What happens if you end dwm.exe in different versions of Windows?
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- čas přidán 3. 07. 2024
- DWM stands for Desktop Window Manager.
In Windows XP and earlier, applications render themselves directly to the screen in the order that are stacked, they also do this in Windows Vista and 7 if the basic or classic themes are selected. However in Windows Vista and 7 if the Aero theme is selected and in Windows 8 and above the applications render to an off-screen buffer which DWM then processes and renders to the screen. This allows for transparency, live thumbnails and animations.
In Windows Vista and 7 DWM runs Aero. In Windows 8 and above, DWM runs the Metro UI and the general window skin and is mandatory. So what happens if you end dwm.exe in different versions of Windows?
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00:00 - Title
00:05 - Windows XP and earlier
00:15 - Windows Vista and 7
01:33 - Windows 8 and 8.1
06:56 - Windows 10
Music:
Kevin MacLeod - Getting it Done
Kevin MacLeod - Wagon Wheel - Electronic
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Watching your videos, I'm amazed at how much legacy code in Windows is not replaced, but simply hidden
The more you dig the worse it gets, you can easily find dialogs from Windows 3.1 in the newest versions of Windows
@@Allstarsoftware they probably kept those for compatibility purposes, but also removed unnecessary files in an attempt to not make Windows bloated, but I'm surprised that they removed the Windows 2000 logon screen even though they would instead use it as a fallback when the logonui.exe is missing or corrupt in Windows versions from Vista to 11, the last Windows NT Workstation version to have it is Windows XP and the last Windows NT Server version to have it is Windows Server 2003 you know
it's always like that on giant projects
This channel and videos really just proves that up till now, Windows 11 still relies on decades-old infrastructure
Of course... It's not like they rewrite the OS from the ground up with every release
@@flp322 If that did happen compatibility would probably be not so good
@@tubbunny Well it just depends on how they do it and how long they bake it. Windows actually has been rebuilt from the groundup once before (Moving from DOS-based to NT-based) but even then it took them just over 10 years to be confident enough with compatibility and functionality to use it for home, commercial and server-use (aka Windows XP)
Even in Windows 11 you can still find leftovers from Windows 3.1 that was released in 1992 *(please excuse the Reddit image link)*: i.redd.it/5xo6c8xmst571.png
at least they have something better than wayland
4:50 So you’re telling me I can make Windows Art once again…?
_Ferb, I know what we’re gonna do today!_
Note: On real computers, disabling DWM in windows 10 will result in the black screen immediately without even the mouse, completely bricking the installation. Trying to boot will result the boot logo partially working and then it will not even display the sign-in page, being stuck on a black screen forever. The only way to fix this is to rename the file back to dwm.exe
Then why did that happen on the vm?
@@Zorro_nobecause the VM doesn't have complete 3D acceleration and DWM runs part of the code for the GPU driver .
@@monad_tcp oh, thanks for explaining
@@monad_tcptk50p's dwm disabler works
i think DWM is what saves all display settings and important configurations of windows so stopping it would put everything to default.
it would just go to a broken classic ui and go blank, and then you will just log back in as if you were starting the computer/signing back in (This Only Works In Windows 11)
*7:36** it ain't broken. It's just windows trying to display classic shell with thick borders.*
*The same thing happens when you break windows 7*
Task Manager had no text in the title bar and no menu bar or tab bar.
7:40 also the Run prompt had a cut text box and the text on the 'Browse' button is in the corner.
The comment was a joke
@@World_of_OSesBut there's no mention of Windows 7 Ultimate.
5:15 its charmbar zone. it looks like dwm manages charmbar as well.
I think it might be the search pane. If you enable the classic Alt+Tab switcher in Windows 8.x by pressing L-Alt + R-Alt + Tab, it shows 'Search Pane' as an item. When I ended DWM in Windows 8 Milestone 3, the search pane came up: czcams.com/video/gUbpX2s-dYk/video.html
@EVERYONE, its hot corners
I think it's part of the Metro UI.
I love the happy music as you tear the OS apart
excellent, this is exactly what i needed to see
The background music made it so fun to watch 😁😁
3:10 Idea used for win 11 curved lines for win 11 apps
I once ended DWM (at least I think it was DWM) on Windows 10, it showed the classic theme for a few seconds, then it signed me out.
I had to end DWM several times to make it look like i dont have any graphic drivers
@shuri Master43 nope
winlogon.exe not dwm
@@winexperiments I’m sure it was saying Desktop Window Manager
@@Maciek2846 Ending DWM usually uses the Basic theme, but in some cases, it can fallback to classic (depends on the way DWM is killed)
I would like to know what happens if you boot into safe mode with broken DWM in Windows 8 and later versions. Will it be just as broken?
