I feel like this set's design is kinda elegant inasmuch that so much of everything going on in it kinda compliments each other in spite of the clashing "Modernity Vs. tradition" thing it has going on. The Sagas happen to usually be evasive bodies on the other end that let you get in for Ninjutsu and then recast the saga, Ninjas happen to also be artifacts for the artifacts matter stuff or have ability counters when they enter, or reconfigure creatures can help with that, which then modify things along with the various auras like the black one that's also a removal spell. with how much incidental looting there is along with channel, it's so easy to just like... run stuff that have artifacts and enchantments matter, modified matters, graveyard synergies, all while not sticking to your strict draft archetype. It kinda was fun watching the LRR PPR and seeing Grahm Stark have what was effectively a goodstuff pile with all of 1 vehicle. it was legitimately more of a Ninja Control build then anything.
For the Black/White deck payoff you forgot the 3 mana 3/2 common rat Samurai. It gets useful keywords if you have enchantments and/or artifacts, and most secret thing of all it benefits from the white Samurai attack alone abilities! Super sneaky... like a rat.
I'm going to the kamigawa prerelease on saturday, and it will be my first time doing sealed. I know it's different from draft, but as someone who usually only watches your top 10s, I'm really glad I have this resource to get an in depth look at the set with helpful commentary!
i feel this time BG is about enchantment graveish/recursion stuff i mean Gloomshreiker is an enchantment after all and Twisted Embrace is excellent with Goethermal Kami
Green theme is enchantment. Black has ninja/ artifact+enchantment combined Green black theme is Value/Two for one. for example Raise dead + 2/1 menace, removal and +1/+1, Return a create + return an enchantment.
@@futurez14 I’m an owner of some very expensive cards that I got for very cheap 20 odd years ago til today. You go ahead and decide what you want. I call this investing
Looking at how Kaladesh played out, aggro. It seems like the artifacts like vehicles are to enable the aggro strategies and the enchantments side of things provide incremental advantage for control decks.
The existence of strong vehicles in a format usually favors aggro decks and combats control decks because vehicles make it much, much easier to play around creature board wipes.
I can't help but feel like Black/White is going to be an underpowered deck in the format. Green/White just needing enchantments and Blue/Red just needing artifacts seem much more streamlined and like they'll be more consistent. Not to mention I feel like Red has more good artifact stuff than Black, and Green has more good enchantment stuff than White, so it's kind of trying to work off the worse parts of each of the artifact and enchantment decks. Which is a shame because Black/White is my favorite color pair.
So...I feel like Samurai aren't really going to do that well, since it kind of feels like if you have all those creatures out to gain the ability from only swinging one of them, you'd be better served by just, you know, swinging out if you're in a position with a large number of those on the field at once?
yeah, exalted and pseudo-exalted stuff has never really been the most 'successful'. I am assuming the plan is swing alone to build resources/get ahead, then go for the all out attack when your in a position to do so. It'd be nice if there was an easy way to get trample on a samurai to make attacking with one single super-buffed samurai not just asking your opponent to chump block.
I feel like it's, conceptually, an anti ninja measure. You attack alone and gain value, while having plenty of blockers to keep a lookout for ninja so they have a hard time gaining value out of ninjitsu. ... But I am also concerned that's not really enough, against ninja or even more against the rest. We will see. RW is probably going to be just aggro where sometimes you weigh an attack alone upside, rather than attack alone being the default.
@@therealHLY I think the main issue is if they have something that's indestructible, or has a reoccurring source of death touch, since attacking alone means you'll still get those other effects, but without an in color source of trample or evasion, it's just asking to be blocked. Also, why is there no vehicle Voltron deck in Kamigawa? How could they possibly miss that opportunity?
Black Green also has access to Reito Sentinel, Spring Leaf Avenger, Unforgiving One, and Junji. You can splash blue also with a common dual land and get access to Tamiyo. Not sure why this was missed.
An interesting thing about Satoru, (and Im not saying its a good strategy but its a fun, interesting one) is that you can play whatever massive creature you want, even if out of colors and just get it into play with Satoru.. Were you going UB Ninjas and opened a Green massive dragon? You can play it.. you'll probably lose more games than you win by doing that but hey, it will feel glorious if you pull it off xD
You can kind of sort of count Satoru as fixing in those situations, but yeah, if your mana can't also decently support casting whatever bomb you have, it is pretty dangerous!
Wait so the land enchantments like “Crackling Emergence” count as a “modified” creature ? I guess the enchantment that actually animates the land itself counts as the modification. ?
Same. I generally like the playing style of Blue the best, and probably will in this set. But I'm just not excited about the cyberpunk theme - which is especially strong on the Blue and Red ends. I may lean toward Green-White for mostly thematic reasons.
