god
I think I've been playing too much Battles 2, I saw the patch notes and i was like "wait, doesn't he already generate 5k per round?"
No the spikes were just moved it used to be that they were closer to spawn/exit and would be wasted on round 1 and 2
as a non sweater code monkey is my go to
did ben steal an entire wallstreet
How's this change in a race? Hopefully a future upload.
Dose that work in co_op
20k every round sounds op
in co-op xp is shared so getting high level benjamin takes like hundreds of rounds
he made like under 30k till round 100 before and now he makes over 100k till round 100
I am going to beat sooo many Half Cash maps before this is nerfed
Ben plus top path sub makes insane money
Day 16 of asking for the masterful challenge
Isab can only use monkeys which are the masters of their craft eg
Apex plasma master, top and bottom path ninjas, bloon master alchemist etc. Paragons such as master builder are allowed as well
Extra challenge is that this should be done with the mastery mode mod.
If too difficult minimal farm8ng is allowed.
As a co op player I’m in shambles
I like the old Flying Fortress better
no ones talking about the amazing insta he got on r100?
Ben my GOAT
Day one of telling isab to play rainbow six seige
Get a life
probably, yeah
Can you do a monkey knowledge vid I have mad monkey knowledge but I don’t know how to spend it
So they nerfed him in any normal game, kinda interesting title then😂
Edit: You are wrong ISAB 12:38 it can definitely be worth upgrading Benjamin bc of the skimming ability
ISAB gets a TEMPLE insta monkey and barely reacts
I don't understand why ISAB didn't sell the towers that were eating the alch buffs (the 2 0-0-0 subs and the 0-0-0 boomerang). Wouldn't your defense get much stronger if you sold those, because the buffs would be more concentrated on stronger towers?
Maybe he is so used to play in CHIMPS, i know that i forget it when I play too
Just make trojan work on bads and bosses it won’t affect anything
How are you isab, I've always wondered I think u could be pretty young but also in your 20s?
Yes
*cries in boss player*
Wait did specter always shoot never miss darts as well as the bombs? 13:56
Yea It got buffed*
2 million pops BMA when
I love you ISAB
Any more modded videos incoming??
when this changes come global? are they now?
For everyone wondering; the chests, crafting table, and signs used would cost 2 stacks and 31 logs to make, or 159.
What? No one cares? Cool
Honestly, I would be perfectly happy if Ben gets larger buffs because he's the only farming tower that is useable in CHIMPS that does basically 0 damage, he is a 1 of a kind (or at max 4 if you're doing co-op) tower, and you specifically give up heroes like Geraldo who can also farm to use him. Is that not an excuse for a sizeable buff?
Chimps isn't what they should balance around
ben doesnt make any chimps and there is literally 0 scenarios where u give up geraldo for ben now due to nerf
@@anshtripathi1170 Yes that's why I'm saying ben needs a buff
Isab pls give us a vid where you go all out tryhard
Day 21 of asking isab to beat chimps with walking monkeys
Sorry to be annoying, but i don’t think mana shield in can be in impopible
Where are you from ISAB?
Why does it matter?
What is a good boss strat anyone?
Wow
I know this is random, but will you ever do a face reveal? Since I've never heard anybody else ask.
Im a little late to the video because of final exams :p
Is Benjamin Actually The BEST Farm Now? (Bloons TD 6)
Banana
Nah still a nerf, by the time he actually starts making money you should have plenty of money generation going making him useless
Isab where is gamble monkey
It's 6x not 4x
10 comments in 41 seconds is crazy
He will never be a good farm. Skimming is his only good upgrade