Also in recovery in Windows 8.x and later, It uses the Windows 7 Basic theme
4:30 That's satisfying btw 😂
Because my computer is really old and slow (2005, 2GB RAM) I often catch glimpses of the internal Vista/7 Basic theme.
4:39 has a great 3D painting
If u rename DWM on win10 and you cant go back to windows, try to go to ur win 10 installation, after that press shift + f10 and it wiill open an cmd and type notepad and go to save and change from filetype TXT to all files so you can see all of ur files, after that rename DWM back
Thanks a Lot For Warning us about Don't Broke Your DWM on Windows 10
I am a computer scientist with basic knowledge, and I would say that it depends on the version of windows, even so do not do it, since your computer may not start again, I did it and if I load the basic theme, when I start the computer , instead of the typical login screen, a cmd window appears, but that's because I did something specific to make the window appear
EDIT: Forgot to warn that the start menu will be broken, to fix it, install classicshell
Fun fact: you can bypass all the NTFS permissions by using Linux and this is pretty useful when the Windows breaks (or steal someone’s data if you wish)
Why would you steal somewone data idiot
I'd like to interject for just a moment, what you're referring to as linux is in fact, linux, and not GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux.
Or he could even try renaming the file from his host OS... which is Windows 8
@@WohaoG no they meant Linux and just Linux!!! :D
That music slaps dood
Also when you're trying to install windows and open a window it will have the windows 7 basic skin
Its windows pe. Thats why.
@@SOTP. yea ik
If dwm.exe is responsible for Windows Aero in Windows 7 and Vista, what happens if you run Windows 7's dwm.exe in Windows 10?
idea: copy dwm from windows 7 and see what's happens if you replace it In Windows 8.1 and Windows 10 😞
music fire fr
Kevin MacLeod - Getting it Done
Kevin MacLeod - Wagon Wheel - Electronic
You can only do this on Windows 7 and Vista! (if you troubleshoot aero before you shut off your pc)
On Windows Vista or Windows 7, ending or even deleting dwm.exe is safe, but this will disable Aero. On Windows 8.x, dwm.exe can be safely deleted if automatic logon was enabled, which I done several times, but first, I deleted Windows.UI.Search.dll.
4:53 add args "--disable-dwm-composition" you can fix UI
that depends on the version, but I use windows 10, I had disabled (with specific steps) dwm and I have the basic theme and nothing has happened to it, only that when I log in it loads a window with cmd that asks for the password of the account my computer
Wow watching this was a lifesaver, i was about to end it 😅😅
6:14 because you also need to get rid of Windows.UI.Logon.dll and maybe other Metro UI related DLLs in system32, you'll get a CMD logon screen for such move
5:17 To fix that delete windows.ui.search.dll
I use windows 7 and I want to ask can I end dwm in task manager to make my CPU have less pressure on it?
Also if I do it does it do anything else I mean will I be able to revert it back?
I still can not comprehend how can there be so much weird stuff happening
Windows 7 basic skin in 8 or 10 is able to be seen in Program compatibility mode.
On vista, when you end dwm.exe, it restarts, if you try again, it disabled aero. When you try to go to control panel - appereance and personalization - personalization - customize colors - appereance settings, then windows aero is gone. when you try to restart the machine, you go the same, then windows aero is back
5:16 that black thing at side is the menu opened with charms/network icon, and the thing at corner is hot-corners thing. (when you hover left top of desktop)
I think that corner is volume display too
umm hot corners is only in ios (or is it)
@@Luccio69420 no. top left is to switch apps and directly top to close or dock app. right bottom for charm. it also works in desktop. (except if you have classic/open shell)
I sometimes end dwm.exe because it can take up to 1gb of ram and I try to stop that by ending the task, don't worry it starts again and it's like nothing ever happened.
Do you know how to fix the black screen problem in windows 10? (I'm talking about the one in the video)
7:35 Windows 10 go back to Windows 2000
No, it’s actually the windows 7 fallback classic theme
3:22 i know this because when i run FNAF2 on my Win10 pc it shows sort of for a split second the basic theme
7:35 Wait what? How did Classic come up after killing DWM in Windows 10? I have tried killing DWM in the past and the results were the same as in Windows 8.x. Classic theme only appears if you kill winlogon.exe. Does killing DWM.exe crash Winlogon now?
Yeah.
In Windows 10, if you end dwm.exe faster 10 times with cmd as administrator, it ends the process. Then the top of the screen looks like someone broke it with hammer. The log off and sleep options disappears. After a restart, the process restarts too and everything is back to normal. I did it on my main laptop.
For me it just signed me out and when I logged back in dwm was running I did it with CMd
@@superJK92 It depends on your Windows 10 version. My main laptop is always updated. I had another, non updated Windows 10 version and the same thing happened as you.
First of all. WHY THE HELL DID YOU DO IT IN YOUR HOST?????