With Enthusiastic mexhanauts ability does it just lower the casting cost or can It lower the ninjutsu cost too? I know it’s a ability of the card so probably not. Just wanted clarification.
It's so hard to remember. Red-blue: artifacts: which inclues equipments, vehicules, and artifact creatures Blue-White: vehicles: which need to be crewed by small creatures Red-white: attacking with one creatures, which benefits from equipments Black red: equpment? Red-green: modification, which inclues equipments, auras, and +1/+1 counters White-green: enchantments: which includes auras, sagas, and enchantment creatures Blue-green: sagas? Black-white: enchantments (sagas, auras) + artifacts (vehicles, equipment) I'm so confused.
@@NizzahonMagic Yeah the video was helpful. I wrote that comment before. I still feel like there is so much overlap between the archetypes though. Challenging to navigate.
Please please please please stop saying Nin JIT su. It’s Nin JOOT Su. It’s not just you, it’s a lot of people. It feels like nails on a chalkboard every time.
Honestly Anvil plus Dockside Chef is kinda like playing an elvish visionary every single turn and that's kinda awesome
I feel like this set's design is kinda elegant inasmuch that so much of everything going on in it kinda compliments each other in spite of the clashing "Modernity Vs. tradition" thing it has going on. The Sagas happen to usually be evasive bodies on the other end that let you get in for Ninjutsu and then recast the saga, Ninjas happen to also be artifacts for the artifacts matter stuff or have ability counters when they enter, or reconfigure creatures can help with that, which then modify things along with the various auras like the black one that's also a removal spell. with how much incidental looting there is along with channel, it's so easy to just like... run stuff that have artifacts and enchantments matter, modified matters, graveyard synergies, all while not sticking to your strict draft archetype. It kinda was fun watching the LRR PPR and seeing Grahm Stark have what was effectively a goodstuff pile with all of 1 vehicle. it was legitimately more of a Ninja Control build then anything.
you convinced me to attend prerelease this weekend
Thank you so much for this series Nizzahon, they are so helpful.
Glad you like them!
Super helpful! Can’t wait for the set.
For the Black/White deck payoff you forgot the 3 mana 3/2 common rat Samurai. It gets useful keywords if you have enchantments and/or artifacts, and most secret thing of all it benefits from the white Samurai attack alone abilities! Super sneaky... like a rat.
I'm going to the kamigawa prerelease on saturday, and it will be my first time doing sealed. I know it's different from draft, but as someone who usually only watches your top 10s, I'm really glad I have this resource to get an in depth look at the set with helpful commentary!
I, too, ended up as defining BG and UG as "graveish stuff" and "rampish stuff"
i feel this time BG is about enchantment graveish/recursion stuff i mean Gloomshreiker is an enchantment after all and Twisted Embrace is excellent with Goethermal Kami
Green theme is enchantment. Black has ninja/ artifact+enchantment combined Green black theme is Value/Two for one. for example Raise dead + 2/1 menace, removal and +1/+1, Return a create + return an enchantment.
Very helpful primer for prerelease, thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
I feel like this is the first set in a long time that’s worth investing in in paper. Super hyped for this set!
You've mixed up investments and expenses
@@futurez14 I’m an owner of some very expensive cards that I got for very cheap 20 odd years ago til today. You go ahead and decide what you want. I call this investing
@@Psychochild9 You call it what you want. Just don't be a beanie baby.
@@JoelChenFa are you trying to compare MTG cards, a solid investment choice for almost 3 decades to beanie babies?
Black green theme isn't graveyard its value/two for one's.
Thanks for coming to my ted talk.
Heck yeah great video!
Channel cards are kinda part of the BG strategy, like the greater tanuki
Red-Black Artifact Sacrifice will synergize well in standard with Red-Black Treasures Matter from the Forgotten Realms set
Looking forward to how the meta shapes up around this set. I wonder who will make more use of Vehicles - aggro, or control decks?
Looking at how Kaladesh played out, aggro. It seems like the artifacts like vehicles are to enable the aggro strategies and the enchantments side of things provide incremental advantage for control decks.
The existence of strong vehicles in a format usually favors aggro decks and combats control decks because vehicles make it much, much easier to play around creature board wipes.
I can't help but feel like Black/White is going to be an underpowered deck in the format. Green/White just needing enchantments and Blue/Red just needing artifacts seem much more streamlined and like they'll be more consistent. Not to mention I feel like Red has more good artifact stuff than Black, and Green has more good enchantment stuff than White, so it's kind of trying to work off the worse parts of each of the artifact and enchantment decks.
Which is a shame because Black/White is my favorite color pair.
Enchartifacts?! Nizza, my dear friend, it’s ‘Artichantments’. 😏
I like "Artiments".