Wow, the real difference between Winsows Server Core (without UI) and Windows Server with desktop experience is those process 😳
Windows, Not Winsows
they really went from functioning as it needs to without DWM to breaking the second even 1 letter is added to its name
I wonder if it was DWM.exe that caused the Aero theme button to appear momentarily when I turned off full screen while watching CZcams on Windows 10.
So to bring dwm back you need run the program in task manager before it turns black in windows 10.
I personally think Windows Vista/7 basic theme looks better than any theme since 8, as it still has skeuomorphic looks
so that dewem means dekstiop widowz amanger?
3:13 fr. When i press F11 really fast on any app, for a split second i see the Windows 7 basic skin
7:34 If you entirely remove dwm, winlogon literally crashes prob from trying to start dwm in a loop, and it never manages to restart untill u rename dwm back.
5:27 I assume this is because windows 7 ui was a bit bigger so it tries to load it but ends up with that
Edit: it’s because in windows 7 there was no ribbon so it glitches out
Ribbons were introduced in Windows 7
@@agaveboy the explorer ribbon was introduced in Windows 8
0:50 "DWM applies to the current user this is why there is no Aero on the logon screen"
But what about the SYSTEM user?
so now you can kill the pc by just renaming a file
FASCINATING
What if you run vista/7 dwm on different systems
There's actually a way to get Aero Basic from 8 to up without turning DWM off
Do video called what happens if you delete control panel.exe in different windows?
What happens if I accidentally end task for it on windows 10
It just restarts again as shown at 6:57. To stop it from restarting you will have to rename or delete the exe file but there is no practical reason for doing this and it will break your computer. This video was done using a virtual machine.
Windows 10 have classic theme?
0w0
in Windows 8 if you close dwm it will show a black screen and is unusable
Thanks, very useful video for me. This crap dwm makes my keyboard useless when using over an usb hub (tried different PCs, Hubs and Keyboards). Just keeps hanging plus getting lags. Does not happen on Linux or Windows XP
What about using Windows 7 with the Basic or Classic themes selected? They don't require DWM.
@@World_of_OSes hmm i tried on windows 7 now (another PC), does work without any problem even with the dwm. Guess it is a protocol issue or something like that. Still couldn't figured out. At least i'm not the only one with this problem, found a lot of people online with the same issue.
It is possible to kill dwm in windows 10. To do so, rename dwm to notdwm then copy rundll32.exe to dwm.exe (there must be a program dwm) then rename sihost to notsihost, rename windows.ui.logon.dll (this will enable command prompt logon) to notwindows.ui.logon.dll. Then reboot
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@@World_of_OSes Thanks:)
Can you decompile DWM? Source code and rewrite?
I dont have linux usb and I am unable to enter automatic repair menu
Bye bye stuck in a boot loop
@@liquidjam7521 maybe hirtyaa can fix it :D
Then buy one
I have a usb and has ubuntu files so i can delete viruses rename windows files if its renamed and add files
@@liquidjam7521 Within Linux, you can use the file explorer/terminal to rename dwm1.exe back to dwm.exe, so the PC is fixed
@@z98i87 you can also use your windows install disc or the recovery menu (if working) to fix it
7:57 wait that means if you accidentally remove dwm in windows 10 you have to run it inmediately or you cant use your pc??
I ended dwm.exe task now I can't even get my laptop's display to show on "advanced display settings" it just says Display 1:Wired Display 😥
How to troubleshoot Aero on Windows Vista
3:25 i know only bcause if you set up windows there pops up the win 7 skin
Stefan
You know my name not my story.
lmao
Is there any way to recover from ending DWM.exe on windows10?
If you renamed dwm.exe then you could boot in with a live Linux USB or Windows install disc and rename it back.
If you deleted dwm.exe then if you have another PC running the same version of Windows 10 you could copy dwm.exe from that computer. If you have a VM running the same version of Windows 10 then you could copy dwm.exe from there. If you have an ISO then you could mount it to a virtual drive and go to the 'sources' folder and open install.win with 7-Zip and copy dwm.exe from there.
i suspend the dwm.exe and than just black screen and cursor
Have you tried turning the computer off and back on again?
Hey I really need help, I was trying to force delete a folder and when I was in the Resource Monitor I ended the process of an explorer thing and my desktop went completely black except for my vpn program and the resource monitor itself, now idk what to do
Press Ctrl + Alt + Delete, then click 'Task Manager', then 'File', then 'Run new task', then type 'explorer', then click 'OK'.