Enchantifacts 😤
So...I feel like Samurai aren't really going to do that well, since it kind of feels like if you have all those creatures out to gain the ability from only swinging one of them, you'd be better served by just, you know, swinging out if you're in a position with a large number of those on the field at once?
Yeah, I'm a little worried that the whole "attack alone" angle might not work out, but I hope I'm wrong, because its a pretty cool way to do RW aggro.
yeah, exalted and pseudo-exalted stuff has never really been the most 'successful'. I am assuming the plan is swing alone to build resources/get ahead, then go for the all out attack when your in a position to do so. It'd be nice if there was an easy way to get trample on a samurai to make attacking with one single super-buffed samurai not just asking your opponent to chump block.
I feel like it's, conceptually, an anti ninja measure.
You attack alone and gain value, while having plenty of blockers to keep a lookout for ninja so they have a hard time gaining value out of ninjitsu.
... But I am also concerned that's not really enough, against ninja or even more against the rest.
We will see. RW is probably going to be just aggro where sometimes you weigh an attack alone upside, rather than attack alone being the default.
@@therealHLY I think the main issue is if they have something that's indestructible, or has a reoccurring source of death touch, since attacking alone means you'll still get those other effects, but without an in color source of trample or evasion, it's just asking to be blocked.
Also, why is there no vehicle Voltron deck in Kamigawa? How could they possibly miss that opportunity?
Not jazzed about these archetypes for limited. I do have some ideas for constructed that may be some fun.
Nice! I got Raiyuu and Isshin in my sealed!
The hotsprings work really really well with Riot. Why choose between haste and a counter when you can have both?
Black Green also has access to Reito Sentinel, Spring Leaf Avenger, Unforgiving One, and Junji. You can splash blue also with a common dual land and get access to Tamiyo. Not sure why this was missed.
Pat yourself on the back. I've never seen someone be that needlessly condescending in as few words before
@@InRealTime769 Tamiyo is graveyard in this set. He splashed black for the Mardu Samurai.
An interesting thing about Satoru, (and Im not saying its a good strategy but its a fun, interesting one) is that you can play whatever massive creature you want, even if out of colors and just get it into play with Satoru.. Were you going UB Ninjas and opened a Green massive dragon? You can play it.. you'll probably lose more games than you win by doing that but hey, it will feel glorious if you pull it off xD
You can kind of sort of count Satoru as fixing in those situations, but yeah, if your mana can't also decently support casting whatever bomb you have, it is pretty dangerous!
I’m looking forward to many sealed games.
Wait so the land enchantments like “Crackling Emergence” count as a “modified” creature ? I guess the enchantment that actually animates the land itself counts as the modification. ?
Correct
I wanna force Mechtitan Core in draft.
I don't really like Suit Up as well but I guess that if you can consistently make 1/1 pilots it's not that bad
For the algorithm!!
cool
Me, a 40 year old man watching mtg videos.
CZcams: hey bro, you want some Barbie dolls dude?
Im not sure how I feel about the cyberpunk setting of this set.
You may be a replicant. How is your baseline rn?
Same. I generally like the playing style of Blue the best, and probably will in this set. But I'm just not excited about the cyberpunk theme - which is especially strong on the Blue and Red ends. I may lean toward Green-White for mostly thematic reasons.
With Enthusiastic mexhanauts ability does it just lower the casting cost or can It lower the ninjutsu cost too? I know it’s a ability of the card so probably not. Just wanted clarification.
ninjutsu is an activated ability, not a casting cost, so Mechanaut wont reduce the ninjutsu cost of artifact-ninjas
Im glad they kicked they "once per turn" "activate only at sorcery speed" guy off the team for this set 😂
I need to enchart after that coffee smh
Yo land fall an modified sweet
It's so hard to remember.
Red-blue: artifacts: which inclues equipments, vehicules, and artifact creatures
Blue-White: vehicles: which need to be crewed by small creatures
Red-white: attacking with one creatures, which benefits from equipments
Black red: equpment?
Red-green: modification, which inclues equipments, auras, and +1/+1 counters
White-green: enchantments: which includes auras, sagas, and enchantment creatures
Blue-green: sagas?
Black-white: enchantments (sagas, auras) + artifacts (vehicles, equipment)
I'm so confused.
I am not sure what you are confused about. Red-Black is definitely not Equipment. Watch the video lawl
@@NizzahonMagic Yeah the video was helpful. I wrote that comment before.
I still feel like there is so much overlap between the archetypes though. Challenging to navigate.
He failed. He shouldve put norika and heiko next to each other so we could see the art together as one piece
Please please please please stop saying Nin JIT su. It’s Nin JOOT Su. It’s not just you, it’s a lot of people. It feels like nails on a chalkboard every time.
You'll be okay
I will be OK. I didn’t mean to sound like a jerk, I just wanted to bring that to your attention. I used to say it wrong.