@@World_of_OSes you’re the goat for replying but my roommate came in and fixed it, I shut down my file explorer I think and that’s why my desktop went black, all we had to do was restart my computer. Thanks u though regardless
@@World_of_OSes earned urself a sub jus for being so real
I tried this in Windows 11 (Too lazy for a VM so i tried it in windows sandbox), i renamed dwm and ended it. It caused the sandbox to disconnect and the host (the whole computer) to lock up
I fixed this, slight pain but I made a bootable windows USB and instead of pressing "install" I pressed "troubleshoot" in bottom left then opened a CMD then changed to C: and then CD windows > CD system32 > rename dwm1337.exe dwm.exe and boom! Fixed ❤️
Wow, you tried it in a sandbox and it locked up the host? That's pretty bad
@@flp322 no, we tried it without a VM, no sandbox and locked our actual pc's 🤣 I fixed mine after a couple hours luckily
@@flp322 yep
i ended dwm.exe in windows 7 and it restarted dwm.exe
fun fact:about windows 10 classic skin happens when killing winlogon to
“dont do this to your main pc” thanks for the reminder at the end of the video 😑
I already did it and there’s whole time a black screen.. I just reboot it but it dont want to change..
How did you get dwm back? (Windows 8 and later)
To get dwm back you need to enter the automatic repair which can be done by rebooting your computer 3 times, then, select command prompt then open notepad,select open, which will give you a file explorer, then go to system32 and find the dwm file, finally, you can rename dwm back to its original name.
all recent versions of windows are forked from the last one (mostly 7 and 8.1) , one of the biggest proof is that when a ,for example, website takes info about the OS , even though it is W11, it will display WINDOWS NT 10.0.
Prove me wrong.
How does CZcams know my pc just crashed from DWM?
I know, I'm the only idiot who did it, and I wanted to know how to fix it, I'm really worried, if anyone knows how to fix it, please let me know.
Is there a way to fix it if you do the last one?
You could rename it back by booting in with a live Linux USB or Windows installation media.
Why Microsoft changed the DWM so it runs under its own user and restarts as soon as you end it? I'll explain.
*Why does it run under its own user?* Since Windows 8.x we have this fancy Metro UI, right, well, turns out the sign-in screen runs as a part of Metro UI. And Metro UI without DWM is nothing. That's why it runs under its own user - so DWM will be available at any time.
*Why does it restart upon termination?* As I said earlier, Metro UI without DWM is nothing, so the DWM needs to run all the time.
Even in Windows 10 and 11 which use UWP, the same rules about DWM apply.
7:54 Fun fact: the screen goes black because windows10 dosent know what to do and just logs off
I got a different name in user name, not as my user name. What's that mean?
Anyone here know how to fix it on windows 10 I accidentally did what he did in the video and now I just have a black screen help plz
Linux users only know one DWM - Dynamic Window Manager. The ultimate hackable window manager 😂
Wow, in Windows 10 it is so risky.
I bet in Windows 11 the entire OS will refuse to boot when you end DWM.
@@kantraa I bet that the OS will remove itself if you end DWM!
@@MoscowGeneral chills, it's the same result in windows 10 since the betas are based off win10
@@kantraa Look at the video he uploaded.
@@kantraa czcams.com/video/gUbpX2s-dYk/video.html
And it's still on Windows 11 with WinRAR, idk why Microsoft are lazy to replace it for a few years.
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Can I use ur idea to make my tech video? I will make about quitting dock in Mac OS. I will give u a credit.
Yes
@@World_of_OSes czcams.com/video/JtvfsEbvtnY/video.htmlsi=T5yS0BLVBv3cJ-bd
1:39 another way: disable dwm using revios tool
Next: what if you end DWM in Windows 11
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We did that to get extra frames on cs
What OS?
@@World_of_OSes it was definitely 7. One more thing that i remember that you need to end explorer.exe in order to play old Cossacks Back to War because if you don't, aero will make whole game purple and broken.
yall do not try this I ended it and every single time my computer boots it shows black screen.
But how do we fix it we cant even use task manager
You could boot in with a live Linux USB or Windows recovery environment and rename it back.
@@World_of_OSes I dont have live linux usb but I cannot enter automatic repair
Is there any DWM equivalent in Linux?
wiki.archlinux.org/title/dwm
@@World_of_OSes(it doesn't do the exact same set of things though, it does the entire desktop)
What is DWM
since you are too smart at pcs can u tell me how i got a BSOD (Blue screen of death) on my real OS which i actually use the blue screen of death is black on windows 11 right? Then how did i got it blue?
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4:29 this looks like a virus entered windows 8.1
Why r u still using windows 7? And is it slow when you run the newer version of your current windows in the virtual machine app? And I just running Windows 11 on a crappy old intel Mac Mini and it just slow as hell.
DONT TRY DOING IT ON WINDOWS 11
The same thing as in Windows 10 will happen but much faster... stupid me, i tried it on my main PC 🤦♂️🤦♂️🥲
But i fixed it with the help of the Linux Mint ISO file😀
answer: your mom comes and she says "WHY U JUST DESTROY MY THEME?????"